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somaliler wrote:So Sidamo and Agew are not Xabasha? Only those 3 groups
Sidamo people are cushitic.
Agew people are highlandsr cushites whove mixed with Habeshas and are intrinsic to Habesha history in Ethiopia so many consider them Habesha.
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The term Xabasha used to be broad but now is exclusive to Tigray and Amxaar. Even Eritreans avoid that name.
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Adal99 wrote:The biggest fight will be between Oromos and Amharas for the province of Shewa. Oromos are in the wrong here, since historically Shewa had belonged to the Amhara people for thousands of yeara and theres many archeological finds that confirms this amd Oromos have only been in the region for a few hundred years whislt the Gallas are claiming that they are the real native of the region. Somalia or Djibouti will annex Hararge, Direadawa, for lands, the Habeshas will join forces and take Assab. Afars will be the main casualty here tho, theyre too small of an ethnix group to have real influence . Oromos will be fighting on all fronts since they have land disputes with every major ethnic group in the horn and they wont want to be landlocked.
Oromo and Amhara have heavly mixed now. Oromo live in some parts of the ethiopian highlands.
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somaliler wrote:The term Xabasha used to be broad but now is exclusive to Tigray and Amxaar. Even Eritreans avoid that name.

My friend is Eritrean and they don't. Only very patriotic Eritrean don't like to use that word because it a common term for people's beyond borders and they don't like that and stick to they Eritrean identity dispite 9 groups living in eritrea with no kinship ties.
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NomadicSoul1 wrote:
Adal99 wrote:The biggest fight will be between Oromos and Amharas for the province of Shewa. Oromos are in the wrong here, since historically Shewa had belonged to the Amhara people for thousands of yeara and theres many archeological finds that confirms this amd Oromos have only been in the region for a few hundred years whislt the Gallas are claiming that they are the real native of the region. Somalia or Djibouti will annex Hararge, Direadawa, for lands, the Habeshas will join forces and take Assab. Afars will be the main casualty here tho, theyre too small of an ethnix group to have real influence . Oromos will be fighting on all fronts since they have land disputes with every major ethnic group in the horn and they wont want to be landlocked.
Oromo and Amhara have heavly mixed now. Oromo live in some parts of the ethiopian highlands.
Oromos are only mixed with Habesha in Shewa and parts of Wollo most Oromos, are cushitic, but christian and some muslim Oromos in Shewa are mainly assimilated Habesha who were forced to become Oromo during the Oromo expansion. Thats why many Oromos in Adis ababa have Habesha surnames names and look no different to Amharas. You could see the difference, I see many Oromos at mosque and they look different to Oromos at orthodox church in my neighbourhood, they resemble Habeshas. Jimma Oromos are mainly mixed with assimilated Gurages and Oromo invaders. Etc. Oromos have been doing alot of raping and asimilating throughoit their history and they wonder why they are hated by Habesh people .
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NomadicSoul1 wrote:
somaliler wrote:The term Xabasha used to be broad but now is exclusive to Tigray and Amxaar. Even Eritreans avoid that name.

My friend is Eritrean and they don't. Only very patriotic Eritrean don't like to use that word because it a common term for people's beyond borders and they don't like that and stick to they Eritrean identity dispite 9 groups living in eritrea with no kinship ties.
Eritrean habeshas dont like to use the word Habesha because they have a superiority complex towards those in Ethiopia. Theyre culturally very similar, a Tigray has more in common with a tigrinya than an Amhara in Shewa for example. But because Ethiopian Habeshas have been mixing with cushitic invaders like Agew people (Zagwe) and when it comes to Amharas in Shewa and Wollo, Oromos, for hundreds of years, tthey feel like they cant be associated with Habeshas in Ethiopia just like Somalis dont like to associate with somalis bantus. Theyre very racist, which is why Eritrean habeshas like calling Tigrayans racial slurs. They have a complex no doubt, I had an Eritrean friends and the things they would say about Tigrayans showed the real,reason why they seceded. They feel like Habeshas in Ethiopia are tainted with lowlander cushitic blood. The italians brainwashed them to think theyre superior.
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Adal99 = Xabashi confirmed
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somaliler wrote:Adal99 = Xabashi confirmed
You were very close. Im half somali, half habesha. My mother is an Amhara muslim.
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What's so wrong with cushitic blood lol. I don't buy the semetic bloodline they just speak a language related to arabic and Hebrew that's all doesn't change ones blood line. A person in Asmara looks no different to a somali or amhara.
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Adal99 what is your clan/fathers clan?
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I'm assuming Somaliland. Adal empire.
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somaliler wrote:Adal99 what is your clan/fathers clan?
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NomadicSoul1 wrote:What's so wrong with cushitic blood lol. I don't buy the semetic bloodline they just speak a language related to arabic and Hebrew that's all doesn't change ones blood line. A person in Asmara looks no different to a somali or amhara.
. Eritreans habesh believe they are superior than everyone in the horn since they feele they have a real connection to Axum and that theyre are the real habeshas descendant from those who migrated from Arabia and everyone else are just assimilated cushites. They worship Arabs, and Italians made them believe they are closer to Arab people than Ethiopians, and hence they shouldnt be ruled by those comsidered inferior. Altho in my experience, theres not much difference between a tigrayan and a Tigrinya culturally or phenotypically, only minor differences. Theyre racist people. Eritrean habeshas dont like to admit this. They would never admit the reason they dont associate with Ethiopian habeshas is because of a racial superiority complex
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NomadicSoul1 wrote:I'm assuming Somaliland. Adal empire.
Somaliland and Adal empire xageey isku arkeen
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Habesha is the ancient name for Abyssinia in post Axum.

The Amhara, Tigrais, Gurage, Irroba, Adaris and Kebessa as well as Jiberti are Habesha.

These people identify with Habesha simply because they share the Tewahedo faith, Geez script and similar languages apart from Adaris and some Jaberti.

The Behir-Tigringa or Kebessa in Eritrea are Habesha but foe political reasons they reject the Abyssinization of Habesha.

They want to maintain all aspects of Habesha but reject it to identify with on the bases of accepting modern Ethiopian identity or rule.

The Eritrean liberation was started by the Eritrean lowlands and they rejected Habesha because they are not while some might be hybrid groups.

Habesha identity like Amhara long became associated with the Tewahedo faith and therefore when many became Muslims they left behind Habesha tag. Adaris are good example.

In the end Tigrais, Amhara and Kebessa may feud but have common agenda.

The Eritreans don't worship no Arabs but the Beja are divided between Sudan (Kasala region) and Eritrea (Ansebba).

Below Ansebba is the Gash region and the region is named after the same river that feeds Sudan's Kassala. The Beja always lived the land and they are the fathers of Eritrea's struggle namely Hamid Idris Awate (part Narra), who set up the Eritrean Liberation Army, the armed wing of ELF. That was later hijacked by the Habesha Kebessa under current President Isaias who changed it to EPLF.

Those in Sudan became better off and welcomed many from mainland Eritrea into Kasala where they learned Arabic. It is like when Isaaq came to Haud during Barre war.
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