Kremlin dismisses revelations in Panama Papers as 'Putinphobia'

[GAMES]

LooL Gurey, u still believe this is all an American conspiracy against Putin and destabilizing Russia?

Dude, Russia has always had corruption and people in power hiding their ill gotten gains in offshore account. No western conspiracy needed for this.

Putin has been in power since since 1999 and is thinking about running for another 6yr term. If that isn't corruption than i don't know what is.

[Grant]

Welcome back Grant,
i see you here defending the empire as a knee jerk response.

I also see that you did not read the wiki you posted.
The british intelligence i.e western intelligence the 5 eyes( US, UK,Australia,Newzealand and Canada) +1 ( Isreal) are what i mean by western intelligence agencies and they are for all intents and purpses a single organization.
The french DGSE, and intelligence agencies of western europe are not important mere vassal that are sometimes thrown a bone,
and petted like a dog.

I believe Litvenkos father who believes his son worked for british intelligence.
probably was also an accident as well, while smuggling the polonium out of russia.
Polonium is a good tool for assassinating and planting evidence to point at certain countries.
All radioactive material have a signature and you can trace them to a specific reactor and a specific time.

I bet the polonium used on Yasser Arafat may allah have mercy on that poor dumb bastard
was from the former soviet union, plausible deniability.
nothing to lead back to the isrealis..

Gurey,

It so happens I did read the Wiki article. What parts of it do you disagree with?

Conspiracy theories and wild speculation don't get it. Here is the full British inquiry:

https://www.litvinenkoinquiry.org/

Read it or not as you will.

[gurey25]

Read it.
Nothing definitive there.

Just the probable perpetrators attempting to "investigating" themselves.

Lol

I believe it might be too late for you to have a road to Damascus moment like me.
Took me more than 30years.
Before that I was a believer in democracy and Western civilisation.

Now I am like a former cult member that discovers the truth and is pissed. Really pissed off.

[Grant]

I thought you seemed changed. That level of cynicism can't be healthy. How is the transition going down under?

[gurey25]

What you call cynicism is realism.
Which is healthier than you expect.
There is really nothing in the news that surprises me any ore. So much that I no longer watch the news.
It's so mind numbingly boring when you can see practically every single major political or economic events weeks or months before they happen.

It allows me to focus on other things in life.

Transition is great. Spending more time at home and with my son and parents and siblings.
A more relaxed pace of life.
I work from home now and study pastime.
While my wife works full time, it's her turn now as she was a stay at home mum.
The role reversal is quite fun.
I am enjoying my semi retirement.

What about you, how is the Philippines.

[Machiavelli2]

It's quiet legal for civilians and corporations to hide their money from the tax office in tax havens and anyone who doesn't want to minimise their tax needs a major counselling. WikiLeaks are already pointing fingers for the leakage and blaming it on the staff at George Soros Fund. There were only few hundred Americans mentioned and none of them were in the political class. Anyway, some states like Nevada, Wyoming and Delaware provide similar secrecy rules in starting a company like those in Panama and the West Indies. The Panama papers revealed Nevada to be No. 8 on the top 10 most popular tax havens. These papers only exposed few hypocrite politicians in Europe and corrupt leaders elsewhere. Nothing to implicate Putin. He hid his wealth very well like most western leaders.

[LobsterUnit]

Not one Somali on the list.i guess we are too poor.war dadkani was imtixaan.

[Grant]

The heat eventually drives me into the air conditioning. Three months was nice but I am glad to be home now. Going back in December, when it will again be cooler.

It was many years ago, but the last time the news got boring and I thought I could see the future, it turned out to be a bad case of depression. Hope that's not the situation with you.

Check the polonium 210 contamination on Kovtun and Lugovoy and the Transaero aircraft. Given everything else, I consider it definitive proof.

https://www.litvinenkoinquiry.org/evidence

[gurey25]

phillipines is a paradise man, you need to adapt to the tropical heat,
wear some sunscreen and go bare chested.
fly s and mosquitoes can be annoying though..

dont worry about me, im not prone to depression,
politics really is repetitive and predictable, ive found it that way since i was 13, its been getting more predictable as i got older.
since ive been back in OZ, ive developed an unhealthy interest in gardening and home improvement, the beach
and footy( AFL and Rugby).
I fear i may be turning into the typical suburban aussie male...
well apart from the skin color and lack of alcohol..


as fr litvenenko case, the "evidence" still looks circumstantial.
but we are all ignoring the point,
this whole circus is a non starter, no one will ever get indicted for the crime.
its all information warfare.

even if it is proven 100% that putin ordered the hit, and you have video and multiple eyewitnesses,
it will be the same case, nothing can and will be done about it, apart from what is already happening,

[TheGrumpyGeeljire]

phillipines is a paradise man, you need to adapt to the tropical heat,
wear some sunscreen and go bare chested.
fly s and mosquitoes can be annoying though..

dont worry about me, im not prone to depression,
politics really is repetitive and predictable, ive found it that way since i was 13, its been getting more predictable as i got older.
since ive been back in OZ, ive developed an unhealthy interest in gardening and home improvement, the beach
and footy( AFL and Rugby).
I fear i may be turning into the typical suburban aussie male...
well apart from the skin color and lack of alcohol..


as fr litvenenko case, the "evidence" still looks circumstantial.
but we are all ignoring the point,
this whole circus is a non starter, no one will ever get indicted for the crime.
its all information warfare.

even if it is proven 100% that putin ordered the hit, and you have video and multiple eyewitnesses,
it will be the same case, nothing can and will be done about it, apart from what is already happening,

I want to believe your theories on events happening around the word, to be honest, they sound very plausibe. The thing is, you never tell us where you get your sources from which makes you sound like a conspiracy nut, no offense.

[gurey25]

Grumpy
I have realised that you cannot free people from mental slavery by preaching to them.
They are already preached to 24/7 by the media.
Conditioning starts at primary school.

No my job is to present an alternative view and encourage you to seek out knowledge.
Don't sit at home and consume.

My advise is to question everything and everyone.
Everyone lies and is lieing to you most of the time.
You need to learn how to process the lies.

That's why I will not be giving sources,
Except when they are 100% undeniable facts.

I am not offended by the accusation of conspiracy nut.
I used to make fun of them and I used to enjoy busting myths and conspiracies.
90% of the theories are stupid and wrong.
But I respect their suspicion of authority.

[FAH1223]