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Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:01 am
by PanSomaliNationalist
mahoka wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:24 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:06 pm
siad barre was bad, but what came after his governments collapse was and is worse......
in his time, ethiopia would not dare invade, today, ethiopia operates in over 60 percent of somali territories....
the difference is clear to see
Darod pretending to be an Oromo kkkk desperate times call for desperate measures
Don't talk trash or I'll bomb you back to 1988

Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:25 am
by mahoka
PanSomaliNationalist wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:01 am
mahoka wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:24 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:06 pm
siad barre was bad, but what came after his governments collapse was and is worse......
in his time, ethiopia would not dare invade, today, ethiopia operates in over 60 percent of somali territories....
the difference is clear to see
Darod pretending to be an Oromo kkkk desperate times call for desperate measures
Don't talk trash or I'll bomb you back to 1988
Come and free your dhulo brothers first Ina ayan hirsi
Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:45 pm
by luis1
ETHIOPIAN AIRPOWER:
FROM INCEPTION TO VICTORY IN THE OGADEN WAR
By
SCOTT A. SCHAEFER
http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UFE0045070
So why did Ethiopia win the Ogaden War?
The previously mentioned factors of population size, Somali’s
limited supply of war materials, and the eventual Soviet involvement were certainly all
contributory factors. However, as demonstrated in this article, the Ethiopian Air Force
was indispensible to the success of Ethiopia in defending her territories.
The same argument can be made about Soviet and Cuban involvement. The
massive influx of weapons and personnel turned the war from defensive to offensive.
But once again, we must remember that this assistance did not occur in significant
amounts until November 1977, well past the successful defense of Dire Dawa and the
halting of Somali troops just beyond the Marda Pass. Soviet weapons and Cuban
personnel greatly assisted the Ethiopians in driving the invading forces back to Somalia,
but they did not halt their forward progress in August and September. This was
accomplished by the Ethiopians themselves, particularly the Ethiopian Air Force
Finally, the fact that Somalia was only sufficiently provisioned for a war of short
duration, approximately six months, is assumed to be true. This situation was further
complicated by the expulsion of Soviet advisors and Cuban troops by the Somalis in
November. Somalia was therefore committed to fighting a protracted conflict, reliant on
both speed and surprise. Their advance, however, was slowed considerably by the
constant bombardment and harassment by the Ethiopian fighters. Additionally, as the
Somalis became more overextended, the persistent attacks against the Somali lines of
communication and supply reduced their fighting capabilities on the fronts. By slowing
down the Somali advance and weakening their resupply, the Ethiopians could bide their
time. The longer the war progressed, the greater chance Ethiopia had for victory
Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:15 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
mahoka wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:25 am
PanSomaliNationalist wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:01 am
mahoka wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:24 pm
Darod pretending to be an Oromo kkkk desperate times call for desperate measures
Don't talk trash or I'll bomb you back to 1988
Come and free your dhulo brothers first Ina ayan hirsi
Come visit me at taleh and we'll talk

Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:11 pm
by X.Playa
Taleh is in SL hand, what makes you think you are superman in Taleex?
Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:11 am
by Musa26
Dhulbahantking wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:20 pm
SIAD BARRE WAS A GREAT MAN U STUPID PEOPLE U THINK ETHIOPIA WOULD ROAM OUR LANDS LIKE THEY OWN IT IF HE WAS PRESIDENT. YES MANY OF HIS DECISIONS WERENT RIGHT BUT TELL ME ONE POLITICIAN WHO HAD AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE SOMALIA REACH ITS PAST HEIGHTS.
WE WERE THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA U HAWIYE IDIOTS WHAT DID AIDEED DO UNTIL HE GOT MASSACRED BY THE MJS? HAWIYE CANT LEAD THIS COUNTRY A DAROOD CAN.PERIOD
what are you saying ? that the ends justify the means? because somalia is in chaos now then siyad barre must of been one of the good guys

Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:07 pm
by Siciid85
PanSomaliNationalist wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:01 am
mahoka wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:24 pm
Waachis wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:06 pm
siad barre was bad, but what came after his governments collapse was and is worse......
in his time, ethiopia would not dare invade, today, ethiopia operates in over 60 percent of somali territories....
the difference is clear to see
Darod pretending to be an Oromo kkkk desperate times call for desperate measures
Don't talk trash or I'll bomb you back to 1988
Lol kid you got jokes
Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:52 pm
by Waachis
Musa26 wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:11 am
Dhulbahantking wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:20 pm
SIAD BARRE WAS A GREAT MAN U STUPID PEOPLE U THINK ETHIOPIA WOULD ROAM OUR LANDS LIKE THEY OWN IT IF HE WAS PRESIDENT. YES MANY OF HIS DECISIONS WERENT RIGHT BUT TELL ME ONE POLITICIAN WHO HAD AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE SOMALIA REACH ITS PAST HEIGHTS.
WE WERE THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA U HAWIYE IDIOTS WHAT DID AIDEED DO UNTIL HE GOT MASSACRED BY THE MJS? HAWIYE CANT LEAD THIS COUNTRY A DAROOD CAN.PERIOD
what are you saying ? that the ends justify the means? because somalia is in chaos now then siyad barre must of been one of the good guys
It's a matter of the lesser evil:
what is the lesser evil:
a strict yet efficient somali dictator:
or ethiopia ruling you forever
Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:18 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
X.Playa wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:11 pm
Taleh is in SL hand, what makes you think you are superman in Taleex?

Sorry didn't know somaliland changed their flag to look exactly like the puntland one. The blue and white flag rises over taleh now get over it Faggot
Re: Did Siad Barre betray somali army in 1977 war?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:21 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
Musa26 wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:11 am
Dhulbahantking wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:20 pm
SIAD BARRE WAS A GREAT MAN U STUPID PEOPLE U THINK ETHIOPIA WOULD ROAM OUR LANDS LIKE THEY OWN IT IF HE WAS PRESIDENT. YES MANY OF HIS DECISIONS WERENT RIGHT BUT TELL ME ONE POLITICIAN WHO HAD AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE SOMALIA REACH ITS PAST HEIGHTS.
WE WERE THE STRONGEST MILITARY IN AFRICA U HAWIYE IDIOTS WHAT DID AIDEED DO UNTIL HE GOT MASSACRED BY THE MJS? HAWIYE CANT LEAD THIS COUNTRY A DAROOD CAN.PERIOD
what are you saying ? that the ends justify the means? because somalia is in chaos now then siyad barre must of been one of the good guys
Siad Barre wanted the somali people to be successful and that's an undeniable fact. Nationalism is what brought Somalia out of the dark days and it's what will bring us out of them once again wether you like it or not
CIA declassified documents about Ogaden War
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:46 pm
by luis1
ETHIOPIA-SOMALIA: CONTINUING MILITARY IMBALANCE IN THE OGADEN
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom ... 0003-4.pdf
CIA has declassified a lot of documents about Ogaden War.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/home