brboss wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:51 amsomalis on pony's future super powerBasra- wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:04 am The Somali horses resemble their masters. (Somalis) They are small framed, short, and weakly! A very opposite definition of what a stallion is. At least, compared to the majesty of the western horses.![]()
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Somali horses - some questions?
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Re: Somali horses - some questions?
It depends on what horses and there uses, the Europeans bred large horses for carrying heavy armoured knights, and for farmwork.Basra- wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:04 am The Somali horses resemble their masters. (Somalis) They are small framed, short, and weakly! A very opposite definition of what a stallion is. At least, compared to the majesty of the western horses.
Spanish horses were dependents of Arabian and North African horses only a little bigger than Somali ponies but would do well in the harsh environment.
Large destriers even the long extinct Persian nician horses would not much our little ponies in endurance.
Just like Mongol ponies ours are also lucky to have dense skeletal structure making them tougher than they look.
The Arabian horse though is majestic smaller than the European breeds only slightly larger than a pony and skinny looking but just like our ponies dense skeleton and muscles makes them. Carry almost as much as those European monsters, faster and more endurance as well.
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Little known fact, the crusaders arrived with huge destriers and rouncey's from Europe to carry those armoured knights, most died within the first year and they all had to stick with local breeds.
Bringing back those to Europe and breeding them with thier own to improve the breed.
Bringing back those to Europe and breeding them with thier own to improve the breed.
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Re: Somali horses - some questions?
gurey25 wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:53 amIt depends on what horses and there uses, the Europeans bred large horses for carrying heavy armoured knights, and for farmwork.Basra- wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:04 am The Somali horses resemble their masters. (Somalis) They are small framed, short, and weakly! A very opposite definition of what a stallion is. At least, compared to the majesty of the western horses.
Spanish horses were dependents of Arabian and North African horses only a little bigger than Somali ponies but would do well in the harsh environment.
Large destriers even the long extinct Persian nician horses would not much our little ponies in endurance.
Just like Mongol ponies ours are also lucky to have dense skeletal structure making them tougher than they look.
The Arabian horse though is majestic smaller than the European breeds only slightly larger than a pony and skinny looking but just like our ponies dense skeleton and muscles makes them. Carry almost as much as those European monsters, faster and more endurance as well.
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no doubt size doesn't mean weak, u have made your point. But for the aesthetic sake, and the look, it look pitiful seeing skinny Somalis striding along proudly on skinny horses. Yes, they are very strong like the skinny farah who sometimes surprises humanity by beating three muscular adoon with his skinny small muscle hands. I think just like the small framed Arabian and Somali horses, Somalis tend to be strong and resilient than the western large stallions. But in aesthetic view, the European horses are beautiful. I love them. But again, beauty is the eye of the beholder.
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Aesthetically I think the Arabian and Spanish horses are the best looking, slim elegant beautiful really.
Somali horses are ponies anything less than 15 hands is a pony. They don't look pretty at all.
As for skinny Somalis beating beefy adorn, I can understand that, it's simple because we are more vicious.
As a young troubled teen I was arrogant stupid and violent loved getting into brawls even though I was skinny with spaghetti arms.
I always won though because I was more vicious, while my opponent was just flexing his muscles the usual male domination games, bullying etc.
While I was driven by fear, fear of losing and too stupid to retreat abd run due to Somali arrogance.
I always won even against much bigger opponents because I used misdirection and striking first and hard,
And making sure to kick them and keep them when they fall, never letting up.
It as fear because if they recovered from the shock even a little bit I would be overpowered like a little girl.
I only cooled down after studying martial arts, after that I stayed away from conflict and became very good at conflict resolution, again driven by fear because I understood how vulnerable the human body is and how easy it is to kill and maim.

Somali horses are ponies anything less than 15 hands is a pony. They don't look pretty at all.
As for skinny Somalis beating beefy adorn, I can understand that, it's simple because we are more vicious.
As a young troubled teen I was arrogant stupid and violent loved getting into brawls even though I was skinny with spaghetti arms.
I always won though because I was more vicious, while my opponent was just flexing his muscles the usual male domination games, bullying etc.
While I was driven by fear, fear of losing and too stupid to retreat abd run due to Somali arrogance.
I always won even against much bigger opponents because I used misdirection and striking first and hard,
And making sure to kick them and keep them when they fall, never letting up.
It as fear because if they recovered from the shock even a little bit I would be overpowered like a little girl.
I only cooled down after studying martial arts, after that I stayed away from conflict and became very good at conflict resolution, again driven by fear because I understood how vulnerable the human body is and how easy it is to kill and maim.
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Re: Somali horses - some questions?
Abyssinian Horse > Somali pony

Geeljires could never rival us qotis when it comes to horsemanship


Geeljires could never rival us qotis when it comes to horsemanship

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Oromo horses > Somali ponies
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That horse with its legs crossed like an X is about to collapse from the weight or has diarrhea, something is wrong they know it, check their faces.

Re: Somali horses - some questions?
I always wondered why Somalis didn’t adopt mounted archery like the Central Asians instead of mounted javelins and spearmen. It seems perfect for our geography. Very open and flat land meaning it’s the best way to defend against people raiding your livestock, engage and easy retreat. Similar to the steppes.gurey25 wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:44 am I'm surprised that Somalis didn't innovate enough, faced with a huge light cavalry army like the eastern clans someone should have attempted heavy infantry with a shield wall to hold against the light cavalry and a small force of heavy armoured cavalry with lances to charge into the enemy and break them. You will still need allot of light cavalry on your flanks and as outriders recon and chasing after the enemy.
Nothing technologically challenging, the armour could just be boiled leather and maybe a shield to deflect spears.
To your question, I think it’s because nomadic pastoralists are skilled in predominantly hit & run attacks, raiding, etc. Pitched battles were rare.
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