''I lost to Mengistu because of the Isaaq''-Siad Barre

[original dervish]

Borama was only an appetizer........the Derg/snm wanted the holy city (LA) as the main course.
AUN to the brave men who saved LA from the fate that befell Borama.

[Xildiiid]

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The Derg regime in Ethiopia was overthrown in 1991, how was it possible for the Derg troops to accompany the SNM when the EPLF and TPLF were encroaching Addis Ababa? Never mind the fact that Afweyne signed a peace treaty with Mengistu in 1988 in which Mengistu expelled the SNM from Ethiopia.

Cheap Faqash propaganda.

[original dervish]

Keep searching for the graves of your slaughtered terrorist filth.

[OAF]

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The Derg regime in Ethiopia was overthrown in 1991, how was it possible for the Derg troops to accompany the SNM when the EPLF and TPLF were encroaching Addis Ababa? Never mind the fact that Afweyne signed a peace treaty with Mengistu in 1988 in which Mengistu expelled the SNM from Ethiopia.

Cheap Faqash propaganda.

Is xasuuqii borama 1991 cheap ''faqash propaganda''?

SNM backed by ethiopian tanks rolled in Borama killing whatever in sight.

[Xildiiid]

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You're not making sense.

Afweyne signed away the Somali region in exchange for peace with Ethiopia. In the peace treaty Mengistu was obliged to expel SNM from Ethiopian territory which He did.

Are you telling me that Mengistu who was being attacked from all sides by encroaching EPLF and TPLF sent his troops to accompany the SNM in 1991 when he himself fled Ethiopia for Zimbabwe?

Stupid Faqash rat, your propaganda is illogical.

[BestPlaya]

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You're not making sense.

Afweyne signed away the Somali region in exchange for peace with Ethiopia. In the peace treaty Mengistu was obliged to expel SNM from Ethiopian territory which He did.

Are you telling me that Mengistu who was being attacked from all sides by encroaching EPLF and TPLF sent his troops to accompany the SNM in 1991 when he himself fled Ethiopia for Zimbabwe?

Stupid Faqash rat, your propaganda is illogical.

Sxb adoon caytamin RAG lama doodi kartid miyaa??..

[Xildiiid]

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Your people are filthy trash.

[Waachis]

SNM fought hard like true warriors.

Today we celebrate their victory and we recognise our brothers SSNM (Biyomaal) and USC.

i give credit where it's due ya ilma Soomal. is it safe to say the isaaq maybe the best at organizing/mobilizing their people politically, among somalis?
i haven't studied the situation enough to say for sure, so any input helps.
galatoomi.

[OAF]

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You're not making sense.

Afweyne signed away the Somali region in exchange for peace with Ethiopia. In the peace treaty Mengistu was obliged to expel SNM from Ethiopian territory which He did.

Are you telling me that Mengistu who was being attacked from all sides by encroaching EPLF and TPLF sent his troops to accompany the SNM in 1991 when he himself fled Ethiopia for Zimbabwe?

Stupid Faqash rat, your propaganda is illogical.

Ethiopians is ethiopians nevertheless, your trying to hide away the fact that these people were massacred by SNM that were backed by ethiopians in borama and dilla, 1991.

This sheikh was present in borama during the awful event done by the leaders of somaliland backed by ethiopians.

[luis1]

Siad Barre made many political and military mistakes. Some people think he resigned Ogaden claims but this opinion has not been proven yet.

[Ben Dover]

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You're not making sense.

Afweyne signed away the Somali region in exchange for peace with Ethiopia. In the peace treaty Mengistu was obliged to expel SNM from Ethiopian territory which He did.

Are you telling me that Mengistu who was being attacked from all sides by encroaching EPLF and TPLF sent his troops to accompany the SNM in 1991 when he himself fled Ethiopia for Zimbabwe?

Stupid Faqash rat, your propaganda is illogical.

Ethiopians is ethiopians nevertheless, your trying to hide away the fact that these people were massacred by SNM that were backed by ethiopians in borama and dilla, 1991.

This sheikh was present in borama during the awful event done by the leaders of somaliland backed by ethiopians.

That is a photograph of the Sabra and Shatila massacre in Lebanon.

Your source says the SDA claimed....

Try again.

[AwRastaale]

SNM fought hard like true warriors.

Today we celebrate their victory and we recognise our brothers SSNM (Biyomaal) and USC.

i give credit where it's due ya ilma Soomal. is it safe to say the isaaq maybe the best at organizing/mobilizing their people politically, among somalis?
i haven't studied the situation enough to say for sure, so any input helps.
galatoomi.

Well we defeated Barre for a reason. The rest are just talk and hardly ever won any realistic battle.

USC is like our TPLF (installed by EPLF).

We, the SNM, strategised very well. We made Hawiye vice-chairman and that man went on to establish USC.
We had the SSNM (Southern SNM) from southern clans.

No body else achieved that or strategised in that manner.

BTW SNM is acronym for Somali National Movement and its goal was to include all Somalis in the solution.

Mengistu was smart also because he invested wisely by backing the lions. He arrested Abdillahi Yusuf (SSDF) leader because he knew they were useless and he was right. SSDF gave up after a year or two. They surrendered to Barre.

BTW they captured all their arms from Barre. They had special units that performed espionage kind of missions. They used to break into prisons to free political leaders and military experts. They used to raid bases to capture arms. They performed some daring campaigns.





These guys are highly honored in SNM history. The guy in the middle with the afro holding the cigarette especially. They named him Lixle. He led the mission to break into several prisons including the notorious Mandeera prison where he freed hundreds of prisoners. He took them across the border into Ethiopia (about 160km) along with captured troops belonging to Barre. It is said awaiting SNM executed them all.



Another famous operation was the "Birjeex" (prison break---literally means splitting metals).

The Barre army wanted to execute a man called Abdillahi "askar", or Abdillahi the soldier after he was captured. He was a member of national army before he joined SNM. When they captured him they were over the moon. They wanted to make an example of him and execute him on the public arena---hence they asked the public to come out to witness.

Just hours before the so called execution, a group of SNM led by a man called Ibrahim Kodbuur stormed the premises he was held and escaped with him and dozens of other prisoners.

It was complete humiliation for Barre because his lieutenants told the public they did capture the elusive and clever Abdillahi and they were ready to prove it. Next day they had nothing to show.


These are just few examples of these legendary men and why they triumphed against all odds.

No other Somali has those kind of legends.


Caption: ZEILA, Awdal: Rebel militiamen belonging to the Somali National Movement, fighting the regime of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre, load an anti-aircraft twins cannon near the town of Zeila, northern Somalia in October 1989

[Sauron]

SNM

AUN to the mujahidiin!

[luis1]

I dont agree with Siad Barre opinion.

SNM, USC defeated him.

[luis1]

The article tell us many interesting things about Somalia and Ethiopia negotiations in 1988.



http://sunatimes.com/articles/4080/...o ... ng-Somalia

Ethiopian foreign policy and the Ogaden War: the shift from "containment" to "destabilization," 1977–1991

Department of History, Jimma Jimma University, Ethiopia

This optimistic, may be even, triumphalist declaration was to prove premature. Just four months later, the Derg itself was no more, finally overwhelmed and chased from power by the multiple internal rebellions it had been unable to quell over the previous two decades. The Derg may have defeated Somalia, but Ethiopia’s own internal rebellions had finally defeated the Derg. Seen in this light, the destabilization in Somalia that Ethiopia fomented under the Derg seems a less successful strategy, as it has proved to be a significant element in the ongoing challenges that subsequent Ethiopian Governments have faced on the country’s southeastern frontier. Even after the fall of the Derg, Ethiopia is still paying a heavy price for its "destabilization” strategy in Somalia.