What are your opinions of the Garxajis shir (conference/meeting) happening in 2 weeks time?

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Abdurahman tuur was one of the best strategist snm leaders we had. He was a diplomat strategist and soldier. Aideed And tuur had a plan. USC AND SNM had a plan to.rule the former Somali republic. Siilanyo even wrote a well written draft on Somalia Somaliland power sharing in 1989. Based on the values of SNM And USC core principles..problem was caydiid coo deliver and he could subdue abgaal. And we said we cant wait longer abdurahmaan tuurow ku dhawaaq gooni isutaaga. And he did. He didn't like it. Habaryoonis are the most orthodox Somaliland believers. Don't be fooled. By the quarrels between of the isaaq clans online and on website.
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Nomand wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:19 am 1990s was the last and final time garxajis ruled somaliland and you know what tuur did. He tried to run for leadership in mogadishu while aideed was still there.

Habar awal are the most pro somaliland of all isaq clans and habar yoonis are the least. So i would welcome a habar yoonis President, we can make deals with them.
Any isaaq who does not believe in somaliland have no rights to breathe in its natural air let along living with us. There is no one single habar who can publicly oppose somaliland. Habar tii waxaas la timaada ifkaanu ku cadaabayna yagoo nool habraha kalena xaabada aan ku shidayno bay soo gurayan.

Ask those who talk on Facebook in the diaspora xitaa waalidintod baa irdheeyey and they will never return to somaliland. Hadiiba waalidintod lasoo saftan family dhan rag iyo dumar baanu jeelka ku gurna hadaan doonana waan ku dhex wasna to humiliate them. Dadka aan isaaqa ahayn ee somaliland diidan waxa laga yaaba inanu caadi u dilno ama xidhno . Laakiin isaaqa waan torture garayna jidh ahaan iyo maskaxiyanba .
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Re: What are your opinions of the Garxajis shir (conference/meeting) happening in 2 weeks time?

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Nomand wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:41 am What i think will happen:

They will demand the release if their king "black mountain"

They will demand more power sharing, less sacad muuse and more garxajis.

They will demand blood money from the on going battle

And the big one will be:

They will demand a federal state within somaliland.
Garxajis don't give a damn about boqor buurmadow, why isn't anyone taking about the sultan of hy sultan cuunaye?

Anyway unlike habar jeclo and Sacad muuse, Garxajis are not greedy and want equal power sharing with all clans in somaliland including warsangeli, dhulabahante, samaroon, isa and Gaboye! :sland: :sland:
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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:07 am Abdurahman tuur was one of the best strategist snm leaders we had. He was a diplomat strategist and soldier. Aideed And tuur had a plan. USC AND SNM had a plan to.rule the former Somali republic. Siilanyo even wrote a well written draft on Somalia Somaliland power sharing in 1989. Based on the values of SNM And USC core principles..problem was caydiid coo deliver and he could subdue abgaal. And we said we cant wait longer abdurahmaan tuurow ku dhawaaq gooni isutaaga. And he did. He didn't like it. Habaryoonis are the most orthodox Somaliland believers. Don't be fooled. By the quarrels between of the isaaq clans online and on website.
Your not thinking clearly and talk to much nonsense. The situation is dire in somaliland. This isn't like 1990's. Muuse biixi is very unpopular this shir was supposed to happen months ago, it's given him breathing space!
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They should hold the shir every clan is allowed to hold his shir it's caadi some arab Arab sacad muse subclans are going to hold some clan shirs to the parliament elections are soon. Every clan is busy to put a candidate forward
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Tycoon5647 wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:16 pm
Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:07 am Abdurahman tuur was one of the best strategist snm leaders we had. He was a diplomat strategist and soldier. Aideed And tuur had a plan. USC AND SNM had a plan to.rule the former Somali republic. Siilanyo even wrote a well written draft on Somalia Somaliland power sharing in 1989. Based on the values of SNM And USC core principles..problem was caydiid coo deliver and he could subdue abgaal. And we said we cant wait longer abdurahmaan tuurow ku dhawaaq gooni isutaaga. And he did. He didn't like it. Habaryoonis are the most orthodox Somaliland believers. Don't be fooled. By the quarrels between of the isaaq clans online and on website.
Your not thinking clearly and talk to much nonsense. The situation is dire in somaliland. This isn't like 1990's. Muuse biixi is very unpopular this shir was supposed to happen months ago, it's given him breathing space!
Musa biixi is only unpopular among the haber yoonis. But habar awal habar jeclo back him. Harti is against him i am mot sure where samaroon \gadabursi are.

But one thing is for sure musa biixi cannot finish his 5 year term
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Nomand wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:04 pm
Tycoon5647 wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:16 pm
Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:07 am Abdurahman tuur was one of the best strategist snm leaders we had. He was a diplomat strategist and soldier. Aideed And tuur had a plan. USC AND SNM had a plan to.rule the former Somali republic. Siilanyo even wrote a well written draft on Somalia Somaliland power sharing in 1989. Based on the values of SNM And USC core principles..problem was caydiid coo deliver and he could subdue abgaal. And we said we cant wait longer abdurahmaan tuurow ku dhawaaq gooni isutaaga. And he did. He didn't like it. Habaryoonis are the most orthodox Somaliland believers. Don't be fooled. By the quarrels between of the isaaq clans online and on website.
Your not thinking clearly and talk to much nonsense. The situation is dire in somaliland. This isn't like 1990's. Muuse biixi is very unpopular this shir was supposed to happen months ago, it's given him breathing space!
Musa biixi is only unpopular among the haber yoonis. But habar awal habar jeclo back him. Harti is against him i am mot sure where samaroon \gadabursi are.

But one thing is for sure musa biixi cannot finish his 5 year term
He won't finish 2 years otherwise as you said there will be civil war. My only worry is what will happen after? will power in somaliland be shared equally? or will we become like the koonfur? :cry:
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Maybe we should give habar yoonis bigger positions of power in somalia. Give them the speaker seat and couple of important Minister positions. And also back them in elections in somaliland by paying the harti and samaroon\ gadabursi to vote for them.

In return they forget about independence.
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This is not the 1990s. Somaliland has matured it's almost 30 year's political reality Somaliland nationalism is so deeply intrenched into the society. Habaryoonis is not looking for political seats in xamar. The clan dynamics of Somaliland is different than that of Somalia

There is no harti block there is janacsiyaad bahararsane baha nugaleed. These 3 clans are somalilander pure. Garaad jamac. Bashe mahammed cadde . Speaker of parliament in Somaliland

Samaroon are die hard landers vp seylici maxammad casse is the most pro kulmiye

Muse is a shrewd politicians he learned from The best maxamad xaji Ibrahim cigaal
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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:27 pm This is not the 1990s. Somaliland has matured it's almost 30 year's political reality Somaliland nationalism is so deeply intrenched into the society. Habaryoonis is not looking for political seats in xamar. The clan dynamics of Somaliland is different than that of Somalia

There is no harti block there is janacsiyaad bahararsane baha nugaleed. These 3 clans are somalilander pure. Garaad jamac. Bashe mahammed cadde . Speaker of parliament in Somaliland

Samaroon are die hard landers vp seylici maxammad casse is the most pro kulmiye

Muse is a shrewd politicians he learned from The best maxamad xaji Ibrahim cigaal
shrewd? wtf did this nigga learn? Muuse local is ignorant and a fool. Even in Sacad muuse clan people are complaining. He's given Jibril Abokor too much power. They don't know shit about politics and are putting the Sacad muuse name to shame. They are pastoralists and farmers not politicians. Sacad muuse were respected and known as successful business people. do you know how much people hate each other in hargesia now?

When shit hits the fan then you will realize the truth. The marehan were the richest and had the most "shrewd politicians" look what happened to them! If there's a civil war Sacad muuse will lose the most! I'll give it habar jeclo they can hold their own, but in this coming war they will be overwhelmed and then who's going to protect the "shrewd politicians" (sacad muuse)? Every clan is preparing for war the sooner you realize it the better!
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Kid how old you. He gave jibriel abokor to.much power what power. Have u ever been to Somaliland. Who told you a farmer can't be a politician. War maybe you don't know the era if wars is over in Somaliland. 1996 was the last time. The only people we gonna fight is.Somalia and the darods.
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Garxajis are like the HG. They did the bulk of the fighting but gained the least politically while Khalid’s crew who did much less gained the most with the least cost in blood
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False! Jeeganta brought an element of political sophistication to the table, and, for that, they are destined to rule recognition-less Sland well into the future.
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Abdiwahaab habarawal and garxajis and habarjeclo and Arab fought equally in the war. The only difference garxajis particularly hy have a history fighting daroods on the eastern front southern front against ogaden.. also in ancient times 1817 century the garxajis subclans used to whole the floor with the enemy clans of isaaq. Particularly the reer caynaashe the gadhweyn..where as 're habarawal clan mostly lived in the cities sacad muse segments of sacad muse are good farmers and many sacad Muse and ciise muse are city people and coatial people. The sacad muse masterd the art if trading and being a merchant early in the 18.century. in Somaliland The clans all get a fair share. Remember during rayaale time udub was dominated by hy. Siilaanyo ignored samaroon.because he though these fuckers didn't vote for me.
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