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Re: dhules are always patriotic and gets treaty like dirty

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abdikarim86 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:49 pm Sxb - I am in agreement with you in principle.
Laakin I cannot help but be attracted to the idea of a Daarood free SL :lol: - I merely suggested it to draw attention to an interesting topic made by Gurey a few years back. Very eye-opening.

That being said though - Having to tolerate people we would would rather do without has been a blessing in disguise. Tolerating our enemies and allowing them full freedom has made us a better people. Maybe it is God's way of shaping us in to a better people in the long-term.

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I must admit a Darod-free Somaliland sounds great, but why compromise when we can eventually achieve the same result as well as retaining the full territory of Somaliland?

Best of both worlds :lol:
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Ben Dover wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:55 pm
abdikarim86 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:49 pm Sxb - I am in agreement with you in principle.
Laakin I cannot help but be attracted to the idea of a Daarood free SL :lol: - I merely suggested it to draw attention to an interesting topic made by Gurey a few years back. Very eye-opening.

That being said though - Having to tolerate people we would would rather do without has been a blessing in disguise. Tolerating our enemies and allowing them full freedom has made us a better people. Maybe it is God's way of shaping us in to a better people in the long-term.

:dj:
I must admit a Darod-free Somaliland sounds great, but why compromise when we can eventually achieve the same result as well as retaining the full territory of Somaliland?

Best of both worlds :lol:
That would involve very un-Isaaq like behaviour. :lol:
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abdikarim86 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:58 pm That would involve very un-Isaaq like behaviour. :lol:
These motherfuckers are incredibly lucky Isaaq are gob. If any other group of people were in the position of Isaaq in the 90s and today, with such dominance over qurjiile wallahi they would have been toast, but Isaaq have always shown them mercy and acted with principle.

Compare Isaaqs conduct with qurjiile's gun-nimo. Boon Afweyne armed them to the teeth and ordered them to attack their Isaaq neighbours and relatives, to which the qurjiile obliged. And as soon as Isaaq fought back the cowards fled their regions and vacated their land.

In the first instance they did not refuse to attack people who have done them no harm, in the second instance they did not stand and fight. And came to Isaaq in Burco begging fearing we will do to them what they wanted to do to us.

It is true, doing what needs done would involve very un-Isaaq like deeds, but these bastards would have done the same had they had an opening. We are just in the fortunate position that they are an insignificant people.
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Ben Dover wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:07 pm
abdikarim86 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:58 pm That would involve very un-Isaaq like behaviour. :lol:
These motherfuckers are incredibly lucky Isaaq are gob. If any other group of people were in the position of Isaaq in the 90s and today, with such dominance over qurjiile wallahi they would have been toast, but Isaaq have always shown them mercy and acted with principle.

Compare Isaaqs conduct with qurjiile's gun-nimo. Boon Afweyne armed them to the teeth and ordered them to attack their Isaaq neighbours and relatives, to which the qurjiile obliged. And as soon as Isaaq fought back the cowards fled their regions and vacated their land.

In the first instance they did not refuse to attack people who have done them no harm, in the second instance they did not stand and fight. And came to Isaaq in Burco begging fearing we will do to them what they wanted to do to us.

It is true, doing what needs done would involve very un-Isaaq like deeds, but these bastards would have done the same had they had an opening. We are just in the fortunate position that they are an insignificant people.
That right there - I genuinely believe they do not number more than the Jibril Abokor of SM - When you compare the density in population of that district with the emptiness of Sool.

Had their numbers been significant - I think it would have been not in our interest for leniency to be extended towards them in the 90s.
Precisely because they are so insignificant we could afford to be very tolerant.

The Jujuwiye cunt Cabdiwahab was boasting about Somalia having a policy of arming the Dhulbahante against us a second time. I wonder what effect this will have on the Dhulbahante in the coming wars if Somalia finally gets the balls to implement its policy towards SL.

We shall see where our tolerance got us - Will they be at the very least neutral or go to war against us? :lol:
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Somaliland knows how to deal with Its citizens. Tolerance + military pressure + development+ devide and rule . Even isaaq themselves cant challenge Somaliland existence. If one juffi of dhuloos or habarjeclo make noice the government knows how to empower their rival juffi. So every one is forced to stay loyal for Somaliland. Somaliland has the right formula to control Its wild clans.
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Dhuloos cant secede because the government will deploy an army from all other clans to their territory. Habarjeclo cant do the same because the rest will karbaash. Samaron cant move because they know the consequence . Garxajis have already seen the horor of maryo alool. And but least HA cant risk what little they have today . They know hargeisa and Berbera will be a fire and fury.

We are all subjects of Somaliland , kneel down for the Holly republic. There is no way out. :lol:
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Dhuloos cant secede because the government will deploy an army from all other clans to their territory. Habarjeclo cant do the same because the rest will karbaash. Samaron cant move because they know the consequence . Garxajis have already seen the horor of maryo alool. And last but least HA cant risk what little they have today . They know hargeisa and Berbera will be a fire and fury.

We are all subjects of Somaliland , kneel down for the Holly republic. There is no way out. :lol:
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abdikarim86 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:40 pm
SuldaanOfSanaag wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:26 pm
abdikarim86 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:12 pm
You bloody fool. If Dhulbahanta are the definition of patriotism to you - Look up its meaning - Those two things are are mutually exclusive.

Dhulbahanta and the rest of the Daaroods & Hawiyes want the dismemberment of SL and the subsequent castration and domination of SL by the criminals of the Amisom project down south.

And you want to make it easier for them - Kindness and Respect towards our enemies will not do - For none will be shown in return.

Dhulbahanta are to be tolerated and no atrocities should be committed against them (We have after all chosen to bind ourselves to Islam) but ABSOLUTELY everything must be done to make sure those fuckers do not link up with our enemies and stab us in the back (Or front :lol: ).

I remember Gurey25 made a topic about the very same idea you have - For them to have their own state. The replies were very telling, search it up.

In the coming negotiations - They can be used as bargaining chip - SL recognition for in return of us leaving their lands. That is the only option open to us, everything else is suicide.
Waarya keep you your calcaal to yourself. what I was trying to saying supporting somalia is doing them no good they might aswell form a state. With somaliland there are pro dhuloz who support. you and Khalid who can't stand thrm want them to join SL.


I think somaliland has done more for them somalia has done. and soon.or later they will get fed up join Somaliland fully which I support.
Calaacal is too often the word employed by people who are unable to stare truth in the face and wish to continue with their ignorance and naivety.

I want the land sxb - That is all that is important. In order to hold that land with as little trouble as possible full tolerance should be extended to the Qurjiile nation and they should be able to be fully free within SL - Nobody is arguing with this.

Tens of thousands of their people already live among the Isaaq in Hargeysa, Burco, Ceerigaabo and Berbera. Nobody gives them trouble and it should stay and will that way.

Laakin to entertain yourself with the notion that they support SL or are amicable to it, is pure naivety on your side.
To entertain giving them state is pure ignorance of our interests on your side.

Have you even thought it through - Will it be a federal state, meaning taking orders from Xamar? That will spell the death knell of SL.
The criminals of the south want the dismemberment of the North into small chunks for them to swallow.

A federal Dhulbahante state on our doorstep - Armed by our enemies will mean total war from us and the setback of our goals by decades. And you have the audacity to welcome this.
You missing the point entirely. I've said they might might aswell form their own goverment instead of wailing and waving the :som: for somalia who does nothing for them.

on the part you said I want to dismemberment somaliland. didn't u just advocate the same when you said I would let them go for recognition :lol: confused or what.

I would preferably they fully join Somaliland and some have. others will always be pro puntland and somalia dhuloz

some dhuloz would be anti :sland: even if you give them ton of gold and everything. :snoop: they hate the idea of somaliland becaming successfully and giving them orders.

But i was merely making a point that mogdisho hasn't got their interested in its agenda.

Somaliland has to be more serious about the east side of the country and put resource and security there if they want a fully united country.
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SuldaanOfSanaag wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:02 pm most dhules going way back since sayyed abdulahi days have been pro somalia goverment but there region is the least developed considering they are big tribe. no port, No airport. towns are way behind others cities who were small a decade ago.

But they always the ones who sacrificea lot but get sideline. maybe goverment know they forever loyal and takes them for a ride and tries to please opposition or anti government tribes.

I for one always respected their patriotic and courage but think they need to put themself first. even if they form.their own state. they stuck between a rock n hard place.

On the contrary!.....The eras of the mad mullah and the Afweyne Regime plus the 26+years of Somaliland Rule (and Puntland too ) are testament to the fact that Dhulbahante are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people.
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Dhulbahante doesn’t not need any testimonials from people who were displayed in zoo in the past.
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Small advice cut the khat thing, it is literally ruined your brains.
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SuldaanOfSanaag wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:18 pm
abdikarim86 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:40 pm
SuldaanOfSanaag wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:26 pm

Waarya keep you your calcaal to yourself. what I was trying to saying supporting somalia is doing them no good they might aswell form a state. With somaliland there are pro dhuloz who support. you and Khalid who can't stand thrm want them to join SL.


I think somaliland has done more for them somalia has done. and soon.or later they will get fed up join Somaliland fully which I support.
Calaacal is too often the word employed by people who are unable to stare truth in the face and wish to continue with their ignorance and naivety.

I want the land sxb - That is all that is important. In order to hold that land with as little trouble as possible full tolerance should be extended to the Qurjiile nation and they should be able to be fully free within SL - Nobody is arguing with this.

Tens of thousands of their people already live among the Isaaq in Hargeysa, Burco, Ceerigaabo and Berbera. Nobody gives them trouble and it should stay and will that way.

Laakin to entertain yourself with the notion that they support SL or are amicable to it, is pure naivety on your side.
To entertain giving them state is pure ignorance of our interests on your side.

Have you even thought it through - Will it be a federal state, meaning taking orders from Xamar? That will spell the death knell of SL.
The criminals of the south want the dismemberment of the North into small chunks for them to swallow.

A federal Dhulbahante state on our doorstep - Armed by our enemies will mean total war from us and the setback of our goals by decades. And you have the audacity to welcome this.
You missing the point entirely. I've said they might might aswell form their own goverment instead of wailing and waving the :som: for somalia who does nothing for them.

on the part you said I want to dismemberment somaliland. didn't u just advocate the same when you said I would let them go for recognition :lol: confused or what.

I would preferably they fully join Somaliland and some have. others will always be pro puntland and somalia dhuloz

some dhuloz would be anti :sland: even if you give them ton of gold and everything. :snoop: they hate the idea of somaliland becaming successfully and giving them orders.

But i was merely making a point that mogdisho hasn't got their interested in its agenda.

Somaliland has to be more serious about the east side of the country and put resource and security there if they want a fully united country.
This wailing and waving the blue flag of so called somalinimo is fake recent phenomena. They were pro Daarood and anti everything Somali and decent from 1960 to 1991.

Then Daarood were defeated and in 1991 the Dhulbahante surrendered and begged Tuur to not let the Isaaq militia take revenge on them.

From 1991 to 2005 there was not a single Isaaq soldier in their land but the level of hate was even then more then now.

In 1998 they again revived the Daaroodnimo project and joined puntland.

Now that SL is finally bitch slapping them relentlessly they cooked a plan to equate their struggle with Somali unity to get support from the naive Hawiye its a ploy to depict themselves as Somali don vs Isaaq Somali diid.

Very naive of you to be swayed by the most vile Somali clan. These people are serpent like.

Reality is the war is imminent this coming war will be bloody and there can only be two result to break the back of Daarood once and all or to give up SL. There is no macmacaan and sugar and brotherhood.

I hope the war will unite SL the election have divided the people so much and Isaaq chiefs and politicians like Faysal are daily feeding the fire.
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Canuck2 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:26 pm Dhulbahante doesn’t not need any testimonials from people who were displayed in zoo in the past.
Stupid bitch the very Dhulbahante were the majority in the human zoo project. In fact the most famous of them all Sheekh Maxamed Nur was the imaam of the human zoo workers.

Don't open up your big kintir bringing the mafrish propaganda of your people. Read dumb bitch read.
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X.Playa wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:51 pm
Canuck2 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:26 pm Dhulbahante doesn’t not need any testimonials from people who were displayed in zoo in the past.
Stupid bitch the very Dhulbahante were the majority in the human zoo project. In fact the most famous of them all Sheekh Maxamed Nur was the imaam of the human zoo workers.

Don't open up your big kintir bringing the mafrish propaganda of your people. Read dumb bitch read.
Dumb lander got triggered lol
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X.Playa wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:45 pm
SuldaanOfSanaag wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:18 pm
abdikarim86 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:40 pm
Calaacal is too often the word employed by people who are unable to stare truth in the face and wish to continue with their ignorance and naivety.

I want the land sxb - That is all that is important. In order to hold that land with as little trouble as possible full tolerance should be extended to the Qurjiile nation and they should be able to be fully free within SL - Nobody is arguing with this.

Tens of thousands of their people already live among the Isaaq in Hargeysa, Burco, Ceerigaabo and Berbera. Nobody gives them trouble and it should stay and will that way.

Laakin to entertain yourself with the notion that they support SL or are amicable to it, is pure naivety on your side.
To entertain giving them state is pure ignorance of our interests on your side.

Have you even thought it through - Will it be a federal state, meaning taking orders from Xamar? That will spell the death knell of SL.
The criminals of the south want the dismemberment of the North into small chunks for them to swallow.

A federal Dhulbahante state on our doorstep - Armed by our enemies will mean total war from us and the setback of our goals by decades. And you have the audacity to welcome this.
You missing the point entirely. I've said they might might aswell form their own goverment instead of wailing and waving the :som: for somalia who does nothing for them.

on the part you said I want to dismemberment somaliland. didn't u just advocate the same when you said I would let them go for recognition :lol: confused or what.

I would preferably they fully join Somaliland and some have. others will always be pro puntland and somalia dhuloz

some dhuloz would be anti :sland: even if you give them ton of gold and everything. :snoop: they hate the idea of somaliland becaming successfully and giving them orders.

But i was merely making a point that mogdisho hasn't got their interested in its agenda.

Somaliland has to be more serious about the east side of the country and put resource and security there if they want a fully united country.
This wailing and waving the blue flag of so called somalinimo is fake recent phenomena. They were pro Daarood and anti everything Somali and decent from 1960 to 1991.

Then Daarood were defeated and in 1991 the Dhulbahante surrendered and begged Tuur to not let the Isaaq militia take revenge on them.

From 1991 to 2005 there was not a single Isaaq soldier in their land but the level of hate was even then more then now.

In 1998 they again revived the Daaroodnimo project and joined puntland.

Now that SL is finally bitch slapping them relentlessly they cooked a plan to equate their struggle with Somali unity to get support from the naive Hawiye its a ploy to depict themselves as Somali don vs Isaaq Somali diid.

Very naive of you to be swayed by the most vile Somali clan. These people are serpent like.

Reality is the war is imminent this coming war will be bloody and there can only be two result to break the back of Daarood once and all or to give up SL. There is no macmacaan and sugar and brotherhood.

I hope the war will unite SL the election have divided the people so much and Isaaq chiefs and politicians like Faysal are daily feeding the fire.

Lol reer 3 villages are so entertaining
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