Farmaajo's travel to Guri-Ceel was my favorite of the whole trip

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Re: Farmaajo's travel to Guri-Ceel was my favorite of the whole trip

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BVSNet wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:46 pm
SultanOrder wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:37 pm
BVSNet wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:27 am It was your favourite because you think all is forgiven?

No one is going to forget that Farmaajo's incompetent administration murdered 5 men and a pregnant woman. That case will likely go to the international criminal courts.

The personal admittance of the President and Prime Minister that they are incompetent and their apology is the only reason this trip was possible. They are being given the benefit of the doubt.


If Farmajo is incapable and if he will continue to blame outside forces for his failures then he should just step down now before people start to take up arms to defend themselves from a foreign controlled army and a government too incompetent to do anything about it.
What happened was very tragic, and unfortunate. Innocent lives in Somalia seem to be a cheap commodity and I hope that changes soon. We do need accountability, and every administration should be taken to account. I remember when Ahmed Daci in 2014 was attacked in the dawn and four civilians were killed and 10 were wounded there wasn't much done. It needs to change.

Indeed administrations have to be taken to account. Civilians were killed in the attack with AMISOM on Daci's house during the disarmament campaign and every innocent person who died during HSM's term is on HSM's head.

The difference with Farmaajo is that his administration is attacking, raiding and threatening the lives of the political opposition. That is a dangerous and destructive path that Farmaajo's administration is taking. It has to stop, that was what got us in this mess in the first place. Somalia cannot move backwards after all these years.

What's happening is shocking and unprecedented.
If that is the path Farmaajo's administration is taking, then it isn't new. Did you already forget how HSM supported the war in Kismaayo between Barre Hiraale's forces vs Ahmed Madoobe's? You weren't very susceptible to the arguments of HSM's opposition at the time and their dire warnings.

You blame Farmaajo for being either incompetent or behind these attacks, or his administration. Indeed we have seen that Farmaajo and Khayre have both denounced the attack on Senator Abdi Qaybdiid's house. If Farmaajo was truly behind it, would Qabydiid accompanied Farmaajo in Galmudug? I'm sorry but I refuse to judge this government on the same level as Britain or America. There is a reality on the ground. The government will insha'allah improve in having control over it's institutions and soldiers, but it has always been tentative at best.

I'm glad to see that you are in the opposition, but I hope your opposition isn't characterized by the same fanaticism your support of HSM was.
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This is Africa and wild Somalis need semi authoritarian gov that checks unruly war profiteers and traitors like abdishakur.
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Mashallah.
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SultanOrder wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:55 am
BVSNet wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:46 pm
SultanOrder wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:37 pm
What happened was very tragic, and unfortunate. Innocent lives in Somalia seem to be a cheap commodity and I hope that changes soon. We do need accountability, and every administration should be taken to account. I remember when Ahmed Daci in 2014 was attacked in the dawn and four civilians were killed and 10 were wounded there wasn't much done. It needs to change.

Indeed administrations have to be taken to account. Civilians were killed in the attack with AMISOM on Daci's house during the disarmament campaign and every innocent person who died during HSM's term is on HSM's head.

The difference with Farmaajo is that his administration is attacking, raiding and threatening the lives of the political opposition. That is a dangerous and destructive path that Farmaajo's administration is taking. It has to stop, that was what got us in this mess in the first place. Somalia cannot move backwards after all these years.

What's happening is shocking and unprecedented.
If that is the path Farmaajo's administration is taking, then it isn't new. Did you already forget how HSM supported the war in Kismaayo between Barre Hiraale's forces vs Ahmed Madoobe's? You weren't very susceptible to the arguments of HSM's opposition at the time and their dire warnings.

You blame Farmaajo for being either incompetent or behind these attacks, or his administration. Indeed we have seen that Farmaajo and Khayre have both denounced the attack on Senator Abdi Qaybdiid's house. If Farmaajo was truly behind it, would Qabydiid accompanied Farmaajo in Galmudug? I'm sorry but I refuse to judge this government on the same level as Britain or America. There is a reality on the ground. The government will insha'allah improve in having control over it's institutions and soldiers, but it has always been tentative at best.

I'm glad to see that you are in the opposition, but I hope your opposition isn't characterized by the same fanaticism your support of HSM was.
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BV is not being objective in her criticism, being critical of a government for the sake of HSM is retarded, look to the future not the past.
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SultanOrder wrote: If that is the path Farmaajo's administration is taking, then it isn't new. Did you already forget how HSM supported the war in Kismaayo between Barre Hiraale's forces vs Ahmed Madoobe's? You weren't very susceptible to the arguments of HSM's opposition at the time and their dire warnings.

You blame Farmaajo for being either incompetent or behind these attacks, or his administration. Indeed we have seen that Farmaajo and Khayre have both denounced the attack on Senator Abdi Qaybdiid's house. If Farmaajo was truly behind it, would Qabydiid accompanied Farmaajo in Galmudug? I'm sorry but I refuse to judge this government on the same level as Britain or America. There is a reality on the ground. The government will insha'allah improve in having control over it's institutions and soldiers, but it has always been tentative at best.

I'm glad to see that you are in the opposition, but I hope your opposition isn't characterized by the same fanaticism your support of HSM was.


So your approach to the blatant harassment of politicians and dangerous path Farmaajo's administration is on is to say "HSM did it too"? I expected more from you. But in any case that is not true. The fight for dominance in Jubbaland (between Madobee's forces and Barre Hiraale's) is not the same as the government sending the army to raid the home of a politician in the middle of the night and shooting up the place killing 6 people. The President's office behaving in such an irresponsible, violent and arrogant manner is risking everything for Somalia. It's horrific considering everything that Somalia has been through, this behaviour risks unravelling the tentative peace.

Farmaajo is an American citizen, when his term is up he is going to go back to his home in America. So yes, he should be judged to the highest of standards because no one forced him to stand for presidency and he will not have to live with the consequences of his actions. The question is whether he is doing the best job he can and sorry but shooting up people's homes in the middle of the night and actively seeking to or being too incompetent to do anything about a policy that blatantly targets a specific qabiil in this day and age is unacceptable.

As for Qeydiid, yes the PM and President apologised for government forces raiding the senator's house but what has been done since? Qeybdiid gave the administration the benefit of the doubt and the chance and the time to take action but they remain incompetent (or complicit) because they have done nothing to get to the bottom of the attack. If you haven't been following the news check it out. The lives of politicians are at risk with this administration, they have showed it over and over again. That is not what Somalia needs, forcing people to defend themselves from the government.
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BVSNet wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:27 pm
SultanOrder wrote: If that is the path Farmaajo's administration is taking, then it isn't new. Did you already forget how HSM supported the war in Kismaayo between Barre Hiraale's forces vs Ahmed Madoobe's? You weren't very susceptible to the arguments of HSM's opposition at the time and their dire warnings.

You blame Farmaajo for being either incompetent or behind these attacks, or his administration. Indeed we have seen that Farmaajo and Khayre have both denounced the attack on Senator Abdi Qaybdiid's house. If Farmaajo was truly behind it, would Qabydiid accompanied Farmaajo in Galmudug? I'm sorry but I refuse to judge this government on the same level as Britain or America. There is a reality on the ground. The government will insha'allah improve in having control over it's institutions and soldiers, but it has always been tentative at best.

I'm glad to see that you are in the opposition, but I hope your opposition isn't characterized by the same fanaticism your support of HSM was.


So your approach to the blatant harassment of politicians and dangerous path Farmaajo's administration is on is to say "HSM did it too"? I expected more from you. But in any case that is not true. The fight for dominance in Jubbaland (between Madobee's forces and Barre Hiraale's) is not the same as the government sending the army to raid the home of a politician in the middle of the night and shooting up the place killing 6 people. The President's office behaving in such an irresponsible, violent and arrogant manner is risking everything for Somalia. It's horrific considering everything that Somalia has been through, this behaviour risks unravelling the tentative peace.

Farmaajo is an American citizen, when his term is up he is going to go back to his home in America. So yes, he should be judged to the highest of standards because no one forced him to stand for presidency and he will not have to live with the consequences of his actions. The question is whether he is doing the best job he can and sorry but shooting up people's homes in the middle of the night and actively seeking to or being too incompetent to do anything about a policy that blatantly targets a specific qabiil in this day and age is unacceptable.

As for Qeydiid, yes the PM and President apologised for government forces raiding the senator's house but what has been done since? Qeybdiid gave the administration the benefit of the doubt and the chance and the time to take action but they remain incompetent (or complicit) because they have done nothing to get to the bottom of the attack. If you haven't been following the news check it out. The lives of politicians are at risk with this administration, they have showed it over and over again. That is not what Somalia needs, forcing people to defend themselves from the government.
Is Habar Gidir preparing an insurrection? You keep giving off these dire warnings of people rising up and Somalia going backwards. And now you talk about a specific qabil being targeted. What are you saying?
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SultanOrder wrote: Is Habar Gidir preparing an insurrection? You keep giving off these dire warnings of people rising up and Somalia going backwards. And now you talk about a specific qabil being targeted. What are you saying?
I'm giving warnings about a government that is trampling on laws, harassing politicians and acting like a bully in a country that has a history of dictatorship and a recent civil war.

I'm saying that Farmaajo's government is risking alienating and fracturing Somalia in a way that is going to take us way back. The federal states have come together and named their own elected president (Gaas). Read what your own brother wrote, numerous attacks on civilians from a particular clan (Habar Gidir), arresting leaders of an opposition party (when that is actually the direction we need to go in to move away from 4.5).

It's hugely disappointing and scary.
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BVSNet wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:03 pm
SultanOrder wrote: Is Habar Gidir preparing an insurrection? You keep giving off these dire warnings of people rising up and Somalia going backwards. And now you talk about a specific qabil being targeted. What are you saying?
I'm giving warnings about a government that is trampling on laws, harassing politicians and acting like a bully in a country that has a history of dictatorship and a recent civil war.

I'm saying that Farmaajo's government is risking alienating and fracturing Somalia in a way that is going to take us way back. The federal states have come together and named their own elected president (Gaas). Read what your own brother wrote, numerous attacks on civilians from a particular clan (Habar Gidir), arresting leaders of an opposition party (when that is actually the direction we need to go in to move away from 4.5).

It's hugely disappointing and scary.
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I thought she was smarter than that.........Gaas for president? :russ:
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Gaas is now President :pac:

She should focus on the cambuulo in the dirty kitchen she failed to maintain :russ:
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grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:12 pm Gaas is now President :pac:

She should focus on the cambuulo in the dirty kitchen she failed to maintain :russ:
I once had a marexaan flatmate (probably one of u's uncle) that had everyday cambuulo for casho. So you gonna have to come up with better insults than red beans.
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grandpakhalif wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:12 pm Gaas is now President :pac:

She should focus on the cambuulo in the dirty kitchen she failed to maintain :russ:
Ive been to cabudwaaq sxp cambuulo wa laga faana :russ: eelay iyo hawiye leh cuna baasto hawiya aya la dhahay :russ: hilib geel is our delicacy
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Walahi am not lying nigga had cambuulo addiction that was extreme, nonetheless healthy. War cambuulo waa cuunto; waa beans; I would rather eat that than resort to hyena -- sorry had to go there as you left me no choice :eat:
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Besides, she is having this debate with ur cousin maxaa idhiin waalay aad uu attackgareeyneysiin?? Because she is critical of Uncle Farmaajo?? even OD is triggered by her posts :lol:
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FarhanYare wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:42 am Walahi am not lying nigga had cambuulo addiction that was extreme, nonetheless healthy. War cambuulo waa cuunto; waa beans; I would rather eat that than resort to hyena -- sorry had to go there as you left me no choice :eat:
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