POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Daily chitchat.

Moderators: Moderators, Junior Moderators

Forum rules
This General Forum is for general discussions from daily chitchat to more serious discussions among Somalinet Forums members. Please do not use it as your Personal Message center (PM). If you want to contact a particular person or a group of people, please use the PM feature. If you want to contact the moderators, pls PM them. If you insist leaving a public message for the mods or other members, it will be deleted.

A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

It makes no difference to me at all
5
28%
It is attractive if she earns more than me
0
No votes
It is attractive if she is BOTH more educated and earns more than me
2
11%
It is a turn-off ONLY if she earns more than me
9
50%
It is a turn-off ONLY if she is more educated than me
2
11%
 
Total votes: 18

User avatar
TheMightyNomad
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1704
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:47 am

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by TheMightyNomad »

CaliQaseV2 wrote: Mon May 08, 2017 3:38 pm You still got a lot to learn buddy; naag hadday kaa aqoon badan tahay ama kaa degree sarreyso ayadaanba ku rabin!
thehappyone wrote:
Macarons wrote: Tue May 09, 2017 7:32 pm
thehappyone wrote: Istaqfrullah a woman earning more than me? I might as well stay home to cook and clean if she's the breadwinner
You can opt to stay as breadwinner like advo and not take her money. Act like it doesn't exist :mrgreen:

That's never going to work.....



Image
:up: I Agree with both CaliQaseV2 and Thehappyone.
User avatar
TheMightyNomad
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1704
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:47 am

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by TheMightyNomad »

Your "credentials" don't attract Somali men! Just because you feel that you are successful, independent, professional and educated doesn’t mean that’s you are attractive to Somali men, or even datable for that matter. It it is your EXTERIOR that gets a Somali man's attention (smile, look, personality, non-bitchy attitude, confidence and overall attractiveness) and your INTERIOR (your love for Allah, family, friends, being honest, supportive, respectful, emotionally stable, goal-oriented) that keeps a Somali man coming back for more.

Thats why you see most highly educated and sucessful Somali men in the western diaspora do not marry equally educated westernized Somali women. Most marry either from back home, middle east or marry some humble religious family oriented woman regardless of her educational attainment. These are dudes who are doctors, engineers,professionals and many of them have jobs at companies like microsoft, google etc. You rarely see them marry from the western diaspora.

Hence why today you see a lot of Xalimo's complaining. ''I got my degree, education why is it so hard to find an educated Somali man''. ''Why do educated Somali men marry uneducated women''.

It's because Somali men are not looking for the so called strong, independent, ''i don't need a man, i can take care of myself'' westernized Somali woman who would ask for a divorce just so she can focus on her career(self) and only wants to compete with him.

Lastly a woman who earns more than you or is more educated don't want your ass to begin with. So why entertain this as a possible reality.

As a result you have a high percentage of bitter single western Xalimo's in their 30s and 20s in the west. The same trend of single educated women you see exist in the South Asian, Arab and African American/African communities.
thehappyone
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 5196
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:00 am
Location: Isle of Fernando

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by thehappyone »

TheMightyNomad wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:13 am Your "credentials" don't attract Somali men! Just because you feel that you are successful, independent, professional and educated doesn’t mean that’s you are attractive to Somali men, or even datable for that matter. It it is your EXTERIOR that gets a Somali man's attention (smile, look, personality, non-bitchy attitude, confidence and overall attractiveness) and your INTERIOR (your love for Allah, family, friends, being honest, supportive, respectful, emotionally stable, goal-oriented) that keeps a Somali man coming back for more.

Thats why you see most highly educated and sucessful Somali men in the western diaspora do not marry equally educated westernized Somali women. Most marry either from back home, middle east or marry some humble religious family oriented woman regardless of her educational attainment. These are dudes who are doctors, engineers,professionals and many of them have jobs at companies like microsoft, google etc. You rarely see them marry from the western diaspora.

Hence why today you see a lot of Xalimo's complaining. ''I got my degree, education why is it so hard to find an educated Somali man''. ''Why do educated Somali men marry uneducated women''.

It's because Somali men are not looking for the so called strong, independent, ''i don't need a man, i can take care of myself'' westernized Somali woman who would ask for a divorce just so she can focus on her career(self) and only wants to compete with him.

Lastly a woman who earns more than you or is more educated don't want your ass to begin with. So why entertain this as a possible reality.

As a result you have a high percentage of bitter single western Xalimo's in their 30s and 20s in the west. The same trend of single educated women you see exist in the South Asian, Arab and African American/African communities.
sxb why do most xalimos have a negative personality. Today I got onto the train platform, there was a xalimo there when she saw me she walked to the other side of the platforn, I was like ??? They always have a miserable looking face. Other girls of other ethnicities smile and sometimes even make convo. But xalimos act like your going to propose if they stay put.
User avatar
Macarons
SomaliNetizen
SomaliNetizen
Posts: 373
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:17 pm

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by Macarons »

TheMightyNomad wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:13 am Your "credentials" don't attract Somali men! Just because you feel that you are successful, independent, professional and educated doesn’t mean that’s you are attractive to Somali men, or even datable for that matter. It it is your EXTERIOR that gets a Somali man's attention (smile, look, personality, non-bitchy attitude, confidence and overall attractiveness) and your INTERIOR (your love for Allah, family, friends, being honest, supportive, respectful, emotionally stable, goal-oriented) that keeps a Somali man coming back for more.

Thats why you see most highly educated and sucessful Somali men in the western diaspora do not marry equally educated westernized Somali women. Most marry either from back home, middle east or marry some humble religious family oriented woman regardless of her educational attainment. These are dudes who are doctors, engineers,professionals and many of them have jobs at companies like microsoft, google etc. You rarely see them marry from the western diaspora.

Hence why today you see a lot of Xalimo's complaining. ''I got my degree, education why is it so hard to find an educated Somali man''. ''Why do educated Somali men marry uneducated women''.

It's because Somali men are not looking for the so called strong, independent, ''i don't need a man, i can take care of myself'' westernized Somali woman who would ask for a divorce just so she can focus on her career(self) and only wants to compete with him.

Lastly a woman who earns more than you or is more educated don't want your ass to begin with. So why entertain this as a possible reality.

As a result you have a high percentage of bitter single western Xalimo's in their 30s and 20s in the west. The same trend of single educated women you see exist in the South Asian, Arab and African American/African communities.
Are all higher earning, or highly educated women the same? Can they not be nice and educated at the same time? lol

I feel like you assume a lot. I also know Somali male doctors and professionals who married in the diaspora, in fact many naturally seek someone with similar upbringing/ experiences/educational attainment/background/values. It's pretty normal.
Tuushi
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 8716
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:58 am

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by Tuushi »

Image
User avatar
FarhanYare
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 19029
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:06 pm
Location: Location:Location

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by FarhanYare »

thehappyone wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:03 pm
TheMightyNomad wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:13 am Your "credentials" don't attract Somali men! Just because you feel that you are successful, independent, professional and educated doesn’t mean that’s you are attractive to Somali men, or even datable for that matter. It it is your EXTERIOR that gets a Somali man's attention (smile, look, personality, non-bitchy attitude, confidence and overall attractiveness) and your INTERIOR (your love for Allah, family, friends, being honest, supportive, respectful, emotionally stable, goal-oriented) that keeps a Somali man coming back for more.

Thats why you see most highly educated and sucessful Somali men in the western diaspora do not marry equally educated westernized Somali women. Most marry either from back home, middle east or marry some humble religious family oriented woman regardless of her educational attainment. These are dudes who are doctors, engineers,professionals and many of them have jobs at companies like microsoft, google etc. You rarely see them marry from the western diaspora.

Hence why today you see a lot of Xalimo's complaining. ''I got my degree, education why is it so hard to find an educated Somali man''. ''Why do educated Somali men marry uneducated women''.

It's because Somali men are not looking for the so called strong, independent, ''i don't need a man, i can take care of myself'' westernized Somali woman who would ask for a divorce just so she can focus on her career(self) and only wants to compete with him.

Lastly a woman who earns more than you or is more educated don't want your ass to begin with. So why entertain this as a possible reality.

As a result you have a high percentage of bitter single western Xalimo's in their 30s and 20s in the west. The same trend of single educated women you see exist in the South Asian, Arab and African American/African communities.
sxb why do most xalimos have a negative personality. Today I got onto the train platform, there was a xalimo there when she saw me she walked to the other side of the platforn, I was like ??? They always have a miserable looking face. Other girls of other ethnicities smile and sometimes even make convo. But xalimos act like your going to propose if they stay put.
:lol: lmao! Get their numbers by any means necessary. Don't harass them though :? Wife hunting 101
User avatar
TheMightyNomad
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1704
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:47 am

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by TheMightyNomad »

thehappyone wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:03 pm
TheMightyNomad wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:13 am Your "credentials" don't attract Somali men! Just because you feel that you are successful, independent, professional and educated doesn’t mean that’s you are attractive to Somali men, or even datable for that matter. It it is your EXTERIOR that gets a Somali man's attention (smile, look, personality, non-bitchy attitude, confidence and overall attractiveness) and your INTERIOR (your love for Allah, family, friends, being honest, supportive, respectful, emotionally stable, goal-oriented) that keeps a Somali man coming back for more.

Thats why you see most highly educated and sucessful Somali men in the western diaspora do not marry equally educated westernized Somali women. Most marry either from back home, middle east or marry some humble religious family oriented woman regardless of her educational attainment. These are dudes who are doctors, engineers,professionals and many of them have jobs at companies like microsoft, google etc. You rarely see them marry from the western diaspora.

Hence why today you see a lot of Xalimo's complaining. ''I got my degree, education why is it so hard to find an educated Somali man''. ''Why do educated Somali men marry uneducated women''.

It's because Somali men are not looking for the so called strong, independent, ''i don't need a man, i can take care of myself'' westernized Somali woman who would ask for a divorce just so she can focus on her career(self) and only wants to compete with him.

Lastly a woman who earns more than you or is more educated don't want your ass to begin with. So why entertain this as a possible reality.

As a result you have a high percentage of bitter single western Xalimo's in their 30s and 20s in the west. The same trend of single educated women you see exist in the South Asian, Arab and African American/African communities.
sxb why do most xalimos have a negative personality. Today I got onto the train platform, there was a xalimo there when she saw me she walked to the other side of the platforn, I was like ??? They always have a miserable looking face. Other girls of other ethnicities smile and sometimes even make convo. But xalimos act like your going to propose if they stay put.
I know what you mean. This is especially the case for Somali girls who are born/raised in the diaspora. You walk by them and you see them give you the stink eye for no reason. I am thinking to myself. Dafuq is she ''eyeballin me for''. They always give random Faraxs dirty looks like we committed adultery or somethin.

It is really difficult to approach or engage with one. You say simply ''Aslamu aleykum'' and they will accuse you of being a creep tryin to hit on them. Saw this happen to a dude once. I flat out LOL'ed.

You don't typically see this hardened stuck up front with ajnabi girls and Fob girls. Most fob xalimos are easy to talk to and get along with from my opinion. The fobs are also much more feminine based on my experience. I met this one fob girl and she was one of the most down to earth chicks ive ever met.

I am not sure why Qurbajoog xalimos are like this. I guessing its due to social control. I think they are somehow socially conditioned into acting really stuck up and bitchy towards Somali guys. Their attitude and mannerism remind me of those ratchet ghetto Jamaican/AA chicks.

They have this ''You ain't shit'' and ''I am too good for you'' attitude going on. You see even how they project this masculine attitude on social media. They also more prone to generalize their bad experiences on every Somali male. If they have a bad relationship with their brother or father, every Somali guy is somehow held responsible.

You should do like any Somali dude would do, avoid them and don't pay attention to them.
User avatar
TheMightyNomad
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1704
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:47 am

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by TheMightyNomad »

Macarons wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 7:32 pm
TheMightyNomad wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:13 am Your "credentials" don't attract Somali men! Just because you feel that you are successful, independent, professional and educated doesn’t mean that’s you are attractive to Somali men, or even datable for that matter. It it is your EXTERIOR that gets a Somali man's attention (smile, look, personality, non-bitchy attitude, confidence and overall attractiveness) and your INTERIOR (your love for Allah, family, friends, being honest, supportive, respectful, emotionally stable, goal-oriented) that keeps a Somali man coming back for more.

Thats why you see most highly educated and sucessful Somali men in the western diaspora do not marry equally educated westernized Somali women. Most marry either from back home, middle east or marry some humble religious family oriented woman regardless of her educational attainment. These are dudes who are doctors, engineers,professionals and many of them have jobs at companies like microsoft, google etc. You rarely see them marry from the western diaspora.

Hence why today you see a lot of Xalimo's complaining. ''I got my degree, education why is it so hard to find an educated Somali man''. ''Why do educated Somali men marry uneducated women''.

It's because Somali men are not looking for the so called strong, independent, ''i don't need a man, i can take care of myself'' westernized Somali woman who would ask for a divorce just so she can focus on her career(self) and only wants to compete with him.

Lastly a woman who earns more than you or is more educated don't want your ass to begin with. So why entertain this as a possible reality.

As a result you have a high percentage of bitter single western Xalimo's in their 30s and 20s in the west. The same trend of single educated women you see exist in the South Asian, Arab and African American/African communities.
Are all higher earning, or highly educated women the same? Can they not be nice and educated at the same time? lol

I feel like you assume a lot. I also know Somali male doctors and professionals who married in the diaspora, in fact many naturally seek someone with similar upbringing/ experiences/educational attainment/background/values. It's pretty normal.
You misunderstood what i was saying. Most of the so called highly educated women are highly liberalized and feminized. Never said all were,but most are. That is the turn off for men. Also it's not normal at all, since most educated somali men usually go back home to somalia or to the middle east to find a wife.

This is not an assumption its an actual happening. There was a huge debate about why educated Somali men don't marry educated Somali women.

Both on SomaliTV, Snapchat and on sheeko sheeko tv

Estranged
Posts: 189
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:31 pm

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by Estranged »

TheMightyNomad wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 6:42 am
thehappyone wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:03 pm
TheMightyNomad wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:13 am Your "credentials" don't attract Somali men! Just because you feel that you are successful, independent, professional and educated doesn’t mean that’s you are attractive to Somali men, or even datable for that matter. It it is your EXTERIOR that gets a Somali man's attention (smile, look, personality, non-bitchy attitude, confidence and overall attractiveness) and your INTERIOR (your love for Allah, family, friends, being honest, supportive, respectful, emotionally stable, goal-oriented) that keeps a Somali man coming back for more.

Thats why you see most highly educated and sucessful Somali men in the western diaspora do not marry equally educated westernized Somali women. Most marry either from back home, middle east or marry some humble religious family oriented woman regardless of her educational attainment. These are dudes who are doctors, engineers,professionals and many of them have jobs at companies like microsoft, google etc. You rarely see them marry from the western diaspora.

Hence why today you see a lot of Xalimo's complaining. ''I got my degree, education why is it so hard to find an educated Somali man''. ''Why do educated Somali men marry uneducated women''.

It's because Somali men are not looking for the so called strong, independent, ''i don't need a man, i can take care of myself'' westernized Somali woman who would ask for a divorce just so she can focus on her career(self) and only wants to compete with him.

Lastly a woman who earns more than you or is more educated don't want your ass to begin with. So why entertain this as a possible reality.

As a result you have a high percentage of bitter single western Xalimo's in their 30s and 20s in the west. The same trend of single educated women you see exist in the South Asian, Arab and African American/African communities.
sxb why do most xalimos have a negative personality. Today I got onto the train platform, there was a xalimo there when she saw me she walked to the other side of the platforn, I was like ??? They always have a miserable looking face. Other girls of other ethnicities smile and sometimes even make convo. But xalimos act like your going to propose if they stay put.
I know what you mean. This is especially the case for Somali girls who are born/raised in the diaspora. You walk by them and you see them give you the stink eye for no reason. I am thinking to myself. Dafuq is she ''eyeballin me for''. They always give random Faraxs dirty looks like we committed adultery or somethin.

It is really difficult to approach or engage with one. You say simply ''Aslamu aleykum'' and they will accuse you of being a creep tryin to hit on them. Saw this happen to a dude once. I flat out LOL'ed.

You don't typically see this hardened stuck up front with ajnabi girls and Fob girls. Most fob xalimos are easy to talk to and get along with from my opinion. The fobs are also much more feminine based on my experience. I met this one fob girl and she was one of the most down to earth chicks ive ever met.

I am not sure why Qurbajoog xalimos are like this. I guessing its due to social control. I think they are somehow socially conditioned into acting really stuck up and bitchy towards Somali guys. Their attitude and mannerism remind me of those ratchet ghetto Jamaican/AA chicks.

They have this ''You ain't shit'' and ''I am too good for you'' attitude going on. You see even how they project this masculine attitude on social media. They also more prone to generalize their bad experiences on every Somali male. If they have a bad relationship with their brother or father, every Somali guy is somehow held responsible.

You should do like any Somali dude would do, avoid them and don't pay attention to them.

The irony. Your whole post was generalising and stereotyping Somali girls raised in the diaspora.
User avatar
SimplySerene
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1575
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:45 am

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by SimplySerene »

This thread is like traveling back in time.repeat . repeat . repeat

Time to mush it up quick


prophet phuh married a women successful business women.
so why would earnings even be a debate ?


All you have do respect and each other and be honest. a create plan that works for both of you.
If really hurts your ego then keep it private between the both of you. and make plan so your are both comfortable. How can more money be so negative? donate it. One day the roles could even be reverse. money can come and go. jobs can come and go
User avatar
X.Playa
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 17317
Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:00 pm
Location: Canada,Hawd

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by X.Playa »

SimplySerene wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 9:40 pm This thread is like traveling back in time.repeat . repeat . repeat

Time to mush it up quick


prophet phuh married a women successful business women.
so why would earnings even be a debate ?


All you have do respect and each other and be honest. a create plan that works for both of you.
If really hurts your ego then keep it private between the both of you. and make plan so your are both comfortable. How can more money be so negative? donate it. One day the roles could even be reverse. money can come and go. jobs can come and go
Yes he married khadija but guess what he never took a co wife. He didn't dare his cheque would have been cut off. Lol.

I checked the last two.
Estranged
Posts: 189
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 2:31 pm

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by Estranged »

SimplySerene wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 9:40 pm This thread is like traveling back in time.repeat . repeat . repeat

Time to mush it up quick


prophet phuh married a women successful business women.
so why would earnings even be a debate ?


All you have do respect and each other and be honest. a create plan that works for both of you.
If really hurts your ego then keep it private between the both of you. and make plan so your are both comfortable. How can more money be so negative? donate it. One day the roles could even be reverse. money can come and go. jobs can come and go
It comes down to what they consider 'masculinity'. Having a wife who is more successful than them, doing household chores or going into the kitchen to fix a meal for their family is 'emasculating' in their eyes. Clearly, their definition of 'masculinity' is heavily influenced by culture instead of the Sunnah of our Prophet (Saw)..
User avatar
SimplySerene
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1575
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:45 am

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by SimplySerene »

X.Playa wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 10:51 pm
SimplySerene wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 9:40 pm This thread is like traveling back in time.repeat . repeat . repeat

Time to mush it up quick


prophet phuh married a women successful business women.
so why would earnings even be a debate ?


All you have do respect and each other and be honest. a create plan that works for both of you.
If really hurts your ego then keep it private between the both of you. and make plan so your are both comfortable. How can more money be so negative? donate it. One day the roles could even be reverse. money can come and go. jobs can come and go
Yes he married khadija but guess what he never took a co wife. He didn't dare his cheque would have been cut off. Lol.

I checked the last two.
*squinting*
Check it 90201
Part tow
User avatar
gegiroor
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 6445
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:57 pm

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by gegiroor »

wrong thread.
User avatar
TheMightyNomad
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1704
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:47 am

Re: POLL Question: A Woman Earns More Than You OR Has a Higher degree?

Post by TheMightyNomad »

Estranged wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 8:42 pm
TheMightyNomad wrote: Sun May 14, 2017 6:42 am
thehappyone wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 5:03 pm
sxb why do most xalimos have a negative personality. Today I got onto the train platform, there was a xalimo there when she saw me she walked to the other side of the platforn, I was like ??? They always have a miserable looking face. Other girls of other ethnicities smile and sometimes even make convo. But xalimos act like your going to propose if they stay put.
I know what you mean. This is especially the case for Somali girls who are born/raised in the diaspora. You walk by them and you see them give you the stink eye for no reason. I am thinking to myself. Dafuq is she ''eyeballin me for''. They always give random Faraxs dirty looks like we committed adultery or somethin.

It is really difficult to approach or engage with one. You say simply ''Aslamu aleykum'' and they will accuse you of being a creep tryin to hit on them. Saw this happen to a dude once. I flat out LOL'ed.

You don't typically see this hardened stuck up front with ajnabi girls and Fob girls. Most fob xalimos are easy to talk to and get along with from my opinion. The fobs are also much more feminine based on my experience. I met this one fob girl and she was one of the most down to earth chicks ive ever met.

I am not sure why Qurbajoog xalimos are like this. I guessing its due to social control. I think they are somehow socially conditioned into acting really stuck up and bitchy towards Somali guys. Their attitude and mannerism remind me of those ratchet ghetto Jamaican/AA chicks.

They have this ''You ain't shit'' and ''I am too good for you'' attitude going on. You see even how they project this masculine attitude on social media. They also more prone to generalize their bad experiences on every Somali male. If they have a bad relationship with their brother or father, every Somali guy is somehow held responsible.

You should do like any Somali dude would do, avoid them and don't pay attention to them.

The irony. Your whole post was generalising and stereotyping Somali girls raised in the diaspora.
Don't see what you are getting at. Yes i am generalizing, never said i wasn't. I am describing the general attitude, behavior which i have experienced from Somali girls in the west in contrast to what i have experienced from ajanabis and fobs. Now it doesn't mean all of them are like that, but a lot of the ones born and raised in the west are
Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “General - General Discussions”