Will Ethiopia tolerate a rising strong Somali state next door?

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Re: Will Ethiopia tolerate a rising strong Somali state next door?

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I have known that Somali "leaders" are full of shit since year dot....iidoor, Darood et al worthless eaters to a man. :)
There is no real solution.....we'll continue with the status quo indefinitely.
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Re: Will Ethiopia tolerate a rising strong Somali state next door?

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You have to have hope.
I see a bright spot in the south though.
Their civil society and institutions are more primitive than somaliland but their rate of development is faster.
The way they are going with in a few years they will overtake somaliland.
There is less oligarchs control over the economy so there is more competition and more growth.

Corruption is more advanced in the south though, while your average somaliland minister steals a couple million dollars a year minimum, they are taking home ten times. That in the south.

The wealth in private hands is obscene we are talking about a few billion dollars at least from a dozen families from the north alone in offshore accounts.

We could have privatised Berbera and built, railways and power stations, instead they prefer to park that money in Djibouti, Kenyan and dubai bank accounts.
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Re: Will Ethiopia tolerate a rising strong Somali state next door?

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Things will only change when the educated youth stop fleeing and fight (politically) for a better future.
Change will never come from the old, decrepit and wealthy. :)
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Re: Will Ethiopia tolerate a rising strong Somali state next door?

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Talo alle udaa wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:30 pm As the Somali state begins to stand on it's two feet, the question arises whether Ethiopia will allow or tolerate the development of a strong Somali state. By Ethiopia I mean the current TPLF led.

The strategy laid down by Meles, executed by myriad of self driven political opportunist was one of seeding division and flaming the already volatile Somali tribal feuds since the fall of the Somali state in 91.

However, with the death of Meles, things have changed. Ethiopia itself is mired by deep seated divisions . It's not clear whether Ethiopia has devoted or is even able to give the same attention/concentration it once did. It appears the current TPLF lead Ethiopia is busy with trying to appease it's Large Oromo/Ahmara population to keep the current order of things.

The question remains whether TPLF led Ethiopia will attempt to sabotage or tolerate a rising Strong Somali state next door.
Can the two live side by side or does the rise of one mean increased instability in the other? What role will regional actors like Somaliland or Puntland play.

These are questions whose answers only time will tell.
I pose this question back in June after seeing the momentum the current Somali government was showing, the enthusiasm and energy emanating from the face of it's supporters as it came to power. The first Major test of this administration, the current political storm it's in, has proven Farmaajo is still a novice--again at risk of loosing power only after being at the helm for few months.

Whether his political career recovers from this only time will tell. However, what is certain without doubt, Somalis will no longer tolerate charlatans who operate with impunity and trample on the dignity and integrity of the people. This tragedy has proven the awakening national conscious of the average Somali was not a fluke and is here to stay permanently.
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