How Western civilisation could collapse

[Basra-]

This guy Thomas Homer-Dixon is predicting that Western civilisation might collapse. I haven't read his book but apparently he predicted some events according to the article.

"Some of these forecasts and early warning signs should sound familiar, precisely because they are already underway. While Homer-Dixon is not surprised at the world’s recent turn of events – he predicted some of them in his 2006 book – he didn’t expect these developments to occur before the mid-2020s."

So by the time Somalia recovers, the West might collapse.


http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2017041 ... d-collapse

gurey


Sorry to burst your bubble. The West is here to stay. U see-- Your dream wish would have happened had it not be the power of the American Constitution. The day the American founding fathers invented the constitution, they invented their salvation. The constitution is the most single important document that checks and controls human nature next to the bible and the Quran/koran!

[gurey25]

lol constitution? you mean the one that is pissed on by those in power on a regular basis.
your holy constitution died along time ago and the last vestiges of the republic have withered .
gullibility , ignorance and combined with boundless optimism of americans never ceases to amaze me.
have they started puting prozac in the water supply now?

by the way if you read my post i said the west will not collapse., not yet.

[paperino]

All you have to do is realise that everything is built on absolute lies.

Cite 3 examples of those lies.

[Basra-]

lol constitution? you mean the one that is pissed on by those in power on a regular basis.
your holy constitution died along time ago and the last vestiges of the republic have withered .
gullibility , ignorance and combined with boundless optimism of americans never ceases to amaze me.
have they started puting prozac in the water supply now?

by the way if you read my post i said the west will not collapse., not yet.

gurey@loooool



You know--ever since Edward Gibbon wrote the collapse of Rome history--mankind have always dreamt of a similar collapse. They wait with unabated breath!


The Romans just like other pillaging empire collapsed becaused they were in the wrong. They were pillaging nations and gaining goods through immoral ways. How can God bless their empire? America is a free nation, founded on principles of liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We have checked systems that check itself and is mandated by the constitution. We have a multicultural nation as opposed to other empires where indigenous race ruled. We have our worldly used currency with the inscription-- IN GOD WE TRUST.......dear gurey---no matter how much u wish it---it WILL NEVER Happen. Look at u--u have gone from posts where on a daily basis u were declaring the US Will fall, the dollar will fall--to a changed tune of ---"Not yet"! Funny!

[gurey25]

Basra your naivity is so funny.
I never said the US will collapse , i was talking about the hegemony of the Dollar, infact ive said more than once that a crash of dollar hegemony will most likely lead to a re-invigorated and stronger US economy.
It just will not be ruling the world.

The US and even EU have so many advantages that even if you are deliberately trying to wreck their economies it will take a long time and would be too difficult.

It the current economic system that will crash and it will fall on its own accord.

Even the British empire fell and along with its gold standard system based in the city of london.
They lasted nearly 100 years despite this system being even more unstable than the current on today.

It been 46 years since the current system came into effect and it barley surviving, only continuing because China doesnt have an alternative in place yet and is spending allot of resources and effort keeping it alive.
The Bretton woods system lasted from 1946 to 1971 just 25 years and it could have lead to a disaster if the Soviets were not lead by senile leaders completely ignorant about economics an trade.

Its funny how you mention Rome and Edward Gibbon, have you even read the book?
What doomed rome was the concentration of resources and wealth into ever smaller and smaller hands, leading to a feudal system towards the end.
Every empire at its start is egalitarian and relatively free and then starts to decline when its not.

[Basra-]

gurey


I think u mistake over load of nonsense information as 'lack of naivety' ! Huuno learn how to use your brain.



Fact# 1 America is not an 'Empire". U cant compare it with the British Colony! We are not pillaging and taking other people resources to enrich ourselves.

Fact# 2 US dollar is here to stay. Our structural system and our political stable system will guarantee its survival.


Fact#3 China is not a threat to USA. They have reached their point of upwardness. Now they are going downwardness lol

[gurey25]

I can see how facts can be mistaken for nonsense information, when they dont fit your fantasy world.

American not an Empire? are you serious? the US is more of an empire than the british empire, the reach with its over 500 bases is an order of magnitude higher than the British Empire at its height, and the same with the level of economic and political control.
The only fact is that it doesnt call itself an empire.

The Dollar is in decline, mainly due to runway debt but also due to abuse of power by the US in overusing sanctions.
Countries are trading without use of dollar. Dollar hegemony has already crashed in 1971 with the collapse of bretton woods,
the new system is already passed its use by date and the only thing keeping it alive is that there is no alternative currently.
This will change within our lifetime because the "Adults" working on it, by this i mean the worlds central banks along with China.


China hasnt even reached its growth potential country and its already well on its way to meet its own target of "moderately wealthy country".The transition to a more service oriented consumer economy, based on internal consumption is back on scheduale. The percentage of trade in the chinese economy is already winding down towards just 10%.

[Basra-]

Gurey

Can u go look up the definition of an empire? N post it here for mem lol


Us dollar will not go down as long as usa exists. The very beauty of the dollar is its political stability people depend on it.

China right now is trying to uplift africa n the rest of the world so that usa economy doesnt stay strong lol. But China is discounting the perfect system of the usa political constitution. In God we trust

[James Dahl]

Yeah as Gurey has already said, the West is not ruling the world, the West are ourselves enslaved like everyone else to the banks.

The US exists to further the interests of the global financial system, which controls both of the major parties.

[Saar]

There will never an Asian empire lol

The sooner you people realize they are but buffer nations and are also played like pawns the less idiotic you will sound. Nobody makes a move without the west's knowledge.

The world is ruled by a fierce-less and tribalist white men who dominate every aspect of your life through debt bondage and control of the most powerful military in the world.

These men are so far ahead of the game and they made you believe that it's the individual over the collective while they themselves practice white collective supremacy. Did you guys read about the dumb mexican priest who voted for trump only to be deported this week. lol...that's the rest of the world in a nutshell. Crabs in a bucket.

[Basra-]

There will never an Asian empire lol

The sooner you people realize they are but buffer nations and are also played like pawns the less idiotic you will sound. Nobody makes a move without the west's knowledge.

The world is ruled by a fierce-less and tribalist white men who dominate every aspect of your life through debt bondage and control of the most powerful military in the world.

These men are so far ahead of the game and they made you believe that it's the individual over the collective while they themselves practice white collective supremacy. Did you guys read about the dumb mexican priest who voted for trump only to be deported this week. lol...that's the rest of the world in a nutshell. Crabs in a bucket.

Saar


I am so glad u have joined my camp. You and I have something in common now. We both believe in the supremacy of the White. Just as God Ordained!



James


Your thoughts are so simple and rudimentary ! Do you ever have an original thought?

[gurey25]

So basra i assume you believe you are white?

if not then you are a willing servant to those your believe are our superiors.

[Gaashaanle1000]

There will never an Asian empire lol

The sooner you people realize they are but buffer nations and are also played like pawns the less idiotic you will sound. Nobody makes a move without the west's knowledge.

The world is ruled by a fierce-less and tribalist white men who dominate every aspect of your life through debt bondage and control of the most powerful military in the world.

These men are so far ahead of the game and they made you believe that it's the individual over the collective while they themselves practice white collective supremacy. Did you guys read about the dumb mexican priest who voted for trump only to be deported this week. lol...that's the rest of the world in a nutshell. Crabs in a bucket.

You know even though you choose to insult me every chance you get it seems, sometimes your intelligence makes me want to kiss you through the computer screen.

Despite your stance on Islam, which I think you will grow out of with more knowledge.

[Gaashaanle1000]

All you have to do is realise that everything is built on absolute lies.

Cite 3 examples of those lies.

The monetary system is a lie,

1.Fiat currency built on the peoples trust literally. It has nothing backing it up!

2.The education system teaches nothing but lies, namely his story (the white supremacy story) and is built on half truths like science which is actually an occult religion, especially the theory of evolution. The education system only seeks to destroy knowledge and autonomy.

3. Global warming is a lie, created to exploit nations!

All you need to do is turn on the television (if you still own one, which is your own death) and sit back and enjoy the lies!

[Lion104]

The west will not collapse , the parasitic entity that has taken over government in the west will collapse due to its inherent contradictions. If the plan for WW3 to cancel all unpayable debts and start again is prevented they will recede back to how they were in the 40's and 50's and return to government control.
The french refer to the period after WW2 as Trente Glorieuses, the 30 years of prosperity.
This is the period of the German economic miracle, the Japanese and basicaly all of western Europe.
What they all have in common was that they were all democratic and socialist in one way or another.
The banks were also beasts of burden like donkeys, and governments were the drivers, today the banks are the driver and the governments are the donkeys.

suprisingly the bankers seem to have launched a coordinated takeover of all the west between 1971 and 1974.
This cooincides with the petrodollar and the end of the 30 years boom.
Its wierd that within 2 years every single western european country and even canada , Australia and New zealand all had specific laws banning the government from ever issuing money on its own using public credit, all money issued has to be loaned from banks.
At exactly the same time in all the same countries all the banks started to experiment with derivatives.
The period between 1971 ans 1974 is really interesting.

This current point in history we're living in is only temporary. I don't believe that it will last long. We are living in the most peaceful era in the history of humankind, but soon it will be the most violent era which will kill off 95 % of the population.