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Jabuutawi wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:05 pm ^ yo, no sane Somali wants to be part of Oromia but we wish you well, just don't come for my Dira Dhabe or any other Somali land.

So, top generals were Macca, that is Wacchis people. I knew that boy was a sell out. I respect the Afran Qallu and Arsi warriors.

Video: Women are pretty.

@Khadra Ali, bitch ass nigga, you coping out already

St8OuttaDirree wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:22 pm

Adali wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:49 pm

Waachis wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:18 pm To teeri :
When did I say oromo were perfect.
Somalia gave birth to one of the worst terrorist groups ever, remember, yet we don't generalize all Somalis.
The oromo assimilated and got assimilated, just like most nations in the horn of Africa or east Africa, it's just that they had an ingenious method for it. Assimilation is what made our nation large and able to survive while fighting both Muslim and Christian kingdoms who were armed by outsiders. While the oromo only had spears, daggers, horses, and their brave hearts. And we still managed to get the greenest land in the horn. The lands that all our neighbors look at with the envious evil eyes. We don't need to take dry nomad land from u, sorry, it's u who dreams of rich oromo farm land so u can eat. Oromos are generous though even when poor we share what we have. So no need to be envious, just buy our products.
We also have no problems with Somalis just with abdi illey and his slaves who kill and die for tigray.
Oromo believe there are no border between us ask onlf how their fighters sometimes seek shelter in oromia and how they're treated.

To jabutawi :
Somali ain't superior or inferior to oromo.
There's nothing wrong with being of oromo origin.
Khalid is an idiot who blames all southern Somali for the crimes of a regime that hasn't existed since 1991. That alone makes him a fuxking idiot. He claims to be closer to habasha yet the habasha don't feel the same.

Waachis, you have already absorbed many Somalis when you invaded our lands, Silte and Arsi oromo are originally Somali, not only are they Somali but they come from the Noble family among Somalis, you have taken Bali form us, it was Somali sultanate, you have no shame if you try to claim jubaland in 2018.

The real Oromo are our enemies, the Abo Oromo are our descendants who have been absorbed into Oromo culture, we will let it go, since you have corrupted them, however do not claim more of our land

Silte are not Somali and neither are the Arsi. Silte is a branch from gurage. They originate in the highlands.

Arsi is a mixture of Oromo and Hadiyya(really small ethnic group today) and a little mixture of Sidamas. In the old days Arsi would say we are 2 clans - Arsi & Hadiya. Today they are all mixed so everyone almost has Oromo and Hadiya amongst them. Bali was a Hadiya kingdom, not Somali.

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:59 pm

St8OuttaDirree wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:22 pm

Adali wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:49 pm

Waachis, you have already absorbed many Somalis when you invaded our lands, Silte and Arsi oromo are originally Somali, not only are they Somali but they come from the Noble family among Somalis, you have taken Bali form us, it was Somali sultanate, you have no shame if you try to claim jubaland in 2018.

The real Oromo are our enemies, the Abo Oromo are our descendants who have been absorbed into Oromo culture, we will let it go, since you have corrupted them, however do not claim more of our land

Silte are not Somali and neither are the Arsi. Silte is a branch from gurage. They originate in the highlands.

Arsi is a mixture of Oromo and Hadiyya(really small ethnic group today) and a little mixture of Sidamas. In the old days Arsi would say we are 2 clans - Arsi & Hadiya. Today they are all mixed so everyone almost has Oromo and Hadiya amongst them. Bali was a Hadiya kingdom, not Somali.

Yes Bali was kingdom of the oromized Somalis, they are no longer Somalis obviously, they have formed their own identity and I support them. The Oromo invasion is real, however as a Somali from Somalia I do not claim Arsi, Silte etc as Somali, I am just stating they used to be Somali in the middle ages, I believe they have suffered enough under Habasha imperialism, they deserve to be left alone by Oromo and Habasha alike, we wish you well from Somalia.

TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:59 pm

St8OuttaDirree wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:22 pm

Silte are not Somali and neither are the Arsi. Silte is a branch from gurage. They originate in the highlands.

Arsi is a mixture of Oromo and Hadiyya(really small ethnic group today) and a little mixture of Sidamas. In the old days Arsi would say we are 2 clans - Arsi & Hadiya. Today they are all mixed so everyone almost has Oromo and Hadiya amongst them. Bali was a Hadiya kingdom, not Somali.

Yes Bali was kingdom of the oromized Somalis, they are no longer Somalis obviously, they have formed their own identity and I support them. The Oromo invasion is real, however as a Somali from Somalia I do not claim Arsi, Silte etc as Somali, I am just stating they used to be Somali in the middle ages, I believe they have suffered enough under Habasha imperialism, they deserve to be left alone by Oromo and Habasha alike, we wish you well from Somalia.

on one hand your marehan people called Ogadens ahmars and here you are getting your nose into business you shouldn't, you make up stuff like you know the area, why do you care whats happening in ethiopia, your people dont reside there,

the very people you claim are somali hate you the most and would kill you, since when these people become somali? since when did somalis own all bale?

Ogaden has ownership and you are not allowed to speak about it, keep to somalia, the Ogaden oromo border has been sorted in 1931 when Ogaden took the last land from oromo a distarct called lagahida owned by cali nasar reer cabdule moahmed subeer clan, we have no issues and we share a border along bale, we own the east they own the west, please stop stering war,

the oromised Somalis you speak of waa confusing and hateful, because of their hate for ogaden they decided to move to oromo land, one day waa somali, next waa oromo, akisho, jaro, guregur have done these to themselves in dira dabe, they exploit both Somali and oromo and never decided what they are, you also have the issues of dir being a confused tribe that claims all sorts of gashin, just to gain numbers, i know dir in kenya who have gone to wardey and told them they are dir and will welcomed them as lost, if a wardhey starts beef years later with dir, who is to blame? waa cuqdad they have for Ogaden, they want to beef their numbers fro political reasons and it will bite them in the ass as usual,

ethiopia is very simple, you have dir who have welcomed all types of confused tribes and ethnics to claim them and try to gain pltical advantages due to their small numbers, the people infiltrate and bring out their true colours,

they should be greateful cabdi iley atleast negotiated dira dabe to be split between DDSI and ormia, dir lost it in the 90s simply because a lot of tribes they brought in to gain seats in DDSI brough outn their true colours, its a slap in the face, they are lucky they now own the north side, half is betetr than nothing like it was before King Cabdi.

then you have Ogaden, his very clear on his border and any oromo that passes will be shot, simple as, from fiiq all the way to imey west and afdheer, our border is very clear, we dont welcome them, they are not allowed to live amongst us, we dont associate, the OG knows his leange and doesnt welcome anyone to his land, heck even karanley who lived with and sheekhaal have moved inwards and now live with oroma, idoors even marry their women, this will create a blowback inn the future, oromo are like bantus and hutus, they will bring out bangats from time to time, they ahev done to ahmar in the 90s, done it to harari and now to langaab somalis they move to their lands, waa jalwo, bantu mentality, best thing to do is like OG, keep away from them and kee a distance and shoot them at first sight, this is why the heartland of Ogadeniya is very Ogaden, homogenous and all these somalis/dirs, akisho etc live in shaniile extreme north west,

these langaabs like jaarso and gurgure hate Ogaden, anyone that tames them is in my interest.

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:49 pm

TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:59 pm

Yes Bali was kingdom of the oromized Somalis, they are no longer Somalis obviously, they have formed their own identity and I support them. The Oromo invasion is real, however as a Somali from Somalia I do not claim Arsi, Silte etc as Somali, I am just stating they used to be Somali in the middle ages, I believe they have suffered enough under Habasha imperialism, they deserve to be left alone by Oromo and Habasha alike, we wish you well from Somalia.

on one hand your marehan people called Ogadens ahmars and here you are getting your nose into business you shouldn't, you make up stuff like you know the area, why do you care whats happening in ethiopia, your people dont reside there,

the very people you claim are somali hate you the most and would kill you, since when these people become somali? since when did somalis own all bale?

Ogaden has ownership and you are not allowed to speak about it, keep to somalia, the Ogaden oromo border has been sorted in 1931 when Ogaden took the last land from oromo a distarct called lagahida owned by cali nasar reer cabdule moahmed subeer clan, we have no issues and we share a border along bale, we own the east they own the west, please stop stering war,

the oromised Somalis you speak of waa confusing and hateful, because of their hate for ogaden they decided to move to oromo land, one day waa somali, next waa oromo, akisho, jaro, guregur have done these to themselves in dira dabe, they exploit both Somali and oromo and never decided what they are, you also have the issues of dir being a confused tribe that claims all sorts of gashin, just to gain numbers, i know dir in kenya who have gone to wardey and told them they are dir and will welcomed them as lost, if a wardhey starts beef years later with dir, who is to blame? waa cuqdad they have for Ogaden, they want to beef their numbers fro political reasons and it will bite them in the ass as usual,

ethiopia is very simple, you have dir who have welcomed all types of confused tribes and ethnics to claim them and try to gain pltical advantages due to their small numbers, the people infiltrate and bring out their true colours,

they should be greateful cabdi iley atleast negotiated dira dabe to be split between DDSI and ormia, dir lost it in the 90s simply because a lot of tribes they brought in to gain seats in DDSI brough outn their true colours, its a slap in the face, they are lucky they now own the north side, half is betetr than nothing like it was before King Cabdi.

then you have Ogaden, his very clear on his border and any oromo that passes will be shot, simple as, from fiiq all the way to imey west and afdheer, our border is very clear, we dont welcome them, they are not allowed to live amongst us, we dont associate, the OG knows his leange and doesnt welcome anyone to his land, heck even karanley who lived with and sheekhaal have moved inwards and now live with oroma, idoors even marry their women, this will create a blowback inn the future, oromo are like bantus and hutus, they will bring out bangats from time to time, they ahev done to ahmar in the 90s, done it to harari and now to langaab somalis they move to their lands, waa jalwo, bantu mentality, best thing to do is like OG, keep away from them and kee a distance and shoot them at first sight, this is why the heartland of Ogadeniya is very Ogaden, homogenous and all these somalis/dirs, akisho etc live in shaniile extreme north west,

these langaabs like jaarso and gurgure hate Ogaden, anyone that tames them is in my interest.

If I want to talk about Japan I will do it and there is nothing cagdheer can say about that, got it ?

These Arsi, Silte people are originally Somali from the middle ages around 6-700 years ago, they were part of the numerous Somali kingdoms that expanded along the coastline and the interior, which later formed the adal empire and fought against Abyssinia.

Diredaba, Raaso, Babilli etc is recent times when certain Somali clans like Dir joining Oromo etc it is different subject all together.

I am talking to the brother about historical facts, not current day politics, I say these Arsi Silte people should protect their interest against Oromo and Habasha, nothing wrong with that.

They are Somali Abo people we welcomed them in Mogadishu during Kacaan years for education, funds etc.

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:49 pm

TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:59 pm

Yes Bali was kingdom of the oromized Somalis, they are no longer Somalis obviously, they have formed their own identity and I support them. The Oromo invasion is real, however as a Somali from Somalia I do not claim Arsi, Silte etc as Somali, I am just stating they used to be Somali in the middle ages, I believe they have suffered enough under Habasha imperialism, they deserve to be left alone by Oromo and Habasha alike, we wish you well from Somalia.

on one hand your marehan people called Ogadens ahmars and here you are getting your nose into business you shouldn't, you make up stuff like you know the area, why do you care whats happening in ethiopia, your people dont reside there,

the very people you claim are somali hate you the most and would kill you, since when these people become somali? since when did somalis own all bale?

Ogaden has ownership and you are not allowed to speak about it, keep to somalia, the Ogaden oromo border has been sorted in 1931 when Ogaden took the last land from oromo a distarct called lagahida owned by cali nasar reer cabdule moahmed subeer clan, we have no issues and we share a border along bale, we own the east they own the west, please stop stering war,

the oromised Somalis you speak of waa confusing and hateful, because of their hate for ogaden they decided to move to oromo land, one day waa somali, next waa oromo, akisho, jaro, guregur have done these to themselves in dira dabe, they exploit both Somali and oromo and never decided what they are, you also have the issues of dir being a confused tribe that claims all sorts of gashin, just to gain numbers, i know dir in kenya who have gone to wardey and told them they are dir and will welcomed them as lost, if a wardhey starts beef years later with dir, who is to blame? waa cuqdad they have for Ogaden, they want to beef their numbers fro political reasons and it will bite them in the ass as usual,

ethiopia is very simple, you have dir who have welcomed all types of confused tribes and ethnics to claim them and try to gain pltical advantages due to their small numbers, the people infiltrate and bring out their true colours,

they should be greateful cabdi iley atleast negotiated dira dabe to be split between DDSI and ormia, dir lost it in the 90s simply because a lot of tribes they brought in to gain seats in DDSI brough outn their true colours, its a slap in the face, they are lucky they now own the north side, half is betetr than nothing like it was before King Cabdi.

then you have Ogaden, his very clear on his border and any oromo that passes will be shot, simple as, from fiiq all the way to imey west and afdheer, our border is very clear, we dont welcome them, they are not allowed to live amongst us, we dont associate, the OG knows his leange and doesnt welcome anyone to his land, heck even karanley who lived with and sheekhaal have moved inwards and now live with oroma, idoors even marry their women, this will create a blowback inn the future, oromo are like bantus and hutus, they will bring out bangats from time to time, they ahev done to ahmar in the 90s, done it to harari and now to langaab somalis they move to their lands, waa jalwo, bantu mentality, best thing to do is like OG, keep away from them and kee a distance and shoot them at first sight, this is why the heartland of Ogadeniya is very Ogaden, homogenous and all these somalis/dirs, akisho etc live in shaniile extreme north west,

these langaabs like jaarso and gurgure hate Ogaden, anyone that tames them is in my interest.

If I want to talk about Japan I will do it and there is nothing cagdheer can say about that, got it ?

These Arsi, Silte people are originally Somali from the middle ages around 6-700 years ago, they were part of the numerous Somali kingdoms that expanded along the coastline and the interior, which later formed the adal empire and fought against Abyssinia.

Diredaba, Raaso, Babilli etc is recent times when certain Somali clans like Dir joining Oromo etc it is different subject all together.

I am talking to the brother about historical facts, not current day politics, I say these Arsi Silte people should protect their interest against Oromo and Habasha, nothing wrong with that.

They are Somali Abo people we welcomed them in Mogadishu during Kacaan years for education, funds etc.

St8OuttaDirree wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:17 pm

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:49 pm

TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

on one hand your marehan people called Ogadens ahmars and here you are getting your nose into business you shouldn't, you make up stuff like you know the area, why do you care whats happening in ethiopia, your people dont reside there,

the very people you claim are somali hate you the most and would kill you, since when these people become somali? since when did somalis own all bale?

Ogaden has ownership and you are not allowed to speak about it, keep to somalia, the Ogaden oromo border has been sorted in 1931 when Ogaden took the last land from oromo a distarct called lagahida owned by cali nasar reer cabdule moahmed subeer clan, we have no issues and we share a border along bale, we own the east they own the west, please stop stering war,

the oromised Somalis you speak of waa confusing and hateful, because of their hate for ogaden they decided to move to oromo land, one day waa somali, next waa oromo, akisho, jaro, guregur have done these to themselves in dira dabe, they exploit both Somali and oromo and never decided what they are, you also have the issues of dir being a confused tribe that claims all sorts of gashin, just to gain numbers, i know dir in kenya who have gone to wardey and told them they are dir and will welcomed them as lost, if a wardhey starts beef years later with dir, who is to blame? waa cuqdad they have for Ogaden, they want to beef their numbers fro political reasons and it will bite them in the ass as usual,

ethiopia is very simple, you have dir who have welcomed all types of confused tribes and ethnics to claim them and try to gain pltical advantages due to their small numbers, the people infiltrate and bring out their true colours,

they should be greateful cabdi iley atleast negotiated dira dabe to be split between DDSI and ormia, dir lost it in the 90s simply because a lot of tribes they brought in to gain seats in DDSI brough outn their true colours, its a slap in the face, they are lucky they now own the north side, half is betetr than nothing like it was before King Cabdi.

then you have Ogaden, his very clear on his border and any oromo that passes will be shot, simple as, from fiiq all the way to imey west and afdheer, our border is very clear, we dont welcome them, they are not allowed to live amongst us, we dont associate, the OG knows his leange and doesnt welcome anyone to his land, heck even karanley who lived with and sheekhaal have moved inwards and now live with oroma, idoors even marry their women, this will create a blowback inn the future, oromo are like bantus and hutus, they will bring out bangats from time to time, they ahev done to ahmar in the 90s, done it to harari and now to langaab somalis they move to their lands, waa jalwo, bantu mentality, best thing to do is like OG, keep away from them and kee a distance and shoot them at first sight, this is why the heartland of Ogadeniya is very Ogaden, homogenous and all these somalis/dirs, akisho etc live in shaniile extreme north west,

these langaabs like jaarso and gurgure hate Ogaden, anyone that tames them is in my interest.

If I want to talk about Japan I will do it and there is nothing cagdheer can say about that, got it ?

These Arsi, Silte people are originally Somali from the middle ages around 6-700 years ago, they were part of the numerous Somali kingdoms that expanded along the coastline and the interior, which later formed the adal empire and fought against Abyssinia.

Diredaba, Raaso, Babilli etc is recent times when certain Somali clans like Dir joining Oromo etc it is different subject all together.

I am talking to the brother about historical facts, not current day politics, I say these Arsi Silte people should protect their interest against Oromo and Habasha, nothing wrong with that.

They are Somali Abo people we welcomed them in Mogadishu during Kacaan years for education, funds etc.

Brother, again the Silte and Arsi have nothing to do with Somali. The Silte don’t even border Somalis, they live in the Southern people’s region with other Gurages, Siddamas and omotic people. The Silte language is a Semitic language closely related to Harari, not At-Soomali. They are genetically and culturally related to Adares, Gurages, Argobbas ect.

Arsi is are Oromo. The Original Oromos are still amongst them, but they also have a large amount of assimilated ethnic Hadiya people.

The below video is what the Hadiya are. They are a Cushitic group, but a lot closer to Sidamas, Kambatas etc compared to Somali.

These are the people that ruled the kingdom of Bali and the Hadiya kingdom, Not Somalis.

TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:59 pm

St8OuttaDirree wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:22 pm

Silte are not Somali and neither are the Arsi. Silte is a branch from gurage. They originate in the highlands.

Arsi is a mixture of Oromo and Hadiyya(really small ethnic group today) and a little mixture of Sidamas. In the old days Arsi would say we are 2 clans - Arsi & Hadiya. Today they are all mixed so everyone almost has Oromo and Hadiya amongst them. Bali was a Hadiya kingdom, not Somali.

Yes Bali was kingdom of the oromized Somalis, they are no longer Somalis obviously, they have formed their own identity and I support them. The Oromo invasion is real, however as a Somali from Somalia I do not claim Arsi, Silte etc as Somali, I am just stating they used to be Somali in the middle ages, I believe they have suffered enough under Habasha imperialism, they deserve to be left alone by Oromo and Habasha alike, we wish you well from Somalia.

on one hand your marehan people called Ogadens ahmars and here you are getting your nose into business you shouldn't, you make up stuff like you know the area, why do you care whats happening in ethiopia, your people dont reside there,

the very people you claim are somali hate you the most and would kill you, since when these people become somali? since when did somalis own all bale?

Ogaden has ownership and you are not allowed to speak about it, keep to somalia, the Ogaden oromo border has been sorted in 1931 when Ogaden took the last land from oromo a distarct called lagahida owned by cali nasar reer cabdule moahmed subeer clan, we have no issues and we share a border along bale, we own the east they own the west, please stop stering war,

the oromised Somalis you speak of waa confusing and hateful, because of their hate for ogaden they decided to move to oromo land, one day waa somali, next waa oromo, akisho, jaro, guregur have done these to themselves in dira dabe, they exploit both Somali and oromo and never decided what they are, you also have the issues of dir being a confused tribe that claims all sorts of gashin, just to gain numbers, i know dir in kenya who have gone to wardey and told them they are dir and will welcomed them as lost, if a wardhey starts beef years later with dir, who is to blame? waa cuqdad they have for Ogaden, they want to beef their numbers fro political reasons and it will bite them in the ass as usual,

ethiopia is very simple, you have dir who have welcomed all types of confused tribes and ethnics to claim them and try to gain pltical advantages due to their small numbers, the people infiltrate and bring out their true colours,

they should be greateful cabdi iley atleast negotiated dira dabe to be split between DDSI and ormia, dir lost it in the 90s simply because a lot of tribes they brought in to gain seats in DDSI brough outn their true colours, its a slap in the face, they are lucky they now own the north side, half is betetr than nothing like it was before King Cabdi.

then you have Ogaden, his very clear on his border and any oromo that passes will be shot, simple as, from fiiq all the way to imey west and afdheer, our border is very clear, we dont welcome them, they are not allowed to live amongst us, we dont associate, the OG knows his leange and doesnt welcome anyone to his land, heck even karanley who lived with and sheekhaal have moved inwards and now live with oroma, idoors even marry their women, this will create a blowback inn the future, oromo are like bantus and hutus, they will bring out bangats from time to time, they ahev done to ahmar in the 90s, done it to harari and now to langaab somalis they move to their lands, waa jalwo, bantu mentality, best thing to do is like OG, keep away from them and kee a distance and shoot them at first sight, this is why the heartland of Ogadeniya is very Ogaden, homogenous and all these somalis/dirs, akisho etc live in shaniile extreme north west,

these langaabs like jaarso and gurgure hate Ogaden, anyone that tames them is in my interest.

The issue of fitting into the new ethno-federal structure became controversial to the Gurgura because they share both Somali and Oromo identities. They by-and-large speak Affan Oromo (Oromo language), while they trace their genealogy to Somali (Dir Somali clan family). In the ethnic frontiers of the Oromo and the Somali where there have been cultural and linguistic interactions at least since the sixteenth century (Caulk, 1977), there are several clans like the Gurgura with shared Somali and Oromo identities. In the context of Dire Dawa, the ethnic identity of the Gurgura became contentious as their decision to join one of the larger ethnicities could have implications on the quest of the two regions to have control over Dire Dawa. Both the Oromo and the Somali protagonists use their own narratives to bring the Gurgura to their side. But on the ground, to the dislike of the Oromo, many prominent Gurgura, including traditional leaders, have identified themselves as Somali.

Regional & Federal Studies

Volume 24, Issue 5, 2014
Special Issue: Federalism and Decentralization in Sub-Saharan Africa
Ethnic Decentralization and the Challenges of Inclusive Governance in Multiethnic Cities: The Case of Dire Dawa, Ethiopia

After the defeat of IFLO and OLF by the TGE troops in eastern Ethiopia and IGLF in Dire Dawa, the city remained a bone of contention between Oromia and Somali regional states which was feared to have degenerated in to widespread ethnic conflict over the question of ownership. Dire Dawa was also at the center of Somali political parties set together to form Somali regional state like other regional states established to represent their respective people.

St8OuttaDirree wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:05 pm

Jabuutawi wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:05 pm ^ yo, no sane Somali wants to be part of Oromia but we wish you well, just don't come for my Dira Dhabe or any other Somali land.

So, top generals were Macca, that is Wacchis people. I knew that boy was a sell out. I respect the Afran Qallu and Arsi warriors.

Video: Women are pretty.

@Khadra Ali, bitch ass nigga, you coping out already

I will claim Dire Dhawa any day. My family is from there, and have been there for generations. Before the city was built, we were living in the southeastern half of the city. You should know the Noole have been in the area for a very long time, this is also our land. Forget the politics, the Gurgura of the city and the Noole have had a long and peaceful relationship. The only fight for the city was in the 90s when both OLF and IGLF claimed it. The Noole and Gurgura, and to some extent, the Alas in the area have been intermarrying with one another. A huge chunk of my family is Gurgura. The way the city is now, is just fine. It doesn’t need to be a part of Oromia or Somali regions. It would just create issues if it were granted to either region. Yes mostly Macca and Tulama. The Wallo or Yajju ran the dynasty, but the foot soldiers were from the 2 clans.

zumaale wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:48 pm

TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:59 pm

Yes Bali was kingdom of the oromized Somalis, they are no longer Somalis obviously, they have formed their own identity and I support them. The Oromo invasion is real, however as a Somali from Somalia I do not claim Arsi, Silte etc as Somali, I am just stating they used to be Somali in the middle ages, I believe they have suffered enough under Habasha imperialism, they deserve to be left alone by Oromo and Habasha alike, we wish you well from Somalia.

on one hand your marehan people called Ogadens ahmars and here you are getting your nose into business you shouldn't, you make up stuff like you know the area, why do you care whats happening in ethiopia, your people dont reside there,

the very people you claim are somali hate you the most and would kill you, since when these people become somali? since when did somalis own all bale?

Ogaden has ownership and you are not allowed to speak about it, keep to somalia, the Ogaden oromo border has been sorted in 1931 when Ogaden took the last land from oromo a distarct called lagahida owned by cali nasar reer cabdule moahmed subeer clan, we have no issues and we share a border along bale, we own the east they own the west, please stop stering war,

the oromised Somalis you speak of waa confusing and hateful, because of their hate for ogaden they decided to move to oromo land, one day waa somali, next waa oromo, akisho, jaro, guregur have done these to themselves in dira dabe, they exploit both Somali and oromo and never decided what they are, you also have the issues of dir being a confused tribe that claims all sorts of gashin, just to gain numbers, i know dir in kenya who have gone to wardey and told them they are dir and will welcomed them as lost, if a wardhey starts beef years later with dir, who is to blame? waa cuqdad they have for Ogaden, they want to beef their numbers fro political reasons and it will bite them in the ass as usual,

ethiopia is very simple, you have dir who have welcomed all types of confused tribes and ethnics to claim them and try to gain pltical advantages due to their small numbers, the people infiltrate and bring out their true colours,

they should be greateful cabdi iley atleast negotiated dira dabe to be split between DDSI and ormia, dir lost it in the 90s simply because a lot of tribes they brought in to gain seats in DDSI brough outn their true colours, its a slap in the face, they are lucky they now own the north side, half is betetr than nothing like it was before King Cabdi.

then you have Ogaden, his very clear on his border and any oromo that passes will be shot, simple as, from fiiq all the way to imey west and afdheer, our border is very clear, we dont welcome them, they are not allowed to live amongst us, we dont associate, the OG knows his leange and doesnt welcome anyone to his land, heck even karanley who lived with and sheekhaal have moved inwards and now live with oroma, idoors even marry their women, this will create a blowback inn the future, oromo are like bantus and hutus, they will bring out bangats from time to time, they ahev done to ahmar in the 90s, done it to harari and now to langaab somalis they move to their lands, waa jalwo, bantu mentality, best thing to do is like OG, keep away from them and kee a distance and shoot them at first sight, this is why the heartland of Ogadeniya is very Ogaden, homogenous and all these somalis/dirs, akisho etc live in shaniile extreme north west,

these langaabs like jaarso and gurgure hate Ogaden, anyone that tames them is in my interest.

Do you even know anything about the people or lands that you are talking about?

Firstly, the Gurgura and Ogaden do not even or ever had an extensive border. They border the Afar, Ciise and Oromo. Dire Dawa and its surroundings is their stronghold and they never joined the Oromo.

The issue of fitting into the new ethno-federal structure became controversial to the Gurgura because they share both Somali and Oromo identities. They by-and-large speak Affan Oromo (Oromo language), while they trace their genealogy to Somali (Dir Somali clan family). In the ethnic frontiers of the Oromo and the Somali where there have been cultural and linguistic interactions at least since the sixteenth century (Caulk, 1977), there are several clans like the Gurgura with shared Somali and Oromo identities. In the context of Dire Dawa, the ethnic identity of the Gurgura became contentious as their decision to join one of the larger ethnicities could have implications on the quest of the two regions to have control over Dire Dawa. Both the Oromo and the Somali protagonists use their own narratives to bring the Gurgura to their side. But on the ground, to the dislike of the Oromo, many prominent Gurgura, including traditional leaders, have identified themselves as Somali.

Regional & Federal Studies

Volume 24, Issue 5, 2014
Special Issue: Federalism and Decentralization in Sub-Saharan Africa
Ethnic Decentralization and the Challenges of Inclusive Governance in Multiethnic Cities: The Case of Dire Dawa, Ethiopia

As for the Akisho/Gurre, the majority live in Southern K5 and posses their own districts. Only a few live next to the Ogaden in Fiq and Qabribayax. Contrary to what you keep claim, they mainly live in Southern K5, not Shnille or Nothern K5. Nor do the Garire, Daweed and Faqi Maxamed in Ceel Kari, Western Jaratti and Dolo Bay Woredas. None of them voted join the Oromo Regional State as demonstrated by their districts in Southern K5. Only the Karanle Hawiyes and the Jarso Oromo-Somali confederation did.



The only ones that have been Oromised are a subclan which is part of the Oborra Afran Qallo subclan and live deep in the Oromo Haraghe. Zone. Furthermore, only a minority of them live next to you guys in Fiq and QabriBayax. Don't lie about things you are ignorant of.

Also, Cabdi Iley never made Dire Dawa a Federal Zone, the Tigrays did after the IGLF fought the Oromos in the early 90's and gained control of the city.

After the defeat of IFLO and OLF by the TGE troops in eastern Ethiopia and IGLF in Dire Dawa, the city remained a bone of contention between Oromia and Somali regional states which was feared to have degenerated in to widespread ethnic conflict over the question of ownership. Dire Dawa was also at the center of Somali political parties set together to form Somali regional state like other regional states established to represent their respective people.

zumaale wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:58 pm

St8OuttaDirree wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:05 pm

Jabuutawi wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:05 pm ^ yo, no sane Somali wants to be part of Oromia but we wish you well, just don't come for my Dira Dhabe or any other Somali land.

So, top generals were Macca, that is Wacchis people. I knew that boy was a sell out. I respect the Afran Qallu and Arsi warriors.

Video: Women are pretty.

@Khadra Ali, bitch ass nigga, you coping out already

I will claim Dire Dhawa any day. My family is from there, and have been there for generations. Before the city was built, we were living in the southeastern half of the city. You should know the Noole have been in the area for a very long time, this is also our land. Forget the politics, the Gurgura of the city and the Noole have had a long and peaceful relationship. The only fight for the city was in the 90s when both OLF and IGLF claimed it. The Noole and Gurgura, and to some extent, the Alas in the area have been intermarrying with one another. A huge chunk of my family is Gurgura. The way the city is now, is just fine. It doesn’t need to be a part of Oromia or Somali regions. It would just create issues if it were granted to either region. Yes mostly Macca and Tulama. The Wallo or Yajju ran the dynasty, but the foot soldiers were from the 2 clans.

No one is disputing that the Gurgura and Noole have peaceful relations but there is a reason why Dire Dawa was called the Issa and Gurgura Awraja or why the non urban Woreda of Dire Dawa was called Gurgura. The only way you can claim a historical presence in Dire Dawa is by claiming the Gurgura are an Oromo subclan and we both know that is not true. Both the Gurgura and Ciise rural lands surround the city. Even though Dire Dawa is a multicultural city like Finfine but that does not make it any less Somali than Finfine is Oromo.

TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:09 pm

zumaale wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:48 pm

TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

on one hand your marehan people called Ogadens ahmars and here you are getting your nose into business you shouldn't, you make up stuff like you know the area, why do you care whats happening in ethiopia, your people dont reside there,

the very people you claim are somali hate you the most and would kill you, since when these people become somali? since when did somalis own all bale?

Ogaden has ownership and you are not allowed to speak about it, keep to somalia, the Ogaden oromo border has been sorted in 1931 when Ogaden took the last land from oromo a distarct called lagahida owned by cali nasar reer cabdule moahmed subeer clan, we have no issues and we share a border along bale, we own the east they own the west, please stop stering war,

the oromised Somalis you speak of waa confusing and hateful, because of their hate for ogaden they decided to move to oromo land, one day waa somali, next waa oromo, akisho, jaro, guregur have done these to themselves in dira dabe, they exploit both Somali and oromo and never decided what they are, you also have the issues of dir being a confused tribe that claims all sorts of gashin, just to gain numbers, i know dir in kenya who have gone to wardey and told them they are dir and will welcomed them as lost, if a wardhey starts beef years later with dir, who is to blame? waa cuqdad they have for Ogaden, they want to beef their numbers fro political reasons and it will bite them in the ass as usual,

ethiopia is very simple, you have dir who have welcomed all types of confused tribes and ethnics to claim them and try to gain pltical advantages due to their small numbers, the people infiltrate and bring out their true colours,

they should be greateful cabdi iley atleast negotiated dira dabe to be split between DDSI and ormia, dir lost it in the 90s simply because a lot of tribes they brought in to gain seats in DDSI brough outn their true colours, its a slap in the face, they are lucky they now own the north side, half is betetr than nothing like it was before King Cabdi.

then you have Ogaden, his very clear on his border and any oromo that passes will be shot, simple as, from fiiq all the way to imey west and afdheer, our border is very clear, we dont welcome them, they are not allowed to live amongst us, we dont associate, the OG knows his leange and doesnt welcome anyone to his land, heck even karanley who lived with and sheekhaal have moved inwards and now live with oroma, idoors even marry their women, this will create a blowback inn the future, oromo are like bantus and hutus, they will bring out bangats from time to time, they ahev done to ahmar in the 90s, done it to harari and now to langaab somalis they move to their lands, waa jalwo, bantu mentality, best thing to do is like OG, keep away from them and kee a distance and shoot them at first sight, this is why the heartland of Ogadeniya is very Ogaden, homogenous and all these somalis/dirs, akisho etc live in shaniile extreme north west,

these langaabs like jaarso and gurgure hate Ogaden, anyone that tames them is in my interest.

Do you even know anything about the people or lands that you are talking about?

Firstly, the Gurgura and Ogaden do not even or ever had an extensive border. They border the Afar, Ciise and Oromo. Dire Dawa and its surroundings is their stronghold and they never joined the Oromo.

The issue of fitting into the new ethno-federal structure became controversial to the Gurgura because they share both Somali and Oromo identities. They by-and-large speak Affan Oromo (Oromo language), while they trace their genealogy to Somali (Dir Somali clan family). In the ethnic frontiers of the Oromo and the Somali where there have been cultural and linguistic interactions at least since the sixteenth century (Caulk, 1977), there are several clans like the Gurgura with shared Somali and Oromo identities. In the context of Dire Dawa, the ethnic identity of the Gurgura became contentious as their decision to join one of the larger ethnicities could have implications on the quest of the two regions to have control over Dire Dawa. Both the Oromo and the Somali protagonists use their own narratives to bring the Gurgura to their side. But on the ground, to the dislike of the Oromo, many prominent Gurgura, including traditional leaders, have identified themselves as Somali.

Regional & Federal Studies

Volume 24, Issue 5, 2014
Special Issue: Federalism and Decentralization in Sub-Saharan Africa
Ethnic Decentralization and the Challenges of Inclusive Governance in Multiethnic Cities: The Case of Dire Dawa, Ethiopia

As for the Akisho/Gurre, the majority live in Southern K5 and posses their own districts. Only a few live next to the Ogaden in Fiq and Qabribayax. Contrary to what you keep claim, they mainly live in Southern K5, not Shnille or Nothern K5. Nor do the Garire, Daweed and Faqi Maxamed in Ceel Kari, Western Jaratti and Dolo Bay Woredas. None of them voted join the Oromo Regional State as demonstrated by their districts in Southern K5. Only the Karanle Hawiyes and the Jarso Oromo-Somali confederation did.



The only ones that have been Oromised are a subclan which is part of the Oborra Afran Qallo subclan and live deep in the Oromo Haraghe. Zone. Furthermore, only a minority of them live next to you guys in Fiq and QabriBayax. Don't lie about things you are ignorant of.

Also, Cabdi Iley never made Dire Dawa a Federal Zone, the Tigrays did after the IGLF fought the Oromos in the early 90's and gained control of the city.

After the defeat of IFLO and OLF by the TGE troops in eastern Ethiopia and IGLF in Dire Dawa, the city remained a bone of contention between Oromia and Somali regional states which was feared to have degenerated in to widespread ethnic conflict over the question of ownership. Dire Dawa was also at the center of Somali political parties set together to form Somali regional state like other regional states established to represent their respective people.

get out of here dude, akisho live in shanile, do not deny it, you keep saying the south of K5 with ourt being specific, bringing a map dont prove shyte, the most southern regions waa afdheer, 100% cawlyahan and reer amadin ogadens, libaan waa 100% dagodi and garre,, all those races you mentioned do live in shaniley, jaaro, akisho do resdie in k5, if you want to deny it then you must have an agenda,

i nerr said cabdi iley made a federal zone, i said it was his policy advise toe thiopia it be spelit in the middle and dira dawa is half dir half oromo,

i could not careless if they want to be somali other another race as long as they dont go near OGaden lands, they can fight over who is what, just keep away from OGs lands, it was their choice to assimilate, all i know is they hate me and only the gun keeps me safe, like it has been for centuries with the sword,

i dont buy your cushtic brotherly love crap like adali, , these people just raped and murdered somalis dirs and karanley months ago, waa hutu mentality,

Qaybta 4aad – Taariikhda ay deegaankaas tageen & Qabaa’ilka ay ka kooban yihiin
Soomaalidan oo taariikh ahaan dhulkan yimid hal qarni iyo badh ka hor ayaa ka kooban qabaa’il kala duwan oo Soomaaliyeed, oo isku xidhiidhiya magaca soomaalinimada (Waa meesha kali ah ee ay Soomaalinimadu hal qabiil ka tahay, iyo far kali ah dhinaca midnimada).

Balse waxaa loo qaybiyaa labo qaybood oo waaweyn oo kala ah beesha Camarka oo ah jilib Ogaadeen ah oo asalkoodu ka soo guuray degmada Fiiq & nawaaxigeeda, islamarkaana ka mid ah beel-weynta maalinguur iyo qaybta kale oo loogu yeedho Shiinaha oo isugu jira qabaa’il kala duwan oo ay ka mid yihiin Abaskuul, Hawiye isku jir ah, Ciise, Maxed Subeer, Ree Sacad, Abraahiim – Makaahiil, Bartire, Gurre, Sheekhaash, Harti, Mareexaan, Ajuuraan, Biyo-maal & qabiilo kale.
Qaybta 5aad – Shaqsiyaadka Caanka ah ee ka soo jeeda deegaankaas
Dadka caanka ah ee aaggan ka soo jeeda waxaa ka mid ah Sh/Cali Suufi Sh/C/raxmaan oo muddo dheer barista diinta ka waday meelo ay ka mid yihiin Fiiq, Dh/buur oo uu madarasooyin taariikh leh ka yagleelay, iyo Magaalada Muqdisho oo uu . Sheekhu wuxuu aabbo u yahay rag culimo ah oo uu ugu horreeyo Sh/C/rashiid Sh/Cali Suufi oo ah sheekha dawlada Qatar, culimada Soomaalida ugu magaca dheerna ka mid ah. Sida oo kale Dr. Suldaan Weli oo ahaan jiray Madaxweyne kuxigeenka deegaanka Soomaalida, iyo kuwo kale oo deegaanka xilal ka haya oo ay ka mid yihiin Miig Bile oo ah wisiirka dhallinyada & sports-ka & Dr. C/casiis Ibrahim oo ah Madaxweynaha Jaamacada Jigjiga iyo horin kale oo deegaanka xilal & shaqooyin muhiim ah ka haysa ayaa laga xusi karaa dadka dhulkaas ka soo jeeda, ee ku dhex bar-baaray deegaankaas.

Si kastaba ha ahaatee, Soomaalidan ayaa ah kuwo is jecel oo isku xidhiidhiya Soomaalinamada, taas oo ka dhigaysa in dhulkaasi uu yahay meesha kali ah ee ay Soomaali degto ee ay Soomaalinimadu hal qabiil ka tahay.

Jabuutawi wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:24 pm Thanks to Zumaale, it saves me effort and time trying to explain the history of Dira Dhabe and its environs. Half a century ago it was all Dir land, thanks to TPLF, it has emboldened Oromos to claim a land they have no history of.

I crack up with a laughter when I hear a poster talk about Abdi Iley federalized Dira Dhabe. We shed our blood, damn if fake person tells me anything about the city, much less how to govern it.

Another joke: That his clan lives from the borders of Djib to Garissa. Don’t get intoxicated with the few crumbs thrown at you by TIgray that the representation at parliament level would assume the same in post-Tigray era.

St8OuttaDirree wrote:

No one is claiming the Gurgura as a subclan or Noole. They’ve been our Neighbors for a long time, and saying we were not in the area is foolish. We have rural lands in the area as well. Call the area Gurgura, that’s absolutely fine. They are our brothers and we would stand and protect them any day. I have more in common with them the. I do with someone from walaga.

St8OuttaDirree wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:17 pm

Adali wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:49 pm

TeeriReturns wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm

on one hand your marehan people called Ogadens ahmars and here you are getting your nose into business you shouldn't, you make up stuff like you know the area, why do you care whats happening in ethiopia, your people dont reside there,

the very people you claim are somali hate you the most and would kill you, since when these people become somali? since when did somalis own all bale?

Ogaden has ownership and you are not allowed to speak about it, keep to somalia, the Ogaden oromo border has been sorted in 1931 when Ogaden took the last land from oromo a distarct called lagahida owned by cali nasar reer cabdule moahmed subeer clan, we have no issues and we share a border along bale, we own the east they own the west, please stop stering war,

the oromised Somalis you speak of waa confusing and hateful, because of their hate for ogaden they decided to move to oromo land, one day waa somali, next waa oromo, akisho, jaro, guregur have done these to themselves in dira dabe, they exploit both Somali and oromo and never decided what they are, you also have the issues of dir being a confused tribe that claims all sorts of gashin, just to gain numbers, i know dir in kenya who have gone to wardey and told them they are dir and will welcomed them as lost, if a wardhey starts beef years later with dir, who is to blame? waa cuqdad they have for Ogaden, they want to beef their numbers fro political reasons and it will bite them in the ass as usual,

ethiopia is very simple, you have dir who have welcomed all types of confused tribes and ethnics to claim them and try to gain pltical advantages due to their small numbers, the people infiltrate and bring out their true colours,

they should be greateful cabdi iley atleast negotiated dira dabe to be split between DDSI and ormia, dir lost it in the 90s simply because a lot of tribes they brought in to gain seats in DDSI brough outn their true colours, its a slap in the face, they are lucky they now own the north side, half is betetr than nothing like it was before King Cabdi.

then you have Ogaden, his very clear on his border and any oromo that passes will be shot, simple as, from fiiq all the way to imey west and afdheer, our border is very clear, we dont welcome them, they are not allowed to live amongst us, we dont associate, the OG knows his leange and doesnt welcome anyone to his land, heck even karanley who lived with and sheekhaal have moved inwards and now live with oroma, idoors even marry their women, this will create a blowback inn the future, oromo are like bantus and hutus, they will bring out bangats from time to time, they ahev done to ahmar in the 90s, done it to harari and now to langaab somalis they move to their lands, waa jalwo, bantu mentality, best thing to do is like OG, keep away from them and kee a distance and shoot them at first sight, this is why the heartland of Ogadeniya is very Ogaden, homogenous and all these somalis/dirs, akisho etc live in shaniile extreme north west,

these langaabs like jaarso and gurgure hate Ogaden, anyone that tames them is in my interest.

If I want to talk about Japan I will do it and there is nothing cagdheer can say about that, got it ?

These Arsi, Silte people are originally Somali from the middle ages around 6-700 years ago, they were part of the numerous Somali kingdoms that expanded along the coastline and the interior, which later formed the adal empire and fought against Abyssinia.

Diredaba, Raaso, Babilli etc is recent times when certain Somali clans like Dir joining Oromo etc it is different subject all together.

I am talking to the brother about historical facts, not current day politics, I say these Arsi Silte people should protect their interest against Oromo and Habasha, nothing wrong with that.

They are Somali Abo people we welcomed them in Mogadishu during Kacaan years for education, funds etc.

Brother, again the Silte and Arsi have nothing to do with Somali. The Silte don’t even border Somalis, they live in the Southern people’s region with other Gurages, Siddamas and omotic people. The Silte language is a Semitic language closely related to Harari, not At-Soomali. They are genetically and culturally related to Adares, Gurages, Argobbas ect.

Arsi is are Oromo. The Original Oromos are still amongst them, but they also have a large amount of assimilated ethnic Hadiya people.

The below video is what the Hadiya are. They are a Cushitic group, but a lot closer to Sidamas, Kambatas etc compared to Somali.

These are the people that ruled the kingdom of Bali and the Hadiya kingdom, Not Somalis.