The Awakening of the Gondar lions

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Re: The Awakening of the Gondar lions

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Raganimo wrote:
GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:
Raganimo wrote:
Amhara have more Muslims than Tigray.
Where at in lasqoray?

Amhara only good for business but when it comes to politics they are washed up.
It's a fact. Tigray are almost exclusively Christian.
do some research young fella I wasn't born last night tigray have muslims too. :comeon:
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Raganimo wrote:
Talo alle udaa wrote:I have noticed the Tigre have a soft spot for the Axmara as they continue to baby sit these "uprisings". While the Oromo are "mawed" down with bullets by special forces mainly consisting of Woyane, the Axmara are allowed to congregate and demonstrate.

Just the other day near Harar several Oromo civilians were massacred while protesting majority of whom were Muslims.
They are scared of the Amhara.
No they are more scared of the Oromo who will do a Rwanda on them. The Axmara are closer to the Tigray than the Oromo hence the preferential treatment.
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Guban, Even sheikh Zenawi bows his head in shame at your ignorance :meles:
AwRastaale wrote:The Shoa Amhara are much respected fighters but when it comes to Ethiopian history and battles won-------it was always delivered one way or another by the Gonderis and the Wolloye regardless of their ethnicity.

The greatest Shoa ruler was Menelik II and himself was both inspired (by Tewodros of Gonder), mould and delivered (freed by Oromo) by the Wollo warriors.

Even in the battle of Adwa, 70% of the fighters came from Gondar under two commands (Ras Wale of the Yejju Oromo, Ras Gebeyehu and Wollo (under Ras Ali Mikael/Mohammed).

The only battalion Menelik had from Shoa was that headed by the Oromo warrior Ras Balcha Aba Safo. Much of this army was built under the Shoan Oromo warrior Ras Gobena who helped Menelik to expand south.

It was in the end the Oromo who truly defeated the Italian army. In all forces, Oromo led three major battalions who in the end surroundered the Italians; that of Ras Wale (Yejju Oromo like Haile Selassie, Lij Iyasu/eliyas), Ras Ali of Wollo who had the largest army and even freed Menelik prevously with the help of the Oromo queen Worqitu, and of course Ras Balcha Aba Safo.

Really Shoa Amhara cannot name more than two names when it comes to battles and even Menelik was not full Amhara nor was his family. In the end he relinquished his power to the hands of his Oromo courtesy of his grandson Lij Iyasu of the Yejju Oromo before his wife took it away and gave to Ras Tafari----another Oromo (Haile Selassie).

That chapter of Ethiopia is more Oromo than Amhara.

It's about time Gonder and Wollo returned to power.
Ethiopian history is indeed fascinating, I'll give you that.

Sxb, tell me some more about the origins of the habashis. Is it true that they descend from the Agaws? Or do you believe that they descend from semitic merchants?
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OK ragenimo show me these amharic muslim rulers that you think exist.
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GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:OK ragenimo show me these amharic muslim rulers that you think exist.
I never said anything about rulers. According to Ethiopian census Amhara are 18% Muslim (which means there are probably even more Muslims lol). Tigrayan Muslims are estimated to make up around 3% of the tigrayan population. Just Google it.
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Raganimo wrote:
GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:OK ragenimo show me these amharic muslim rulers that you think exist.
I never said anything about rulers. According to Ethiopian census Amhara are 18% Muslim (which means there are probably even more Muslims lol). Tigrayan Muslims are estimated to make up around 3% of the tigrayan population. Just Google it.
Exactly like I said amhara muslims you referring to don't have no political say so the tigray muslims I'm referring to actually have powerful seats in the government like supreme general of ethiopia.
Samora Muhammad Yunis (Amharic: ሳሞራ ሙሃምማድ ዩንስ) is the Chief of Staff of the Ethiopian National Defence Forces. He is a four-star general of Ethiopia Samora Yunis was born in the Tigray Region of northern Ethiopia. He fought for the military wing of the Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Democratic Front, playing a leading role in the Battle of Shire (18–19 February 1989).
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Guban,

Raganimo aya ka saxsaan.

Not only are Amhara have more Muslims but they were and still are more friendly towards Muslims than Tigrais.

Iyaga hal nin uun ba Emperor uu noqday kas oo aha Emperor Yohannes IV. Wuxu odhan jiray Musliiminta hala convert gareyo ama hala laalayo.

Most Muslims used to be converted by force in public humiliation and that's when Beja Muslims from eastern Sudan declared war on him.

Ugu danbaynti nin Eritrean oo Beja ah aya qorta ka jaray oo xata medkiisi way qaten. Sidas buna Menelik II emperor uu noqday.

Also Muslims were not allowed in Axum under Tigraian culture and that's how many Muslims migrated to Eritrea.

During Yohannes most Muslims used to get Cross tattoo to hide their identity so they may live another day.

Most Amhara cities have dozens of mosques.

During and before Menelik many leaders were Muslim and his own wife was from largely Muslim family. His closest ally Ras Ali Mohammed was Muslim.

His grandson was Muslim. He appointed him as his future successor but the kid felt out off place so he abandoned the palace and that's why they throned Ras Tafari instead.

Also Muslim Oromo dynasty did rule Gonder. The house of Yejju Oromo were Muslim rulers and had huge influence on Ethiopian history since 17-19th century.

Aside from the recurrent problem of the powerful king of Shewa, Yohannes’ domestic concerns were mainly to reduce the power of the other regional nobles (and thus create a unitary government) and to increase his hold on his subjects through enforced conversion to the Ethiopian Orthodox church. His attempt to use religion as a basis for unity aroused resistance, however, particularly from Muslims who were ordered to build churches, pay tithes, and eventually be baptized.

The expansionist khedive (Ottoman viceroy) Ismāʿīl Pasha of Egypt posed the first external threat to Yohannes’ empire. By the mid-1870s Egypt had encroached on Ethiopia to the east and south, but Ethiopian forces, in what verged on an anti-Muslim crusade, won decisive victories in the mountainous country of the north in 1875 and 1876. Italy, the next aggressor, in 1885 occupied the former Turkish and Egyptian Red Sea port of Mitsiwa (now Massawa, Eritrea) and then began to expand inland toward the province of Tigray, only to be soundly defeated by Yohannes in 1887. In the same year, the Islamic revivalist Mahdist forces, gaining ground in the Sudan, invaded Ethiopia and devastated the old capital, Gonder. In retaliation, and possibly in the hope of getting Sudanese gold and slaves and even of gaining access to the Nile River, Yohannes invaded the Sudan and was killed in the Battle of Metema (March 1889).
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The tigray muslims in eritrea count too but that's a different story.

So yall really prefer an amharic ruled ethiopia. :lol:
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GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:The tigray muslims in eritrea count too but that's a different story.

So yall really prefer a amharic ruled ethiopia. :lol:
You mean the Tigre bro. The Tigrinya are almost entirely Christian.

Amharas are much worse in the long run due to their imperialist ambitions. Our best bet is inay isku dhamaadaan. We can't have these people meddling in our affairs. They benefit from our weakness.
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amhara are much better than tigres amhara have more muslims with amhara what u see is what u get. even for ogadens who want independence amhara is much better tigre made sure somali fight somali in kililka if amhara comes u will fight amhara. amhara are more honest more family orientated have more muslims. by the way hawdian shoa amhara had far more warriors and history than gonder amhara southern frontier was far more advanced than the northern. the best rasses the best fighters come from the central regions of erhiopia. i agree with ragganimo tigre are scared of amhara. because they know they will eventually be ruled by amhara.
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OK that settles it we will bring back amharic rule back to ethiopia since no is fond of tigray rule for the past 25 years I guess ginbot was hoax after all. :lol:
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GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:The tigray muslims in eritrea count too but that's a different story.

So yall really prefer an amharic ruled ethiopia. :lol:
Don't drink the Amhara koolaide they're offering :lol:

Their motivated by tribal politics thinking Tigray are anti Issaq smh

Tigray regime is the lesser evil for Somali people anyways, the Amhara even banned Islamic prayer when they ruled the Ogaden region. Now that Ethiopia is divided into ethnic states , it's a blessing in disguise.
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Advo wrote: Don't drink the Amhara koolaide they're offering :lol:

Their motivated by tribal politics thinking Tigray are anti Issaq smh

Tigray regime is the lesser evil for Somali people anyways, the Amhara even banned Islamic prayer when they ruled the Ogaden region. Now that Ethiopia is divided into ethnic states , it's a blessing in disguise.
This is confusing which one is lesser of the two evils I thought both were deadly. :lol:

To tell you the truth I could care less who rules ethiopia same shit for me just another toilet.
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darood prefer tigray because afweyne backed the tplf. and the tplf tried to help darod to power cabdilahi yusuf thats why our darood friends prefer the agames. and the tpld helped promote dhaanto for our darood cousins. so they think their interest are better served with the tigres.

guban amhara is much better than the tplf.
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who care which Xabashi rules Ethiopia? All I care about is will the disintegration happen soon, so that we could be free of their bad smell! Stupid somalis debating which one is gud to rule Ethiopia thru their clannish prism SMH
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