Raage Ugaas and the claim of inventing " hoyaalayeey hoyalaayeey hooboy" the claim in his new book addressed

[X.Playa]

The sexual frustration in this iidoor is palpable.
I feel sullied after every interaction.

So dyke why pretend you are a male? Your feminine traits is obvious no male would act and respond the way you do. The dumbest male would at least have a knowledge on one subject and make a comment more then a line.

Either you have overdeveloped clitoris or some male/female duality.

[original dervish]

You behave like a nigga serving life in a super max.
Surely there is an orifice someplace somewhere that you can put your iidoor mouth across.

[cheifaqilbari]

Xplaya, REALLY good work on you refuting Faqash Siyadist cultural attack on the somali history and culture. The fact that a man like Idaaja and his cadmres hatred xenophobic qabilist has been spewing 30 years of nonsense on public radio and newspaper has brainwashed an entire generation of somalis. Alot of these people think somali history started with siyad barre and was founded by Barre that disgusting dicator .

If you ever write a book and need funding I will willing to contribute and im sure more many other free thinking anti siyadest somalis will. The somali people need people to disaprove this Siyadist agenda in somali history. In other countries where a dicatorship has been overthown the people who was in the innerside of the dicatorship was killed, put in prison or exiled. in our case Somaliland and Somalia there were forgiving rehabiliated a big mistake which has made them continue their criminal work. Can you image, Germany praising the Nazism , Japan praising the Empire no those people have been punished and killed and thier history shown to Germans and Japanese as criminals to take not forget. This is something we must do as well in Somaliland. Siyadbarre and his disgusting family destroyed a nation and blacked its history. we must go back to the sources and get the true diverse somali history. Our adal, Ifat history, our many different Poets history our islamic history our preislamic history our resistance ur indpendence history our deen and daqan . Barre and his family abused the somali history and his offspring who constantly defend him in this forum should instead of praising him a dead man , they should should concentrated on how to be good newamericans in their exile and how they can take the cold weather in Northamerica . With the speed of technology the interest of somali people in thier own history I doubt they the lying dofaar siyadist wil have anywhere to hide if they decide to return fro their exile.

[original dervish]

What book...........he's been mouthing off for years.
All he does is spout iidoor drivel and gibberish.

The ignoble history of the iidoor can be found in any well stocked library.

[X.Playa]

What book...........he's been mouthing off for years.
All he does is spout iidoor drivel and gibberish.

The ignoble history of the iidoor can be found in any well stocked library.

Do you have the mental capacity to write more then two lines? I have yet to see this she male write a full paragraph.

[BestPlaya]

So the book of Raage Ugaas ( 1835-1884) has finally came out. I was aware of the efforts to collect his poetry by various Daarood revisionist and propagandist to crown him the master of the Somali poetry. Of course such claim is baseless .

From the 1960s Xirsi Magan and Shireh Jaamac both Daarood literature supremacist attempted to promote Raage Ugaas as top poet. They attributed to him many pioneering claim:

1- that he supposedly invented the Somali poetic meter.

2- that his poems are the most ancient of Somali poetry.

3- that he invented the poetic traditional preface " hoyalaayeey hoyaaleey hooby ".

4- that he divided the Somali literature into tix and Tiraab.

During the reign of Afweyne, Idaajaa basically had an absolute monopoly on all Somali media both radio and print media. Throughout 1970s and 1980s he promoted Raage Ugaas in his radio Mogadisho and in Xidigta October and Ogaal weekly. They also incorporated Raage Ugaas poetry into school curriculum to familiarize him with all Somalis.

In case that was not enough Afweyne personally interfered and built and named an school in the capital after Raage Ugaas ( an elementary school) to imprint the name of Raage Ugaas on first graders.

It wasn't long after that this revisionism bare fruit. Most Somali song composers and play writers began to quote Raage Ugaas in their lectures of interviews. The obvious reason was that Raage Ugaas had became the most famous personality from the 1800s. Gaariye, Meygaag Samatar and others in somaliland took the bait and swallowed the propaganda. In the 1970s Meygaag Samatar an educated Isaaq had written a paper on one of Raage Ugaas poems.

Tix iyo Tiraab is the title of the new published Raage Ugaas book. The two words in English can be translated as " poetry and prose ". All Somali literature can be divided as Tix ( poems) and Tiraab ( prose) the title is not accidental the Daarood also claim Raage Ugaas himself divided the Somali literature into these two.

Raage Ugaas never advanced such ridiculous claim himself, he just mentioned these traditional Somali phrases in his poetry:

Hadal waa tiraab iyo tix uun, waxaad tidhaahdaaye.

Simply by stating the traditional division in his poetry doesn't mean he invented them. But the modern Daarood will use that as an evidence for him introducing these divisions. Similarly Raage Ugaas stated that most Somali poems begin with the traditional chant Hoyaalayeey Hoyaalayeey Hoobay:

Hooyaalayey gabyga waa ugu horeeyaaye
Halla uma tartee maansadaa, lagu hagaajaayee

Here he simply stating that phrase is preface of all poems and it doesn't mean much its only used to embellish the poem.

The author of the book is one Ogaadeen with the title of Dr Axmed Nuur Maxamed. I watched his book been promoted in a Daarood t.v network. I watched the interview to see if he would substantiate all their claim. Sadly the interview and the t.v host both are below standard, the host was not up to the standard he seem completely ignorant of basic knowledge. Here is the cheerleading segment:

I advice not to waste time on the interview just continue reading.


The rest of their claim is soo ridiculous to warrant a debunk, they are typical of Daarood madness run a mock in the effort to promote their tribe.

The one about Hoyaalayeey Hoyaalayeey Hoobay is so ridiculous that even our ancient cousins the Masai would laugh at this Daarood claim.

This is a traditional Masai chant in the bush. Watch the conclusions of the song 3:14-3:18. Here the Masai conclude their song by saying " hoyaalayeey hoyaalayeey Hoobay "



I won't be the least surprised if Voltage and the Daarood supremacist argue yes that Raage Ugaas telepathically taught the Masai hoyaalayeey hoyaalayeey Hoobay.

Raage Ugaas Warfaa was the most iconic Somali poet in his generation. Any step to preserve his poems is noble and commendable.

"Hadal waa tiraab iyo tix uun waxaa tidhaahdaaye " .This line doesn't mean he invented the words 'tix' and 'tiraab'
however,he eloquently classified 'HADAL' into tix and tiraab using poem.It is worthy of mention that people knew the difference between tix and tiraab but his poetic line made classification of HADAL clearer and popular.


"Hoyaalayeey gabayga waa ugu horreeyaaye
Hal uma tartee ,maansadaa lagu hagaajaaye"

The above couplet simply explains the USE of hoyaalayeey.just that.l agree with you on this one Mr.X ,Rage ugaas Warfaa eloquently explained the importance of Hoyaalayeey which is an opening formula only meant to introduce a poem.ln short,he invented NOT this introductory formula but popularized its use with his famed and beautiful poetic couplet.

Go and preserve the poetic works of iidoor poets instead of blaming every single mistake made for the entire Darood.stop it,cuz you're now getting boring and unfunny with your anti-Darood campaign

[X.Playa]

So the book of Raage Ugaas ( 1835-1884) has finally came out. I was aware of the efforts to collect his poetry by various Daarood revisionist and propagandist to crown him the master of the Somali poetry. Of course such claim is baseless .

From the 1960s Xirsi Magan and Shireh Jaamac both Daarood literature supremacist attempted to promote Raage Ugaas as top poet. They attributed to him many pioneering claim:

1- that he supposedly invented the Somali poetic meter.

2- that his poems are the most ancient of Somali poetry.

3- that he invented the poetic traditional preface " hoyalaayeey hoyaaleey hooby ".

4- that he divided the Somali literature into tix and Tiraab.

During the reign of Afweyne, Idaajaa basically had an absolute monopoly on all Somali media both radio and print media. Throughout 1970s and 1980s he promoted Raage Ugaas in his radio Mogadisho and in Xidigta October and Ogaal weekly. They also incorporated Raage Ugaas poetry into school curriculum to familiarize him with all Somalis.

In case that was not enough Afweyne personally interfered and built and named an school in the capital after Raage Ugaas ( an elementary school) to imprint the name of Raage Ugaas on first graders.

It wasn't long after that this revisionism bare fruit. Most Somali song composers and play writers began to quote Raage Ugaas in their lectures of interviews. The obvious reason was that Raage Ugaas had became the most famous personality from the 1800s. Gaariye, Meygaag Samatar and others in somaliland took the bait and swallowed the propaganda. In the 1970s Meygaag Samatar an educated Isaaq had written a paper on one of Raage Ugaas poems.

Tix iyo Tiraab is the title of the new published Raage Ugaas book. The two words in English can be translated as " poetry and prose ". All Somali literature can be divided as Tix ( poems) and Tiraab ( prose) the title is not accidental the Daarood also claim Raage Ugaas himself divided the Somali literature into these two.

Raage Ugaas never advanced such ridiculous claim himself, he just mentioned these traditional Somali phrases in his poetry:

Hadal waa tiraab iyo tix uun, waxaad tidhaahdaaye.

Simply by stating the traditional division in his poetry doesn't mean he invented them. But the modern Daarood will use that as an evidence for him introducing these divisions. Similarly Raage Ugaas stated that most Somali poems begin with the traditional chant Hoyaalayeey Hoyaalayeey Hoobay:

Hooyaalayey gabyga waa ugu horeeyaaye
Halla uma tartee maansadaa, lagu hagaajaayee

Here he simply stating that phrase is preface of all poems and it doesn't mean much its only used to embellish the poem.

The author of the book is one Ogaadeen with the title of Dr Axmed Nuur Maxamed. I watched his book been promoted in a Daarood t.v network. I watched the interview to see if he would substantiate all their claim. Sadly the interview and the t.v host both are below standard, the host was not up to the standard he seem completely ignorant of basic knowledge. Here is the cheerleading segment:

I advice not to waste time on the interview just continue reading.


The rest of their claim is soo ridiculous to warrant a debunk, they are typical of Daarood madness run a mock in the effort to promote their tribe.

The one about Hoyaalayeey Hoyaalayeey Hoobay is so ridiculous that even our ancient cousins the Masai would laugh at this Daarood claim.

This is a traditional Masai chant in the bush. Watch the conclusions of the song 3:14-3:18. Here the Masai conclude their song by saying " hoyaalayeey hoyaalayeey Hoobay "



I won't be the least surprised if Voltage and the Daarood supremacist argue yes that Raage Ugaas telepathically taught the Masai hoyaalayeey hoyaalayeey Hoobay.

Raage Ugaas Warfaa was the most iconic Somali poet in his generation. Any step to preserve his poems is noble and commendable.

"Hadal waa tiraab iyo tix uun waxaa tidhaahdaaye " .This line doesn't mean he invented the words 'tix' and 'tiraab'
however,he eloquently classified 'HADAL' into tix and tiraab using poem.It is worthy of mention that people knew the difference between tix and tiraab but his poetic line made classification of HADAL clearer and popular.


"Hoyaalayeey gabayga waa ugu horreeyaaye
Hal uma tartee ,maansadaa lagu hagaajaaye"

The above couplet simply explains the USE of hoyaalayeey.just that.l agree with you on this one Mr.X ,Rage ugaas Warfaa eloquently explained the importance of Hoyaalayeey which is an opening formula only meant to introduce a poem.ln short,he invented NOT this introductory formula but popularized its use with his famed and beautiful poetic couplet.

Go and preserve the poetic works of iidoor poets instead of blaming every single mistake made for the entire Darood.stop it,cuz you're now getting boring and unfunny with your anti-Darood campaign

No he didn't classify shit , he stated the obvious that Somali literature is traditionally divided as Tix and Tiraab. If i mention wheel in my talking it doesn't mean i invented the wheel.

Othere then that meaningless silly point, the rest of your post is typical Daarood frustrations with their baseless claim of inventing and pioneering everything, and once challenge as usual they whine and wail about the challenge.

unfortuantly the silly clannish Mullah who collected the poetry took the Daarood probaganada for Raage Ugaas wholheartly and claimed for Raage the follwoing:

1- that he coined the term "dawlad"
2- that he discovered the somali poetry scansion ( despite the fact that was only discovered in mid 1970s jointly by Caraale and Gaariye)
3- that he coined the term for money "lacag"
4- that he coined the military term "gaas".
5- that he divided somali literature into tix and tiraab.
6- that he coined Hoyalayay.


any level headed somali can right way admit that this nothing but tribalism on steroid . simply because some of these terms occurs in his poetry, and the Daarood thinking no other somali contemporary poet poetry is available to contradict their claim they assume they can attribute to Raage everything under the sun if its in his poetry.

The problem with that mentality is the ghost-busters isaaq are still around and can easily debunk this Daaroodism showcase. As usual the Daaroods imprisoned in their hubris while claiming their Raage Ugaas was the king of the somali poetry ignorantly or deliberately omitted to mention any of his duels with his contemporaries. if he was all that great why not shaw us one example of how he subdued his rivals poetically? there no such examples of that. Fortunatly the Isaaq have both side of the duels and in it Raage Ugaas the daarood white hope looses in almost all of his poetic duels with most of great isaaq poets like Muxumed Liibaan Jadeer, Xirsi Boqon and the master Aaden Axmed Dubbe.

What decides who was great is their poetry not some Daarood in a mafrish claiming their son was the greatest.

[original dervish]

I'm waiting for this creep to claim it was iidoor whom first landed on the moon.

[X.Playa]

I'm waiting for this creep to claim it was iidoor whom first landed on the moon.

Are you claiming it was a Daarood? Won't be surprised if you make that move after all so far you have claimed everything Somali as your clan invention.

[Adali]

The Kacaan did a good job preserving Somali cultural heritage of 2 centuries of colonial rule.

[original dervish]

We have the Dervish to thank that Christianity didn't spread beyond a few northern iidoor enclaves.