People mentioned in classical somali poetry and their stories.

[BestPlaya]

Ina Caruus(An Arsi Oromo) was killed along with two sheikhs from Ree Cali sub clan in Bulaale .I'm the great grandson of one of them.The men who finished the sheikhs belonged to ree guleed and ree sugulle sub clans of garxajis.Sayyid Cumar ,one of the sheikhs had an ciidagale wife. She lamented saying 'ilma adeerayaalow sheekha haiga dilina' .They arrogantly reprimanded her saying 'Naa Caadhka uun baad rabtaaye kagooso!" They killed them mercilessly the two ree Cali sheikhs and they couldn't even spare the Arsi scholar because he was friend to the Ogaden sheikhs.But they paid the price of their arrogance in Dhurwaale where a ree Cali slaughtered hundreds of Ciidagale warriors .Qawdhan Duale then recited the most famous calaacal poem ever in which he demanded the support of all iidoor sub clans from east (HJ) and those from the west(Sacad muse) besides his garxajis kinsmen all up against REE CALI!

QOWDHAN DUCAALE

Allahayoow siday balaayadu noogu wada baahday
Bawdada iyo Sidan ooga jabnay buuratada lowga
Ma barbaartii baa jaray buubsan jiray geela
Boqol sumac miya naga hadhiyo,baarcaddi wadatatay
Toga baalihiisii miyuu bahalku hiigaayey
Ma bakhtiyay suldanki badhida weyna
----- ---- ----------
Ma burburay ree cabdigu baalka waa sidaye



Excerpt from cabdi Hurre's poem on dhurwaale

--Ree Cali miyaa gabal lsaaq ciilay
--Cabdi Bari miyaa go'ay sidii madag cug loo waayey
-Ma canbaar-cadki baa la jaray curadadii iido
--Caleen jilicday sow ree gobdoon caawa kama liito
--Carfigii miyaa layga riday calankii guudkayga
--Ma CARJABABAY shisheeyuhu baguu caawa leeyahay e


Xeer iyo Gaadsan oo dir ah iyo shiikhaalba waxaa laysku dhahi jiray ree AW.Qolyahan wadaada kameey nabadgalin iidoorka Hasa yeeshe tabar iyo taag eey iska dhiciyaan ma aysan hayn laakin dhowr gabay beey Ku habaareen .waxayna Ku habaareen inuu ilaahay iidoorka baas we cidina kanabad galeyn ilaahay ku ciqaabo Caliyo Haruun wayna dhacday!

Caabudwaaq which is mentioned alongside Xeer iyo gaadsan in Aflows poem are small section that settle with ree isaaq bcoz Cabudwaaq migrated to Kenya long before the Rayad.Currently, they're the most prominent Ogaden clan in NFD along With Auliyahan.

Xplayer soo daa waaxad hayso eynu kaa baranee !lakin diyaar unoqo wixi qalad ah in wajiga lagaaga dhufto lol

[X.Playa]

Ina Caruus(An Arsi Oromo) was killed along with two sheikhs from Ree Cali sub clan in Bulaale .I'm the great grandson of one of them.The men who finished the sheikhs belonged to ree guleed and ree sugulle sub clans of garxajis.Sayyid Cumar ,one of the sheikhs had an ciidagale wife. She lamented saying 'ilma adeerayaalow sheekha haiga dilina' .They arrogantly reprimanded her saying 'Naa Caadhka uun baad rabtaaye kagooso!" They killed them mercilessly the two ree Cali sheikhs and they couldn't even spare the Arsi scholar because he was friend to the Ogaden sheikhs.But they paid the price of their arrogance in Dhurwaale where a ree Cali slaughtered hundreds of Ciidagale warriors .Qawdhan Duale then recited the most famous calaacal poem ever in which he demanded the support of all iidoor sub clans from east (HJ) and those from the west(Sacad muse) his garxajis kinsmen all up against REE CALI!

QOWDHAN DUCAALE

Allahayoow siday balaayadu noogu wada baahday
Bawdada iyo Sidan ooga jabnay buuratada lowga
Ma barbaartii baa jaray buubsan jiray geela
Boqol sumac miya naga hadhiyo,baarcaddi wadatatay
Toga baalihiisii miyuu bahalku hiigaayey
Ma bakhtiyay suldanki badhida weyna
----- ---- ----------
Ma burburay ree cabdigu baalka waa sidaye



Excerpt from cabdi Hurre's poem on dhurwaale

--Ree Cali miyaa gabal lsaaq ciilay
--Cabdi Bari miyaa go'ay sidii madag cug loo waayey
-Ma canbaar-cadki baa la jaray curadadii iido
--Caleen jilicday sow ree gobdoon caawa kama liito
--Carfigii miyaa layga riday calankii guudkayga
--Ma CARJABABAY shisheeyuhu baguu caawa leeyahay e


Xeer iyo Gaadsan oo dir ah iyo shiikhaalba waxaa laysku dhahi jiray ree AW.Qolyahan wadaada kameey nabadgalin iidoorka Hasa yeeshe tabar iyo taag eey iska dhiciyaan ma aysan hayn laakin dhowr gabay beey Ku habaareen .waxayna Ku habaareen inuu ilaahay iidoorka baas we cidina kanabad galeyn ilaahay ku ciqaabo Caliyo Haruun wayna dhacday!

Caabudwaaq which is mentioned alongside Xeer iyo gaadsan in Aflows poem are small section that settle with ree isaaq bcoz Cabudwaaq migrated to Kenya long before the Rayad.Currently, they're the most prominent Ogaden clan in NFD along With Auliyahan.

Xplayer soo daa waaxad hayso eynu kaa baranee !lakin diyaar unoqo wixi qalad ah in wajiga lagaaga dhufto lol

No other ciidagale fought the initial battle only Abdi Ciise and I made sure to point out that Abdi Ciise is Qawadhans great grandfather. Now as a typical been ku nool daarood you are making it though the Reer Cali fought the entire Ciidagale despite that all the poems are referring to fact it was only the Cabdi Ciise.

Ma burburay Reer Cabdigii baalka hayn jiraye.

Or Cabdi Hures poem both are referring to only Cabdi Ciise fighting the ogaden. The only reason Cabdi Hure is mentioning Reer Gobdoon is the fact that around the same time the Arab killed few Reer Gobdoon too.

Waakaa bakhtiyay Suldaankii badhida weynaaye? O don't recall that line was in the above poem no sultan died nor killed in Dhurwaale years later the Ciidagale killed ina Geesoole an Ogaden chief.

Also the first line of Hures poem is not legitimate whoever you wrote that poem from got it wrong.

[BestPlaya]

Xplaya ,both Qowdhan and Ina Hurre mentioned the most hard hit clans with the biggest number of casualties in the Dhurwaale massacre and they are IIDO(Bah iido/ree sultan),Cabdi Bari,Ree Gobdon.....as for the line MA BURBURAY REE CABDIGU BAALKA WAA SIDAY E shows that Ree Cabdi(Bah iido+Cabdi Barri) are the laandhere and leaders of Ciidagale ...

In his other calaacal poem in which Qawdhan seeks the help of other iidoor clans he mentions the laandhere and the leaders of Ree Cali ,the ree fiqi cigaal who were the biggest nightmare of the Ciidagale... Qawdhan says DHUXDHUXLAYNA REE FIQI CIQAAL HAYGU DHIRIYEENE

Ina Beenaley reciting a poem about Dhurwaale in which he said a famous line ..BAGA OO BAGA HADII REE SULDAAN BAABAH LAGAYEELAY..

ina Tarabi mentions ree fiqi cigaal as ruthless warriors who according to him wouldn't had any respect for Sacad muuse if it was not the garxajis ...he says ..CARRAANDHIRIYE REE FIQI CIGAAL KUMA CISEEYENE--

So ,Dhurwaale incident was between Ciidagale lead by Ree Cabdi and Ree Cali lead by Ree Fiqi Cigaal.And l don't expect from you to come back with a ridiculous claim saying Ree Cabdi or Ree Sugulle fought against the entire Ogaden!.

Still your posts have some meaningful tidbits.

[X.Playa]

Xplaya ,both Qowdhan and Ina Hurre mentioned the most hard hit clans with the biggest number of casualties in the Dhurwaale massacre and they are IIDO(Bah iido/ree sultan),Cabdi Bari,Ree Gobdon.....as for the line MA BURBURAY REE CABDIGU BAALKA WAA SIDAY E shows that Ree Cabdi(Bah iido+Cabdi Barri) are the laandhere and leaders of Ciidagale ...

In his other calaacal poem in which Qawdhan seeks the help of other iidoor clans he mentions the laandhere and the leaders of Ree Cali ,the ree fiqi cigaal who were the biggest nightmare of the Ciidagale... Qawdhan says DHUXDHUXLAYNA REE FIQI CIQAAL HAYGU DHIRIYEENE

Ina Beenaley reciting a poem about Dhurwaale in which he said a famous line ..BAGA OO BAGA HADII REE SULDAAN BAABAH LAGAYEELAY..

ina Tarabi mentions ree fiqi cigaal as ruthless warriors who according to him wouldn't had any respect for Sacad muuse if it was not the garxajis ...he says ..CARRAANDHIRIYE REE FIQI CIGAAL KUMA CISEEYENE--

So ,Dhurwaale incident was between Ciidagale lead by Ree Cabdi and Ree Cali lead by Ree Fiqi Cigaal.And l don't expect from you to come back with a ridiculous claim saying Ree Cabdi or Ree Sugulle fought against the entire Ogaden!.

Still your posts have some meaningful tidbits.

Dhurwaale was only Cabdi Ciise involvement no other Ciidagale participated in that raid. Hure included Gobdoon in his poem from Aden not because they fought in Dhurwaale he included them because Arab killed some Gobdoon in similar clash.

But you been typical Daarood like to make history fit Daarood propaganda. Both Qawdhan and Aflow include in their poems the various Ogaden sub clans that were involved, why ignore all that and bring this silly argument of Reer Cali Vs Ciidagale ridiculous claim with zero evidence. Here is Aflow explaining the fate of every ogaden sub clan in their confrontation with the Garxajis.

Cismaanaw adeer maansadaan carabiyaynaayey
waataan casilay meesha iyo caydh kii Karameede
calaamooyin iga baaday baan idin cashaysiine
ka curaagta maantaan sidii ceel idiin dariye

rag ninkii Camada loo dhigay iyo cadadka Yaasiinka
cashar dhigato maal laga dhacaa waaba caaraya'e
Cabdi Dhari iyo Sheekhaash kolkaan ceeriga eryaayay
een caanahoodii ganbiyay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna reer Magan kolkaan sidii coomarika u jiidhay
maaraha casuusta leh kolkaan caydhka kaga yeelay
caska waaga waataan la dhacay curadadoodiiye
kuwuu haadku ciirada ku rogay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna waataan dul baxay culustii liibaane
kolkaan cududo waynaw ratiga caymanka u gooyay
een adhi camuudaasa helay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna reer Jeesaw baa caydh la yuururaye
kolkaan beel cidaadaha ka dhigay sida colkii laaran
cawayskiiba waataan dul sudhay calamadaydiiye
caatada markay Weehatay cabasho ooyaysay
kuwii faanka caado u lahaa way ka carareene
calaydh iyo bankii qaydar baa loo cadaan wadhay
rimay dii cagaagtiyo nirgahii cago gubyoonaayey
Cartan ololka goortay sidii culimo eedaantay
Cara dhiciya maantaan lahaa cidi ma ku sheegtay

colkii xigayna waataan ka dhacay cuudkii reer Dalale
cayuuntiina shaashka leh markaan cadho u qaadayay
ay baarqabadu caranayeen cidi ma kuu sheegtay
cayntii Jiciir lagu qabtiyo cabashadii gaadhay
ciyaalkaa ku tuur tuuri jiray gobab kii cawlaaye
kolkaad cimilka wada oodateen sida midgaan caydha
eed culuqa soo doonateen cidi ma kuu sheegtay

cashiiraanu nahay ayaad biyaha kaga cabayseene
cafradihiina goortii la waday ceelka dhiniciisa
maherkaan Cabdi ahayn kolkii lagu ciqaabaayay
Cawl yahankuu goortuu firdhaday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

kolkii Caabud waaq iyo Xer iyo Gaadsan la cantuugay
ee ina Caruus iyo la dilay caalinkii dunida
nin cibaara lihi kama gabyee cidi ma kuu sheegtay
Cukur iyo markii reer Garaad lagu ciyaaraayay
candhabaaladii baa hadhiyo reer Cismaanadiye
Haaruun kolkii lagu cartamay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

niman baanu caadh go ahayn Caliyo Haaruune
Cabdilaha cadhaan kula dhacniyo cumar rugtiisiiye
hadaan awrku noo ciidan galin Camir ma gaadhneene
cagtuna way dalooshaa sidaan Ciid u weeraraye
Caraay i dhiciya goortay lahayd cidi ma kuu sheegtay

casarkii mataanaha markaan cagacagaynaynay
een caaradhuubtiyo jigraha idinku cayn gooyay
cishriin nin baan lagu ogayn camalkii jiilaaye
Caraale iyo Jeeraar markaad culimo moodaysay
Cusbalay markii la idin baday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

cirifka dooya ceeliga samane wabiga coonkiisa
Caruusada habeeda leh markuu ciidagale dhaafay
ee doonta la idiin cuskaday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

nin carceeray baan aheye afkaa la iska calashaaye
cado kaliya uun baan ka dhigay curubti Daaroode
cankana maalin baan idin gashaday sida cadiimeede
calaamooyinkaas oo dhan oon cidina diidayn
waxaan idin cadibay kolkaad caasi noqoteene
warkaygu Cawbaare tagay cidi ma kuu sheegtay.

How many ogaden clans there in the poem? Here also Qawdhan recounts the dead reer Haaruun in the next battle Dheryo.

Haaruun ardaayada ka dumay, sooma oriyaane
Adhi jabay ragoodii ka daran, aarka noo galaye
Alka Duudda, ilimmii Dheryaa, aballaxii yaalle
Xirsibay indhaha kala heleen, ulayar Maadhiine
Soofihii aroos maagganaa, aakhiruu tegaye
Axmed dhimey agoontiinaway, alamba'aysaaye
Haddaanaan itaal dirir ahayn, amase eedbaaska
Anba waan u urugoon lahaa, inanki dheeraaye
Ilma Xiireybay eeda malag, oofta kaga taalle
Wallee aabbahoodaan ka kicin, adhaxda guudkeeda

Easy with the fatoosh and ogaden myth of been 5 millions.

Its . Basuun bas iga dhe hadii reer SULDAAN BAABAH laga yeelay. it was a poem by Dayl Yogol an Abskuul not Beenaley. That poem by Dayl gave the chance for Aflow to enter the poetic duel and sparked alto of poems between Aflow Vs Xarbi, Aflow Vs Dayl and Aflow Vs Camanje.

[BestPlaya]

Xplaya ,both Qowdhan and Ina Hurre mentioned the most hard hit clans with the biggest number of casualties in the Dhurwaale massacre and they are IIDO(Bah iido/ree sultan),Cabdi Bari,Ree Gobdon.....as for the line MA BURBURAY REE CABDIGU BAALKA WAA SIDAY E shows that Ree Cabdi(Bah iido+Cabdi Barri) are the laandhere and leaders of Ciidagale ...

In his other calaacal poem in which Qawdhan seeks the help of other iidoor clans he mentions the laandhere and the leaders of Ree Cali ,the ree fiqi cigaal who were the biggest nightmare of the Ciidagale... Qawdhan says DHUXDHUXLAYNA REE FIQI CIQAAL HAYGU DHIRIYEENE

Ina Beenaley reciting a poem about Dhurwaale in which he said a famous line ..BAGA OO BAGA HADII REE SULDAAN BAABAH LAGAYEELAY..

ina Tarabi mentions ree fiqi cigaal as ruthless warriors who according to him wouldn't had any respect for Sacad muuse if it was not the garxajis ...he says ..CARRAANDHIRIYE REE FIQI CIGAAL KUMA CISEEYENE--

So ,Dhurwaale incident was between Ciidagale lead by Ree Cabdi and Ree Cali lead by Ree Fiqi Cigaal.And l don't expect from you to come back with a ridiculous claim saying Ree Cabdi or Ree Sugulle fought against the entire Ogaden!.

Still your posts have some meaningful tidbits.

Dhurwaale was only Cabdi Ciise involvement no other Ciidagale participated in that raid. Hure included Gobdoon in his poem from Aden not because they fought in Dhurwaale he included them because Arab killed some Gobdoon in similar clash.

But you been typical Daarood like to make history fit Daarood propaganda. Both Qawdhan and Aflow include in their poems the various Ogaden sub clans that were involved, why ignore all that and bring this silly argument of Reer Cali Vs Ciidagale ridiculous claim with zero evidence. Here is Aflow explaining the fate of every ogaden sub clan in their confrontation with the Garxajis.

Cismaanaw adeer maansadaan carabiyaynaayey
waataan casilay meesha iyo caydh kii Karameede
calaamooyin iga baaday baan idin cashaysiine
ka curaagta maantaan sidii ceel idiin dariye

rag ninkii Camada loo dhigay iyo cadadka Yaasiinka
cashar dhigato maal laga dhacaa waaba caaraya'e
Cabdi Dhari iyo Sheekhaash kolkaan ceeriga eryaayay
een caanahoodii ganbiyay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna reer Magan kolkaan sidii coomarika u jiidhay
maaraha casuusta leh kolkaan caydhka kaga yeelay
caska waaga waataan la dhacay curadadoodiiye
kuwuu haadku ciirada ku rogay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna waataan dul baxay culustii liibaane
kolkaan cududo waynaw ratiga caymanka u gooyay
een adhi camuudaasa helay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna reer Jeesaw baa caydh la yuururaye
kolkaan beel cidaadaha ka dhigay sida colkii laaran
cawayskiiba waataan dul sudhay calamadaydiiye
caatada markay Weehatay cabasho ooyaysay
kuwii faanka caado u lahaa way ka carareene
calaydh iyo bankii qaydar baa loo cadaan wadhay
rimay dii cagaagtiyo nirgahii cago gubyoonaayey
Cartan ololka goortay sidii culimo eedaantay
Cara dhiciya maantaan lahaa cidi ma ku sheegtay

colkii xigayna waataan ka dhacay cuudkii reer Dalale
cayuuntiina shaashka leh markaan cadho u qaadayay
ay baarqabadu caranayeen cidi ma kuu sheegtay
cayntii Jiciir lagu qabtiyo cabashadii gaadhay
ciyaalkaa ku tuur tuuri jiray gobab kii cawlaaye
kolkaad cimilka wada oodateen sida midgaan caydha
eed culuqa soo doonateen cidi ma kuu sheegtay

cashiiraanu nahay ayaad biyaha kaga cabayseene
cafradihiina goortii la waday ceelka dhiniciisa
maherkaan Cabdi ahayn kolkii lagu ciqaabaayay
Cawl yahankuu goortuu firdhaday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

kolkii Caabud waaq iyo Xer iyo Gaadsan la cantuugay
ee ina Caruus iyo la dilay caalinkii dunida
nin cibaara lihi kama gabyee cidi ma kuu sheegtay
Cukur iyo markii reer Garaad lagu ciyaaraayay
candhabaaladii baa hadhiyo reer Cismaanadiye
Haaruun kolkii lagu cartamay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

niman baanu caadh go ahayn Caliyo Haaruune
Cabdilaha cadhaan kula dhacniyo cumar rugtiisiiye
hadaan awrku noo ciidan galin Camir ma gaadhneene
cagtuna way dalooshaa sidaan Ciid u weeraraye
Caraay i dhiciya goortay lahayd cidi ma kuu sheegtay

casarkii mataanaha markaan cagacagaynaynay
een caaradhuubtiyo jigraha idinku cayn gooyay
cishriin nin baan lagu ogayn camalkii jiilaaye
Caraale iyo Jeeraar markaad culimo moodaysay
Cusbalay markii la idin baday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

cirifka dooya ceeliga samane wabiga coonkiisa
Caruusada habeeda leh markuu ciidagale dhaafay
ee doonta la idiin cuskaday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

nin carceeray baan aheye afkaa la iska calashaaye
cado kaliya uun baan ka dhigay curubti Daaroode
cankana maalin baan idin gashaday sida cadiimeede
calaamooyinkaas oo dhan oon cidina diidayn
waxaan idin cadibay kolkaad caasi noqoteene
warkaygu Cawbaare tagay cidi ma kuu sheegtay.

How many ogaden clans there in the poem? Here also Qawdhan recounts the dead reer Haaruun in the next battle Dheryo.

Haaruun ardaayada ka dumay, sooma oriyaane
Adhi jabay ragoodii ka daran, aarka noo galaye
Alka Duudda, ilimmii Dheryaa, aballaxii yaalle
Xirsibay indhaha kala heleen, ulayar Maadhiine
Soofihii aroos maagganaa, aakhiruu tegaye
Axmed dhimey agoontiinaway, alamba'aysaaye
Haddaanaan itaal dirir ahayn, amase eedbaaska
Anba waan u urugoon lahaa, inanki dheeraaye
Ilma Xiireybay eeda malag, oofta kaga taalle
Wallee aabbahoodaan ka kicin, adhaxda guudkeeda

Easy with the fatoosh and ogaden myth of been 5 millions.

Its . Basuun bas iga dhe hadii reer SULDAAN BAABAH laga yeelay. it was a poem by Dayl Yogol an Abskuul not Beenaley. That poem by Dayl gave the chance for Aflow to enter the poetic duel and sparked alto of poems between Aflow Vs Xarbi, Aflow Vs Dayl and Aflow Vs Camanje.

Dhurwaale was only Ree Cabdi? Shut up man ! .If we follow your logic then it was Ree fiqi cigaal and Ree Cabdi
.You can't ignore that Ciidagale was massacred to a point they cried for the help of Habar jeclo ,Sacad Muuse and Habar Yoonis.And this incident happened after the Rayyad wars.

Aflow recited his famous poem while in the wells of Bulaale where ree Cali were rejoicing a recent victory over the Ciidagale.Though not a garxajis ,he reminded the ree lsaaq men about the successive victories of Garxajis in the Rayad wars in which they captured expansive territories from Ree isaaq and Makaahil .This included Bulaale and Haradigeed and seven wells of Doollo.Ogaden recaptured these territories after the famous Gubaabo poem of Cali Dhuux.

In a nutshell,Aflow reminds ree isaaq how they were once punished by garxajis.But you distorted the poem because it doesnt resemble the one in the HoygaSunganta or even Doollo yet most of the sub clans he mentioned are either Cali or Haruun.I bet you even don't even know Ogaden sub clans yet you want teach us history.I believe ,the version of Aflow's poem in Hoygasuganta is the correct one ..sorry but yours is fake and distorted .let me ask you;who are ree Jiisow,ree magan ,ree Cukur,Ree Dhagood ,Ree dalal mentioned in Aflows poem? Aren't they all either Cali or Haarun?

BTW,l love it when you're frustrated and start blaming everything for Darood.it's kinda amusing lol

[Alphamale1]

do rer Isaaq have Isaaq mother. Why are they called such?

[BestPlaya]

do rer Isaaq have Isaaq mother. Why are they called such?

They only share the name.just that

[X.Playa]

Xplaya ,both Qowdhan and Ina Hurre mentioned the most hard hit clans with the biggest number of casualties in the Dhurwaale massacre and they are IIDO(Bah iido/ree sultan),Cabdi Bari,Ree Gobdon.....as for the line MA BURBURAY REE CABDIGU BAALKA WAA SIDAY E shows that Ree Cabdi(Bah iido+Cabdi Barri) are the laandhere and leaders of Ciidagale ...

In his other calaacal poem in which Qawdhan seeks the help of other iidoor clans he mentions the laandhere and the leaders of Ree Cali ,the ree fiqi cigaal who were the biggest nightmare of the Ciidagale... Qawdhan says DHUXDHUXLAYNA REE FIQI CIQAAL HAYGU DHIRIYEENE

Ina Beenaley reciting a poem about Dhurwaale in which he said a famous line ..BAGA OO BAGA HADII REE SULDAAN BAABAH LAGAYEELAY..

ina Tarabi mentions ree fiqi cigaal as ruthless warriors who according to him wouldn't had any respect for Sacad muuse if it was not the garxajis ...he says ..CARRAANDHIRIYE REE FIQI CIGAAL KUMA CISEEYENE--

So ,Dhurwaale incident was between Ciidagale lead by Ree Cabdi and Ree Cali lead by Ree Fiqi Cigaal.And l don't expect from you to come back with a ridiculous claim saying Ree Cabdi or Ree Sugulle fought against the entire Ogaden!.

Still your posts have some meaningful tidbits.

Dhurwaale was only Cabdi Ciise involvement no other Ciidagale participated in that raid. Hure included Gobdoon in his poem from Aden not because they fought in Dhurwaale he included them because Arab killed some Gobdoon in similar clash.

But you been typical Daarood like to make history fit Daarood propaganda. Both Qawdhan and Aflow include in their poems the various Ogaden sub clans that were involved, why ignore all that and bring this silly argument of Reer Cali Vs Ciidagale ridiculous claim with zero evidence. Here is Aflow explaining the fate of every ogaden sub clan in their confrontation with the Garxajis.

Cismaanaw adeer maansadaan carabiyaynaayey
waataan casilay meesha iyo caydh kii Karameede
calaamooyin iga baaday baan idin cashaysiine
ka curaagta maantaan sidii ceel idiin dariye

rag ninkii Camada loo dhigay iyo cadadka Yaasiinka
cashar dhigato maal laga dhacaa waaba caaraya'e
Cabdi Dhari iyo Sheekhaash kolkaan ceeriga eryaayay
een caanahoodii ganbiyay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna reer Magan kolkaan sidii coomarika u jiidhay
maaraha casuusta leh kolkaan caydhka kaga yeelay
caska waaga waataan la dhacay curadadoodiiye
kuwuu haadku ciirada ku rogay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna waataan dul baxay culustii liibaane
kolkaan cududo waynaw ratiga caymanka u gooyay
een adhi camuudaasa helay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna reer Jeesaw baa caydh la yuururaye
kolkaan beel cidaadaha ka dhigay sida colkii laaran
cawayskiiba waataan dul sudhay calamadaydiiye
caatada markay Weehatay cabasho ooyaysay
kuwii faanka caado u lahaa way ka carareene
calaydh iyo bankii qaydar baa loo cadaan wadhay
rimay dii cagaagtiyo nirgahii cago gubyoonaayey
Cartan ololka goortay sidii culimo eedaantay
Cara dhiciya maantaan lahaa cidi ma ku sheegtay

colkii xigayna waataan ka dhacay cuudkii reer Dalale
cayuuntiina shaashka leh markaan cadho u qaadayay
ay baarqabadu caranayeen cidi ma kuu sheegtay
cayntii Jiciir lagu qabtiyo cabashadii gaadhay
ciyaalkaa ku tuur tuuri jiray gobab kii cawlaaye
kolkaad cimilka wada oodateen sida midgaan caydha
eed culuqa soo doonateen cidi ma kuu sheegtay

cashiiraanu nahay ayaad biyaha kaga cabayseene
cafradihiina goortii la waday ceelka dhiniciisa
maherkaan Cabdi ahayn kolkii lagu ciqaabaayay
Cawl yahankuu goortuu firdhaday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

kolkii Caabud waaq iyo Xer iyo Gaadsan la cantuugay
ee ina Caruus iyo la dilay caalinkii dunida
nin cibaara lihi kama gabyee cidi ma kuu sheegtay
Cukur iyo markii reer Garaad lagu ciyaaraayay
candhabaaladii baa hadhiyo reer Cismaanadiye
Haaruun kolkii lagu cartamay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

niman baanu caadh go ahayn Caliyo Haaruune
Cabdilaha cadhaan kula dhacniyo cumar rugtiisiiye
hadaan awrku noo ciidan galin Camir ma gaadhneene
cagtuna way dalooshaa sidaan Ciid u weeraraye
Caraay i dhiciya goortay lahayd cidi ma kuu sheegtay

casarkii mataanaha markaan cagacagaynaynay
een caaradhuubtiyo jigraha idinku cayn gooyay
cishriin nin baan lagu ogayn camalkii jiilaaye
Caraale iyo Jeeraar markaad culimo moodaysay
Cusbalay markii la idin baday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

cirifka dooya ceeliga samane wabiga coonkiisa
Caruusada habeeda leh markuu ciidagale dhaafay
ee doonta la idiin cuskaday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

nin carceeray baan aheye afkaa la iska calashaaye
cado kaliya uun baan ka dhigay curubti Daaroode
cankana maalin baan idin gashaday sida cadiimeede
calaamooyinkaas oo dhan oon cidina diidayn
waxaan idin cadibay kolkaad caasi noqoteene
warkaygu Cawbaare tagay cidi ma kuu sheegtay.

How many ogaden clans there in the poem? Here also Qawdhan recounts the dead reer Haaruun in the next battle Dheryo.

Haaruun ardaayada ka dumay, sooma oriyaane
Adhi jabay ragoodii ka daran, aarka noo galaye
Alka Duudda, ilimmii Dheryaa, aballaxii yaalle
Xirsibay indhaha kala heleen, ulayar Maadhiine
Soofihii aroos maagganaa, aakhiruu tegaye
Axmed dhimey agoontiinaway, alamba'aysaaye
Haddaanaan itaal dirir ahayn, amase eedbaaska
Anba waan u urugoon lahaa, inanki dheeraaye
Ilma Xiireybay eeda malag, oofta kaga taalle
Wallee aabbahoodaan ka kicin, adhaxda guudkeeda

Easy with the fatoosh and ogaden myth of been 5 millions.

Its . Basuun bas iga dhe hadii reer SULDAAN BAABAH laga yeelay. it was a poem by Dayl Yogol an Abskuul not Beenaley. That poem by Dayl gave the chance for Aflow to enter the poetic duel and sparked alto of poems between Aflow Vs Xarbi, Aflow Vs Dayl and Aflow Vs Camanje.

Dhurwaale was only Ree Cabdi? Shut up man ! .If we follow your logic then it was Ree fiqi cigaal and Ree Cabdi
.You can't ignore that Ciidagale was massacred to a point they cried for the help of Habar jeclo ,Sacad Muuse and Habar Yoonis.And this incident happened after the Rayyad wars.

Aflow recited his famous poem while in the wells of Bulaale where ree Cali were rejoicing a recent victory over the Ciidagale.Though not a garxajis ,he reminded the ree lsaaq men about the successive victories of Garxajis in the Rayad wars in which they captured expansive territories from Ree isaaq and Makaahil .This included Bulaale and Haradigeed and seven wells of Doollo.Ogaden recaptured these territories after the famous Gubaabo poem of Cali Dhuux.

In a nutshell,Aflow reminds ree isaaq how they were once punished by garxajis.But you distorted the poem because it doesnt resemble the one in the HoygaSunganta or even Doollo yet most of the sub clans he mentioned are either Cali or Haruun.I bet you even don't even know Ogaden sub clans yet you want teach us history.I believe ,the version of Aflow's poem in Hoygasuganta is the correct one ..sorry but yours is fake and distorted .let me ask you;who are ree Jiisow,ree magan ,ree Cukur,Ree Dhagood ,Ree dalal mentioned in Aflows poem? Aren't they all either Cali or Haarun?

BTW,l love it when you're frustrated and start blaming everything for Darood.it's kinda amusing lol

I think you are the over frustrated one, having schooled you in basic facts of these battles you are vainly pushing the Ogaden and Daarood mafrish revesionsim.

In all the poems its obvious that only the Cabdi Ciise were involved in the raid which resulted in Dhurwaale clash. You tried to pull the Daarood one ( equating the entire ciidagale with a sub clan of Reer Isaaq) on me. And I caught you. You presented no evidence what so ever to substantiate your claim which based on Ogaden narrative but has no actual base.

After Dhurwaale the Dheryo clashes followed and some eastern Ciidagale joined the battle and the Reer Isaaq were routed, that is also is obvious from the poems after Dheryo.

Qawdhan Ducaalee Guuleed pleaded for h.y and h.j help precisely beaacuse of the rest of the ciidagale refusing to help his Cabdi Ciise and this further support my argument. In both poems those of Hure and Qawdhan both call for Ciidagale to get involved again debunking your Ogaden heresy.


Aflow was among the Ogaden when he composed his poems , the Cayn, and the two replies to Dayl Yogol who was not even an Ogaden and rather an Abskuul who was rejoicing in the defeat of Reer SULDAAN, who are Reer SULDAAN? Aren't they the majority of the Cabdi Ciise6? Again this proves the obvious.

Now when it comes to what your Daarood call Rayad , its basically a corruption for the English word Raid when 3000 strong eastern Isaaq horsemen led by Xaaji Maxamed Bulaale aka Xaaji Waraabe finished the Mullah and the Reer Cabdille and Ba Gari in Qoraxay. Later the Makaahiil will be routed but no reer Isaaq suffered from Xaaji Waraabe's raid. The raid and the fight took place in Qoraxay not Dhagaxbuur or Bulaale. But you can't help it trying to fit the facts into your Daarood Guba narrative.

The Habar Yoonis battled the majority of the Ogaden with the exception of Cawlyahan, Maxamed Zubeer, Makaahiil and Bah Gari, at the same time the ogaden were allied and reinforced by Majeerteen Biciidyahan and Dhulbahante, while not even the Ciidagale came yo the help of the Habar Yoonis, and dis is not disputed.

The Ogaden only regained part of their wells and grazing land only when the Italians invaded Ethiopia after 1935 and that fact which is conveniently the Gaalo obsessed Daarood love to hide. In at least two of Yawle's poems in Guba he states how the Ogaden gained the upper hand with the help of other Daaroods and Italian arms.

I know enough of your ogaden sub clans to decipher that Caraale and Jeeraar are not Reer Isaaq or Makaahiil but a sub clans of the Ammaadiin reer Cabdille.

You are now claiming Aflow's poem is not the one in HoygaSunganta thus its forged lol I would like to let you know this both the one in Hoyga and the one I posted here are collected by me almost 20 years ago.

To me you are a little gold fish trying to harass a shark.

By the way the majority of the Cabdi Ciise in Dhurwaale were killed by the Amxaara whom they confused with the fleeing Ogaden. So repeating the word massacre as though that somehow makes your Ogaden a mighty army is silly. Even your uncle Sangub who recorded a cassette tape of Dhurwaale and Dheryo poems in Toronto attest to the Cabdi Ciise confusing an Ethiopian garrison with an Ogaden encampment.

Cabdi Hure points to that in his poem:

Xarbiyow cargaagtan iyo faan, maanta kugu ciirye
Cisi laguma waariyo aduun, coodin libineede

Ciyoonbaa ratiga aanu rari, ceeshka noo sida'e
Koran cabudhle coogflaha biyaha, lagu ceshiimeeyey
Waanu soo ciyaarbogi sidii, Caabbi Duulane
Casar libinta inaan dheelmi, way sida cadceedaase Caska Sibi, cufkii Dhagax madow, Sagag cankuurkeeda
Cascaska duuri, caal saaradii, cabitinkii geela

Cag haddaa dhigtaan meel banaan, sida shabeel caarle
Oonaan carada idinka wadin, waad na cariseene
Cismaan digin sidiisii haddaan, caydhu idin leefin
Carab Laagba reerkoodu waa, caydhiyo agoone
Calaydh kama danbayn ba Abaskuul, cululuf mooyaane
Cadkan baa Amxaar kuu ridee, Cali ma noolayne

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With that little diversion addressed lets continue:

Salaan Carrabay.

Af La Nacayba Nuur Xaashibaa oodaha u rogaye
Ha aarsado nin ragi waan jeclahay inu adkaadaaye

Nuur Xaashi was Reer Samatar warrior and one of Aflow's best friend. The incident here Salaan is referring too was the Axmed Cabdalle and Samatar Cabdalle taking revenge on the Ogadeen in 1900. Just months earlier the Ogadeen using dervish alliance attacked those to sub clans killing around 200 men , women and childern, the worst was they cut the breasts of dead women.

These two subclans had no choice but to retaliate somehow outgunned they joined an Ethiopian expeditionary forces against the ogaden and dervish and Nuur Xaashi managed to kill over a hundred by himself. So here Salaan is referring to Nuur's sweet revenge .

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Salaan Carrabay visiting Aden was approached by few of his sub clan demanding assistance he gave what he could but somehow the sum was not enough. He then argued his case in a poem:

Nin sirtayda ogi Aadanow, sed ima moodeene
Xaaskayga kama saafureen, soor haddaan qabo’e
Sahayna kalama iman Donald kii, saaqidka ahaaye
Balse sursuurahaan soo maraan kuu sawirayaaye
Sudha webiga, saalada hanfiga, salayaxii fiinta
Aydii sakaarada lahayd, sirinsirkii oonka
Sakatiga cabsida weerarkii, nalagu siidaayay
Gaalada sunnaadha leh markii, nalagu seensaabay
Goortii Ilaah baa sahlaye, samadu qiiqawday
Naftaba suurad damac lagama qabin, sina dharaartaase
Seeftii Amxaarada raggii, saaburaan ahay’e.

Salaan is referring to his 1895 travel to the Web Shabeele with Donaldson Smith and how he gained no wealth from such risk. Some people confuse Donaldson Smith the American with Lord Delmere of the British but Salaan accompanied the former.

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Dhurwaale was only Cabdi Ciise involvement no other Ciidagale participated in that raid. Hure included Gobdoon in his poem from Aden not because they fought in Dhurwaale he included them because Arab killed some Gobdoon in similar clash.

But you been typical Daarood like to make history fit Daarood propaganda. Both Qawdhan and Aflow include in their poems the various Ogaden sub clans that were involved, why ignore all that and bring this silly argument of Reer Cali Vs Ciidagale ridiculous claim with zero evidence. Here is Aflow explaining the fate of every ogaden sub clan in their confrontation with the Garxajis.

Cismaanaw adeer maansadaan carabiyaynaayey
waataan casilay meesha iyo caydh kii Karameede
calaamooyin iga baaday baan idin cashaysiine
ka curaagta maantaan sidii ceel idiin dariye

rag ninkii Camada loo dhigay iyo cadadka Yaasiinka
cashar dhigato maal laga dhacaa waaba caaraya'e
Cabdi Dhari iyo Sheekhaash kolkaan ceeriga eryaayay
een caanahoodii ganbiyay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna reer Magan kolkaan sidii coomarika u jiidhay
maaraha casuusta leh kolkaan caydhka kaga yeelay
caska waaga waataan la dhacay curadadoodiiye
kuwuu haadku ciirada ku rogay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna waataan dul baxay culustii liibaane
kolkaan cududo waynaw ratiga caymanka u gooyay
een adhi camuudaasa helay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

colkii xigayna reer Jeesaw baa caydh la yuururaye
kolkaan beel cidaadaha ka dhigay sida colkii laaran
cawayskiiba waataan dul sudhay calamadaydiiye
caatada markay Weehatay cabasho ooyaysay
kuwii faanka caado u lahaa way ka carareene
calaydh iyo bankii qaydar baa loo cadaan wadhay
rimay dii cagaagtiyo nirgahii cago gubyoonaayey
Cartan ololka goortay sidii culimo eedaantay
Cara dhiciya maantaan lahaa cidi ma ku sheegtay

colkii xigayna waataan ka dhacay cuudkii reer Dalale
cayuuntiina shaashka leh markaan cadho u qaadayay
ay baarqabadu caranayeen cidi ma kuu sheegtay
cayntii Jiciir lagu qabtiyo cabashadii gaadhay
ciyaalkaa ku tuur tuuri jiray gobab kii cawlaaye
kolkaad cimilka wada oodateen sida midgaan caydha
eed culuqa soo doonateen cidi ma kuu sheegtay

cashiiraanu nahay ayaad biyaha kaga cabayseene
cafradihiina goortii la waday ceelka dhiniciisa
maherkaan Cabdi ahayn kolkii lagu ciqaabaayay
Cawl yahankuu goortuu firdhaday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

kolkii Caabud waaq iyo Xer iyo Gaadsan la cantuugay
ee ina Caruus iyo la dilay caalinkii dunida
nin cibaara lihi kama gabyee cidi ma kuu sheegtay
Cukur iyo markii reer Garaad lagu ciyaaraayay
candhabaaladii baa hadhiyo reer Cismaanadiye
Haaruun kolkii lagu cartamay cidi ma kuu sheegtay

niman baanu caadh go ahayn Caliyo Haaruune
Cabdilaha cadhaan kula dhacniyo cumar rugtiisiiye
hadaan awrku noo ciidan galin Camir ma gaadhneene
cagtuna way dalooshaa sidaan Ciid u weeraraye
Caraay i dhiciya goortay lahayd cidi ma kuu sheegtay

casarkii mataanaha markaan cagacagaynaynay
een caaradhuubtiyo jigraha idinku cayn gooyay
cishriin nin baan lagu ogayn camalkii jiilaaye
Caraale iyo Jeeraar markaad culimo moodaysay
Cusbalay markii la idin baday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

cirifka dooya ceeliga samane wabiga coonkiisa
Caruusada habeeda leh markuu ciidagale dhaafay
ee doonta la idiin cuskaday cidi ma kuu sheegtay

nin carceeray baan aheye afkaa la iska calashaaye
cado kaliya uun baan ka dhigay curubti Daaroode
cankana maalin baan idin gashaday sida cadiimeede
calaamooyinkaas oo dhan oon cidina diidayn
waxaan idin cadibay kolkaad caasi noqoteene
warkaygu Cawbaare tagay cidi ma kuu sheegtay.

How many ogaden clans there in the poem? Here also Qawdhan recounts the dead reer Haaruun in the next battle Dheryo.

Haaruun ardaayada ka dumay, sooma oriyaane
Adhi jabay ragoodii ka daran, aarka noo galaye
Alka Duudda, ilimmii Dheryaa, aballaxii yaalle
Xirsibay indhaha kala heleen, ulayar Maadhiine
Soofihii aroos maagganaa, aakhiruu tegaye
Axmed dhimey agoontiinaway, alamba'aysaaye
Haddaanaan itaal dirir ahayn, amase eedbaaska
Anba waan u urugoon lahaa, inanki dheeraaye
Ilma Xiireybay eeda malag, oofta kaga taalle
Wallee aabbahoodaan ka kicin, adhaxda guudkeeda

Easy with the fatoosh and ogaden myth of been 5 millions.

Its . Basuun bas iga dhe hadii reer SULDAAN BAABAH laga yeelay. it was a poem by Dayl Yogol an Abskuul not Beenaley. That poem by Dayl gave the chance for Aflow to enter the poetic duel and sparked alto of poems between Aflow Vs Xarbi, Aflow Vs Dayl and Aflow Vs Camanje.

Dhurwaale was only Ree Cabdi? Shut up man ! .If we follow your logic then it was Ree fiqi cigaal and Ree Cabdi
.You can't ignore that Ciidagale was massacred to a point they cried for the help of Habar jeclo ,Sacad Muuse and Habar Yoonis.And this incident happened after the Rayyad wars.

Aflow recited his famous poem while in the wells of Bulaale where ree Cali were rejoicing a recent victory over the Ciidagale.Though not a garxajis ,he reminded the ree lsaaq men about the successive victories of Garxajis in the Rayad wars in which they captured expansive territories from Ree isaaq and Makaahil .This included Bulaale and Haradigeed and seven wells of Doollo.Ogaden recaptured these territories after the famous Gubaabo poem of Cali Dhuux.

In a nutshell,Aflow reminds ree isaaq how they were once punished by garxajis.But you distorted the poem because it doesnt resemble the one in the HoygaSunganta or even Doollo yet most of the sub clans he mentioned are either Cali or Haruun.I bet you even don't even know Ogaden sub clans yet you want teach us history.I believe ,the version of Aflow's poem in Hoygasuganta is the correct one ..sorry but yours is fake and distorted .let me ask you;who are ree Jiisow,ree magan ,ree Cukur,Ree Dhagood ,Ree dalal mentioned in Aflows poem? Aren't they all either Cali or Haarun?

BTW,l love it when you're frustrated and start blaming everything for Darood.it's kinda amusing lol

I think you are the over frustrated one, having schooled you in basic facts of these battles you are vainly pushing the Ogaden and Daarood mafrish revesionsim.

In all the poems its obvious that only the Cabdi Ciise were involved in the raid which resulted in Dhurwaale clash. You tried to pull the Daarood one ( equating the entire ciidagale with a sub clan of Reer Isaaq) on me. And I caught you. You presented no evidence what so ever to substantiate your claim which based on Ogaden narrative but has no actual base.

After Dhurwaale the Dheryo clashes followed and some eastern Ciidagale joined the battle and the Reer Isaaq were routed, that is also is obvious from the poems after Dheryo.

Qawdhan Ducaalee Guuleed pleaded for h.y and h.j help precisely beaacuse of the rest of the ciidagale refusing to help his Cabdi Ciise and this further support my argument. In both poems those of Hure and Qawdhan both call for Ciidagale to get involved again debunking your Ogaden heresy.


Aflow was among the Ogaden when he composed his poems , the Cayn, and the two replies to Dayl Yogol who was not even an Ogaden and rather an Abskuul who was rejoicing in the defeat of Reer SULDAAN, who are Reer SULDAAN? Aren't they the majority of the Cabdi Ciise6? Again this proves the obvious.

Now when it comes to what your Daarood call Rayad , its basically a corruption for the English word Raid when 3000 strong eastern Isaaq horsemen led by Xaaji Maxamed Bulaale aka Xaaji Waraabe finished the Mullah and the Reer Cabdille and Ba Gari in Qoraxay. Later the Makaahiil will be routed but no reer Isaaq suffered from Xaaji Waraabe's raid. The raid and the fight took place in Qoraxay not Dhagaxbuur or Bulaale. But you can't help it trying to fit the facts into your Daarood Guba narrative.

The Habar Yoonis battled the majority of the Ogaden with the exception of Cawlyahan, Maxamed Zubeer, Makaahiil and Bah Gari, at the same time the ogaden were allied and reinforced by Majeerteen Biciidyahan and Dhulbahante, while not even the Ciidagale came yo the help of the Habar Yoonis, and dis is not disputed.

The Ogaden only regained part of their wells and grazing land only when the Italians invaded Ethiopia after 1935 and that fact which is conveniently the Gaalo obsessed Daarood love to hide. In at least two of Yawle's poems in Guba he states how the Ogaden gained the upper hand with the help of other Daaroods and Italian arms.

I know enough of your ogaden sub clans to decipher that Caraale and Jeeraar are not Reer Isaaq or Makaahiil but a sub clans of the Ammaadiin reer Cabdille.

You are now claiming Aflow's poem is not the one in HoygaSunganta thus its forged lol I would like to let you know this both the one in Hoyga and the one I posted here are collected by me almost 20 years ago.

To me you are a little gold fish trying to harass a shark.

By the way the majority of the Cabdi Ciise in Dhurwaale were killed by the Amxaara whom they confused with the fleeing Ogaden. So repeating the word massacre as though that somehow makes your Ogaden a mighty army is silly. Even your uncle Sangub who recorded a cassette tape of Dhurwaale and Dheryo poems in Toronto attest to the Cabdi Ciise confusing an Ethiopian garrison with an Ogaden encampment.

Cabdi Hure points to that in his poem:

Xarbiyow cargaagtan iyo faan, maanta kugu ciirye
Cisi laguma waariyo aduun, coodin libineede

Ciyoonbaa ratiga aanu rari, ceeshka noo sida'e
Koran cabudhle coogflaha biyaha, lagu ceshiimeeyey
Waanu soo ciyaarbogi sidii, Caabbi Duulane
Casar libinta inaan dheelmi, way sida cadceedaase Caska Sibi, cufkii Dhagax madow, Sagag cankuurkeeda
Cascaska duuri, caal saaradii, cabitinkii geela

Cag haddaa dhigtaan meel banaan, sida shabeel caarle
Oonaan carada idinka wadin, waad na cariseene
Cismaan digin sidiisii haddaan, caydhu idin leefin
Carab Laagba reerkoodu waa, caydhiyo agoone
Calaydh kama danbayn ba Abaskuul, cululuf mooyaane
Cadkan baa Amxaar kuu ridee, Cali ma noolayne

In the Rayyad wars Habar Yonis captured much of Doollo which was then a grazing land with 7 prominent wells;wal Waal ,Ubataale,wardheer,Danood .These wells were shared by Ree Cabdille Cideed and Makahil .After the Gubaabo of Cali DhuuxThey recaptured Doollo from HY and the nearest place they can be found today is north of Danood.During the Rayyad ,The Ciidgale with the Help of HY captured Bulaale and this when they killed the Arsi scholar and the two Ogaden sheikhs


M.C.Dage recited this poem talking about Ogaden reconquest

Ogaden Danood Digiyo Durugsay Ceelkii dheh
Iidoor dalaalimo kawaa Doollo iyo Ciid dheh



Umar Australia ,a Sacad muse poet, sarcastically told the Garxajis that looting camels Sacad muse is like Garxajis raiding Danood ( Abraahin stronghold with largest 'haro' in Doollo region.) which was quite impossible according to Cumar Austraali

Abtiyaal waxaydaan heli karin ha isku hiifina'e
Halba anigoo nin u dilay habelna dheeraaday
Waydinkoo Danood Habeen madow soo hintiqiseene


Don't lie about history ,other than the Rayyad wars ,Ciidagale hardly meet any Ogaden clan other Ree Cali.Ree Cali .Ree Haarun Bari share border with Habar Yonis and Not Ciidagale.As for Amxaaro siding with Huwan(Ree Cali) and killing the Ciidagale, This why people despise your revisionism. Ree Cali or Huwan may got firearms from the Habesha but they never sought their help in the Dhurwaale massacre .To burst your bubble, We don't say the British invaded us during the Rayyad era even though they heavily armed you and that not secret .Hadaba caqligaa hadanu kuu raacno oo markaa tiraahdo Dhurwaale xabashi ayaa na Xasuuqday anagana Doollo waxaa Inaga Maroorsaday Ingiriiska kadib intaanan dib u qabsan.

Ree Cabdi is just two sections ;Bah iido(Ree Suldan) and Cabdi Barri .Their equivalent Ogaden counter parts are Ree Fiqi Cigaal (Jiisow iyo Mayan and many more).For your info,most Ree Cali and Ciidagale wars were between this two sub clans. But for you it was Ree Cabdi versus Ogaden.Indho adayg ayaad dhamaysay.Gabayga Aflowna wuxuu kahadlayaa Colaad guud between Ogaden and Isaaq though Cali iyo Haruun were mostly affected by Garxajis raids


Maxaad kaloo haysaaa oo taarikh ah

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In the Rayyad wars Habar Yonis captured much of Doollo which was then a grazing land with 7 prominent wells;wal Waal ,Ubataale,wardheer,Danood .These wells were shared by Ree Cabdille Cideed and Makahil .After the Gubaabo of Cali DhuuxThey recaptured Doollo from HY and the nearest place they can be found today is north of Danood.During the Rayyad ,The Ciidgale with the Help of HY captured Bulaale and this when they killed the Arsi scholar and the two Ogaden sheikhs


M.C.Dage recited this poem talking about Ogaden reconquest

Ogaden Danood Digiyo Durugsay Ceelkii dheh
Iidoor dalaalimo kawaa Doollo iyo Ciid dheh



Umar Australia ,a Sacad muse poet, sarcastically told the Garxajis that looting camels Sacad muse is like Garxajis raiding Danood ( Abraahin stronghold with largest 'haro' in Doollo region.) which is quite impossible.

Abtiyaal waxaydaan heli karin ha isku hiifina'e
Halba anigoo nin u dilay habelna dheeraaday
Waydinkoo Danood Habeen madow soo hintiqiseene


Don't lie about history ,other than the Rayyad wars ,Ciidagale hardly meet any Ogaden clan other Ree Cali.Ree Cali .Ree Haarun Bari share border with Habar Yonis and Not Ciidagale.As for Amxaaro siding with Huwan(Ree Cali) and killing the Ciidagale, This why people despise your revisionism. Ree Cali or Huwan may got firearms from the Habesha but they never sought their help in the Dhurwaale massacre .To burst your bubble, We don't say the British invaded us during the Rayyad era even though they heavily armed you and that not secret .Hadaba caqligaa hadanu kuu raacno oo markaa tiraahdo Dhurwaale xabashi ayaa na Xasuuqday anagana Doollo waxaa Inaga Maroorsaday Ingiriiska kadib intaanan dib u hintiqiseene

Revisionism is defined as " the theory or practice of revising one's attitude to a previously accepted situation or point of view." and its obvious who is disputing all the text of these poems.

Your Daarood have attempted to modify what was previously accepted, specially during the Somali republic days and the heydays of Daaroodism. We Isaaq just stick to the facts and most of it can be gleaned from Somali poetry itself.

Now having lost all the argument ( assuming you had one to begin with) are now resorting to splitting hair. The Cabdi Ciise after relentlessly chasing the Ogaden to Bulaale had mistaken an Amxare garrison for an Ogaden encampment, this is not even in dispute most of your elder Ogaden don't even dispute this Sangub been one and the nephew of Aflow in taping some of Aflow's poetry he stated the obvious that the Cabdi Ciise attacked the Amxaara, Sangub's version is slightly different in it he said the Cabdi Ciise wanted to get the Amxaara arms and follow the fleeing Ogaden. So far you are just crying in desperation but ate not able to dispute any of these facts which are within the poems themselves.

About Cumar Dage yes he said those words but the question is when? And how? The answer is after 1935 the Ogaden used their Italian connection through their Daarood kins in the Italian military to get arms and assistance to dislodge the Habar Yoonis. The Italian army was full of Daarood from Ogaden, Mareexaan and Majeerteen.

Yawl stating the obvious to the boastful Cumar Dage replied:

Daratoole iyo Caado oo wada diraabaaya
Danbar kulule daahyaalihii Deero laga qaaday
Markii udubkayagu daadsanaa Daaqatiyo Faafan

Ee geelayagu diisha dheer daaqa ka idleeyey
Goortuu dubbuu nagaga dhacay Dalalna ooyaayey
Duqa Cali ogaadeen markuu diradiraynaayey

Daa'ima caruura iyo markuu doqon ku sheegaayey
Dorraad hadalku waakii ahaa Doollo laga qaadye
Ma dabkii Talyaanigu qubaa daafad kugu biirshey?

Again Yawle replying to Cabdi Gahayr in the same year where the later accused the Habar Yoonis in getting soft on the Daarood Yawle replied:

Cosobkiyo hadduu geelayagu, Caado kor u dhaafo
Ogaadeen ciqaabkiyo nabsiga, iyo culuqu waw yiille
Iyagaba raggii caagganaa, looma caabudane
Cumar Dheere iyo baa la diley, culimadoodiiye
Cadad maleh intuu Reer Ugaas, cunay waraabuuye.

Markuu Cali ku maansoonayey, ee ciil la hoganaayey
Cabdilliyo Makaahiil miyaan, ciidan laga waayin
Miyaanaan Cammuud iyo Wardheer, calan ka laalaadin
Miyaannaan Biciidyahan cantaray, curub ka kawsiinnin
Miyaan Caliyo Haaruun ka qixin, cidhifki Laamaale

Cabaadkii Ogaadeen miyaanu, ciidda mari waayin
Cusbaale iyo Xananley miyaan, coodan lagu qaybsan
Miyaanaan caroofiga xeryaha, cayn walbuu gelinnin
Curdankiyo sagaarada miyaan, caydhu ku ekaannin?
Intii aan Talyaanigu cammirin, cidhifyadaa kaynta
Miyaannaan cadceed iyo cadceed, celinnin Daaroodka?

Despite the Italians the Habar Yoonis continued to push till they reached Cagaarweyne and Galaadi. And Wardheer fighting the MJ and Ogaden Makaahiil there resulting in another poetic chain Daarood-Ku-Xaar ( where The Daarood have defecated) . After the Daarood suffered a huge lost all Habar Yoonis poet, Yawle (muse ismaaciil) , Cismaan Indhoole ( Muse Cabdalle) , Cilmi Liig ( Cali Siciid) and Kaahin Feedhole6( Xirsi Cismaan) all partook in those celebratory poems.

The point is obvious, your Daarood elders had to invent a new reality and make excuses for this dominate 1 Isaaq subclan over all the Daarood, even the Mareexaan didn't escape the H.Y reign of terror the few skinny useless cows they had were taken in Ribadle north west of Baladweyn. So a new narrative had to be created which most of it is based " ingiriis baa la socday iyo Chinese baa caawiyey Isaaq " how else can they explain despite their boastful claim of numbering in the millions the epic h.y Katbaash that lasted over 25 years. Lol

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With that little diversion addressed lets continue:

Salaan Carrabay.

Af La Nacayba Nuur Xaashibaa oodaha u rogaye
Ha aarsado nin ragi waan jeclahay inu adkaadaaye

Nuur Xaashi was Reer Samatar warrior and one of Aflow's best friend. The incident here Salaan is referring too was the Axmed Cabdalle and Samatar Cabdalle taking revenge on the Ogadeen in 1900. Just months earlier the Ogadeen using dervish alliance attacked those to sub clans killing around 200 men , women and childern, the worst was they cut the breasts of dead women.

These two subclans had no choice but to retaliate somehow outgunned they joined an Ethiopian expeditionary forces against the ogaden and dervish and Nuur Xaashi managed to kill over a hundred by himself. So here Salaan is referring to Nuur's sweet revenge .

Who are AF lanacay? Do you know about this sub clan?

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There is no denying Garxajis were major, major power. Very impressed HY sub clan of Abdalla ismail. They were mighty tribe.

The Rer Isaaq of the Ogaden themselves were formidable foe as well.

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In the Rayyad wars Habar Yonis captured much of Doollo which was then a grazing land with 7 prominent wells;wal Waal ,Ubataale,wardheer,Danood .These wells were shared by Ree Cabdille Cideed and Makahil .After the Gubaabo of Cali DhuuxThey recaptured Doollo from HY and the nearest place they can be found today is north of Danood.During the Rayyad ,The Ciidgale with the Help of HY captured Bulaale and this when they killed the Arsi scholar and the two Ogaden sheikhs


M.C.Dage recited this poem talking about Ogaden reconquest

Ogaden Danood Digiyo Durugsay Ceelkii dheh
Iidoor dalaalimo kawaa Doollo iyo Ciid dheh



Umar Australia ,a Sacad muse poet, sarcastically told the Garxajis that looting camels Sacad muse is like Garxajis raiding Danood ( Abraahin stronghold with largest 'haro' in Doollo region.) which is quite impossible.

Abtiyaal waxaydaan heli karin ha isku hiifina'e
Halba anigoo nin u dilay habelna dheeraaday
Waydinkoo Danood Habeen madow soo hintiqiseene


Don't lie about history ,other than the Rayyad wars ,Ciidagale hardly meet any Ogaden clan other Ree Cali.Ree Cali .Ree Haarun Bari share border with Habar Yonis and Not Ciidagale.As for Amxaaro siding with Huwan(Ree Cali) and killing the Ciidagale, This why people despise your revisionism. Ree Cali or Huwan may got firearms from the Habesha but they never sought their help in the Dhurwaale massacre .To burst your bubble, We don't say the British invaded us during the Rayyad era even though they heavily armed you and that not secret .Hadaba caqligaa hadanu kuu raacno oo markaa tiraahdo Dhurwaale xabashi ayaa na Xasuuqday anagana Doollo waxaa Inaga Maroorsaday Ingiriiska kadib intaanan dib u hintiqiseene

Revisionism is defined as " the theory or practice of revising one's attitude to a previously accepted situation or point of view." and its obvious who is disputing all the text of these poems.

Your Daarood have attempted to modify what was previously accepted, specially during the Somali republic days and the heydays of Daaroodism. We Isaaq just stick to the facts and most of it can be gleaned from Somali poetry itself.

Now having lost all the argument ( assuming you had one to begin with) are now resorting to splitting hair. The Cabdi Ciise after relentlessly chasing the Ogaden to Bulaale had mistaken an Amxare garrison for an Ogaden encampment, this is not even in dispute most of your elder Ogaden don't even dispute this Sangub been one and the nephew of Aflow in taping some of Aflow's poetry he stated the obvious that the Cabdi Ciise attacked the Amxaara, Sangub's version is slightly different in it he said the Cabdi Ciise wanted to get the Amxaara arms and follow the fleeing Ogaden. So far you are just crying in desperation but ate not able to dispute any of these facts which are within the poems themselves.

About Cumar Dage yes he said those words but the question is when? And how? The answer is after 1935 the Ogaden used their Italian connection through their Daarood kins in the Italian military to get arms and assistance to dislodge the Habar Yoonis. The Italian army was full of Daarood from Ogaden, Mareexaan and Majeerteen.

Yawl stating the obvious to the boastful Cumar Dage replied:

Daratoole iyo Caado oo wada diraabaaya
Danbar kulule daahyaalihii Deero laga qaaday
Markii udubkayagu daadsanaa Daaqatiyo Faafan

Ee geelayagu diisha dheer daaqa ka idleeyey
Goortuu dubbuu nagaga dhacay Dalalna ooyaayey
Duqa Cali ogaadeen markuu diradiraynaayey

Daa'ima caruura iyo markuu doqon ku sheegaayey
Dorraad hadalku waakii ahaa Doollo laga qaadye
Ma dabkii Talyaanigu qubaa daafad kugu biirshey?

Again Yawle replying to Cabdi Gahayr in the same year where the later accused the Habar Yoonis in getting soft on the Daarood Yawle replied:

Cosobkiyo hadduu geelayagu, Caado kor u dhaafo
Ogaadeen ciqaabkiyo nabsiga, iyo culuqu waw yiille
Iyagaba raggii caagganaa, looma caabudane
Cumar Dheere iyo baa la diley, culimadoodiiye
Cadad maleh intuu Reer Ugaas, cunay waraabuuye.

Markuu Cali ku maansoonayey, ee ciil la hoganaayey
Cabdilliyo Makaahiil miyaan, ciidan laga waayin
Miyaanaan Cammuud iyo Wardheer, calan ka laalaadin
Miyaannaan Biciidyahan cantaray, curub ka kawsiinnin
Miyaan Caliyo Haaruun ka qixin, cidhifki Laamaale

Cabaadkii Ogaadeen miyaanu, ciidda mari waayin
Cusbaale iyo Xananley miyaan, coodan lagu qaybsan
Miyaanaan caroofiga xeryaha, cayn walbuu gelinnin
Curdankiyo sagaarada miyaan, caydhu ku ekaannin?
Intii aan Talyaanigu cammirin, cidhifyadaa kaynta
Miyaannaan cadceed iyo cadceed, celinnin Daaroodka?

Despite the Italians the Habar Yoonis continued to push till they reached Cagaarweyne and Galaadi. And Wardheer fighting the MJ and Ogaden Makaahiil there resulting in another poetic chain Daarood-Ku-Xaar ( where The Daarood have defecated) . After the Daarood suffered a huge lost all Habar Yoonis poet, Yawle (muse ismaaciil) , Cismaan Indhoole ( Muse Cabdalle) , Cilmi Liig ( Cali Siciid) and Kaahin Feedhole6( Xirsi Cismaan) all partook in those celebratory poems.

The point is obvious, your Daarood elders had to invent a new reality and make excuses for this dominate 1 Isaaq subclan over all the Daarood, even the Mareexaan didn't escape the H.Y reign of terror the few skinny useless cows they had were taken in Ribadle north west of Baladweyn. So a new narrative had to be created which most of it is based " ingiriis baa la socday iyo Chinese baa caawiyey Isaaq " how else can they explain despite their boastful claim of numbering in the millions the epic h.y Katbaash that lasted over 25 years. Lol

Don't resort to your silly tactics.Do NOT try to Compare Darood to iidoor(a sub clan of Dir though they disown their origin) .I think we are discussing the history of the hawd.So,it should be Iidoor versus Ogaden .Or more specifically ( HY +ciidagale +Arab) versus (ree isaaq+ Ree cabdille +Makaahiil).Majority of Sacad Muse,Ciise Muuse and Habar Jeclo had nothing to do with this Ogaden.Similarly, other Major Ogaden Clans such as Cabdalle,Cawdaaq,Cawlyahan,Bah Geri,Ree Maxamad ,Muuse gumacadle and majority of Ree Cabdille don't even meet or share border with Iidoor.


About Numbers ? l will repeat it again. Since there is no reliable population data of Somali population let me give you a big hint of your population estimate by comparing the registered voters from Somaliland and NFD. In Somaliland ,the registered iidoor voters are 620k by estimate (l will tell how l arrived to this estimation). In NFD Ogaden managed to register 200k + 20k from Eastleigh and other regions.If Kenyan OGs alone managed to equal 1/3of total Iidoor registered votes then what do you think Of Ogaden in Ethiopia who are half of the total population of Somalis in DDSI.I haven't mentioned those who are in Jubaland!