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Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:21 pm
by smooth
LightAtNight wrote: Daroods need to stop playing the villains of Somalia, its becoming more apparent everyday who the bad guys are
Sxb There is no Hawiye/Darood cards to play, they are just rallying vehicles, not even the cones on the chess board, every tribal leader today realises this, the game has moved on from this

To illustrate this the reer dalal Marexaan and other groups in Caabudwaaq that are Pro Galmudug didn't buy P/land Darood propaganda trump card during the fights and fought their own wagardhac cousin's that are Pro P/land (mainly due to past grievances being driven out of Galinsoor by Sacad)

They came on TV lambasting Gaas and his flimsy attempt to Resurrect tribal issues, they even went as far as to say, they are the enemy of all Somali's, not just Darood, this was their nabadoon saying this, what Gaas wanted to happen didn't happen because those man know were their interests lies and will not be fooled by this tribal mantra that card is dead.

The Nabadoon continued his attacks days later stating never mind HAG there had been no fighting in Caabudwaaq since 90's and people live in peace and marry from each other, to the cheers of the population. Those wagardhac spoilers came from Kilika5 and were shipped there, propaganda video's were circulating not even filmed in Caabudwaaq about them being Anti Galmudug, which was being circulated on all P/land sites

The other illustration is Gaalkacayo, much of Lealkase did not partake in the battle, they were mostly sympathetic to Galmudug and many of them want to join, whenever you attack Darood as a tribe you give credence to P/land propaganda lies to rally everyone against you, the reality on the ground is very different and it's all interest based and not qabiil, only the losers pull out the Qabiil card, which no longer works, unless those on the ground become stupid enough to act different.

Those cards being plaid no different from the propaganda that Abgaal sent militia's, government troops and even the most absurd that the UN is arming Galmudug against P/land, they have tried to play every card even Al-shabab, and the fake Caabudwaaq uprising, I even seen them playing the battle as Sacad vs Lealkase, all of it didn't work, because the reality on the ground are different.

They want to change what had always been a economical competition for resources/wealth/influence and interest based alliances to the 80's Qabiil alliances, every time they foam "Yaa Darood" from their mouth, remind them who destroyed it, who continues to, what they did to Sool Sanaag (C/Yusuf signed them away to S/land), the biggest enemy of Darood are their elitist treacherous few leaders, they had to be forced to give more representation to minority groups for Aqalka hoose

Their immense greed, fitnah and treachery has made them self destruct, the 2/3 of Mudug and Hiirshabelle will be using Hobyo since the heavy lift sactor have arrived to unload heavy cargo's, a whole boat of Shidaal from a Xawaadle business man is due to dock soon, they have nothing left to play but the Qabiil card on their path to self inflicted suicide and poverty, don't give them a way out.

Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:45 pm
by SahanGalbeed
You are a joke , you prolly don't realize it but that's what you are

Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:08 pm
by sahal80
smooth wrote:
sahal80 wrote:
Hawadles new strategy is against harti abgaal bc it will strenthen their position in jowhar so they r teaming up with the outsider garguurte against their candidates.
The signs of a great chess player is not only how good they play one side against the other exploiting their natural fears, but forcing those that earlier opposed him (his abtiyaal's) to back him as a result of the fear he helped create and is now exploiting

It's a real master stroke that will go down in history, he was already 10 steps ahead fighting on multiple fronts with not much power nor cash at his disposal, fighting UAE spoilers in one corner, the corrupt odayaals on the other, and the entire international community that is against him and he still managed to get his people appointed.

I posted many times here that the man is a genius as corrupt as he is, I only learned of him from the devastating chess moves he made in Galmudug to appoint his henchman beating even the Turkish/EU candidate, he was playing all sides, before the whole thing even got off the ground and every other sub-clan was quarrelling and failure was inevitable he showed his true wadanimo playing on the people's fear when he paid a visit.

He told the entire room (mostly HG, Murursade, MX) that the Western interest along with Ethiopia/Kenya created Jubaland, Southwest and are funding P/land, he showed them their clandestine map's, just a single HAG state along with MX, Benadir excluded being the capital, at that time O.G were slaughtering MX in Jubaland, everybody stopped bickering after that long private speech and began to see the greater picture, HG sacrificed most seats as a result to ensure state forms, money was coming from everywhere to disrupt it's formation but it didn't work.

They threw everything at him, UAE leaked false story that HSM want's to build a port in Mareeg and cancel out Hobyo to get HG against him which was posted on several pro Galmudug websites that were paid off, a small DDOS attack it took to get them offline, mudug24 was one of them, they moved their hosting as a result, it never really hit off big as a result and the people were informed about the lies.

Currently in Mogadishu HSM group is spreading some of the most intense fear mongering that's getting people's blood boiling many of them true, addressed to all the clan's living there. I was told, he has a map of CC and Cumareey plan to take much of the Booli qaran neighbourhoods in Hodan, Wardhiigley, N4 and many more back using Amison

He didn't just stop there, he said Shariif is part of it and he is not sure whether he is willingly part of it, or whether he will get hoodwinked like he got hoodwinked with Sea fiasco and Garowe 1 and 2 accords or the Gaalkacayo Kacaan airport. He is presenting himself as the only hope against the hordes of traitors. Even that British UN dude wants to get rid of him.

He managed to ensure that the warlords will all get their Aqalka sare seats despite IC opposition, arguing that elections cannot happen if it's not the case and he is scared of some fictitious violence that may happen, I have been told he has managed to force this through using this fear card, Musa Suudi Yalaxow, Qeybdiid will all go through and this has been approved, both on his payroll.

The benefits of playing the warlord card is to spoil IC and ensure a final last line defence against the IC plan that has been leaked, I have been told by an insider that the IC backup plan (since they couldn't stop him appointing his own henchman) is to double the bribes at the last minute of the voting to get their man in (shariif), the warlord card he is playing will make everyone think twice betraying him, he has convinced them that he is the only one that will fighting for them (as he proved).

There is more tricks I can spend paragraphs typing, but if he manages to pull this off despite all the opposition, he will go down in history as the greatest president that fought off the entire world that was against him, so far he has been winning all his battles, Gaas is in his pocket and his greed was easily exploited, the former Bosaaso mayor turned freedom fighter is also being supported, all of these are pieces on a chess board that will become useful later.
ustaad smooth, there is some true in your statement but remember that hawadle r pro-unity and cooperation thats all they care about

Garguurte has been defeated since his buuloburde stuff and dj harti president(deputy finance minister) has failed. so who r the winners? i used to advise hawadle to declare hiiraan state before they declare it in jowhar...they were all the time reacting to create more unity so they said to me do you want us to end up like the situation of cayr? we r playing the game with them

now that they got what they wanted; a president and 18 mps the first thing they did was establishing their hegemony like the allied clans and allocating projects for hiiraan

now garguurte depends more on hawadle than abgaal in jowhar

general mukhtar is looking after the security in jowhar like gafow is looking after cadaado


this guy is the head of regional gudiga doorashada
https://mobile.twitter.com/SRSGKeating/ ... 9985858560

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0717388526


sanbalolshe whos in a secret mission for turkey is behind all this cali osoble stuff

hes responsible for dealing with the whole mps so it will be Turkey vs UAE and the money is ready!

personally im against garguurte and want him to go but clan wise they think all these gains could change if a harti abgaal president gets elected bc jowhar is their political home so it will reflect on the projects and clan relations

ali osoble has links with sanbalolshe and garguurte so imagin what could happen to him if sharif wins for example? thats why they r protecting these gains

so they r thinking on their interests not garguurte but i agree with you garguurte being good at dividing the clans and playing them against eachother for his own interests!

Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:13 pm
by smooth
SahanGalbeed wrote:You are a joke , you prolly don't realize it but that's what you are
They say the truth makes the dregs of society come out and makes the ignorant's howl, this geopolitical and internal dirt politics being played upon my country concerns me greatly because that's were I see myself in the very near future, this stuff is far beyond your comprehension, stick to your soap opera's and TV shows.

Soon your not going to have a choice anyway, your rights as a 4th class citizen in a infidel country will be taken away, and you will either serve as a slave or have your head spliced with a meat cleaver after your manhood is taken away from you, by the only people in this world that managed to wipe out entire nations/continents from the face of the earth.

Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:27 pm
by smooth
sahal80 wrote: personally im against garguurte and want him to go but clan wise they think all these gains could change if a harti abgaal president gets elected bc jowhar is their political home so it will reflect on the projects and clan relations
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Good insights sxb about the internal politics in Hiirshabelle from a Xawaadle perspective, all I knew was the high level stuff UAE Vs Turkey being played out there, with UAE bent on spoiling things.

Your statement proves he is a genius, you can believe all you want that he is dependent on you guys and there may be some truth in it, but the overall reality is, you need him more then he needs you!

This is purely based on risks, you risk your lucrative influence/projects crumbling for the foreseeable future if Harti candidate is elected, with unlikely to be much progress which would likely result in beef and the fall of the whole thing and back to status quo

If Cumareey is elected you will loose everything, and the only way he would be elected is on the back of Harti vote, you best believe you will loose out big, we all do by the way, the only risk to HSM is that he looses, but he has several millions, will retire somewhere lavishly and laugh all the way to the bank, his risks are negligible.

Sometimes you hate something but it's good for you, I believe he has been sent for just these reasons, it takes a corrupt person to take out other corrupt people that are also traitors on top of it and do nothing for the people, a good clean guy cannot do such a job, he wouldn't know were to start, you got to know the game, and the only way that is possible is if you have been playing it before.

Give me updates on the Hiirshabelle position on Hobyo port, I know there is a big shidaal boat on it's way to Hobyo for a Xawaadle business man.

Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:59 pm
by original dervish
If all these Hawiya politicians are as brilliant and masterful as you claim.....why can't they build one single functioning institution despite receiving millions of Dollars over the last 4 years? :)

Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:10 pm
by sahal80
smooth wrote:
sahal80 wrote: personally im against garguurte and want him to go but clan wise they think all these gains could change if a harti abgaal president gets elected bc jowhar is their political home so it will reflect on the projects and clan relations
!

Good insights sxb about the internal politics in Hiirshabelle from a Xawaadle perspective, all I knew was the high level stuff UAE Vs Turkey being played out there, with UAE bent on spoiling things.

Your statement proves he is a genius, you can believe all you want that he is dependent on you guys and there may be some truth in it, but the overall reality is, you need him more then he needs you!

This is purely based on risks, you risk your lucrative influence/projects crumbling for the foreseeable future if Harti candidate is elected, with unlikely to be much progress which would likely result in beef and the fall of the whole thing and back to status quo

If Cumareey is elected you will loose everything, and the only way he would be elected is on the back of Harti vote, you best believe you will loose out big, we all do by the way, the only risk to HSM is that he looses, but he has several millions, will retire somewhere lavishly and laugh all the way to the bank, his risks are negligible.

Sometimes you hate something but it's good for you, I believe he has been sent for just these reasons, it takes a corrupt person to take out other corrupt people that are also traitors on top of it and do nothing for the people, a good clean guy cannot do such a job, he wouldn't know were to start, you got to know the game, and the only way that is possible is if you have been playing it before.

Give me updates on the Hiirshabelle position on Hobyo port, I know there is a big shidaal boat on it's way to Hobyo for a Xawaadle business man.
:up: totally agree. CCC is anti-abgaal camp. he wants a sacad pm probably reer kulane. it was him who picked ina caynte so he asked him to secure an mp seat but bc of HIPS the guy avoids corruption but secretly campaigns for him in the ala sheekh wing of murursade against farmaajo

i believe only a HAG candidate can defeat garguurte, closest dbkock is farmaajo bc they will vote eachother if one camp loses it in the second or third round

UAE camp is more helping garguurte bc JL and PL should have backed the opposition groups but by suggesting guys like CCC who r part of the current system its useless attempt

that why faroole who is not official was onto sh sharif bc it will give chance to the more HAGist garguurte

so was saying let us support other abgaals and get stronger pm


yes we have no other choice but hobyo port. businnessmen r concentrating on it. give it until the next year we may got some chinese company.

Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:35 pm
by sahal80
original dervish wrote:If all these Hawiya politicians are as brilliant and masterful as you claim.....why can't they build one single functioning institution despite receiving millions of Dollars over the last 4 years? :)
they can do but they r corrupt thinking only themselves. that why we need a leadership

what smooth is talking about is how he uses all against eachother starting from JL but i think there r people with him the dj network who uses many colours

if this much hated guy gets reelected then think about this.

some thing you cant believe is this. he was ally with gaas and madoobe in madasha against the parliament

since they became ally with the UAE hes been using jawaari!

if you check the UN envoy accountyou will see him receiving them

i posted the jawaari paper in my first post

this gaas complaining about it. its not his businessbc they r reer waqooyi but he means the role of madasha kkk

pl kulahaa waqooyi 11 mp upper house 3 shoud be allocated forsool sanaag kkk

what about pls 11 mps upper house mps? i


https://horseedmedia.net/2016/11/14/pun ... y-jawaari/

Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:45 pm
by Geeljire252
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Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:48 pm
by Geeljire252
Smooth keep exposing these crooks :up:

Re: UAE War on Galmudug Hiiraan & Benadir

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:49 am
by GalliumerianSlayer
Geeljire252 wrote:Smooth keep exposing these crooks :up:
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