Kheyre vs Farmaajo

[sahal80]

it is the real truth that majority of mogadihsu people 75 percent support farmajo.i dont see the issue here.

sxb xamar is not different than hargeysa and garowe you cant ignore isaaq and mj and say i will be protected by a minority subclan who r my inlaws. i think abgaal and HG who r politically sidelined consist more than 80% of xamar population. the IC and amisom were not ready for a non local president but they had relations with khayre and were told farmaajo is different he is popular at the locals bla bla

this was before he got totally hijacked by murursade. im ala sheikh and they agreed to appoint a HG pm he did not he also ignored the abgaals how can you survive in such situation? khayre is trying to act as the strong man of mogadishu (publically) to attract HG in some coming reshuffle, by this way he may survive. this is why farmaajo started relaying on fahad yasin wich is a disaster choice as the guy is very corrupt


having said that like i said there is no street mucaarad now, there r people who r silent there r those who want to see a change but if khayre goes there wont be a change just another corrupted group.

[Geeljire252]

Farmaajo's failed promises.

[Strategic]

it is the real truth that majority of mogadihsu people 75 percent support farmajo.i dont see the issue here.

sxb xamar is not different than hargeysa and garowe you cant ignore isaaq and mj and say i will be protected by a minority subclan who r my inlaws. i think abgaal and HG who r politically sidelined consist more than 80% of xamar population. the IC and amisom were not ready for a non local president but they had relations with khayre and were told farmaajo is different he is popular at the locals bla bla

this was before he got totally hijacked by murursade. im ala sheikh and they agreed to appoint a HG pm he did not he also ignored the abgaals how can you survive in such situation? khayre is trying to act as the strong man of mogadishu (publically) to attract HG in some coming reshuffle, by this way he may survive. this is why farmaajo started relaying on fahad yasin wich is a disaster choice as the guy is very corrupt


having said that like i said there is no street mucaarad now, there r people who r silent there r those who want to see a change but if khayre goes there wont be a change just another corrupted group.

we can accuse every somali government like corrupt but enough is enough,we cant oppose any government for petty reasons,hon.farmajo came by election and will go by election and i hope he continues the developmental polices of his former president halyey HSM.what is the point of dividing our selves into qabiil cousins when we want to share power with 100+million people in kenya and ethiopia? silly at the end of the way,we know qabiil destroyed us so much that we have foreigners protecting somalis from killing eacother,that is so low point in history.

[Susu000]

The only thing I have noticed with Farmaajo is that he states what the public wants to hear to gain supporters but behind closed doors with foreign diplomat does the exact opposite. I'm not a mucarad but he's contradicting statements and behavior are quite obvious to be fair. It won't take long before the public realizes this.

He can't promise people a dream and then agree to their nightmares with foreign governments.

In his defense, being a president of Somalia must be extremely difficult as so many foreign stakeholders. Farmaajo seems like he's a wadani but is torn between the public and the international community.

Allah u fududeeyo maskiinka.

[sahal80]

it is the real truth that majority of mogadihsu people 75 percent support farmajo.i dont see the issue here.

sxb xamar is not different than hargeysa and garowe you cant ignore isaaq and mj and say i will be protected by a minority subclan who r my inlaws. i think abgaal and HG who r politically sidelined consist more than 80% of xamar population. the IC and amisom were not ready for a non local president but they had relations with khayre and were told farmaajo is different he is popular at the locals bla bla

this was before he got totally hijacked by murursade. im ala sheikh and they agreed to appoint a HG pm he did not he also ignored the abgaals how can you survive in such situation? khayre is trying to act as the strong man of mogadishu (publically) to attract HG in some coming reshuffle, by this way he may survive. this is why farmaajo started relaying on fahad yasin wich is a disaster choice as the guy is very corrupt


having said that like i said there is no street mucaarad now, there r people who r silent there r those who want to see a change but if khayre goes there wont be a change just another corrupted group.

we can accuse every somali government like corrupt but enough is enough,we cant oppose any government for petty reasons,hon.farmajo came by election and will go by election and i hope he continues the developmental polices of his former president halyey HSM.what is the point of dividing our selves into qabiil cousins when we want to share power with 100+million people in kenya and ethiopia? silly at the end of the way,we know qabiil destroyed us so much that we have foreigners protecting somalis from killing eacother,that is so low point in history.

my friend you dont get my point and im not mucaarad, i just stated facts that some delusionals dont like it. donor conference, constitution, SFG-SL talks, elected mayor for banadir all these files r in the hands of the HIPS institute

HIPS and afyare elmi want take advantage of farmaajo leadership to give the president more power bc most of the time he will be from mogadishu and PL is against it bc they see the om is their post. among huge centralist points like the ports, foreign investments, army, the paperwas published in there hips but you need to download it. this link talks about it. SL will be confederal region and UK will host the talks led by caynte!! most HAGist strategy ever!
http://www.constitutionnet.org/news/op- ... nister-new


security, Ethiopia all r in hussein macalin hands

Southwest, cabinet all r in the hands of khayre and dhuxulow

they also manage the demo via the mayor wich is why the pm has to there in every public speaking

lastly this govt is based on qabiil and represents a local subclan interests

is it good? yes there r huge reforms but comparing to over 400 people killed in 3 months it willcost alot wich is why you need a good inclusive siyaasad mot just technicality.

[Strategic]

it is ok.every government we have had since 70 years ago has been accused of rep clan interest.it is old news.nobody cares as long as they do what is good for the country!

[Dhulbahantking]

hawadle r bigger than dhulbahante and you calling them laangaab kkkk how abgaal is dominating Hiirshabelle? hawadle r f-king political alite they r silent now bc the abgaals stayed away from their hiraab shit at the same time it will empwer their position infront of the govt. HG and murursade r teaming up after their failed hiraab conference. thats why khayre had a meeting with HG and xaaf.. there will be a reshuffle in wich HG will be giving back the interior and other stuff then you will see who rules kkk. USC is using farmaajo exactly like SNM was using dahir riyale kahin until they sort out their problems. hey im not breaking my fast i dont think your fasting and have no problem with dhulbahante stay away from me im analyst i state facts. cabdi caynte the political adviser of your so called president and the new ambassador to the UK will be the head of the negotiation team with SL he want to host it in the UK, he is very HAGist more than garguurte. they r waiting the SL elections and its agreement with khatumo. Federal somalia consists 5 states north will be part of the country but with own govt and parliament just like zanzibar come back at me when your part of the SFG!

cry me ariver xaarwaadle. dhulos are bigger and have more land than ur unknown clan of ignoble lineage. we can join our harti brothers in pl but we say no cuz we will carve out our won destiny with our balls.! now go back to ur amisom sugar daddies where the big bois of darood are concerned a xaarwaadle shouldnt be involved

your every thing you said for someone like you who is under the occupation of another clan its natural to suffer from inferiority complex. im fasting nakala leexi i dont wanna go to your level also i have no problems with dhulbahante who dont belong to koonfur politics.

kkkkkk ur under occupation of abgaal and have o wasiirs and 2 seats in parliament. Take ur LLL and get ur ignoble unknown and unheard of clan outta here. where the big sharks of darood are talking a little xarwaadle must not take part.

[sahal80]

astaghfurullah i have made huge insults bc of this troll and deleted. i coppied and will post them if he come back to me.

[Adali]

it is the real truth that majority of mogadihsu people 75 percent support farmajo.i dont see the issue here.

sxb xamar is not different than garowe

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

I remember when people were saying that only IDP's in Xamar were supporting Farmaajo during the election, seems like the haters are deploying the same tactics again.

EVEN if they are IDP's, what is wrong with that? Are they not citizens of the country who need to be helped and expect something from their government? Like what is it exactly a pejorative or a put down that an IDP person can go ahead and give their support to their government? Isn't the government being judged on how they can help the least among the people?

I have recently recognized this guy Sahal is the worst example of a Third-world mindset. He is a very reer baadiye guy when it comes to civilized understanding about governance.

He was wrong about the presidential election saying even on election night that it would be between Sheekh Sharif and Hassan Sheikh. He was wrong on who would be Prime Minister even on the day the Prime Minister was named. He was wrong just couple days ago on Fahad Yasiin not getting any post minutes before the guy was named Chief of Staff.

He is basically wrong on everything, yet continues to bring the worst examples of third world mindset about government; never anything about policy, but always some backward coffee shop type rumors having to do with division.

Look at this very topic. The President is celebrating 100 days of his goverenment. His Prime Minsiter is there. The ministers are there. The mayor of Mogadishu is there. Basically everybody who is in government is there supporting the President. Yet, somehow, the Prime Minister supporting his President is an example of him being the real power over the one he is supporting.

Waxaan waa iska reer baadiye I have recently recognized based on his poor English, backward mentality, and third world understanding of governance. I wouldn't take anything he says to be of any value.

Sxb surely you can't be that naive. What sahal meant is the IDPS where being used for that political stunt. Many where promised food aid and some where promised $ 20 If they showed up. It's not like they willilngly showed up. So it's wrong to use vulnerable people in that way. A women even died and others got unconscious.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

in your dreams if you think our army will be liberating you from isaaq. go ask JL and PL for a help they have their own armies why now someone can liberate you when they always been there? this is a federal somalia and farmaajo will always stay magan at his dayniile inlaws he has no authority on hiiraan we have our president and he cant mess with it.

even sanbaliolshe said he cant stay for a night in xamar if the people become against him, therefore i was stating his interm IDPS

instead of becoming busy on hawadle who lead a federal state why not fix yourself your leader is in awdal i guess and farmaajo cant not deal with you its a fact only you can fix yourself oohinta badan iska dhaaf.




voltage stating the facts does not make me reer baadiye. its a murursade govt be thankful for giving you ceremonial post. they made him a pm, then made him a president and rule via their pm and hassan macalin daljir leader. la taliyaha aminga whos hassan macalins brother has informed huirshabelle two days ago that thet cant hold a banadir conference in balcad in july. what has this murursade vs abgaal war got to do with mx? i dont come to your threads why you care about my posts if you believe in freedom? i dont forget im talking about gedo governor you reer baadiye in lafaha!


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/bc.marfe ... re-abgaal/

waryaa cry me a river. ur langaab xaaraadle clan will be karbaashed hadaay maqayaad ciyaarta ka dhaafi wayaan. wa billahi towfiiq. waad kibirteen i found out this langaab clan because of u. im a sub sub sub clan of darood so for me to be contemplating for my own federal stae speaks volumes. hirshabeele is abgaal dominated sxb cut the crap. and if cali khaliif was our leader he would have named one tuulo to his name but he catn anyone took him serious except some ictiraaflanders.kkkk. the satus quo will remain.

hawadle r bigger than dhulbahante and you calling them laangaab kkkk how abgaal is dominating Hiirshabelle? hawadle r f-king political alite they r silent now bc the abgaals stayed away from their hiraab shit at the same time it will empwer their position infront of the govt. HG and murursade r teaming up after their failed hiraab conference. thats why khayre had a meeting with HG and xaaf.. there will be a reshuffle in wich HG will be giving back the interior and other stuff then you will see who rules kkk. USC is using farmaajo exactly like SNM was using dahir riyale kahin until they sort out their problems. hey im not breaking my fast i dont think your fasting and have no problem with dhulbahante stay away from me im analyst i state facts. cabdi caynte the political adviser of your so called president and the new ambassador to the UK will be the head of the negotiation team with SL he want to host it in the UK, he is very HAGist more than garguurte. they r waiting the SL elections and its agreement with khatumo. Federal somalia consists 5 states north will be part of the country but with own govt and parliament just like zanzibar come back at me when your part of the SFG!

Lol are you seriously saying Abgaal holds no weight in Hirshabelle? Isn't osoble the one who is working for Abgaal interests? Like Banaadir maqaam, port and airport in Middle shabelle.

[sahal80]

waryaa cry me a river. ur langaab xaaraadle clan will be karbaashed hadaay maqayaad ciyaarta ka dhaafi wayaan. wa billahi towfiiq. waad kibirteen i found out this langaab clan because of u. im a sub sub sub clan of darood so for me to be contemplating for my own federal stae speaks volumes. hirshabeele is abgaal dominated sxb cut the crap. and if cali khaliif was our leader he would have named one tuulo to his name but he catn anyone took him serious except some ictiraaflanders.kkkk. the satus quo will remain.

hawadle r bigger than dhulbahante and you calling them laangaab kkkk how abgaal is dominating Hiirshabelle? hawadle r f-king political alite they r silent now bc the abgaals stayed away from their hiraab shit at the same time it will empwer their position infront of the govt. HG and murursade r teaming up after their failed hiraab conference. thats why khayre had a meeting with HG and xaaf.. there will be a reshuffle in wich HG will be giving back the interior and other stuff then you will see who rules kkk. USC is using farmaajo exactly like SNM was using dahir riyale kahin until they sort out their problems. hey im not breaking my fast i dont think your fasting and have no problem with dhulbahante stay away from me im analyst i state facts. cabdi caynte the political adviser of your so called president and the new ambassador to the UK will be the head of the negotiation team with SL he want to host it in the UK, he is very HAGist more than garguurte. they r waiting the SL elections and its agreement with khatumo. Federal somalia consists 5 states north will be part of the country but with own govt and parliament just like zanzibar come back at me when your part of the SFG!

Lol are you seriously saying Abgaal holds no weight in Hirshabelle? Isn't osoble the one who is working for Abgaal interests? Like Banaadir maqaam, port and airport in Middle shabelle.

i told you osoble boss is mp qoono who's a dirty kind of omar hashi. omar hashi is the only non abgaal who become the governor of banadir between 1991-1993. in 1998-1999 baledweyne conference he was elected as the chairman of the new USC aka SCC and maxamed dheere jowhar governor was his deputy. remember i used to say in the 90s there was deep hawadle-warsangali abgaal unity professor geedi also attended this conference he mentions in his wiki so had garguurte left for them waa la kala tuuri lahaa because we had previous experiance. mohamed dheere weapons used to come from ethiopia via baledweyne. then omar hashi and sheikh sharif from asmara to djibouti after he left hassan dahir group he went with him to baledweyne so qoono is playing this role now but he takes money from abgaal and gives it to ali osoble. remember isoble ws aligned with ugaas hassan, goodax and sanbaloolshe against garguurte during the mp elections how can he now retreats back? its they r playing the hashi leadership role and this gathering is independent from hiraab. they said we dont need the govt why not use this position wich will make us more stronger infront of the govt(baadida nin baa kula daydaya kaana daal badane!)

so Ugas hassan and goodah who represent the clan position have become silent about it. you heard mudulood meeting but you will never heat hiraab meeting HG was pushing for this conference and it has failed. come back to me the day this happens and i will show you ali osoble engaging with the govt!

new hiirshabelle; hawadle vision, the right path for abgaal after all only hawadle and abgaal did not vote for farmaajo. the new hiirshabelle is about a unity and cooperation. basically hawadle manage their hiiraan by their own and abgaals manage their jowhar by their own but the new vision wich is free from hiraabnimo belongs to hawadle. we r not against HG but this house belongs to us we can cooperate as hiirshabelle and Galmudug. this is different than when guleed, mahad salaad and odowaa were putting were making problems for hawadle. remember when they wrote in gudiga farsamada 2 HG, 1 haaadle kkkk waxaas waa waxa maanta HG dhigay meeshey taalo!

http://m.irinnews.org/report/8064/somal ... leQ7RkeLqC


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maalmood ayaa lagu soo gabagabeeyey magaalada Beletweyne ee Waddanka
Hiiraan bishii July 2. Magaca Ururka Golaha Wada Tashiga Soomaaliyeed.
Somali Consultative Counsil (S.C.C)
Magacyada Ugaasyada

1. Ugaas Khalif Ugaas Rooble
2. Ugaas Cabduqaadir Ugas Xaashi
3. Ugaas Cabdullahi Ugaas Maxamed
4. Suldaan Cali Suldaan Axmed Nuur
5. Wabar Xassan Wabar Kutubow
6. Ugaas Cali Ugaas Xassan Raage
7. Ugaas Cabdixakiim Ugaas Maxad
8. Wabar Axmed Wabar Cabdi
9. Ugaas Maxamed Ugaas sheekh Shafeec

Magacyada Guddiga Ururka:

1. Colenel Cumar Xaashi Aadan (Guddoomiye)
2. Mudane Maxamed Cumar Maxamed "Maxamed Dheere" (guddoomiye ku
Xiggeenka arrimaha siyaasada)
3. Colenel Cabdullahi Maxamud Samatar "Black" (" " " " "
difaaca iyo nabedgalyada)
4. Colonel Aden Axmed Cabdi "koryeeri" (" " " " "
arrimaha bulshada)
5. Eng. Garaad Cismaan Cumar (" " " " "
maaliyada iyo dhaqaalaha)
6. Mudane Cabdullahi Cabdi Soomane (" " " " "
dib u dhiska iyo dib u heshiisinta)
7. Mudane Maxamuud Cabdullahi Xuseen "Cadawe" ( Xoghayaha Guud)
8. Colonel Maxamed Cumar Maxamud (K. Xoghayaha)
9. Mudane Ibraahim Maxamed Diiriye (K. Xoghayaha)
10. Colonel Aden Farax Maxamed (K. Xoghayaha)
11. Mudane Sheekh Ibraahim X. Cismaan (K. Xoghayaha)




in mid 2000s as afhayeenka labada golo he did his best to host the parliament in mogadishu not in baydhabo

http://www.somalitalk.com/2006/feb/15m106.html

http://www.bbc.com/somali/news/story/20 ... isho.shtml

[Voltage]

I remember when people were saying that only IDP's in Xamar were supporting Farmaajo during the election, seems like the haters are deploying the same tactics again.

EVEN if they are IDP's, what is wrong with that? Are they not citizens of the country who need to be helped and expect something from their government? Like what is it exactly a pejorative or a put down that an IDP person can go ahead and give their support to their government? Isn't the government being judged on how they can help the least among the people?

I have recently recognized this guy Sahal is the worst example of a Third-world mindset. He is a very reer baadiye guy when it comes to civilized understanding about governance.

He was wrong about the presidential election saying even on election night that it would be between Sheekh Sharif and Hassan Sheikh. He was wrong on who would be Prime Minister even on the day the Prime Minister was named. He was wrong just couple days ago on Fahad Yasiin not getting any post minutes before the guy was named Chief of Staff.

He is basically wrong on everything, yet continues to bring the worst examples of third world mindset about government; never anything about policy, but always some backward coffee shop type rumors having to do with division.

Look at this very topic. The President is celebrating 100 days of his goverenment. His Prime Minsiter is there. The ministers are there. The mayor of Mogadishu is there. Basically everybody who is in government is there supporting the President. Yet, somehow, the Prime Minister supporting his President is an example of him being the real power over the one he is supporting.

Waxaan waa iska reer baadiye I have recently recognized based on his poor English, backward mentality, and third world understanding of governance. I wouldn't take anything he says to be of any value.

Sxb surely you can't be that naive. What sahal meant is the IDPS where being used for that political stunt. Many where promised food aid and some where promised $ 20 If they showed up. It's not like they willilngly showed up. So it's wrong to use vulnerable people in that way. A women even died and others got unconscious.

I respect you Warsheekh, but you are naive in this. The IDP card was used against Farmaajo during the campaign and when we saw the Somali respond to him during his election, we saw it was a cynical ploy to discredit the man. These are not even IDP, they are people of Mogadishu. People of Mogadishu are not monolithic. It's a city of more than a million people. You mean to tell me Farmaajo, the guy whose support from Mogadishu we saw was so different from any other president, couldn't get out a few thousand people to support him in an event?

It's a ridiculous.

And even if they are IDP, so what? IDPS are people who are citizens of the country and can support their country just as anyone else.

The guy Sahal is just a reer baadiye with coffee shop views about Somalia going into the future.

[xiimaaya]

Hutus don't make me post Faarmajo beating the hell out of hutu in xamar..

Mashallah siyaad bare ba so noqoday

[TheNewElectedWarLord]

cry me ariver xaarwaadle. dhulos are bigger and have more land than ur unknown clan of ignoble lineage. we can join our harti brothers in pl but we say no cuz we will carve out our won destiny with our balls.! now go back to ur amisom sugar daddies where the big bois of darood are concerned a xaarwaadle shouldnt be involved

your every thing you said for someone like you who is under the occupation of another clan its natural to suffer from inferiority complex. im fasting nakala leexi i dont wanna go to your level also i have no problems with dhulbahante who dont belong to koonfur politics.

kkkkkk ur under occupation of abgaal and have o wasiirs and 2 seats in parliament. Take ur LLL and get ur ignoble unknown and unheard of clan outta here. where the big sharks of darood are talking a little xarwaadle must not take part.

am I witnessing dhulbahante telling xawadle they're langaab and occupied? This is definitely the opposite Lmaooo. Dhulbahante is occupied by isaaq and is little sub-clan
And even if Xawadle was occupied by Abgal at least they're from the same clan lol And Of course, Xawadle is 2 times the size of little langaab Dhulbahante. Xawadle has the president and vice president of hirshabeele state of somalia while Dhulbahante is pro somaliland one day and the other day pro-Somalia just to survive
That is all I have to say, Lmaoo I'm still laughing how little dhilobahante is telling xawadle is langaab in Snet.