Are Oromo the greatest African conquerors?

[AwRastaale]

If Hawiye is Oromo then all Somalis are Oromo.

Hawiye, Isaaq and the Dir belong to the Irir Samaale family and Samaale is the founder of Somali race...Darood also belongs to Samaale but Rahawein does not. That's why not only does Rahanwein have bi-cultural and bi-linguistic of Oromo and Somalis but they were conquered and converted by the Samaale Somalis.

Somalis are divided into two main clusters; Saab and Samaale. All none pure Somalis including disowned minorities were thrown in the Saab category.

Now let me ask you between these two songs, which one do you understand the most?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcelkuR8Z9Q

VS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAaVanByIbo

[hoa]

I dunno much about their history, but they do have some really beautiful women. They are little on the dark skin side, but they have that exotic look about them.

We are dark too .

[GalliumerianSlayer]

They're landlocked.

[Develop]

What about the Shiekhal , Hawiye and some Darod who are Oromized and in Oromia. Gurgura are Somali in origin but Oromized too.

The Gurgura, Gorgorah or Gurgure (Somali: Gurgura, Arabic: غرغرة‎‎) people are a Somali clan that is part of the large Dir clan. They inhabit large portions of the Oromia Region (Zone 4) of Ethiopia, also the Somali Region and Afar Region of that country.

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Uggas Buhe Gedid (Somali: Ugaas Buux). The historical ughaz (sultan) of the Gurgura clan of Somalis. One of the most notable figures of Dire Dawa.
The Gurgura are of the Madahwein Dir, making them directly related to the Gurre and Gariire and other Madahwein Dirs.[1] They also have lineal ties with the Issa, Gadabursi, Biimaal, Bajimal, Quranyow-Garre, Surre, Madigan, Bursuuk and other Dir subclans.[1][2]

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Oromo political organizations sought to coerce the Gurgura, (who's identity was very contentious for the city of Dire Dawa) who largely speak the Oromo language (Oromiffa), to identify themselves as Oromo, though they belong to the Dir clan family of the Somalis. Oromo political organizations claimed that "the Gurgura people who speak Oromiffa belong to the Oromo nation and they only started to identify themselves with the Somali after the 1974 change of the Haile Selassie regime".[3] This is false since the Gurgura are mentioned in the Futuh Al Habasha : Conquest of Abyssinia as source dating back as far as the 16th century, by author: Shihabudin Ahmad bin Abd al-Qadir 'Arab Faqih or 'Arab Faqih. It is recorded that the Gurgura were Somalis who fought along side Ahmed Gran or Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi with knights, spear-men and foot-soldiers and their leader Garād 'Abd.[4]

Many prominent Gurgura in Dire Dawa, including traditional leaders, have identified as Somali, to the dislike of the Oromo. [5]

[Xaldoon]

If Hawiye is Oromo then all Somalis are Oromo.

Hawiye, Isaaq and the Dir belong to the Irir Samaale family and Samaale is the founder of Somali race...Darood also belongs to Samaale but Rahawein does not. That's why not only does Rahanwein have bi-cultural and bi-linguistic of Oromo and Somalis but they were conquered and converted by the Samaale Somalis.

Somalis are divided into two main clusters; Saab and Samaale. All none pure Somalis including disowned minorities were thrown in the Saab category.

Just to correct you Isaaq is a subclan of Dir and yes as you have mentioned they all belong to Irir Samaale.

[Xaldoon]

Hiil Samaale raximuhullah gave birth to 9 sons:

Irir Samaale (Hawiye and Dir)
Gardheere Samaale (Garre, Gaaljecel, Degodia and Awrmale)
Mayle Samaale (Xawaadle)
Maqarre Samaale (Ajuuraan, Dabarre and Irrole)
Yahabuur Samaale (Hubeer)

Gariife Samaale (deceased)
Xammare Samaale (deceased
Xariire Samaale (deceased)
Karur Samaale (deceased)

The dynamics are complicated as today for example Xawaadle (Mayle), Gaaljecel (Gardheere) and Degodia (Gardheere) have allied themselves with Hawiye (Irir) whilst the Irole and Dabarre (Maqarre) and some aections of the Garre (Gardheere) have allied themselves with the Digil Raxaanweyne (Saab) confederacy also the Awrmaale (Gardheere) have been assimilated within the Harti Daarood.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Hiil Samaale raximuhullah gave birth to 9 sons:

Irir Samaale (Hawiye and Dir)
Gardheere Samaale (Garre, Gaaljecel, Degodia and Awrmale)
Mayle Samaale (Xawaadle)
Maqarre Samaale (Ajuuraan, Dabarre and Irrole)
Yahabuur Samaale (Hubeer)

Gariife Samaale (deceased)
Xammare Samaale (deceased
Xariire Samaale (deceased)
Karur Samaale (deceased)

The dynamics are complicated as today for example Xawaadle (Mayle), Gaaljecel (Gardheere) and Degodia (Gardheere) have allied themselves with Hawiye (Irir) whilst the Irole and Dabarre (Maqarre) and some aections of the Garre (Gardheere) have allied themselves with the Digil Raxaanweyne (Saab) confederacy also the Awrmaale (Gardheere) have been assimilated within the Harti Daarood.

What about Sheekhaal? I don't believe they are ashraaf for a second. And who do the Darood fall under?

[Aliyyi Oromada]

If a singular ethnic group with one language, custom and faith were the measuring stick, hands down, Somalis have the largest land mass of any African ethnic group, north and south.

Oromos are lucky that we are historically a pastoralist society. If Somalis were agriculturalists, we would have invaded the highlands, and stayed for good. Killed off all the men and took the women as war brides.

Who can say no to these beauties?








An open letter to Wacchi Oromite:

These women in exchange for a couple of rusted AK-47s, deal? .

Might as well bring back our lost Dir people back to the fold.

Oromos were nomadic herders at the time of the conquest. We later absorbed the highland nations and adopted agriculture. Read history.

[MayDay777]

Yeah Oromos were great warriors but Oromo took a lot of highlands from us. Atleast we completely eradicated them from Jubbaland and NFD. Tit for tat is a fair game.

However the Bantus are no doubt the greatest conquerors in Africa. Fokers moved from West Africa and spread the whole continent

[Xaldoon]

If rivers and lakes measure the greatness of an ethnic conquest, then we have to say Oromo can indeed fit into that. Just look at how many rivers and lakes are born in the lands their conquered with an iron fist.

I know historically they were blood thirsty warriors but somehow in the last 100 years they became little cats.



Apart from Abay river or the Blue Nile, all the others take their water from the lands of Oromo.

I am personally big fan of Arsooma



Nagaati.

[Xaldoon]

If rivers and lakes measure the greatness of an ethnic conquest, then we have to say Oromo can indeed fit into that. Just look at how many rivers and lakes are born in the lands their conquered with an iron fist.

I know historically they were blood thirsty warriors but somehow in the last 100 years they became little cats.



Apart from Abay river or the Blue Nile, all the others take their water from the lands of Oromo.

I am personally big fan of Arsooma

Nagaati.

[Xaldoon]

If rivers and lakes measure the greatness of an ethnic conquest, then we have to say Oromo can indeed fit into that. Just look at how many rivers and lakes are born in the lands their conquered with an iron fist.

I know historically they were blood thirsty warriors but somehow in the last 100 years they became little cats.



Apart from Abay river or the Blue Nile, all the others take their water from the lands of Oromo.

I am personally big fan of Arsooma



Nagaati.

[Xaldoon]

If rivers and lakes measure the greatness of an ethnic conquest, then we have to say Oromo can indeed fit into that. Just look at how many rivers and lakes are born in the lands their conquered with an iron fist.

I know historically they were blood thirsty warriors but somehow in the last 100 years they became little cats.



Apart from Abay river or the Blue Nile, all the others take their water from the lands of Oromo.

I am personally big fan of Arsooma



Nagaati.

[Xaldoon]

this forum is full of bugs

[AwRastaale]

Not sure what you said.