almost 25% of all american muslims raised in muslim household left islam in 2014

[BarreLoyalist0]

not surprising, expect this to continue until Muslims get their house in order and stop being the only religion unable to adapt to the 21st century

you can avoid this by living in a Muslim country but imho, only 2-3 Muslim majority countries are fit for human habitation

Saudi Arabia and even makkah and medinah youth are turning away from islam so it has nothing to do with where u live same goes to egypt which has seen an increase in atheist ex muslims or agnostics

[MrSinister]

every action has an equal and opposite reaction, this is a reaction to the extreme salafi movement.

[AwRastaale]

Foxnews.

[Raganimo]

Biggest threat to Islam is secularism,
You won't see many Christian or Buddhist Somalis but
Soon a large percentage of us will be " secular"
Or kaafir.

Salafis cannot address secularism and will lose in a head to head battle.
And since salafism is set to become the majority of Sunnis, there will be no immunity to secularism.

Basically we are all doomed.
I suggest you all go and learn more about the deen so that you can educate your kids.
We all have to work three times harder than our parents to insure that our kids do not become gaalo.

Sxb it's the result of a relentless ideological attack on Islam for the past 15 years while these Salafis and even Sufi extremists were busy arguing about Al-Asmaa wa Sifaat, Mawlid and other such non-issues (at least compared to the onslaught of secular/liberal propaganda against our youth).

At the centre of it all is the issue of identity and the pressure to conform and assimilate which parents and community leaders have not been able to address. I've debated with a number of these so called ex-Muslims and usually, two things become immediately clear during such debates:

1) Most of them lack basic fundamental knowledge about Islam
2) Lack of knowledge about global politics, democracy, secularism etc..

Add to this the fact that most Islamic scholars have afraid to debate these issues from an Islamic perspective for fear of being branded as "radical extremists".

Western Muslims are a mess.

[X.Playa]

Take Gureys crazy advice and most Muslims will abandon Islam after reading two chapters of Bukhaari and Muslim, rape, pillaging, looting, torture, genocide is justified by simply saying " it's ok beacuse mohammed did it".

The only reasons Muslims have faith in Islam is due to two things ignorance and fear. Once they begin to educate themselves in a free society like Europe and America they will see the light.

[Advo]

We always had the village atheist and we will always have em. But I don't believe those fake ass stats.

[X.Playa]

Your only solution is to reform and modernize and up grade from the 7th century . No amount of wearing black clothes and Arab apeing will help.

[Raganimo]

X.playa, you're a simpleton and have been exposed as such on numerous occasions. You resort to cheap insults when you run out of things to say.

These xoolo whine about Holy texts (which they misrepresent and quote out of context) but will excuse the actual pillaging, rape and looting when it is done in the name of whatever ideology that they support. Heck, this particular neef will support those acts if they are done in the name of his tribe.

[original dervish]

He's more of a coon than a tribalist........if ole whitey said or done it then it must be the truth.

[X.Playa]

X.playa, you're a simpleton and have been exposed as such on numerous occasions. You resort to cheap insults when you run out of things to say.

These xoolo whine about Holy texts (which they misrepresent and quote out of context) but will excuse the actual pillaging, rape and looting when it is done in the name of whatever ideology that they support. Heck, this particular neef will support those acts if they are done in the name of his tribe.

Its your religion that teaches rape is sanctioned by "allah" and when Muslims wage war on people they can rape women prisoners of war because its suna ( practiced by Mohammed).

Whay get mad when people opposes such a backward religion that makes rape and slavery permissible ?

[Raganimo]

X.playa, you're a simpleton and have been exposed as such on numerous occasions. You resort to cheap insults when you run out of things to say.

These xoolo whine about Holy texts (which they misrepresent and quote out of context) but will excuse the actual pillaging, rape and looting when it is done in the name of whatever ideology that they support. Heck, this particular neef will support those acts if they are done in the name of his tribe.

Its your religion that teaches rape is sanctioned by "allah" and when Muslims wage war on people they can rape women prisoners of war because its suna ( practiced by Mohammed).

Whay get mad when people opposes such a backward religion that makes rape and slavery permissible ?

My religion does not teach rape, you filthy swine. Concubinage and slavery were universal practices back in those days, Islam merely regulated them and limited the avenues through which one could become a slave/concubine to just one (captive of war). It certainly was a better alternative than slaughtering conquered nations with no mercy which many other nations did.

As for our current times, then most scholars agree that these practices should not be revived.

The problem is not that you oppose my religion. It's that you resort to cheap insults and degrade people. If you wanted to have an honest debate, I would have welcomed it.

[X.Playa]

Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period." [The Quran verse is 4:24] [3]

Abu Dawud 11:2150

Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."

Sahih Bukhari 5:59:459

Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's Messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran 4:. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).

Sahih Muslim 8:3432

rape [reyp] noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
noun 1. the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.


weligaaba adigu caytan. This is pure rape , and its approved by your prophet and your "allah" , the rest of the world doesn't accept these backward ethics. rape is rape wether your allah and mohammed say its ok.

[PanSomaliNationalist]

Ugh a gaalo

[smooth]

Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period." [The Quran verse is 4:24] [3]

I don't know why you keep repeating this I have already answered you before and you failed to produce any counter argument, since your completely jaahil this response is to benefit the others.

The whole essence of marriage in Islam is the "transferal" of responsibility (guardianship) from the father to the husband, that's nikah in a nutshell, if the daughter goes hungry, it's the responsibility of the father because he is her guardian, when she is married the responsibility now falls on the Husband now he is the guardian, if she gets divorced its back to square one again, if the father is still alive otherwise it goes to the eldest brother.

In event of war when the Muslims are fighting, the full 'responsibility' (guardianship) of those women from the enemy combatant, falls on the Imam/Caliphate, they will be fully responsible of taking care just as a father is for his daughter, in fact the responsibility/Guardianship here is more grievous because the final words of our Prophets he singled out taking care of what your right hand possesses, referring to these women that are in limbo, the term slavery is never used.

I don't see what kind of point your trying to score here, you are happy to sleep with a women as long as she consents, were as the religious point of view is that the very act is sacred and consent alone is not enough but you have to take on the burden of responsibility as well from her guardian, you are so engrossed in kurf that you don't even see how morally repugnant your views you are, I can guarantee that you wouldn't allow your daughter to thread such a morally repulsive path.

In the version accepted by Theravada Buddhists, who are predominant in Southeast Asia, the Buddha was born Prince Siddhartha Gautama, the son of the ruler of the Sakya clan in the foothills of the Himalayas. Shortly after his birth, eight learned fortunetellers predicted that Siddhartha would become either a universal, world-conquering monarch or a fully enlightened Buddha. Distressed at the prospect that his son might not succeed him, Siddhartha's father surrounded him with material pleasures and possessions. At the age of 16 the prince married, and his father built him three splendid palaces, one for each season, where he was attended by servants and concubines and no less than 40,000 dancing girls. During the next 17 years, according to legendary accounts, Siddhartha was "wholly given over to pleasure."

[X.Playa]

Are you justifying rape and using the myth and the claim of your religion to justify a universal crime. I really do not much care about your perversion called Islam. Its rape and it's the worst type where your so called Saxaaba raped women in front of their husbands and your prophet encouraging the act.