America warns: ‘Somalia partnership with Qatar & Iran could have consequences’

[X.Playa]

They were helping us with aid yes, but at what cost? We refuse to become a UAE colony and we refuse to let them corrupt parliament. If they want to trade then make the best offer.

They have a dispute with Qatar and we should follow, why exactly? Fgs will make their own decisions and trade with whoever they feel will make a real difference to the country. We are a sovereign nation not an Arab colony like siiland.

Corruption is your culture since the days of the Italians. Certainly we can't blame UAE fir corruption a national sport fir Hawiye and Daarood.

You are not a sovereign nation you are a UN project propped up by 28,000 UN troops. Your " president " can't be even honored with ruling over Xamar alone.

The ex Italian colony known as Somalia has over 6 " presidents " and various zigzags of minor states.

Face the reality and wake up from the delusions. Italian Somalia is finished it will function as various small powerless emirates in perpetual conflict with supposedly a federal president that has zero power over any entity.

no intelligent counter argument just wild speculations, you have lost this debate go away.

I certainty checkmated your self serving narrative.

[AbdiWahab252]

Name of so called US expert?

[Khalid Ali]

Let the darood side with qatar and the Iranians it's good there is a republican president his name is Donald trump his security adviser is anti is anti Iran and anti islamism anti all of that. The darood are allinating Mogadishu and hawiyes from the Arabs. Hawiye only cares for money and Norwegian aid money European aid money. That's all they care and that darood comes back to Mogadishu they have the numbers. Hawiye is using failmaajo hawiye is not nationalist they don't care for hawiye lives only money niiko cambuuko digir moxog iyo saddaqo iyo ugaandhees laa ziyaartu hawiye waa iska gudhu waa afrikaan. Beri damne bey toosan mar dunida lugu kale tegey

[original dervish]

Is being African an insult now?
Let the UAE take a hike off a short plank.....they thought they could own us like a penny ho.

[gurey25]

My spidey senses are tingling,
I feel that there is something deeply wrong

We have given them a base to attack innocent civilians in Yemen, and allied with the uae, saudia who are themselves part and parcel of the isreali dominated Western alliance.
Those lucky bastards have accidentally found themselves on the side of haq, while somaliland made a deal with the devil.

We all know Allah doesn't reserve judgement just for akhira, sometimes it's here right on earth.

Because of this deal with the devil we may even get recognition out of it, and investment.
But God works in mysterious ways and our fall could be real bad.
Right now it's inconceivable that Somalia could be a threat, they are extremely weak, a UN trusteeship in all but name.

But stranger things have happened may Allah have mercy on us.

[grandpakhalif]

Farmaajo is doing well if the Zionist Jews in Washington and Slers are crying foul.

What do Khaleejij Arabs bar Qatar seriously offer us other than Hajj and access to their livestock. Fuck uae and saudi they are the ones corrupting the south by fueling the terrorist dependent charcoal trade in Jubbooyinka, Hiiraan, 2 Shabelles etc. Not only are they deforesting us they are the ones who brought this sick wahabi virus to somalia creating the havoc today.

we should absolutely ally with persians a people who have top engineers, doctors, nuclear physicists and agricultural. Iran is much more technically advanced and education is much better quality.in Tehran than Riyadh.

I hope Farmaajo pursues a friendly open policy to the Iranians and formally apologise for the previous HSM govt actions.

Remember the world is shifting towards China as the next superpower, US will not forever be the sole superpower empowering toothless arabs as they please..

remembet muqdisho is not hargeisa remember black hawk down hahahhah koonfurian somalis defeated America, uae is no match

[original dervish]

Gurey.....why get cold feet now when you are within touching distance of recognition?
Surely over the preceding thirty years s/l has been willing to do whatever is necessary to succeed.

Personally I believe s/l has had the wrong strategy all along.
They would have been better served by making Berbera the premiere port on the peninsula.
Bearing in mind Xamar port was closed for 20 years.

Furthermore, instead of becoming hooked on ngo aid that has very little impact they could have focused on a 1970s China style of development.
Whereby thousands of civilians, students, police, army, civil servants using mostly picks and spades implement huge projects.
Agro forestry, erosion control, water catchment, road building etc.
PS why hasn't s/l attempted to access the aquifers....this has the potential to revolutionize the agricultural sector?

[skywalker25]

Farmaajo is doing well if the Zionist Jews in Washington and Slers are crying foul.

What do Khaleejij Arabs bar Qatar seriously offer us other than Hajj and access to their livestock. Fuck uae and saudi they are the ones corrupting the south by fueling the terrorist dependent charcoal trade in Jubbooyinka, Hiiraan, 2 Shabelles etc. Not only are they deforesting us they are the ones who brought this sick wahabi virus to somalia creating the havoc today.

we should absolutely ally with persians a people who have top engineers, doctors, nuclear physicists and agricultural. Iran is much more technically advanced and education is much better quality.in Tehran than Riyadh.

I hope Farmaajo pursues a friendly open policy to the Iranians and formally apologise for the previous HSM govt actions.

Remember the world is shifting towards China as the next superpower, US will not forever be the sole superpower empowering toothless arabs as they please..

remembet muqdisho is not hargeisa remember black hawk down hahahhah koonfurian somalis defeated America, uae is no match

Only a poor begger Boon Marexaan from the badlands of empty Gedo, would have such a care free attitude, when Somalia will be locked out from the worlds number one spot for international commerce and business.

The Hawiye who control the Business in southern Somali, who's goodwill the parasite leech of, will soon ask them to vacate the premises once the money dries up a little.

All in the Boon Marexaan failmaajo has put his foot in it this time and for this mistake a price will be paid.

Viva Somaliland god loves the righteous

[gurey25]

Gurey.....why get cold feet now when you are within touching distance of recognition?
Surely over the preceding thirty years s/l has been willing to do whatever is necessary to succeed.

Personally I believe s/l has had the wrong strategy all along.
They would have been better served by making Berbera the premiere port on the peninsula.
Bearing in mind Xamar port was closed for 20 years.

Furthermore, instead of becoming hooked on ngo aid that has very little impact they could have focused on a 1970s China style of development.
Whereby thousands of civilians, students, police, army, civil servants using mostly picks and spades implement huge projects.
Agro forestry, erosion control, water catchment, road building etc.
PS why hasn't s/l attempted to access the aquifers....this has the potential to revolutionize the agricultural sector?

Cold feet? its a case of damned if you do, damned if you dont.
If the US is on your side , its a clear sign that you are fucked in the longterm.


and to answer why they did not do any real development china style or even eritrea style?
its because our leadership was educated in western universities , anyone with an economics degree from the west or bullshit degrees like "political science" is not equiped to deal with a developing country, and anything they do will be harmful.

There is also disinformation and propaganda with events like China's "great leap forwards" and the Cultural revolution.
We are bombarded with the "fact" that is was a disaster that led to the deaths of millions and destabalization throughtout our education system and media.
The reality is that the success greatly outwieghed the failures and China would not have been able to grow like it did,
if it did not go through the cultural revolution.

[Khalid Ali]

Zionist Saudis Emirates Americans as long as a get out seat at the United nations African union common wealth I care not for Arabs or Persians or Russians. Who ever makes an alliance and is willing to help build Somaliland as for the darood and hawiye. I will f-king throw them from the Himalaya mountains. To achieve the snm dream an isaaq dominated nation on the tip of the horn of Africa. Arbicin sannah we have been fighting telaviv ryad newyork low Angeles. Abudhabi. It's all about the money and the wealth. I care only for the wealth of my nation. So for now long live kingsalman and his son maxammad and ilma sheikh Sayid and their illuminatie Rothschild Jewish aristocrats shabbot shallom danke German and Jewish as long as Somaliland is being build maxa kagalay carrab iyo yahuud is haystan iyaga ba iskaa xiga.

[gurey25]

Zionist Saudis Emirates Americans as long as a get out seat at the United nations African union common wealth I care not for Arabs or Persians or Russians. Who ever makes an alliance and is willing to help build Somaliland as for the darood and hawiye. I will f-king throw them from the Himalaya mountains. To achieve the snm dream an isaaq dominated nation on the tip of the horn of Africa. Arbicin sannah we have been fighting telaviv ryad newyork low Angeles. Abudhabi. It's all about the money and the wealth. I care only for the wealth of my nation. So for now long live kingsalman and his son maxammad and ilma sheikh Sayid and their illuminatie Rothschild Jewish aristocrats shabbot shallom danke German and Jewish as long as Somaliland is being build maxa kagalay carrab iyo yahuud is haystan iyaga ba iskaa xiga.

khalid its because they are going to get a smackdown,
we are hitching our wagon to those on the trend downwards, and have a proven history of being unreliable,
The US has a history of screwing over its own allies, much less thirdworld countries, while others have kept a longterm view.
for example look at pakistan, the US funded it from 15 years and then dropped it like a hotpotato,
strategically weakening it, its a surprise it didnt fall over and die by the 70's.
They then came to them all smiles promising to be good friends in 1980 and provided billions, and then dropped them again in 1991.
They came back in 2001 again all smiles, saying i promise this time we will a have a good relationship, but then are in the process of dropping them now for the 4rth time in 60 years.
Russia signed up with India in 1956 the relationship is just as strong today and will continue for the forseable future.
As for france and the UK? the last 300 years is a history of betrayls , double dealing , even triple dealing always stabbing allies in the back. France wasnt as successful because they were not as good at double dealing and screwing over everyone as the British.
Now they were the masters and they wrote the book on the subject.

Lets hope muse bixi plays hardball and gets as much benefit out of this as possible, and as quickly as possible,
because we will be dropped like a hot potato without warning anytime.

[Typhoon]

Farmaajo is doing well if the Zionist Jews in Washington and Slers are crying foul.

What do Khaleejij Arabs bar Qatar seriously offer us other than Hajj and access to their livestock. Fuck uae and saudi they are the ones corrupting the south by fueling the terrorist dependent charcoal trade in Jubbooyinka, Hiiraan, 2 Shabelles etc. Not only are they deforesting us they are the ones who brought this sick wahabi virus to somalia creating the havoc today.

we should absolutely ally with persians a people who have top engineers, doctors, nuclear physicists and agricultural. Iran is much more technically advanced and education is much better quality.in Tehran than Riyadh.

I hope Farmaajo pursues a friendly open policy to the Iranians and formally apologise for the previous HSM govt actions.

Remember the world is shifting towards China as the next superpower, US will not forever be the sole superpower empowering toothless arabs as they please..

remembet muqdisho is not hargeisa remember black hawk down hahahhah koonfurian somalis defeated America, uae is no match

farmaajo is pro israel he comes from the same currupt new york state politicians as trump, they have they same friends albeit local buffullo politicians
farmaajo is italians connect so is trump
do not underestimate farmaajo, its no secret he is well connected
how did you think he made unlickly comback from is firing by sharrif and sharif could not make a comback.
there is a guiding hand in halane, notice qatar is still strong and winning, UAE can run around as much as they want robert mueller is coming for them.
one obstacle though, pompeo is connected to UAE(as a congressman with unstable seat) but he cant make dratsic changes before senator bob corker questions his motive(corker is retiring so he can check pompey)

[Typhoon]

My spidey senses are tingling,
I feel that there is something deeply wrong

We have given them a base to attack innocent civilians in Yemen, and allied with the uae, saudia who are themselves part and parcel of the isreali dominated Western alliance.
Those lucky bastards have accidentally found themselves on the side of haq, while somaliland made a deal with the devil.

We all know Allah doesn't reserve judgement just for akhira, sometimes it's here right on earth.

Because of this deal with the devil we may even get recognition out of it, and investment.
But God works in mysterious ways and our fall could be real bad.
Right now it's inconceivable that Somalia could be a threat, they are extremely weak, a UN trusteeship in all but name.

But stranger things have happened may Allah have mercy on us.

[Tycoon5647]

Gurey.....why get cold feet now when you are within touching distance of recognition?
Surely over the preceding thirty years s/l has been willing to do whatever is necessary to succeed.

Personally I believe s/l has had the wrong strategy all along.
They would have been better served by making Berbera the premiere port on the peninsula.
Bearing in mind Xamar port was closed for 20 years.

Furthermore, instead of becoming hooked on ngo aid that has very little impact they could have focused on a 1970s China style of development.
Whereby thousands of civilians, students, police, army, civil servants using mostly picks and spades implement huge projects.
Agro forestry, erosion control, water catchment, road building etc.
PS why hasn't s/l attempted to access the aquifers....this has the potential to revolutionize the agricultural sector?

You've made some great points, as a Somaliander I agree with you we should have better strategy. Unfortunately for us there is something called jeegaan who have been sowing musuq msuq in SL and only interested in profit and business for (Sacad Muuse and Habar Jeclo) The latter clans which is roughly 75% who live in SL are in poverty! Even their fellow Isaaq brother arab and Garxajis. The corruption is so bad that even in the capital city hargesia lack water. As you said there is plenty of aquifers in somaliland but the ministry of water resources is controlled by sacad muuse, rather than giving water to the citizens they make a water bottling plant where some of the aquifers are and sell people bottled water for profit. In somaliland right now you are not allowed to access your own water from aquifers otherwise you will be sent to jail. Only people who are allowed are the sacad muuse clan.

I doubt this current party is Somaliland will last one term as muuse bixi has chosen mostly 90% of his ministers from his sacad muuse clan. If you disagree with him or Kulmiye publicly you will be sent to jail.

Buurmadow boqor for habar jeclo had dinner with the butcher of hargesia Gen Morgan and was sent by muuse bixi himself because the jeegaanta realize their time is coming to an end. People in SL are pissed.

Good news though soon their will be a coaliton lead by the Garxajis clan with their fellow brothers harti (dhulabahante & warsangeli) and gadabuursi. It will be called harti-garxajis. We will bring back justice to Somaliland

[gurey25]

First of all you dont have the numbers, unless you break up the sacad muse/HJ alliance aka Kulmiye
they will always win elections because their numbers gaurentee 40% of the vote. They will also drag in extra votes from other subclans. To defeat kulmiye you need to increase voter enrolement and unite garxajis around one party and then try to get votes from more gadabursi and harti..

Dhulbahante can play the role of kingmaker and will gaurentee victory to any party they support in numbers.

The problem is garxajis is divided, dhulbahante do not participate fully only a fraction voting, while most HJ and sacad muse rally around one unified block which is kulmiye.

We need a better opposition, in SL, the opposition is divided and weak.

and about the economic conditions of Somaliland, yes theyare abysmal
we are ruled by an oligarchy a few individuals of high networth dictating government policy,
its not a habar awal or habar jeclo thing, all the millionare bussinessmen of all clans are united in screwing over the public and accumulating more wealth and power and undermining government.

We need a government with balls that will tray to wear the trousers in the relationship and dominate the oligarchy and not be mere servants..
Did you see that wikileaks about accounts in a single djibouti bank with over $1billion of deposits from somali customers,
a couple had a over $100 million and dozens were in the 2 digit range.
Thats just one bank, there are more in Djibouti, Dubai and Nairobi banks.
There must be dozens of billions of dollars held by these rich families...

and little of that money flows into the all somalia, infact money is siphoned off the other direction.
imagine what could be done with a fraction of that money!!
Fuck DPworld,fuck the Turks , everything they have built could have been built by somalis and more..

Think about it, Somaliland with a population of around 4 million and is a dirt poor country relying on remittences and the occasional livestock exports, recieves more had currency than Eritrea which is 6 million.
Eritrea which can afford to buy $15 million dollar Sukhoi fighter jets!