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Re: Do Somalis have any food etiquette? Or social etiquette?

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X.Playa wrote:I have lately moved to the center of a Somali ghetto, I am close to 5 somali restaurants. So maybe once a week I eat out in them.

xplaya lives in Dixon :damn:

I have noticed Somalis have zero food etiquette, it's a public restaurant and yet you would see 4 eating from one large plate with hands some sticking their fore fingers in mouth to push the food the others use the Asian habit of first making small ball of rice before pushing it in the mouth using the thumb. Total chaos.

Another strange thing is when somalis in restaurant eat the meat from the bones instead of keeping the bones in his plate they liter the table with bones each on discarding his heap of bones on the table. Once they leave the next customer and the poor waiter are put into difficult position one is cleanin the embarrassment and the other is sitting in a table full of bones.

One time as I was enjoying the pre meal soup, I was watching a savage with his litter of kids eating. Two kids are sharing one plate and him is eating from one . The entire family is using hands, he is eating using one hand and in the other hand he is talking on the phone yaking mouth wide open rice flying , kids also are eating like their father mouth wide open and struggling to out mouth the other ( boob). As he was talking he also was throwing piece of meat from his plate to the kids plate while all on the phone. When most people way they never ever talk on the phone it's part of enjoying your foods.

After watching these hyena family they left and I noticed the savages left one to go meal on the table, obviously the to go meal probably was for the wife or mother of the kids. I went outsid saw the beast still on the phone yaking while his kids are trying to get in the car. I asked him did you guys ordered a to go and left it behind, still on the phone he shouted to one of his cups and told him to run and grabb it. He never even say thanks he continued yaking on the phone like a bored woman no food or social etiquette at all .

I have to use the train or city bus
sometimes I as a personnel rule and long years of a habit if my phone rings I pick it up and make it as short as possible and in quite voice, if itsnt important I don't even pick it, I don't want to invade the personell space of other riders answering a call that begins with " haye maxaa isku dhacaya". Somalis will yak loud and meaningless on the phone on public transportation annoying everybody. They will board the bus on phone on talking and continue talking the entire trip and still disembark yaking. I don't know if it's the same in the US and Europe here somali women have discovered another use for the xijaab other then hiding a bad hair day they now use it to hold their huge smart phones hand free they insert the phone on one side of the xijaab and yak for hours while walking on the street a bizzare new habit.

Talking loud, why do Somalis talk loud? This question is called " waa suaal d'a weyno oo madxaa daalinaysee" . Through long day dreaming at last I solve the mystery and this is my theory. Somalis are nomads and nomads use the shade of a tree to talk or discuess things now imagine sitting with five nomads in a windy outside environment you have to talk loud to be heared over the wind and open air. Thousands of years of assembly under the tree have given the Somalis this loud voice. Another thing is the somali female voice. It's unique it was first noticed by Richard Burton in 1853 he noted that somali women have a plaintive voice. Plaintive voice means they always by nature sound like they are complaining about something. Listen to two somali women " naa cabarooy " in plaintive call the other answers " heeeee cibaado " this loud plaintive voice evolved after thousands of years of nagging their men folk. Either way they are no less louder then their men albeit with a plaintive nagging voice.

Now how can we change these magaalo joog xumo?
Waryahee when did you get done for DUI :deadrose:

Unfortunately I do that when I have to search for something in my bag or using the cash point :up:
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Do what? No DUI, just having a car becomes too expensive and useless now days.
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Re: Do Somalis have any food etiquette? Or social etiquette?

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X.Playa wrote:DUI? Do what?
Driving under the influence of that goose beer you drink get get smart with me awoowo
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Also people with cars have to take the train. Traffic jams and lack of parking lots forced most city people to take the public transportation.
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Re: Do Somalis have any food etiquette? Or social etiquette?

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If the restaurant uu luuq ku yaalo then it's ok.

If it's on a high street but the windows are tinted/covered, its ok.

but if people on the street and on buses can see and you eat like a hungry savage, then it's a nono.

Ps...you forgot somali ( mothers mainly) talking loud and speaking english to Their kids. Af soomali maxa u diiday?
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If you want to eat using hands stay and eat at home. It's a no no in public restaurants. Most Somali restaurants are also visited by none Somalis.

A year ago I was eating in this somali restaurant and two white couple were eating on the table next to me. Then all of a sudden I heard a loud sneeze somali type coming from the kitchen that startled all of us. I said I hope that isn't the cook, they almost choked on their food laughing.

Even the way Somalis sneeze is loud and disturbing.
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Maybe I used the term "restaurant" loosely. I mean maqaaxi. Not all Somali maqaaxi/restaurant are visited by foreigners. So I was talking about places only frequented by somalis.

You have to admit it thou, there are times where you just want to dig in with your hand.
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The answer to that question is YES and NO I noticed it's a regional thing....but it's usually the dirty Somalis from Ethiopian regions and Kenya that are filthy. These creatures usually look and walk like a Somali. In truth, its hard to differentiate between these varmints born in Garrisa, Mandera, Dhagaxbuur from one born in Xamar, Hargeisa, Barawa and Borama just by appearance. One dead give away that exposes these clones is their lack of etiquette.

Someone mentioned the reason Somalis have a lack of etiquette is because they are from the bush. I would have to disagree with that sentiment. People from rural Somalia have a defense mechanism. That make them want to conform with social norms around them for better or worse. So they don't stand out. It's true they might lack etiquette but there is a quick assimilation with this group. Unlike the part time Somalis from Kenyan and Ethiopian a small minority that make themselves visible with their vile and loud behavior around the world. Their Somali cards need to be revoked and these barbarians need to stop claiming Somali.
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Who are the Somalis who eat and talk the way you described? Everyone in this forum seems disgusted and embarrassed of Somali speakers attitudes in diaspora. If you, me and the rest of your family members don’t behave like that who are the “ Somalis “ you are talking about?

I have noticed that those who couldn’t achieve anything in their new host countries tend to blame their society for their failure. While intelligent/successful Somali speakers use failure to their advantage, less advantaged – notice how I use less advantaged instead of “Somalis” – use failure to curse their parents’ background. The mentality of the less advantaged Somali speakers in the West is mixture of victim mentality and entitlement mentality. But unlike Blacks who believe they are victims of White supremacy, less advantaged Somali speakers believe they are victims of their background backwardness. Somali speakers lived and worked in places where no Negroid race, Muslims or Arabic speakers ever set a foot in. Despite them being exposed to Western culture (or should I say cultural appropriation or cultural imperialism) and values (mixture of hypocrite and ignoramus) peak period in 19th century, Somalis by the accounts of their white employers were superior in culture and intelligence, highly organized, effective managers and well matched in terms of hauteur with the Europeans.

Former nomads who immigrated to the West should not be blamed for the negative images of Somalis. The blame should be on those who were born or educated there but didn’t bother to rebuild/repair Somali-speakers’ global reputation. The likes of you " Snet members", are the one who should be embarrassed by.
X.Playa wrote:I have lately moved to the center of a Somali ghetto, I am close to 5 somali restaurants. So maybe once a week I eat out in them.

I have noticed Somalis have zero food etiquette,
Back to the OD question, do Somalis have any food/social etiquette?

You were not going to take so long to notice it if Somalis really have zero food etiquette unless you were adopted by Non-Somalis family or your family have food etiquette, unlike Somali-Canadians in your ghetto. I can't speak on behalf of all Somali speakers, but I have been taught how to use fork and spoon at a very young age. We don't share plates nor we eat with our hands at home or outside. Same goes to almost everyone I know in Djibouti. I have been rebuked many times by Khaleejis, Southern Asians and Southeast Asians for eating rice with spoon. If it is OK to eat sandwiches, burgers and pizzas with hands why not rice?

For your information, Sir Richard Burton found Somali girls' voices charming.
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For your information, Sir Richard Burton found Somali girls' voices charming.
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Greetings Mujaahidas and Mujaahids,

I think the lack of etiquette is rather a problem of people who came to the west through Kenya ie went through the hell of refugee centers in Kenya.
When I first visited the blessed city of Minneapolis , home to the best single mama of the world, friends took me to a maqaaxi;
I was at the beginning of my single mama hunting carrier...and was under the charm of the place ...although the surrounding area looked poor and ugly. The whole place looked like a refugee center transplanted to Minneapolis.
The maqaaxi was full of few somalis and group of oromos ...many eating spaghetti by hand wih gusto and making all kind of of noises... noises that at times came from rather different orifice than the mouth or nose. The waiter was a very tall malrnourished angry man without age ...who somehow managed to escape from the local marfish for reasons only known to him.

I ordered some rice with xaniid...I have to confess it was delicious and surprisingly clean and fresh...
The rest is history...few days later I ate only home made meals and my enterprise of single mama hunting skyrocketed and I started my long journey toward fame and glory among single mamas everywhere on the planet.

B.

PS lo and behold ! I am only catering oromo women so the gardian of the temple of somali womens honor pass your road no reason to atack me :-)
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This is 100% true, Somalis are literally animalistic When it comes to food, stuff like that. I was forced to share a big plate with some somalis aka "Sport" and one had the audacity to 'grab piece of hilib with His bare hands and throw it on 'my' side :o

I was like Man WTF!!!!




Very rare I'm in the situation but if I ever go to Somali restaurants now I don't even mess around I don't care who I'm with, how big My party is, or whatever. I get My own Sahan, You get Your Sahan period. If You wanna call Me "Duuni" cuz I don't wanna share My food or if You feel like having a "Feder-raation" and 50 million things on Your plate then You're welcome to buy the whole damn menu go right ahead but just leave Me be. Balaayo uncivilized kula ahaate :lost:
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Djiboutian wrote:Who are the Somalis who eat and talk the way you described? Everyone in this forum seems disgusted and embarrassed of Somali speakers attitudes in diaspora. If you, me and the rest of your family members don’t behave like that who are the “ Somalis “ you are talking about?

I have noticed that those who couldn’t achieve anything in their new host countries tend to blame their society for their failure. While intelligent/successful Somali speakers use failure to their advantage, less advantaged – notice how I use less advantaged instead of “Somalis” – use failure to curse their parents’ background. The mentality of the less advantaged Somali speakers in the West is mixture of victim mentality and entitlement mentality. But unlike Blacks who believe they are victims of White supremacy, less advantaged Somali speakers believe they are victims of their background backwardness. Somali speakers lived and worked in places where no Negroid race, Muslims or Arabic speakers ever set a foot in. Despite them being exposed to Western culture (or should I say cultural appropriation or cultural imperialism) and values (mixture of hypocrite and ignoramus) peak period in 19th century, Somalis by the accounts of their white employers were superior in culture and intelligence, highly organized, effective managers and well matched in terms of hauteur with the Europeans.

Former nomads who immigrated to the West should not be blamed for the negative images of Somalis. The blame should be on those who were born or educated there but didn’t bother to rebuild/repair Somali-speakers’ global reputation. The likes of you " Snet members", are the one who should be embarrassed by.
X.Playa wrote:I have lately moved to the center of a Somali ghetto, I am close to 5 somali restaurants. So maybe once a week I eat out in them.

I have noticed Somalis have zero food etiquette,
Back to the OD question, do Somalis have any food/social etiquette?

You were not going to take so long to notice it if Somalis really have zero food etiquette unless you were adopted by Non-Somalis family or your family have food etiquette, unlike Somali-Canadians in your ghetto. I can't speak on behalf of all Somali speakers, but I have been taught how to use fork and spoon at a very young age. We don't share plates nor we eat with our hands at home or outside. Same goes to almost everyone I know in Djibouti. I have been rebuked many times by Khaleejis, Southern Asians and Southeast Asians for eating rice with spoon. If it is OK to eat sandwiches, burgers and pizzas with hands why not rice?

For your information, Sir Richard Burton found Somali girls' voices charming.
Thanks. Your post is a refreshingly rational argument. There is a tendency it seems, for those Somalis you've mentioned to blame their heritage for any personal failures whilst in the West or elsewhere. They shy away from Somali. Judging themselves as lesser than others. It's a loser's mentality. The most successful Somalis I know, have a strong sense of identity. They know who they are, and what they can achieve. They embrace their heritage and take on the world. I use forks and knives, however I was once at this popular mid-priced restaurant. It was busy so I sat next to 2 Cadaans. My dish came as a couple flat breads and some curry. What did I do? I ate it as it should be eaten, with my God-given hands!. It was delicious, and of course I didn't care what the cadaan were thinking, this was already an "ethnic" food environment. I wish Somalis would stop worrying what ajanibs think. If they are racist because you're "too loud" etc, they were already racist to begin with. :lol:
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bareento wrote:Greetings Mujaahidas and Mujaahids,

I think the lack of etiquette is rather a problem of people who came to the west through Kenya ie went through the hell of refugee centers in Kenya.
When I first visited the blessed city of Minneapolis , home to the best single mama of the world, friends took me to a maqaaxi;
I was at the beginning of my single mama hunting carrier...and was under the charm of the place ...although the surrounding area looked poor and ugly. The whole place looked like a refugee center transplanted to Minneapolis.
The maqaaxi was full of few somalis and group of oromos ...many eating spaghetti by hand wih gusto and making all kind of of noises... noises that at times came from rather different orifice than the mouth or nose. The waiter was a very tall malrnourished angry man without age ...who somehow managed to escape from the local marfish for reasons only known to him.

I ordered some rice with xaniid...I have to confess it was delicious and surprisingly clean and fresh...
The rest is history...few days later I ate only home made meals and my enterprise of single mama hunting skyrocketed and I started my long journey toward fame and glory among single mamas everywhere on the planet.

B.

PS lo and behold ! I am only catering oromo women so the gardian of the temple of somali womens honor pass your road no reason to atack me :-)

Thank you for being so witty.I havent laughed this good for a while. :lol: :up:
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