ma edada Sumaya ts ayaa waxa ku bartay khanisyahow? and are you really acting tough after what happen in 2007? dhabacyo af ka nool you aint but naago
In 2007 Dhulbahante were fighting us .
Before that you didnt move an inch towards us , no wounder you start this shit when most of the soldiers went to south .
Today you cant repeat what you did in 2007 and in last clash in sanaag was good signal to you .
Next time stick to your lands , daroods lands are not you concern .
dhabacyo dont you have any shame, why do you keep lying?
qurjiile didnt lift a hand it was all somaliland forces as it clear in the video
all they did is thank us for our liberation. and sanaag clash? negro please last thing I remember is your women crying and calaacaling in garowe about SL. as I said it before dhabacyo you aint but naago faanaya
In 2007 we know who fight us and betray us , nigger please without baharsamiii today you wouldnt stand a foot in LA .
Markaas stop the faan and kiss baharsamii foot .
Regarding sanaag you didnt sit a foot in bari sanaag since Riyaale .
Even Siilaanyo came to laasqoray at early morning and run after couple of hour before PL reach his location .
Thtas the absolute worst thing that we can do.
They are currently divided and demoralized and are starting to consider their options seriously.
In the mean time you have their worst clannists praying for us to do exactly that. real violence against them.
This will energize and unite them, if we treat them with kid gloves and court them we win.
If afweyne treated us the same we would still be under his rule or the rule of his son today.
An Eeydoor that understands the game. Clearly a united Dhulbahante (let alone Harti, or even Daarood) is a major threat to Isaaq, forget about a single Eeydoor sub-clan. That being said, Jaalle Siyaad's government fell due to inter-Daarood rivalry and the whole Daarood vs Hawiye catastrophe that took place. If Isaaq really had anything to do with it, you wouldn't have lost Burco and Hargeisa after seizing it for few weeks with the full military and financial support of Ethiopia and other world powers. lol
The Kacaan collapsed because of Daarood and Hawiye, the two largest Somali clans. Their unity can break or make Somalia.
You like living in your own fantasy land.
Afweynes regime lost because of his obsession with Isaaq, 3/4 of the entire armed forces where in the north.
After 1989 he should have realized that that been 8 years and he still has no control over the north, only burco and hargiesa and berbera. With the USC and SPM forming logic would dictate that the only winning move was to pull all forces out of hargiesa and burco, and reinforce berbera and shiekh. The SNM did not have the equipment to take on an entrenched force, but were easily suffocating and starving the army in burco. Arm dhulos , warsengli and gadabursi then move most of the army back to xamar.
In 1990 USC found the way to xamar wide open, the tiny forces left in the south were easily manhandled and they just walked to xamar with little opposition.
Thank god for afweynes blind obsession with fighting isaaq .
Imagine if he made the right moves? We would still be fighting in the late 90's and the government would have probably fallen by 2001 instead of 1991.
From 1981 to 1991, the Isaaq rebel group (SNM) were not able to control anything, other than run around in the bushes between the Somalia-Ethiopia border. In early 1989, after the formations of SPM (Ogaden) and USC (Hawiye) factions, the Hawiye and Ogaden soldiers in the Kacaan defected. They began to aid the SNM. Huge weapons and defected soldiers (now wearing civilian cloth) began to move southwards and the operation to invade the capital initially started in early 1990.
If it wasn't for the civil war that ravaged between Hawiye and Daarood, the SNM would've not been in control of Hargeisa and Burco today. In fact, like I said earlier, Hawiye and Daarood unity is what makes or breaks Somalia. Their actions determine what the future holds for Somalia.
If Isaaq (SNM) had an iota's weight of power and strength, they would've toppled the government between 1981 to 1990. The government collapsed after the Hawiye vs Daarood civil war happened in southern Somalia, primarily in the capital. Then it continued to escalate due to inter-hawiye civil war and inter-daarood civil war.
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:07 am
by PanSomaliNationalist
What are y'all gonna do about eastern Sanaag though
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:25 pm
by Xildiiid
This crossdresser with the name '26June1960' truly loves alternative history.
The SNM controlled majority of SL by 1989, the year when USC and SPM were created.
The reason why Afweynes regime wasn't toppled earlier was because of a lifeline called US military and economic aid. By 1989 he was abandoned by the US government after a report indicating that Afweyne was indiscriminately targeting civilians from the Isaaq clan using artillery and aerial bombardment with US weapons and money. Without military + economic aid and 2/3 of his army anihilated in SL by the SNM, he fled the capital in 1991 after his personal guards, the red berets, couldn't handle USC.
Afweyne even gave up the occupied territories in exchange for a peace treaty with Ethiopia against the SNM.
The SNM faced 26th division, 21th division, clan militias and foreign mercenaries.
What army units did the USC and SPM face? The SPM militia, that youre bragging about, were defeated by Raxanweyn farmers who were armed with bows and arrows.
The well- equipped SPM were driven out of Baidoa by the civilians whose only weapons were bows and arrows.
Darood and Hawiye are united today and they're so weak that they're being protected by 30.000 foreign troops. The actions of these two clans for the last 26 years have destroyed the name of the Somali ethnic group. The Buttland pirates recently lost 61 soldiers in a single attack by AS.
You're in no position to compare yourselves to Duriyadda.
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:38 pm
by Xildiiid
Rebel militiamen belonging to the Somali National Movement, fighting the regime of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre, load an anti-aircraft twins cannon near the town of Zeila, northern Somalia in October 1989. Barre's regime was overthrown in January 1991.
Agence France Presse (AFP) journalist Michel Sailhan (L) and photo-journalist
Alexander Joe (C) ride October 1989 in a boat next to a rebel militiaman belonging
to the Somali National Movement, fighting the regime of dictator Mohamed Siad Barre,
patrolling at the sea front near Zeila, northern Somalia in October 1989.
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:05 pm
by Ben Dover
SNM.
The achievement of our heroes can never be overstated. No one expected us to win. You should read Western intelligence reports from that era, everyone and their mother was banking on Afweyne defeating the SNM. From Western governments bankrolling Afweyne, to Ethiopia kicking us out, to all Somali clans leaving us out to dry, to Afweyne himself believing the Isaaq could be ethnically cleansed from their land and replaced with Cagdheer. But in the face of overwhelming odds we have prevailed.
The achievement of our heroes can never be overstated. No one expected us to win. You should read Western intelligence reports from that era, everyone and their mother was banking on Afweyne defeating the SNM. From Western governments bankrolling Afweyne, to Ethiopia kicking us out, to all Somali clans leaving us out to dry, to Afweyne himself believing the Isaaq could be ethnically cleansed from their land and replaced with Cagdheer. But in the face of overwhelming odds we have prevailed.
This is the stuff of legend my friends.
The SNM will live forever.
Indeed, they are one of the most disciplined rebels I ever read about, You guys should watch xusuus reeb interview with Cabdilahi dirawal I admire that Mujaahid like no one else. He participated the liberation of Berbera, Hargeisa, gebiley, borama and zaylac. He cleansed faqash remains in borama he proceeded and cracked down ciise rebels in saylac . Egal awarded him the minister of defense during the civil war and he defeated the isaaq rebels against cigaal, then he became the minister of of rehabilitation and disarmed all isaaq clan militias. What a victories.
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:09 pm
by Brigadier12
in addition to that Cabdilaahi dirawal destroyed all Ethiopian (Ogaden and Oromo) refugee camps for a reason you will know if you watch that xusuus reeb interview.
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:21 pm
by Brigadier12
Xildiiid wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:25 pm
This crossdresser with the name '26June1960' truly loves alternative history.
The SNM controlled majority of SL by 1989, the year when USC and SPM were created.
The reason why Afweynes regime wasn't toppled earlier was because of a lifeline called US military and economic aid. By 1989 he was abandoned by the US government after a report indicating that Afweyne was indiscriminately targeting civilians from the Isaaq clan using artillery and aerial bombardment with US weapons and money. Without military + economic aid and 2/3 of his army anihilated in SL by the SNM, he fled the capital in 1991 after his personal guards, the red berets, couldn't handle USC.
Afweyne even gave up the occupied territories in exchange for a peace treaty with Ethiopia against the SNM.
The SNM faced 26th division, 21th division, clan militias and foreign mercenaries.
What army units did the USC and SPM face? The SPM militia, that youre bragging about, were defeated by Raxanweyn farmers who were armed with bows and arrows.
The well- equipped SPM were driven out of Baidoa by the civilians whose only weapons were bows and arrows.
Darood and Hawiye are united today and they're so weak that they're being protected by 30.000 foreign troops. The actions of these two clans for the last 26 years have destroyed the name of the Somali ethnic group. The Buttland pirates recently lost 61 soldiers in a single attack by AS.
You're in no position to compare yourselves to Duriyadda.
inaadeerkay Mr bad attitude guess who the fuck I am. I salute You waa loo baahanyahay isaaq aan jixinjixin, igu salaan Adeerkeen marna macalinkeena Dr Xplaya. also Mujahid Ben Dover the Cali Bari veteran, that guy was born to fight, there is no doubt that habarjeclo is led by their smallest in terms of numbers. Ninkka isaaq ee aan gaalkeenaa Dr X tixgelin siin aabihii Ku wasa. no matter how we are different , we are Isaaqs and the only thing that unites us is the Nationhood of Somaliland and the general dignity of our Isaaq peaple. allaw idin dhawr. Thank you
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:15 am
by X.Playa
ZubeirAwal wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:05 pm
In order to quell this rather annoying spirit of theirs, I think the only solution is to show them the strong hand, Buhoodle is a perfect place for that.
You must be wondering how did the Sayid get these people to shake their booty for him even 100 years later, the answer is, he showed them the strong hand, he initially treated them like a bitch and took their xoolo as much as he wanted, they were so afraid they sent their sons to fight for him.
We should not have a policy of bribing their leaders, the only way to deliver the message is to demoralise them by showing them superior strength right before their eyes.
So in Buhoodle you have a small militia, 5,000 somaliland troops with artillery should be able to destroy their heavy weapons, and then publicly arrest their soldiers and execute them.
I can see this if bixi becomes president.
Now you see the light son.
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:17 am
by FBISOMALIA
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PL in Cayn
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:41 am
by Adali
Tijoux wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:14 pm
stupied eydoor maxaa uu maaleysay inuu dhulbante kaaligis dashay? Reer buuhodle are not alone if thats what u think, you will get ur ass raped boii
This iidoor faggot is a publically known ladyboy, he gets his shit pushed in by jamaicans in London.
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:45 am
by Adali
HashIII wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:22 pm
It is always strange seeing muslims call for the killing of fellow muslims purely for the benefit of their clan.
It's always the weak and pathetic loners in the west that call for war, their life is miserable yet they pray for war back home among muslims, subxanallah, the guy who started this thread is qaniis ladyboy, he would not be fighting anyone but his dildo in the shower.
Re: The answer to the dhulbahante equation
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:04 pm
by Xildiiid
Adali don't project your reality. You're the one making up threads about imgainery women that you've encountered. Khaniisku intaan khaniis lagu odhan ayuu isagu dadka kale khaniis ku yidhaa.
Dhabacyo,
Why can't Pussyland retake Kalshaale? Wheres their presence in Qorilugud? Pussyland have few loyalists in the border town Buhoodle and your Vice President have to travel through Ethiopia to reach that border town. So much for your empty bravado.