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Taarikhda maraykan-ka markaad eegto , had iyo jeer xita bilowgi caddanka dhexdooda , jarmal iyo irishoo dagaal isku qaadi jiray , talyaanida markey yimaadeen , yuhuuda , eastern european-ka , japanse-ka oo xerooyin lagu riday , qolo walba oo soo degta dhibaato ayay kala kulanta . Cabaar markey joogan oo loo barto ayuun ba qolo kale nacayb-ka lagu qaada . Mexican-ka iyo muslimiintu waa qoloda uga cusub e hadda lagu riixanayo mustaqbal siyasadeed-ka . Xoogo wuxu jira ninkaanan u bixin oo og inu XEERKU halkiisa jiro .
Hadda lakin twitter iyo facebook iyo internet-ku , qof waliba ayuu "political activist" ka dhiga yoo , cabaad baad mooda in lagu masruufo dadkan qaarki .
Hal mar SOMALI afkiisa musa carab marin , waa la ashkateen kara ma'ogtahay laakin kuwan uun ba isku dhigaya "dhidhidhi , wuu ina caayay , waynu iska celinayna , dhadhadha "

SahanGalbeed wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeuZvGhwLiM

Loved to see the Bern clapping in that last frame. Thanks, Ina Baxar.


Edit: Somebody besides me screwed this post up. I know who he is, but I thanked Sahan.

SahanGalbeed wrote:So let's me see if I got this right gegiroor ?
By voting for Hillary , you cannot" live with the blood of innocent muslims being shed " .
So are you suggesting that Qaddafi wasn't killing his own people who are also muslims ?
I supported the decision to take Qaddafi out , why ? Because he was a dictator ! The same way I supported the ousting of Somali's dictator , I encourage anyone who lives in a single man's country to rebel . Now does the fact that Lybians just like somalis cannot get their act together remain the fault of Hillary Clinton after she's chosen to help the people who wanted to remove the abusive leader ? Absolutely not . If you're not gonna vote then remain silent my friend

Dadkan dhalashadooda u daaya , hadduna system koogu idin deeqayn .

Aaah Waan Gartay saaxiib. Invasion of Libya a war under the cover of Human rights. Did you really buy that? Ma dhoqon ba tahay


Look at what the saviors of humanity did in the name of democracy. Why is Libya worse off then it was under Gaddafi? What was the west going try Gaddafi for? Sentence him to death for developing the economy?

The west has no right to interfere with the percieved internal conflicts of another country and have no right to invade & butcher kil thousands in the name of protecting people. What does it say about the Humanity of the west when like a mob of wild animals will jeer the death of someone?
When leaders from the so-called civilized modern world, who are quick to talk about human rights and POW rights, encourage and support an assassination of a leader they don't like. But An estimated 2 million people gathered at Green Square in Tripoli, Libya on July 1, 2011 in support of Muammar Gaddafi and against NATO aggression, approximately one third of the Libyan population. So we have to ask who were the West protecting?

For the rebels, a few things should have halted their treatment of Gaddafi; Geneva convention, Islamic rights of prisoners and moreover their basic humanity. There is no "he deserved it", doesn't work like that, hence these laws. They came to power under a human rights flag, is it not telling and somewhat ironic that they kill Africans and behave like a wild mob?

Granted Gaddafi was a Pan-African Muslim warrior who fought for Muslims and Africans.A brave lion of Africa whom you will never begin to understand viewing him from the western cloak.

To all the neo-colonialist know your oppression will never last forever, your day will come. And right now, across the globe we see people standing up and looking beyond the price of oil for their humanity. -Gadaffi.

May Hillary Clinton meet a pure naar for her crimes.

Raganimo wrote:Somalis brought life to Portland. The community in Portland is doing quite well Alhamdulillah. The locals have grown to appreciate them.

MashaAllah it's the same in Minneapolis the city was just another Midwest town when we came here in the 90's but now it's Lit the economy is booming housing prices keep going while most of the country is down. Where ever we go the economy booms and people flood that city. Just look at Nairobi, Mombasa, Minneapolis etc Dadka Somalida wa blessed alxamdullillah

SahanGalbeed wrote:So let's me see if I got this right gegiroor ?
By voting for Hillary , you cannot" live with the blood of innocent muslims being shed " .
So are you suggesting that Qaddafi wasn't killing his own people who are also muslims ?
I supported the decision to take Qaddafi out , why ? Because he was a dictator ! The same way I supported the ousting of Somali's dictator , I encourage anyone who lives in a single man's country to rebel . Now does the fact that Lybians just like somalis cannot get their act together remain the fault of Hillary Clinton after she's chosen to help the people who wanted to remove the abusive leader ? Absolutely not . If you're not gonna vote then remain silent my friend

Dadkan dhalashadooda u daaya , hadduna system koogu idin deeqayn .

Under Gaddafi, Libya was the most prosperous nation in Africa and Libyans had the highest standard of living in the whole continent. After he was overthrown with the death of 100,000 people, Libya is in total anarchy today. Under Gaddafi, Somalis were protected, but today thousands have lost their lives in this anarchy - all due to the courtesy of your beloved, crooked-nosed Hillary.

In Syria, she campaigned for a total assault on that country. This is the same women who voted for the war in Iraq. Her husband spearheaded the crippling economic sanctions that killed 1.5 million Iraqi children.

I don't know about you Sahan, but the death of millions of Muslims does bother me.

But the sad reality is that the alternative is very bad; her opponent, Trump, is a bigot who is her best recruiter. Very sad indeed!

Anyhow, the new atheist SahanGalbeed, stop derailing the thread. It is about Trump and his scapegoating of Somali community, not about your beloved Hillary.

TheMightyNomad wrote:

SahanGalbeed wrote:So let's me see if I got this right gegiroor ?
By voting for Hillary , you cannot" live with the blood of innocent muslims being shed " .
So are you suggesting that Qaddafi wasn't killing his own people who are also muslims ?
I supported the decision to take Qaddafi out , why ? Because he was a dictator ! The same way I supported the ousting of Somali's dictator , I encourage anyone who lives in a single man's country to rebel . Now does the fact that Lybians just like somalis cannot get their act together remain the fault of Hillary Clinton after she's chosen to help the people who wanted to remove the abusive leader ? Absolutely not . If you're not gonna vote then remain silent my friend

Dadkan dhalashadooda u daaya , hadduna system koogu idin deeqayn .

Aaah Waan Gartay saaxiib. Invasion of Libya a war under the cover of Human rights. Did you really buy that? Ma dhoqon ba tahay


Look at what the saviors of humanity did in the name of democracy. Why is Libya worse off then it was under Gaddafi? What was the west going try Gaddafi for? Sentence him to death for developing the economy?

The west has no right to interfere with the percieved internal conflicts of another country and have no right to invade & butcher kil thousands in the name of protecting people. What does it say about the Humanity of the west when like a mob of wild animals will jeer the death of someone?
When leaders from the so-called civilized modern world, who are quick to talk about human rights and POW rights, encourage and support an assassination of a leader they don't like. But An estimated 2 million people gathered at Green Square in Tripoli, Libya on July 1, 2011 in support of Muammar Gaddafi and against NATO aggression, approximately one third of the Libyan population. So we have to ask who were the West protecting?

For the rebels, a few things should have halted their treatment of Gaddafi; Geneva convention, Islamic rights of prisoners and moreover their basic humanity. There is no "he deserved it", doesn't work like that, hence these laws. They came to power under a human rights flag, is it not telling and somewhat ironic that they kill Africans and behave like a wild mob?

Granted Gaddafi was a Pan-African Muslim warrior who fought for Muslims and Africans.A brave lion of Africa whom you will never begin to understand viewing him from the western cloak.

To all the neo-colonialist know your oppression will never last forever, your day will come. And right now, across the globe we see people standing up and looking beyond the price of oil for their humanity. -Gadaffi.

May Hillary Clinton meet a pure naar for her crimes.

Well said TheMightyNomad

Sahangalbeed, with all due respect you have been thoroughly misinformed by your news sources. America is not and will never be a world leader in human-rights and democracy. It is a nation that has interfered with disastrous effect in the affairs of many once peaceful and prosperous nations.

Grant wrote:

SahanGalbeed wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeuZvGhwLiM

Loved to see the Bern clapping in that last frame. Thanks, Ina Baxar.


Edit: Somebody besides me screwed this post up. I know who he is, but I thanked Sahan.

you are old, white and christian.... i would assume you support republicans and trump!!

Hyperactive wrote:

Grant wrote:

SahanGalbeed wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeuZvGhwLiM

Loved to see the Bern clapping in that last frame. Thanks, Ina Baxar.


Edit: Somebody besides me screwed this post up. I know who he is, but I thanked Sahan.

you are old, white and christian.... i would assume you support republicans and trump!!

Boy, have you got that wrong. Kindly recall that the PC was a John F Kennedy project. I walked in a few civil rights marches in the 60's, voted for Bernie in the Primary and will vote for Hillary this fall. You have normally been wrong about me, Hyper.

^^ yes i was wrong about you this time (i only admiting this time ).

waaw grant, you were with bernie? that guy made me cry in convension. i love that old man. i want grew like him. i mean it. honest and true to his values.

What has happened in Lybia rests on the inability of the Lybian people to rebuild their country . Qaddafi was a megalomaniac blood thirsty fuc,ker . Let me give you an example . When the United States destroyed Germany in WW2 , the germans didn't turn on each other as to whose fault was it or how did they get there . No ! They rolled up their sleeves and rebuild their country . The fact to the matter is whether it is Iraq , Somalia , Lybia or Syria , all these countries who happen to be muslims do not have a sense of unity{ something that is a developemental process } like other people do { Japan , Korea} . It is always easier to blame your shortcomings on others but Hillary Clinton is not to be blamed for the way Lybia turned , I'm sorry to say .

TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:Sahangalbeed, with all due respect you have been thoroughly misinformed by your news sources. America is not and will never be a world leader in human-rights and democracy. It is a nation that has interfered with disastrous effect in the affairs of many once peaceful and prosperous nations.

Was Iraq better in terms of global security under Saddam Hussein ? yes . Were the people of Iraq living a life of freedom and equality and Saddam Hussein ? no !
Was Lybia better under Qaddafi for global security , if we forget the bombing of a Pan Am jumbo jet in Scotland, yes . Were the people of Lybia betteroff ? I don't think so or the whole Eastern part of the country would not have risen .
Was Syria better under al Assad when he ruled like a king ? yes . Were the people better off ? I don't know ask the muslim brothers who opposed his father and him .
What can a reasonable person conclude that America has to gain by making these countries less stable , countries in which terrorist groups that seek to hurt America take root subsequently ? what ? Nothing !!
What I believe is , America in a simplistic almost naive way look at the world in a struggle between good an evil . Look at Egypt , the right wingers in this country accused Obama of letting the Egyptian people settling their score with Mubarak . The United States supported the muslim brothers in the beginning , everybody was accusing Obama for being a " closeted" muslim , until the military took power when al Sisi declared that he didn't have time for "democracy experiments , while the security of his country was dissolving " .
In fact what I suspect happened is the military has always been an elite in Egypt since they deposed the king and these guys have replaced the aristocracy { money and land controlled by the generals in Egypt is big }
To make this shorter , we have reached a new era , where the man in the muslim world has a smart phone and through facebook can see the lives the people in Europe or America are leading and he wants the same thing . FREEDOM, EQUALITY and eventually prosperity .What I fear is that America after all the chaotic result of these uprising determine that nobody in the middle East is ready , that democracy is not for the muslims , when in fact it is a developmental process

Am beginning to believe that Sahan is pulling our legs and doesn't really believe half of what his saying.

Well done, you had me going for a minute.
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SahanGalbeed wrote:

TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote:Sahangalbeed, with all due respect you have been thoroughly misinformed by your news sources. America is not and will never be a world leader in human-rights and democracy. It is a nation that has interfered with disastrous effect in the affairs of many once peaceful and prosperous nations.

Was Iraq better in terms of global security under Saddam Hussein ? yes . Were the people of Iraq living a life of freedom and equality and Saddam Hussein ? no !
Was Lybia better under Qaddafi for global security , if we forget the bombing of a Pan Am jumbo jet in Scotland, yes . Were the people of Lybia betteroff ? I don't think so or the whole Eastern part of the country would not have risen .
Was Syria better under al Assad when he ruled like a king ? yes . Were the people better off ? I don't know ask the muslim brothers who opposed his father and him .
What can a reasonable person conclude that America has to gain by making these countries less stable , countries in which terrorist groups that seek to hurt America take root subsequently ? what ? Nothing !!
What I believe is , America in a simplistic almost naive way look at the world in a struggle between good an evil . Look at Egypt , the right wingers in this country accused Obama of letting the Egyptian people settling their score with Mubarak . The United States supported the muslim brothers in the beginning , everybody was accusing Obama for being a " closeted" muslim , until the military took power when al Sisi declared that he didn't have time for "democracy experiments , while the security of his country was dissolving " .
In fact what I suspect happened is the military has always been an elite in Egypt since they deposed the king and these guys have replaced the aristocracy { money and land controlled by the generals in Egypt is big }
To make this shorter , we have reached a new era , where the man in the muslim world has a smart phone and through facebook can see the lives the people in Europe or America are leading and he wants the same thing . FREEDOM, EQUALITY and eventually prosperity .What I fear is that America after all the chaotic result of these uprising determine that nobody in the middle East is ready , that democracy is not for the muslims , when in fact it is a developmental process

Even if you sincerely believe what you have just wrote, and let us say hypothetically it is true, the USA has no right whatsoever to be the world's policeman. One cannot and must not impose their values forcefully upon others.