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Berbera has massive potential

Who cares about few unemployed loosers that don't represent shit.

Reality is the somali republic is finished your walaweyn reverted back to their italian name somalia and Somaliland to their old name. Why act as though your government in Moqdisho represent any one else.

Warya X

You need to ignore trolls. I will soon clean up this topic.

I will respond to you guys a bit later.

LJ thanks in advance sxb.

balwarama wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:35 am The whole DP take over thing, is an Emirati attempt to get back at Djibouti, after they were kicked out of there, in favor of a chinese company. The economic benefits are insignificant at best and none existent at worst. You see, these Khaleeji Arabs have women mentality. If they feel wronged, they will stop at nothing to bring you down. Look what happened to Gaddafi. He once insulted a Saudi sheikh

I didn't expect much from you. I don't expect you to understand basic things.

The UAE-Djibouti fallout is called opportunity for Somaliland or someone else (even Eritrea). That's how the world operates. In another words: one man's loss is another man's gain.

DP is the third largest port operator in the world. The signatory in Berbera is no different than the one in Melbourne.

Poor statement as usual.

X.Playa wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:39 am You sound like a make up artist who is telling a dead woman how beautiful the postmortem lipstic would look on her.

Kid this is a national catastrophe 85% out of total 18 million animals have gone thats lost in the billions. 90% of the nomads are finished. Billions of wealth gone.

And you are happy beacuse why? These poor once rich independent proud people will flock to the cities to chew qaad beg and talk shit in hargaysaand Burco coffeehouses further increasing the unemployment of the masses.

Its a fucken catastrophe and you are telling us we will eat cake in the future

I think you just enjoy arguments because I noticed if someone said the sky is blue you would go on the offensive.

Right now you have not made any argument other than just claim I am partying.

I mean you have a problem here but you failed to list solutions, alternatives or any prediction or forecast of how people may come out in the end or may behaviour.

What I am saying is things will not be what they are today. Do you not agree? If not why? If yes then what is the alternative?

Of course more and more people will settle in small towns and cities.

What was the nomadic rate of Somalis prior to 1974 Dabo-dheer droughts? What was the rate of urbanisation after? What was the influx of people in Mogadishu in 2010 famine?

It looks like there was major shift and major resettlement programmes by the Kacaan Government with the help of the Soviets.

Various segments of the population apparently increased at different rates. The nomadic population grew at less than 2 percent a year, and the seminomadic, fully settled rural and urban populations (in that order) at higher rates--well over 2.5 percent in the case of the urban population.

The sedentary population was augmented in the mid-1970s by the arrival of more than 100,000 nomads who came from the drought-stricken north and northeast to take up agricultural occupations in the southwest.

Most of these people went back to nomadism after the livestock recovered and the rains continued some good years. In the early 1980s we actually witnessed a good surge in nomadism especially in Somaliland and Haud. This was due to few factors including; Somalilanders earning good incomes in the Middle East who were sending good money to help people back home to take up livestock. This is when we saw the boom in berkado in Haud and the sinking of wells. Livestock had became a big business worth millions and Somalis, especially Somaliland, was the king of export. From 1970s to early 1980s we saw dozens of Landers become so wealthy from livestock including Deero, Adan Baradho, Mr Said Booska, even Jirde Hussein (he exported animal hides) etc.

In this era our Middle Eastern community not only kept things afloat but helped restore the livestock and today I predict the likes of DP World will play their role in the recovery. You have to see the relationship. Middle Eastern workers dug berkado and wells, DP and the UAE are funding the next stage of water harnessing for Somaliland. Berkado attracted Landers to Haud (the most berkado per capita are in Haud) and now these medium-large dams will do the opposite.

Wassim Haroun‏ @SilTee Mar 11

Thank you all for the information. Within 3 days there will be a truck leaving Hargeisa with 4 tons of rice, children's clothing and more

Then the war broke out and now all the urban dwellers were going to the country side to settle in makeshift camps such as Dulcaad, Harshin, Harta-Sheikh, Daroor, Rabaso etc.

In the 1990s things reversed once again and more people have been leaving nomadism ever since.

For someone who claims to be historian, you failed to see these patterns and if we do not learn from history and try to predict we may find ourselves in an endless factious cycle, which we already in.

So my friend if you differ you have to state otherwise and not see things as me celebrating. I am merely analysing and trying to predict how our people may respond to the challenges.

Nomadism is an up and down business. It's high risk business. I think you have no connection to Somaliland/Somalia/Haud since you left. I know many of my relatives who left Haud a decade ago for the big towns in Somaliland. Today they eating good and don't have to search for water in the desert. They gambled and as a result today they are not waiting for food aid.

I know that is the case and the population in Haud dropped by at least 60%-70% since 1990s levels.

Short time big problems but in the long term people are better off. Today all our towns are doing better than our nomadic people. These urban people were once nomads themselves. Some made the switch voluntarily and others like todays IDP, they were victims of droughts.


Of course I endorse short term struggle and long term resilience. On the other hand looks like you want them to remain in this situation without any option.


I hope you learned something.



The Ras