Parliamentary Elections might be postponed yet again?

[samatar133]

2005kii maxkada sare waxay xukuntay in nidaamkii saami qaybsiga gobolada ee wakhtigaa lagu galay doorashadu uu halkaa mar uun ku ekaado. Saami qaybsiga doorashada soo socotana lagu saleeyo natiijada tiro-koob wadanka laga sameeyo. Dawladii Riyaale iyo tii Siilaanyo labaduba waa ka seexdeen inay tirokoob qabtaan. Hada laba/sadex bilood ka hor markii goboladii la tagay ee loo soo jeedshay in saami qaabsigii hore doorashada lagu galo maadaama aan tirokoobna dhicin, qaab kale oo wax loo qaybshaana aanu jirin, goboladii oo dhami waa ka biyo diideen, gobolka Awdal hawgu darnaadee. Reer Awdal waaba ku xilo fureen in aanay doorasho ka qayb galayn hadii tirada xildhibaanada gobolkooda ugu yaraan laba ama sadex xubnood oo cusub aan loogu darin. Taasina suurtogal maaha, sababtoo ah la heli maayo wada sharciyeed oo loogu cudurdaaro kordhin aan ku salaysnayn tirokoob.
Waxay noqonay uun in la ignore-gareeyo reer Awdal ama in doorashada dib loo dhigo. Labada tii fududayd ayaa la qaatay!!

Any way, I support a parliamentary saami-qaybsi based on population because I am from Maroodi-jeex and we set to gain from the new system

[hangool79]

It's being pushed back because of Awdal and Samaroons unfair demands for more parliamentary seats. Cirro, Muuse and Faysal Calu Waraabe as head of the three parties were unable to judge on this and I don't blame them because the three options on the table are all hard pills to swallow for some one.

Do u think thats right though?

U dont think we have a constitution.

In australia the government must at all cost held elections before their term is up. In most cases they go to the polls earlier than the deadline.

Only in somaliland are elections held years behind


Its unacceptable

No more who does it and for what reason

I 100% agree with you I dont think its right. There should have already been a solution to this problem. You will see that all of the political parties are in full agreement here. The reason is they dont want to upset the gudabirsi (any that comes out and says no to them risks losing votes in Awdal). Thier choice is to either give Gudabirsi what they want which is seats that are not rightfully theirs (they already have more than whats theirs) and upset everyone else in SL or tell Gudabirsi that they wont get anything extra and upset them.

The gudubuurs are a spoiled brat clan, they already have way too many seats compared to their size, this is actually a rather small clan not comparable to Isaaq as whole more 1 to 1 a Isaaq subclan.

How many seats do they have in parliament? lower and upper

[samatar133]

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They have 13 out of the 82 parliamentarians in the lower house, I am not sure about the upper house.

[caadani90]

2005kii maxkada sare waxay xukuntay in nidaamkii saami qaybsiga gobolada ee wakhtigaa lagu galay doorashadu uu halkaa mar uun ku ekaado. Saami qaybsiga doorashada soo socotana lagu saleeyo natiijada tiro-koob wadanka laga sameeyo. Dawladii Riyaale iyo tii Siilaanyo labaduba waa ka seexdeen inay tirokoob qabtaan. Hada laba/sadex bilood ka hor markii goboladii la tagay ee loo soo jeedshay in saami qaabsigii hore doorashada lagu galo maadaama aan tirokoobna dhicin, qaab kale oo wax loo qaybshaana aanu jirin, goboladii oo dhami waa ka biyo diideen, gobolka Awdal hawgu darnaadee. Reer Awdal waaba ku xilo fureen in aanay doorasho ka qayb galayn hadii tirada xildhibaanada gobolkooda ugu yaraan laba ama sadex xubnood oo cusub aan loogu darin. Taasina suurtogal maaha, sababtoo ah la heli maayo wada sharciyeed oo loogu cudurdaaro kordhin aan ku salaysnayn tirokoob.
Waxay noqonay uun in la ignore-gareeyo reer Awdal ama in doorashada dib loo dhigo. Labada tii fududayd ayaa la qaatay!!

Any way, I support a parliamentary saami-qaybsi based on population because I am from Maroodi-jeex and we set to gain from the new system

Census is not cheap and is very complicated especially in a nomadic society like Somaliland. The technology involved is more than just counting heads. Even if they put the parliamentary vote back two years I dont think it will be enough. I would say that it would take up to 5 years for SL to save a % of the budget to be able to carry out a proper census. Its not as easy to get international financial assistance for a census when compared to voter registration or an election.

I dont see why the results of the latest voter registration is not used as a bench mark as it is the most comprehensive and secure indication of regional voting population that we have ever had. Especially as these are the votes that will decide who is elected to parliament.

[Khalid Ali]

i agree.one man one vote no quotation for clans hadi kale no dimuqradiad. samaron cant have it both ways reeer walba laandheernimadoodu wax ha u gooyeso

i agree with ramzy a country ictraaf raba and we sell democracy we need to hold elections on time period no ifs and maybes

[samatar133]

Cadaani

Believe me census can be done within one year, it is not that complicated. Even the financial part is not a problem, we can raise it. The only problem is deciding who to count as a Somalilander. A legislation should come clarifying who is Somalilander and who is not. Isaaq/GB/Ciise/Dhulos/warsan across the border maxaa laga yeelayaa? Dadka xarshin/awnare/gaashamo/shiniile/Djibouti ku nool ma loo ogolaanayaa inay xadka ka soo talaabaan oo tirokoobka ka qayb galaan?

[caadani90]

Cadaani

Believe me census can be done within one year, it is not that complicated. Even the financial part is not a problem, we can raise it. The only problem is deciding who to count as a Somalilander. A legislation should come clarifying who is Somalilander and who is not. Isaaq/GB/Ciise/Dhulos/warsan across the border maxaa laga yeelayaa? Dadka xarshin/awnare/gaashamo/shiniile/Djibouti ku nool ma loo ogolaanayaa inay xadka ka soo talaabaan oo tirokoobka ka qayb galaan?

Those are just some of the main issues. how do you decide who is a Somalilander when our people are nomads who straddle borders? its hard because these people spend parts of the year in SL and parts of the year in Ethio or even Puntland or Djibouti because of grazing or other economic reasons. How do you effectively carryout a census in country where close to 50% still live as nomads and spend a lot of time on the move?

When the UN carried a census of Somalia a few years back a lot of their data was based on heat imaging which is almost guess work.

The most effective and time efficient way to solve this issue is to use the results of the voter registration to determine the number of parliamentary seats for the regions. But of course Reer Awdal are dead set against this and with good reason as it will show that they are in no way deserving of what they are asking for.

[MaydhMax]

the lower house of parliament (wakiilada) is more important than the president and its long overdue for MPs to face the voters. besides why cant we only directly elect the wakiilada and then the house of reps members alone immediately afterwards elect the president, we'd be replicating south africa and botswana

[Xiis1928]

I am surprised that none of you have yet to mention the Elephant in the room.

BTW Jibriil Abokor are larger clan than Gadabuursi. When we use representation by population, Awdal will have the lowest seat allocation in the House.

[theyuusuf143]

Borama waa magaalo aad iyo aad uga yar burco, horta waa waali cas haday doonayaan waxay burco hesho wax ka badan . Kkkkk

[kanadiid90]

Borama waa magaalo aad iyo aad uga yar burco, horta waa waali cas haday doonayaan waxay burco hesho wax ka badan . Kkkkk

comparing it to gabiley is it bigger or same size?

[Khalid Ali]

samatar what sl just should do is enshrine in the constitution the recognized ethnic somaliland clans.
isaaq 8 sub clans. samaroon ciise dhulbahante warsangali. these 5 tribes should be the only recognized clans of the Republic

[theyuusuf143]

Borama waa magaalo aad iyo aad uga yar burco, horta waa waali cas haday doonayaan waxay burco hesho wax ka badan . Kkkkk

comparing it to gabiley is it bigger or same size?

dee markan mentality ga reer awdal oo kale aan isku rakibo gebiley deenaa weyn! Markan cagta u dhigana dee ilaahay baa ina dilayee isuma dhowa boramaa weyn. Adigu hadba mood kaynu ku jirno ayaan cadaalada ku salaynayaa illeen rasuul Ummada loosoo diray ma ahi oo waa iska Caadi hadaan sida bini aadamka kale laangaabkaan doono ku tunto. Gadabuursi oo dhan berkad reer daahir qoday ma laaci karaan ( caqliga la kaashoo waa hadaan kala horo) kkkkkkkkkkkkk.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Awdal can't get what Burco has becuase Borama is one clan and Burco is larger and has more clans.

All the 5 clans should be accepted as Citizens.

If no counting is done.

HA, HJ, HY, Dhulos & GedoBursi should have equal seats.

Warsan, Cidaagale, Cise, Arap the rest of the seats.