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Musa26 wrote:somalia does not acknowledge somaliland as its equal. therefore it holds hostile intentions towards somaliland.

somaliland must not and can not work with somalia. infact somaliland should go out its way to sabotage the development of somalia

its a state of war as much as most people like to turn their eyes from it. just 2 days ago the federal government of somalia raped somaliland's territorial integrity by sending one of its officials to taleex and indoctrinating the local somalilanders there

we have yet to see a response from the corrupt kulmiye party to this invasion of our nation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtG09GOkMOs

Siciid85 wrote:

AwRastaale wrote:All Somalis need to work together at least in areas they can see things bit more clear.

Naturally our nomads work together better.

As you know there is an ongoing drought and our nomads are moving freely across the Somali Peninsula to find aome water and pasture.

My own camels are with Ogaden in south Wardheer even though the rain wasn't great there either.

My neighbors have crossed over to HG/Sacad regions near Muduf-Kilil borders.

Lots of people from Togdheer to Sanaag have made their way to Awdal.

All these are signs we are not as self hating as kids online may portray.

There is hope guys.

sahal80 wrote:

Futurist wrote:

burcaawi14 wrote:As if there's something to even consider working with in the south

Somaliland should lobby the Somali government in Mogadishu to locate the Somali Central Bank, Somali Aviation Authority and Somali Foreign Office in Hargeisa - with the explicit understanding that Somailland is not dropping its independence, but that it will provide greater support and legitimacy to the Somali Federal Government. Somaliland should also lobby foreign governments with an embassy on Mogadishu to open a consulate in Hargeisa to establish international diplomatic links.

lol whos crazy to give up the FM so you can get recognition but i dont mind the bank since qaldaans r good managers than good politicians. im sure there would have been money today

Futurist wrote:Sometimes you have to think outside the box to achieve what you want.

Somaliland needs to develop a dual-track approach in the next 25 years if it is to develop and get out of this economic rut. The dual track development policy needs to focus on leveraging greater economic and political power inside south Somalia, whilst continuing to pursue Somaliland recognition and development.

nearly agree with you on this. instead of moving the FM to there you may have indirect influence on who will fill the so called "dirta waqooyi positions". nowadays its not like when there was fozia who was eliminating the non isaaq notherners. the current FM is "northest" and he supports awdal and USP group being part ofthe negotiations as notherners. another case is how they banned the kenyan khat bc of SL....so think would have been much easier for you had you influence in there

i dont support institutional and political integration between north and south before any political settlement....we r much behind and you should continue BUT you need a reality check

while koonfur is busy with its clan-based federalism that could could affect you some day+instability you can bring new stuff to the negotiation table like a nothern self-governance exactly like zanzibar so we will have to governments. that means your not part of the federal govt/regions

once you sign this it will be an interonationally recognized treaty and also by the koonfur constitution, therefore, you have secured the former british somaliland borders

then think about the next stage of becoming an independent country like the iraqi kurdistan is doing now....this depends on the change of circumstances like the security, international and economical interests

instead of coming up each time with ictiraaf and final issues at each negotiations, come up with a pragmatic approach to get your share of developmental projects. bring to the table whats necessary for you like the berbera corridor, foreign scholarship via hargeysa-based consulates and missions

New deals SL speacial arrangements was based on this
http://www.somaliland-mission.com/index ... rrangement

lastly SL politicians/media should avoid involving in koonfur clan and anti-stability issues to create a cooperative atmosphere bc mogadishu is the gate for all this.

Futurist wrote:

burcaawi14 wrote:As if there's something to even consider working with in the south

This kind of highly emotional, irrational, illogical thinking keeps Somaliland behind. Do you not realise that millions of Somalilanders are suffering as a result? They're unable to trade with the rest of the world, unable to travel, unable to access education or healthcare internationally, unable to access international payment systems or credit facilities. Do you not care about their wellbeing or development? Do you even realise that you cannot make a payment internationally if you are a business owner in Somaliland? How do you expect them to trade?

Somaliland should lobby the Somali government in Mogadishu to locate the Somali Central Bank, Somali Aviation Authority and Somali Foreign Office in Hargeisa - with the explicit understanding that Somailland is not dropping its independence, but that it will provide greater support and legitimacy to the Somali Federal Government. Somaliland should also lobby foreign governments with an embassy on Mogadishu to open a consulate in Hargeisa to establish international diplomatic links.

Musa26 wrote:siciid

You and the other soft isaaqs have one thing in comman, You all booty shake for treacherous scum

i dont bitch i call it how i see it. their is no way this appeasement will pay off we have given them since the burco conference of the 90's to come to the table and contribute to qaranka

somalia is getting back on its feet and it will use all fifth column elements with in SL to destabilize us or strong arm us to come to the negotiating table and here we have landers crying for co-operation with somalia

you want developement and access to international institutions? then work towards the recognition program ! there is no substitute for it

burcaawi14 wrote:As if there's something to even consider working with in the south