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TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:

I know this is a bit off-topic, but do you mind elaborating the events and reasons behind the USC split (Caydiid and Cali Mahdi) and the events that led to the ferocious HG-Abgaal interclan-fighting in the early to mid nineties? Thanks in advance!![/quote] USC was different than SNM by having two wings: the political wing led by the abgaals aka manafesto group and the military wing led by general caydiid

It's long story but that's the biggest reason why...

I think there was no enough time to adjust the things bc both SSDF and SNM where there since 1979 and 1984 but the USC as organization was established by 1989.. caydiid has joined it by december 1989 and he led some HG and hawadle rebels that were already there even before the organization was established..both groups have met in xamar each claiming to be the leadership...military wing have captured most of the military bases like halane, afisyoone and carbiska...the other wing have captured villa somalia an appointed ali mahdi as president.

Mahadsanid saaxib!

Analyst Sahal,

The chosen candidate for President was Ismail Jimcaale. He was the elder of the party. Manifesto was actually against the USC philosophy of armed insurrection against MSB. Caydiid did not want the Presidency or to even capture Xamar quickly but instead surround it and make the MSB regime capitulate. However after MSB began shelling the Hawiye neighbhorhoods and killing notable Hawiye/Dir personalities, all bets were off. MSB provoked sectarian violence which forced a popular uprising by the Hawiye natives who were not necessarily USC. MSB was strategy was effective because he could term the conflict as Hawiye vs. Darood not one between MSB & Co (including his Hawiye allies) vs. the Rebels.

As for Manifesto, they were not a Hawiye grouping and contained personalities who worked with the MSB regime including Maxamed Abshir Hamane who was recorded on VHF radio giving USC position locations to the Darood and stating he was working hard to provoke violence between the Hiiraab.

Caydiid was not a qabiili at heart. If he had his way, he would have executed the Hawiye Faqash first starting with Abdiqasiim Salad, Abdullahi Addow, etc. If he was qabili, he wouldn't have camped in Baydhaba to plea for aid for the Rahanwein or personally evacuated thousands of Darood out of Xamar.

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Analyst Sahal,

The chosen candidate for President was Ismail Jimcaale. He was the elder of the party. Manifesto was actually against the USC philosophy of armed insurrection against MSB. Caydiid did not want the Presidency or to even capture Xamar quickly but instead surround it and make the MSB regime capitulate. However after MSB began shelling the Hawiye neighbhorhoods and killing notable Hawiye/Dir personalities, all bets were off. MSB provoked sectarian violence which forced a popular uprising by the Hawiye natives who were not necessarily USC. MSB was strategy was effective because he could term the conflict as Hawiye vs. Darood not one between MSB & Co (including his Hawiye allies) vs. the Rebels.

As for Manifesto, they were not a Hawiye grouping and contained personalities who worked with the MSB regime including Maxamed Abshir Hamane who was recorded on VHF radio giving USC position locations to the Darood and stating he was working hard to provoke violence between the Hiiraab.

Caydiid was not a qabiili at heart. If he had his way, he would have executed the Hawiye Faqash first starting with Abdiqasiim Salad, Abdullahi Addow, etc. If he was qabili, he wouldn't have camped in Baydhaba to plea for aid for the Rahanwein or personally evacuated thousands of Darood out of Xamar.

Evidence? Or is this HAG revisionist history.