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TeeriReturns wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:16 pm
HashIII wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:13 am
TeeriReturns wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:32 am

Loool, I know Bicids are minority neighbors of Wardeer who live with Makahil/Maqaabul Ogadens, Just because I am Reer Waamo OG (Kismayo) don't mean I dont know about Ogadeniya my ancestors left 8 generations ago, we know bicidyans very well but then again i had no idea they also live in mudug/galkaciyo, i assumed its only sacads and omar mohamuds who live there, horta has the war stopped in that city or still ragging? sadly i have become allergic to reading somali BS news websites :up:
Wardheer and Gaalkacyo are the boundaries of our land, and consequently there are large populations in both. I have only had the pleasure of visiting puntland, I am yet to visit k5. There isn't really much you can learn about the place online, there are very little resources, I haven't been able to find much really. Neither do I know much about OG sub clans. I hoping to learn more when I visit, ideally in the next 2 years.

In Gaalkacyo Reer Bicidyahans make up most of the army, we had a lot of casualties in the last skirmishes. We hold the title of being the warriors of Majerteen. Even the name Gaalkacyo comes from the name Gaalaeri (largest sub clan of bicidyahan). We have a large presence there.

The Somali media is truly cancerous. There is very little fact checking, and rumours are just plastered all over these news websites. Lol, I remember when some guy in Mogdishu spoke to BBC Somali (i think it was them) and pretended to be some PSF commander lmao. The skirmshes ended a while back but I am not sure of the climate back in Gaalkacyo.

So your from Jubbaland? What can you tell me about General Darwiish and his militia that he has? Do you have any idea how many Reer Bicidyahans live in Kismaayo, i know some of us live there?

Why are you offended I claimed wardheer? We do live there in large numbers. Even the abtirsi.com site says so, even though it is rather blogish. It is well known. I hope I haven't offended you. I hope you can answer my questions.

I am not offended, the MJs tried taking advantage during our war with Ethiopia in 2006-2011, uoi lot share 1 degaan with us out of 6 degaans Makahiil Ogaden lives in but MJs would go to the Ethiopians and say all the degaan governors and MPs were ONLF, as a result they became the leaders of all 6 degaans, this is like making a hawiye the governors of kismayo, afmadow, etc.

When Cabdi Iley came and we were brokering for peace, we arrested all the MJ governors who painted the former OG governors as ONLF and we kicked them and deported most of their people out to puntland and specially galkaciyo and these former governos bloked putland trade into DDSI, now who suffered? us or you lot? in the long run it was you becasie we live in 84 degaasn out of 92 degaasn in DDSI, i wish you ot had nort delacred war on us at our weakest point against the enemy you took advanagte, dont even get me started on faroole arresting 6 OG born in Put with majeerteen wifes and others as ONLF, thankfully Cabdi Iley released them immediately but we will never forget what your people have done to us during our war against the Ethiopians, do you know why we enjoy killing idoors regularly? the Liyu police are former ONLF bent on revenge and I feel sorry for the idoors as Ogadens has not forgotten the boys they arrested and handed over, Cabdi Iley has given us absolutely green light to take revenge and thus wiped out as much of former enemies as we want, you lot poked a sleeping giant who was not even focused on yall, but he is now

i also hate why cabdi iely has to give 5% of universty places to somalia, puntland and somaliland students, somalis would never give us anything, heck some were working for the habashis during our war, i think we are too generous as a tribe sometimes, a part of me supports killing all of you lot idoors and MJs but then i think we have had our revenge as we have killed, punished, relocated as much of our enemies as we can, Mjs used to have a governor and several MPs and now they dont have a single goveror or MP as they have mostly been forced back to putland and idoors used to have 3 governors and now its just non and only one mps left for them, they used to have 12 mps and cabdi has put sand in their wells and send most of them back into somaliland, i believe he has been too kind, i would have liquidated their women, children and men of young and old, HE HAS NOT DONE ENOUGH and the 6 faroole arrested and 2 he killed we have killed several dozen times more and kicked out thousands and arrested hundreds, what has faroole achieved for you? we are like Stalin who has come to Berlin, i want more killed, i want to kill, killing them every day would be a blessing, this idea of killing idoors every few months and mjs every once a year is not enough , we need more

i strongly believe Ogaden has killed 5 idoors for every one they have killed or arrested, its only been 5 years, we will liquidate them, revenge is best served quietly when the world doesn't know, mark my words, you will never hear an Mj or an idoor in DDSI isnha Allah and the few remaining will be sent back to their home land.

lastly, your uncle darwiish has no militia, they are 6 guys from his tribe that protect him, several guys under him when i was there last summer tried an uprising, but who is more deadly than Ogaden with the bullet? they run of to jilib then they came back and handed themselves, they will be executed for the murders they committed and darwiish begged us to be distanced from the allegations he was behind them, he cried he has kids and wife in the houses, we respected that, Ogadens are generous by nature but deadly if you ever try going to war with them.


i understand the idoors, we are like Italians and Japanese, very different people, this is why when we wiped and burned villages it doesn't bother me because we are different, the way it doesn't bother you when you hear an earth quake struck Siberia or Mongolia,, but yall were a disappointment, so tell me hashi, you shot me once, but i get to shoot you every time/ every day at will, arrest you and removed you from the land so who won? me or you?

consider yourselves luck as we dont disrespect your females unlike the Hawiyes and Marehans known for mass rape. how fortunate for all yall this is not our culture, but mark my words we will make both yall the gypsies of DDSI.

I do not know about this ONLF 2006 stuff, I do not know much about k5 in general especially historical events. I can't offer comments to things I do not know about. Can you tell me one thing, which MJs where these? There are Cumar Maxmuuds that live k5 too, specifically Reer Khalaf and Reer Mahad. There is also the Reer Maxmuud MJ.

I don't see why you paint us all in the same brush. I am Reer Bicidyahan, not Maxmuud Salebaan, and Faroole is Ciise Maxmuud. What he has been done has nothing to do with Bicidyahans, and hence we do not deserve any blame. I do not deny what Faroole did was wrong, the fact of the matter it is not our fault. If anything come after his beesha.

Also, if we are to degenerate into infighting I must bring up how Ogaden in betrayed Darood in 1991. Cumar Jees disarmed Darood civillians that were fleeing Mogadishu, only to leave them to be victims to the cowardly usually docile Raxanweyne. Your people would then later join Hawiye and attack the Daroods to capture Kismaayo. If it weren't for your people we would have gone further than Afgoye.
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Re: Madhibaan

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HashIII wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:27 am
TeeriReturns wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:16 pm
HashIII wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:13 am

Wardheer and Gaalkacyo are the boundaries of our land, and consequently there are large populations in both. I have only had the pleasure of visiting puntland, I am yet to visit k5. There isn't really much you can learn about the place online, there are very little resources, I haven't been able to find much really. Neither do I know much about OG sub clans. I hoping to learn more when I visit, ideally in the next 2 years.

In Gaalkacyo Reer Bicidyahans make up most of the army, we had a lot of casualties in the last skirmishes. We hold the title of being the warriors of Majerteen. Even the name Gaalkacyo comes from the name Gaalaeri (largest sub clan of bicidyahan). We have a large presence there.

The Somali media is truly cancerous. There is very little fact checking, and rumours are just plastered all over these news websites. Lol, I remember when some guy in Mogdishu spoke to BBC Somali (i think it was them) and pretended to be some PSF commander lmao. The skirmshes ended a while back but I am not sure of the climate back in Gaalkacyo.

So your from Jubbaland? What can you tell me about General Darwiish and his militia that he has? Do you have any idea how many Reer Bicidyahans live in Kismaayo, i know some of us live there?

Why are you offended I claimed wardheer? We do live there in large numbers. Even the abtirsi.com site says so, even though it is rather blogish. It is well known. I hope I haven't offended you. I hope you can answer my questions.

I am not offended, the MJs tried taking advantage during our war with Ethiopia in 2006-2011, uoi lot share 1 degaan with us out of 6 degaans Makahiil Ogaden lives in but MJs would go to the Ethiopians and say all the degaan governors and MPs were ONLF, as a result they became the leaders of all 6 degaans, this is like making a hawiye the governors of kismayo, afmadow, etc.

When Cabdi Iley came and we were brokering for peace, we arrested all the MJ governors who painted the former OG governors as ONLF and we kicked them and deported most of their people out to puntland and specially galkaciyo and these former governos bloked putland trade into DDSI, now who suffered? us or you lot? in the long run it was you becasie we live in 84 degaasn out of 92 degaasn in DDSI, i wish you ot had nort delacred war on us at our weakest point against the enemy you took advanagte, dont even get me started on faroole arresting 6 OG born in Put with majeerteen wifes and others as ONLF, thankfully Cabdi Iley released them immediately but we will never forget what your people have done to us during our war against the Ethiopians, do you know why we enjoy killing idoors regularly? the Liyu police are former ONLF bent on revenge and I feel sorry for the idoors as Ogadens has not forgotten the boys they arrested and handed over, Cabdi Iley has given us absolutely green light to take revenge and thus wiped out as much of former enemies as we want, you lot poked a sleeping giant who was not even focused on yall, but he is now

i also hate why cabdi iely has to give 5% of universty places to somalia, puntland and somaliland students, somalis would never give us anything, heck some were working for the habashis during our war, i think we are too generous as a tribe sometimes, a part of me supports killing all of you lot idoors and MJs but then i think we have had our revenge as we have killed, punished, relocated as much of our enemies as we can, Mjs used to have a governor and several MPs and now they dont have a single goveror or MP as they have mostly been forced back to putland and idoors used to have 3 governors and now its just non and only one mps left for them, they used to have 12 mps and cabdi has put sand in their wells and send most of them back into somaliland, i believe he has been too kind, i would have liquidated their women, children and men of young and old, HE HAS NOT DONE ENOUGH and the 6 faroole arrested and 2 he killed we have killed several dozen times more and kicked out thousands and arrested hundreds, what has faroole achieved for you? we are like Stalin who has come to Berlin, i want more killed, i want to kill, killing them every day would be a blessing, this idea of killing idoors every few months and mjs every once a year is not enough , we need more

i strongly believe Ogaden has killed 5 idoors for every one they have killed or arrested, its only been 5 years, we will liquidate them, revenge is best served quietly when the world doesn't know, mark my words, you will never hear an Mj or an idoor in DDSI isnha Allah and the few remaining will be sent back to their home land.

lastly, your uncle darwiish has no militia, they are 6 guys from his tribe that protect him, several guys under him when i was there last summer tried an uprising, but who is more deadly than Ogaden with the bullet? they run of to jilib then they came back and handed themselves, they will be executed for the murders they committed and darwiish begged us to be distanced from the allegations he was behind them, he cried he has kids and wife in the houses, we respected that, Ogadens are generous by nature but deadly if you ever try going to war with them.


i understand the idoors, we are like Italians and Japanese, very different people, this is why when we wiped and burned villages it doesn't bother me because we are different, the way it doesn't bother you when you hear an earth quake struck Siberia or Mongolia,, but yall were a disappointment, so tell me hashi, you shot me once, but i get to shoot you every time/ every day at will, arrest you and removed you from the land so who won? me or you?

consider yourselves luck as we dont disrespect your females unlike the Hawiyes and Marehans known for mass rape. how fortunate for all yall this is not our culture, but mark my words we will make both yall the gypsies of DDSI.

I do not know about this ONLF 2006 stuff, I do not know much about k5 in general especially historical events. I can't offer comments to things I do not know about. Can you tell me one thing, which MJs where these? There are Cumar Maxmuuds that live k5 too, specifically Reer Khalaf and Reer Mahad. There is also the Reer Maxmuud MJ.

I don't see why you paint us all in the same brush. I am Reer Bicidyahan, not Maxmuud Salebaan, and Faroole is Ciise Maxmuud. What he has been done has nothing to do with Bicidyahans, and hence we do not deserve any blame. I do not deny what Faroole did was wrong, the fact of the matter it is not our fault. If anything come after his beesha.

Also, if we are to degenerate into infighting I must bring up how Ogaden in betrayed Darood in 1991. Cumar Jees disarmed Darood civillians that were fleeing Mogadishu, only to leave them to be victims to the cowardly usually docile Raxanweyne. Your people would then later join Hawiye and attack the Daroods to capture Kismaayo. If it weren't for your people we would have gone further than Afgoye.

Mj is MJ, but it doesnt matter now, we have killed, removed many back to puntland and arrested some, i would have prefered a total liquation.

secondly, do you think Ahmed Omar Jees just woke up and decided to fight and kill hartis out of the blue? do you think your so innocent? he was disgusted with how MJs killed and tortured before that and chopped up 12 high rank former government officials in kismayo, this included Ibrahim Turki, brother of Hassan Turki AUN, Jees simply got 70 MJs and threw them of the Highest building, because they killed and chopped up 12 man in pieces and it also included women MJs too but we never touched the females, i say 70 was nothing, he should have killed 70,000 in my opinion for those 12 man yall killed, not 70, too low. an mj is an mj so please stop separating them, when you were killing those innocent 12 man in kismayo did you differentiate them into Ogaden sub clans?

thirdly with out my oeple you would still be languishing in Utanga, Kenya has 12 generals, 4 Ogaden, 4 Kukuya and the other 4 between other ethnic groups, we used our influence and Mohamoud barrow being the chief field Marshall of the Kenyan defense forces to get an entire ship of weapons we used to kick the hutus all the way back to afgoye, but your back stabbing hartis wanted everything for themselves and t o rule jubbalnd, dude you live in kismayo and jubbalnd is 15 degaan and i reside in 11 of those, what makes you think you will rule jubbaland, of course i had to fight you after your double dealings and used aidid to support me when you had all other daroods on your side, whatever it takes to stay in power, its funny how you assumed your s innocent and we decided to kill MJs, remember every action has an opposite reaction,

we are enemies in my opinion, the darood card is only useful when you or i get attacked by hawiyes etc.
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TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:21 am Mj is MJ, but it doesnt matter now, we have killed, removed many back to puntland and arrested some, i would have prefered a total liquation.

secondly, do you think Ahmed Omar Jees just woke up and decided to fight and kill hartis out of the blue? do you think your so innocent? he was disgusted with how MJs killed and tortured before that and chopped up 12 high rank former government officials in kismayo, this included Ibrahim Turki, brother of Hassan Turki AUN, Jees simply got 70 MJs and threw them of the Highest building, because they killed and chopped up 12 man in pieces and it also included women MJs too but we never touched the females, i say 70 was nothing, he should have killed 70,000 in my opinion for those 12 man yall killed, not 70, too low. an mj is an mj so please stop separating them, when you were killing those innocent 12 man in kismayo did you differentiate them into Ogaden sub clans?

thirdly with out my oeple you would still be languishing in Utanga, Kenya has 12 generals, 4 Ogaden, 4 Kukuya and the other 4 between other ethnic groups, we used our influence and Mohamoud barrow being the chief field Marshall of the Kenyan defense forces to get an entire ship of weapons we used to kick the hutus all the way back to afgoye, but your back stabbing hartis wanted everything for themselves and t o rule jubbalnd, dude you live in kismayo and jubbalnd is 15 degaan and i reside in 11 of those, what makes you think you will rule jubbaland, of course i had to fight you after your double dealings and used aidid to support me when you had all other daroods on your side, whatever it takes to stay in power, its funny how you assumed your s innocent and we decided to kill MJs, remember every action has an opposite reaction,

we are enemies in my opinion, the darood card is only useful when you or i get attacked by hawiyes etc.
There has never been a Darood or Hawiye card. When people are greedy they do what they wish. Hence OG's betraying Daroods in their hour of need, and Faroole handing over ONLF to the TPLF. If Daroodism and Hawiyeism where real, the civil war would have had a very very different trajectory. Marehan wouldn't be a Hawiye sub clan, and HG's wouldn't have attacked every Hawiye subclan (they even attacked Beledweyne lol).

I have a distant relative that was murdered in Kismaayo when the OG's and Haiwyes killed 200 intellectuals and odeys that there having a shir. Their families and others have moved on and do not hold grievances, as normal people that wish an end to the civil. There are hardly any parties that are truly innocent, everybody is guilty of something, even the noble Darood. It is why genuine reconciliation is necessary.

I know you don't want to hear since you are such a hateful person, but it is what it is.

BTW Daroods do not work together even when Hawiye is attacking them, it has never happened. Only Hawiyes have ever worked together successfully to attack Darood, and that was only because their immediate goals aligned.

The only way I can see Daroods working together is if Hawiye makes moves to look Darood out of government. It's a shame since Daroods live in 3 horner countries, both of Somalia's river travel through their region of K5 and most of the livestock comes from their regions (especially the hawd). They could very easily make moves but we are too shorted and hateful.
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