Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Daily chitchat on Somali politics.

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
TheblueNwhite
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 11301
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:34 pm
Contact:

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by TheblueNwhite »

Firing them wont solve the security problem. Thats for sure.

Former AS who recently defected is the head of intelligence gathering at NISA. Why not fire him, along with all the mid ranking security agents who failed to do their jobs?

Sanbalolshe gets sacked right after 3/5 terrorists that attacked Nasahablod2 got caught alive. I heard they worked for NISA, not sure if its true or not.
Why fire the head of NISA now? Let him submit the report first, then sack him if need be. The guy is a straight shooter and nobody wants that. Remember QalbiDhagax. He didnt even hesitate on SNTV for a second.
As for Saacid or Farxiya Fiska as he is known in Xamar should never have been appointed in the first place.
User avatar
sahal80
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 21185
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:49 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by sahal80 »

Nothing will stop until Farmaajo gets kicked out of Xamar abd he will. Thse attacks r happening because of him, yesterday HG hotel and today abgaal hotel to incite hiraab against him and tomorrow maybe hawadle hotel aka ambassador and even some murursade hotel

Well im glad sanbalolshe is out to keep my clan away from this dirty govt. He is an mp btw he knew this job will not last so he refued to give up his parliament seat and he is joining the UAE camp like ccc and caynte


Khayre got angery and called him bc of this article in newyork times looking for excuses to fire him and after this attack he ordered his deputy to chair the cabinet and fire him. that can tell you him been the next bc sanbalilshe is hated locally abd was keeping him for this day to ease the pressure so all their cards are finish and now is about khayre that why he is keeping the security minister to prolong his stay

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/o ... orism.html


People r getting killed bc of a man who cant defend them bc himself is a magan at his inlaws i mean farmaajo. Thats the fact hate it or not. Over 1000 people r killed in 8 months and huge economic loses and revenue. my clan has lost 20 people in zoobe attack some of them had pharmacies in there.


FAmaajo is finish he has no support even in kismaayo and garoowe why they r keeping him in xamar?
User avatar
sahal80
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 21185
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:49 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by sahal80 »

Canuck2 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:45 pm
Murax wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:34 pm The question is who will replace them? If its people who are also incompetent then whats the point?
Simply bring back the old security experts before 91. They were graduated from Russia and states. At least they are better than these fake generals that HSM promoted in 4 years. One man was football referee became general during HSM.
all this is bullshit. This is not like the old somalia todays xamar belongs to a qabiil like garoowe and hargeysa. Attacks r happening bc of farmaajo lacking local support if you bring even russia nothing will stop. Current attacks are aimed at the normal people and at the dominant clans of xamar to inflame the situation.

These r the new al shabaab tactics what can farmaajo do about it? If you dont have good policies to work with these clans then hit the road.
Canuck2
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3180
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:11 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by Canuck2 »

sahal80 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:40 pm
Canuck2 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:45 pm
Murax wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:34 pm The question is who will replace them? If its people who are also incompetent then whats the point?
Simply bring back the old security experts before 91. They were graduated from Russia and states. At least they are better than these fake generals that HSM promoted in 4 years. One man was football referee became general during HSM.
all this is bullshit. This is not like the old somalia todays xamar belongs to a qabiil like garoowe and hargeysa. Attacks r happening bc of farmaajo lacking local support if you bring even russia nothing will stop. Current attacks are aimed at the normal people and at the dominant clans of xamar to inflame the situation.

These r the new al shabaab tactics what can farmaajo do about it? If you dont have good policies to work with these clans then hit the road.
Xamar belongs to a qabiil !!!!! I thought that capital belongs to all not tribe, for example Canada the capital is Ottawa; while Toronto is capital of region state Ontario.
However it xamar belongs to one qabiil then that qabiil should secure it unlike hargeisa and Garowe (although these two cuties are multi tribes, people don’t have property disputes there)
Canuck2
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3180
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:11 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by Canuck2 »

sahal80 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:44 pm Nothing will stop until Farmaajo gets kicked out of Xamar abd he will. Thse attacks r happening because of him, yesterday HG hotel and today abgaal hotel to incite hiraab against him and tomorrow maybe hawadle hotel aka ambassador and even some murursade hotel

Well im glad sanbalolshe is out to keep my clan away from this dirty govt. He is an mp btw he knew this job will not last so he refued to give up his parliament seat and he is joining the UAE camp like ccc and caynte


Khayre got angery and called him bc of this article in newyork times looking for excuses to fire him and after this attack he ordered his deputy to chair the cabinet and fire him. that can tell you him been the next bc sanbalilshe is hated locally abd was keeping him for this day to ease the pressure so all their cards are finish and now is about khayre that why he is keeping the security minister to prolong his stay

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/o ... orism.html


People r getting killed bc of a man who cant defend them bc himself is a magan at his inlaws i mean farmaajo. Thats the fact hate it or not. Over 1000 people r killed in 8 months and huge economic loses and revenue. my clan has lost 20 people in zoobe attack some of them had pharmacies in there.


FAmaajo is finish he has no support even in kismaayo and garoowe why they r keeping him in xamar?
First AUN for your relatives. Second, If farmaajo goes, then get ready to CCC / Sharif sakin and cashlords that would sell what has left from Somalia. Yes, the Mogadishu will be safe because (they were behind......)
User avatar
sahal80
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 21185
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:49 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by sahal80 »

Canuck2 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:10 pm
sahal80 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:40 pm
Canuck2 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:45 pm

Simply bring back the old security experts before 91. They were graduated from Russia and states. At least they are better than these fake generals that HSM promoted in 4 years. One man was football referee became general during HSM.
all this is bullshit. This is not like the old somalia todays xamar belongs to a qabiil like garoowe and hargeysa. Attacks r happening bc of farmaajo lacking local support if you bring even russia nothing will stop. Current attacks are aimed at the normal people and at the dominant clans of xamar to inflame the situation.

These r the new al shabaab tactics what can farmaajo do about it? If you dont have good policies to work with these clans then hit the road.
Xamar belongs to a qabiil !!!!! I thought that capital belongs to all not tribe, for example Canada the capital is Ottawa; while Toronto is capital of region state Ontario.
However it xamar belongs to one qabiil then that qabiil should secure it unlike hargeisa and Garowe (although these two cuties are multi tribes, people don’t have property disputes there)
only in paper. Per same dastuur you cant deport somali citizens from from PL ,etc

Per same dastuur, all regions cannot have port contracts with foreign countries why only xamar?? Take the dastuur as a whole or leave it as a whole

Btw mogadishu status hasnt been sorted out yet but its the seat of the SFG


Yes i believe the capital to be national every one can stay and have business in there or work for the govt but politically speaking it belongs to certain qabiils even they consist 90% of the army and polce. Your using their kids for protection yet you wanna say im here bc of my pro al shabab small ass inlaws? this dhaadhaan shigshigaaye must go. When im talking for xamar im not speaking for my hiraan clan im just stating what is wrong with this guy who wasting our time. 470 people killed in the last 15 days but those who supporting farmaajo r supporting him for qabiil reasons they dont care who gets killed.


Wadaninimadiina waa tan; teydana anaa leh, dawlada xamareey ku egtahay. Maxaa diidaya in dadka xamar amarkooda socdo? Dawlada federalka dalka dhan bay masuul ka tahay laakiin lagama ogala walaa xataa kismaayo oo qabiilka farmaajo dego.
original dervish
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 29468
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:08 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by original dervish »

If the elites and war profiteers of the dominant Xamar clans are against Farmaajo.....he must be doing something right and deserves our support. :)
Zoomalia4Kucks
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 1069
Joined: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:54 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by Zoomalia4Kucks »

Hawiye need to chase the Doofarood bastards out of Mogadishu. You give a dumb doofarood power and he immediately plots with foreign govs against own citizens.
Canuck2
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3180
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:11 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by Canuck2 »

sahal80 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:40 pm
Canuck2 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:10 pm
sahal80 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:40 pm all this is bullshit. This is not like the old somalia todays xamar belongs to a qabiil like garoowe and hargeysa. Attacks r happening bc of farmaajo lacking local support if you bring even russia nothing will stop. Current attacks are aimed at the normal people and at the dominant clans of xamar to inflame the situation.

These r the new al shabaab tactics what can farmaajo do about it? If you dont have good policies to work with these clans then hit the road.
Xamar belongs to a qabiil !!!!! I thought that capital belongs to all not tribe, for example Canada the capital is Ottawa; while Toronto is capital of region state Ontario.
However it xamar belongs to one qabiil then that qabiil should secure it unlike hargeisa and Garowe (although these two cuties are multi tribes, people don’t have property disputes there)
only in paper. Per same dastuur you cant deport somali citizens from from PL ,etc

Per same dastuur, all regions cannot have port contracts with foreign countries why only xamar?? Take the dastuur as a whole or leave it as a whole

Btw mogadishu status hasnt been sorted out yet but its the seat of the SFG


Yes i believe the capital to be national every one can stay and have business in there or work for the govt but politically speaking it belongs to certain qabiils even they consist 90% of the army and polce. Your using their kids for protection yet you wanna say im here bc of my pro al shabab small ass inlaws? this dhaadhaan shigshigaaye must go. When im talking for xamar im not speaking for my hiraan clan im just stating what is wrong with this guy who wasting our time. 470 people killed in the last 15 days but those who supporting farmaajo r supporting him for qabiil reasons they dont care who gets killed.


Wadaninimadiina waa tan; teydana anaa leh, dawlada xamareey ku egtahay. Maxaa diidaya in dadka xamar amarkooda socdo? Dawlada federalka dalka dhan bay masuul ka tahay laakiin lagama ogala walaa xataa kismaayo oo qabiilka farmaajo dego.

As you said 90% of police/NISA and army are from one qabiil hawyie in xamar and couldn’t protect themselves and their business!!!!!! The problem is with reer xamar not president.
User avatar
sahal80
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 21185
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:49 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by sahal80 »

Canuck2 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:40 am
sahal80 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:40 pm
Canuck2 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:10 pm

Xamar belongs to a qabiil !!!!! I thought that capital belongs to all not tribe, for example Canada the capital is Ottawa; while Toronto is capital of region state Ontario.
However it xamar belongs to one qabiil then that qabiil should secure it unlike hargeisa and Garowe (although these two cuties are multi tribes, people don’t have property disputes there)
only in paper. Per same dastuur you cant deport somali citizens from from PL ,etc

Per same dastuur, all regions cannot have port contracts with foreign countries why only xamar?? Take the dastuur as a whole or leave it as a whole

Btw mogadishu status hasnt been sorted out yet but its the seat of the SFG


Yes i believe the capital to be national every one can stay and have business in there or work for the govt but politically speaking it belongs to certain qabiils even they consist 90% of the army and polce. Your using their kids for protection yet you wanna say im here bc of my pro al shabab small ass inlaws? this dhaadhaan shigshigaaye must go. When im talking for xamar im not speaking for my hiraan clan im just stating what is wrong with this guy who wasting our time. 470 people killed in the last 15 days but those who supporting farmaajo r supporting him for qabiil reasons they dont care who gets killed.


Wadaninimadiina waa tan; teydana anaa leh, dawlada xamareey ku egtahay. Maxaa diidaya in dadka xamar amarkooda socdo? Dawlada federalka dalka dhan bay masuul ka tahay laakiin lagama ogala walaa xataa kismaayo oo qabiilka farmaajo dego.

As you said 90% of police/NISA and army are from one qabiil hawyie in xamar and couldn’t protect themselves and their business!!!!!! The problem is with reer xamar not president.
i dont think you get my point. 90% of the army is abgaal and HG(Hiraab) im not talking for others do you understand? How can any govt succeed without their backing? And to add insult to injury Al shabaab is targeting these two clans to inflame the situation and this weak ass idiot is prying behind his wife. Thats not how to run a govt. The people in xamar should get rid of this idiot before they lose more thousands.

Xamar cannot be ruled except by a local politicians even the IC knows this but amisom hasnt get hurted yet bc the SNA still in the fronts. Xamar doesnt need afarjeebles. The local politicans should learn from the people getting deceived by manaxayaal losers just bc they want change.
User avatar
sahal80
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 21185
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:49 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by sahal80 »

Wallahi ciidamada xamar have no clan loyality and r too nice. Reason why buuloburde highway is not open is bc of the army asking to appoint a mayor who is one of them. even Djibouti has been asking us for this but when the region was under the interior HG ministry they used to appoint a badicade mayor. Now that we have a regional govt we appointed hassan muuse mayor(sanbalolshe jufo) to fight like their mohamed hassan brothers of maxaas and moqokori. Osoble has changed this and now waare has told baadicade give an army if you want a mayor. Not just bulaburde, waare wants to open the highway between jowhar and hiiraan and this depends on the support of his
Yabarmadaxwayne jufo in jalalaqsi and the border areas besides ibrahin ciise the jufo of abdirizaq cumar. f-king security dardargaling is on the way as all admin is hawadle. This reminds me those in xamar who want to rule without army!
http://www.hirannews.com/2017/09/29/mad ... agaalanta/
Canuck2
SomaliNet Heavyweight
SomaliNet Heavyweight
Posts: 3180
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:11 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by Canuck2 »

sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:35 am
Canuck2 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:40 am
sahal80 wrote: Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:40 pm only in paper. Per same dastuur you cant deport somali citizens from from PL ,etc

Per same dastuur, all regions cannot have port contracts with foreign countries why only xamar?? Take the dastuur as a whole or leave it as a whole

Btw mogadishu status hasnt been sorted out yet but its the seat of the SFG


Yes i believe the capital to be national every one can stay and have business in there or work for the govt but politically speaking it belongs to certain qabiils even they consist 90% of the army and polce. Your using their kids for protection yet you wanna say im here bc of my pro al shabab small ass inlaws? this dhaadhaan shigshigaaye must go. When im talking for xamar im not speaking for my hiraan clan im just stating what is wrong with this guy who wasting our time. 470 people killed in the last 15 days but those who supporting farmaajo r supporting him for qabiil reasons they dont care who gets killed.


Wadaninimadiina waa tan; teydana anaa leh, dawlada xamareey ku egtahay. Maxaa diidaya in dadka xamar amarkooda socdo? Dawlada federalka dalka dhan bay masuul ka tahay laakiin lagama ogala walaa xataa kismaayo oo qabiilka farmaajo dego.

As you said 90% of police/NISA and army are from one qabiil hawyie in xamar and couldn’t protect themselves and their business!!!!!! The problem is with reer xamar not president.
i dont think you get my point. 90% of the army is abgaal and HG(Hiraab) im not talking for others do you understand? How can any govt succeed without their backing? And to add insult to injury Al shabaab is targeting these two clans to inflame the situation and this weak ass idiot is prying behind his wife. Thats not how to run a govt. The people in xamar should get rid of this idiot before they lose more thousands.

Xamar cannot be ruled except by a local politicians even the IC knows this but amisom hasnt get hurted yet bc the SNA still in the fronts. Xamar doesnt need afarjeebles. The local politicans should learn from the people getting deceived by manaxayaal losers just bc they want change.
So we came back to square number one, unless I ruled, I turn blind to al kebab. 90% of police/army hawyie do not want to do their job because the president is from different qabiil.
In my humble opinion the capital should be changed simply that and local of new capital will secure it.
saraohyland
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:02 am

Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by saraohyland »

its too good
original dervish
SomaliNet Super
SomaliNet Super
Posts: 29468
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:08 pm

Re: Intelligence cheif and head of police fired

Post by original dervish »

We have to face reality.......the Hawiye are not really interested in Govt etc. :)
Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Politics - General Discussions”