Kenya-Somalia Maritime Spat Goes to Hague Court

[Hyperactive]

emotional support here taa omban kara.

[Khalid Ali]

i am very indifferent really who ever wins wins for his own Somalia will not give an inch of its waters to us nor will they share their resources with us nor will they stop claiming our land. And the kenyans will do what is best for their kenya. Geopolitically as the odds stand now a strong Kenya is in our Somaliland interest but old foes can become friends and old friends can become enemies in East Africa all can happen. Hence why i am also neutral

futurist i am in hargeysa now but if i was in the netherlands i would go there

Walaalkii loo xiidh'yow adna soo qoyso!!

who said they are my walaalo lol my only walaalo in the Horn are the 8 sons of Sheikh isxaaq and to some extend beeelahaa darafiyada SL Hadi laga tagi waayo waxan walaweysan our maternal uncles in Nazareth and Wollo depending on the situation. I doubt Kenya wants to Harm Somaliland we dont even share a border we are not hostile towards they are not hostile towards us.

[CigaalSHiiDaaDCFC]

^ ^ you can't be serious cmon sxb nin weyn ayaa tahay, dnt let qabyaalad take ur damiir. I don't care what's between us and somalila, when it comes Somalia vs foreigner we should always stand with Somalia! Just for for the fact that they are Somalis, Muslims and our neighbours. Ps, if Kenya wins this, they will claim something els until they knock your door! What was that famous saying, "frist they came ..."

[Khalid Ali]

^ ^ you can't be serious cmon sxb nin weyn ayaa tahay, dnt let qabyaalad take ur damiir. I don't care what's between us and somalila, when it comes Somalia vs foreigner we should always stand with Somalia! Just for for the fact that they are Somalis, Muslims and our neighbours. Ps, if Kenya wins this, they will claim something els until they knock your door! What was that famous saying, "frist they came ..."

Shit people like u get us killed please walaal leave this to us Politicians, idoorku want to play gob with dad gun ah.. Its like inad rabtiid inad D1llo so muslimisid.Somaliland official position on this neutral because it does not concern us really. Why dont u care what is between us and Somalia , that is the only thing that matters right now,they care what is between us. Do u know why they stopped the qat to their Mogadishu hawiye fara badan may qayiling weeg because some Kenyan said Somaliland baan icitraafaya loool Kenya is claiming some waters because they believe it is theirs the walanweyns and the Kenyans can fight it off and we watch from the distance. there is no qabyalaad inadeer or damiir lost i am doing all us a favour and protecting our interest and that is our first priority.

[Raganimo]

Wallahi Somalis are a diseased bunch and this forum is full of sick, toxic people. Now I remember why I left this shit hole all those years ago.

Look at the shortsightedness of a guy like Khalid. He thinks that he is a politician, yet the xoolo is commenting purely based on emotions and not logic. Objectively speaking, it is not in his interests to support Kenya due to the dangerous precedent that Kenya's annexation of Somalia's territorial waters would set for the region. He does not understand the power dynamics in the region and that Kenya is taking advantage of its dominant position in the region to out-muscle a weakened Somali state. Somaliland is in an even more vulnerable position in relation to the other dominant country in the region, Ethiopia. Who is to say that 10, 15 or 20 years from now, Ethiopia will not make a similar move against a militarily/politically weak Somali region like Somaliland (still no ictiraaf)? Why would the same countries that are systematically destabilising Somalia not do the same to Somaliland? There are already tribal/political divisions (although Isaaqs try to hide these divisions) that are likely to grow in the future and they could easily be exploited by foreign governments. Remember, we're looking 10-20 years into the future. Kenya's annexation of Somali waters should raise alarms all over Africa, let alone a weak, unrecognized region of a destabilised country. Try to look past your petty fkd talking points and think deeply about the implications of what you're saying.

These short-sighted idiots can only see Daarood and Hawiye and are not wise enough to see the bigger picture.

That's aside from the moral/ethical issue of supporting clear injustice.

[COOL-MAN]

Maxuu yiri "hawiye badan may qayilin weeg because some kenyatti said he will recognize somaliland"
Waryaa Khalid will commit suicide if ever Somalia and Somalia reconcile

[AwRastaale]

We should remain neutral on this issue. End of the day no son of Isaaq is going there to fish regardless who controls it. In fact a Isaaq Sujui has more chance obtaining permit from the Kenyan gov than one from Mogadishu or Jubbaland admin.

The waters belonged to the Bantus who long settled in The Riverine region but long got displaced from the interior. Maybe Kenya, the guardian of the Bantus, can save the maritime area.

Kenya has the objective to recover not only maritime but the interior too by first embedding itself with Jubbaland but will slowly repopulate the region with Bantus. In the opposite direction will be 100m wall that stops Darood and Hawiye invading Bantu regions.

Just like NFD over time dynamics will change.

I say let's remain neutral.

Good luck to both of them.

Gacanyare is great thinker but Kenya is no interest for us.

[barbarossa]

Lawyers Paul Reichler of Foley Hoag LLP, New York and Prof Allain Pellet, a Frenchman, are representing Somalia.

Never heard of em!

The best lawyers a shoestring NGO budget can buy.

[COOL-MAN]

It would be the right thing really to defeat the Fascist italians what ever Rivalry between the Somalis and the Habasha we should stick together when there is an out side race comes. By the way we cannot compare an European Army with domestic revolt inside ethiopia.

Khalid why don't you use this same logic to stand with your Somali brothers against the aggressive Kenyans. You have a soft spot for habashis but not even the people you share the same forum with, speak the same language, share the same religion with?

[COOL-MAN]

Lawyers Paul Reichler of Foley Hoag LLP, New York and Prof Allain Pellet, a Frenchman, are representing Somalia.

Never heard of em!

The best lawyers a shoestring NGO budget can buy.

Lol

[CigaalSHiiDaaDCFC]

Lol@ ppl like u get us killed .. Siyaasiyow, Sland is gaining nothing by being neutral or siding with Kenyans. If it was Ethiopia I would understand if you say I am looking after my interest. But by siding with Somalia, Mogadishu may finally sign our ictiraaf paper in all seriousness, I appreciate ur passionate for your ppl and country but Somalia oo dhulkeeda amba badeeda la biliqaysto isn't in our best interest.

[Raganimo]

We should remain neutral on this issue. End of the day no son of Isaaq is going there to fish regardless who controls it. In fact a Isaaq Sujui has more chance obtaining permit from the Kenyan gov than one from Mogadishu or Jubbaland admin.

The waters belonged to the Bantus who long settled in The Riverine region but long got displaced from the interior. Maybe Kenya, the guardian of the Bantus, can save the maritime area.

I say let's remain neutral.

Good luck to both of them.

Gacanyare is great thinker but Kenya is no interest for us.

Xoolo

[Khalid Ali]

Cool man Somalia and Somalia reconcile lol u got me there lol but Somalia and Somaliland can never reconcile , Eritrea and Ethiopia can never really reconcile South Sudan and Sudan can never reconcile. our distrust is even much deeper we tried to whipe each other.


Ragganimo Kenya is not Ethiopia and Ethiopia is also not Kenya. Ethiopia concentration lies in North Ethiopia there is a bigger chance Ethiopia to invade Eritrea than Ethiopia to invade Somaliland by the way what makes u think we in Somaliland are just going to sit still and wont change our situation boost our strength and make security arrangement Kenya is not our Problem Kenya is your problem , kenya is a walanweyn problem really their army is not in Somaliland even ethiopia is not our problem the only problem we had with ethiopia is with liyuu and that is with the isaaqs insid e Ethiopia and we are about to solve that once the tribal tigre junta is removed and the Amhara take over so we got it all in the pocket saaxib. For us in Somaliland , Somalia is a liability to our cause so who ever weakens them it is better for us may they be Alshabaab Jihadist ISIS or Amisom or Kenya or Ethiopia its all politics saaxib no emotions Somalia is not our friend so why would we treat it as a friend just because they speak our language also we would not cheerlead for Kenya just because we dislike or having face off with Mogadishu not at all we will watch the war and the dispute from a distance unless though the kenyans present to us a great offer other than that they are your problem. I say let the walanweyns and the kenyans have their little war for us it doesn't concern us we shall watch it from a close distance.

[COOL-MAN]

Khalid, I hope they don't in your lifetime for your wellbeing

[Raganimo]

Khalid

Again, you do not understand the concept of "setting a precedent". Ethiopia does have interests in Somaliland and always has. Your state is very weak and in no position to kick up a fuss should Ethiopia decide to follow the precedent that was set by Kenya sometime in the future. Try to look past your petty fkd talking points.

Also, given the fact that you will never get ictiraaf, what happens in Somalia is definitely in your interest