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Re: Why do Somali tribes claim Arab lineage? Do we have any recorded history?

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To be honest its ironic you mention this because its one of the things I find incredibly annoying about being Somali. The fact that we have zero self worth or pride in the fact that we are our own linage and that its okay. You will not go to Jennah because You’re Arab nor will you advance further in this Dunya because you are Arab. Just be proud of the the hell you are. In my case I have no doubt that Darood Ismaeel existed or Dir and the other Somali tribes. They were cushitic Muslims and thats nothign to be ashamed of.


Besides Al Carabul Lisan the Prophet SAW said, Arabic is not a ethnicity but a language. Anyone who speaks Arabic is an Arab. In the Arab world its like that because genetic wise the Syrians are former greeks, Romans etc the Moroccons are Berbers, Sudanese are Nubian etc. If Somalis were smart they wouldn’t be so desperate to be considered Arabs and kind’ve used it as a card whenever they need something while still keeping the African card, Somali card etc.
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Arabs are not one ethnic group the Syrians are assyirians Khalid bin alwalleed arabised them. The umayads and abbasids arabised them the true Arabs are in Yemen even nabi Muhammad sallalahu alayhiwasaam was mustacrab was andaanni the true Arab are qahttans the childeren abi quyteba in qataban in the central regions of Yemen.
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old useless topic that has been discussed million times.
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احنا الصوماليين افارقة ونفتخر ومن اصوال كوشية
يالربع هالمدعو خالد علي ( لا بارك الله فيه ) حد يشوف له اقرب مستشفى للامراض النفسية اخاف ينضم لحركة الشباب ويفجر نفسه 😂😂

Khalid ali hadaad nin carab ah tahay car faham oo isoo qor af carabi , anigu mar hore ayaan ku sheegay habar awal intooda badan boqolkiiba 70% ama 80% inay dhashii shiikh isaxaaq ahayn !!
( anigu taariikhda dadka degan gobolada waqooyi wax badan baan ka ogahay )
( historical facts )

1_ caruurtii daraawiishta ee sanadkii 1919 ingriis ka qaatay magaalada taleex markay la tageen magaalada berbera ( caasimadii british somaliland ) waxaa loo dhiibay naago habar awal ah .

2- caruurtii ciidanka xooga dalka soomaaliya ( qeybta 26aad ) sanadkii 1991 bishii january saraakiishii dowladii kacaanka oo boqolkiiba 80% qabay naago habar awal ah ( sacad muuse ) oo xoog ku haystay ama caadii u guursaday sarakiisha waxay kaga tageen magaalada hargeysa caruur badan .

Beesha habar awal iyo dowlada federlaka SOMALIA waa inay wada hadal gaar ah yeeshaan 😂😂😂
Laga wada hadalyo caruurtii xooga dalka soomaaliya iyo NSStii
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Anigu qurjiile xun oo doofaar ismaciil maxaan kala hadli isagan babaan iska leeyahay gebigisaba
Ducaale fagaase mataqaba futtoargeegba ku dhacay accordin to Sayid siigeyste ileen nimu frenjigu kudi jiray wa faasuuq dooraleh it's your fagaase I think wa reer Hagar qurjiile from buhoodle .
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Waxaad ii soo qortay waxba kama fahamin 😂😂😂
isku dhex yaaca waa lagu yaqaana huunada
Nin iidoor ah oo ka liita waligay ma arag
SOMALINET waa in lagaa qabta kkkkkkk waad ku dhex waalatay
Xanuunka ku hayaa waan aqaana , adigu yar ayaa oday cadaan ah oo dutch ah hooyada hortaada ku kufsaday 😂😂
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Inad qurjiile dofaar ah tahay ayaanad fahmin oo an kamasuul ahay ay oo aan kalshaaale iyo meygaagle iyo buhoodle ku gubay not that long ago :D . Ilaa aan ku aastay inaad lugahayga dhunkataan ileen wa Wax adoonimo loo abuuray. Adiga hooyada ciidanka qaranka ayaa futtada ukalaqabta and every one take his turn. Ileen wa kalaxad qurjiile oo ragyaqaan eh. : :)
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Khalid Ali wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:17 am
samirir wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:02 am
Khalid Ali wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:44 pm What I know is we Isaaq are descendant of sheikh isxaaq ibn axmed al ridawi. Who was from asmara ciraaq. Does that make us Arabs today perhaps not we are somalisized culturally socially . And mixed with other Somali groups.
You need to be slapped for making up lies like that. There's no Isaaq Ridawi in Arab history books he's a fictional character made up by Somalis.

Takalam carabi yaa ibn Aswad.
Go read some book about our patriarch sheikh isxaaq ibn axmed you will find his biography in all Arab libraries
Just because your filthy darood jabarti is garac fatherless oromo galla doesn't mean we isaaq are.
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Its not just somalis. Every Muslim country has people who claim Banu Hashim and somalia is no different sxb. Maybe there are some authentuc ones. Allahu aclam.
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Almakhzumi wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:06 pm Its not just somalis. Every Muslim country has people who claim Banu Hashim and somalia is no different sxb. Maybe there are some authentuc ones. Allahu aclam.
Yeah, but Majority Somalis claim Ahlul Bayt. In other countries they claim Ahlul Bayt for political power. Retards like Khalid Ali think its reality.
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Yes there is recorded history for several Somali clans with genealogy going to the prophets family, whether you reject them or not does not change the fact that these clans for the most part acknowledge and believe their lineage passed down to them through the family for centuries.

Arab wannabe Somalis I hate them and we should seperate that from those with lineages leading to the prophets family.

99% of Somalis do not subscribe to Arabs culturally, politically and even the religion as Somalis are all Sunni Muslim from the Ahlu Sunna, while Arabs have everything from Jews, Christians, Shia, Alawi, Hanafi, Madkhalis, Khawarij, Wahabis etc etc

Somalis majority of us believe in the Quraan and Sunnah and follow the teachings of Sufi scholars, its only the 20th century we had Saudi influence.
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Somali people are Cushitic we are far from Arab. Our closest relatives are Afar and Oromo and Tutsi. The reason we distance our self from other Cushitic people is they got a lot of Christians and pegans.
We Somali people are 99% Muslim. We were some of the first Muslim people in the world. When the sahaba migrated from Mecca to Abyssinia many of them settled along the coast. Places like Zayla have 1 of the oldest mosques in the world from the 6th century. That is why Somalis are closer to Arabs Muslims than fellow Cushitic people.
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dalalos101 wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:29 pm Yes there is recorded history for several Somali clans with genealogy going to the prophets family, whether you reject them or not does not change the fact that these clans for the most part acknowledge and believe their lineage passed down to them through the family for centuries.

Arab wannabe Somalis I hate them and we should seperate that from those with lineages leading to the prophets family.

99% of Somalis do not subscribe to Arabs culturally, politically and even the religion as Somalis are all Sunni Muslim from the Ahlu Sunna, while Arabs have everything from Jews, Christians, Shia, Alawi, Hanafi, Madkhalis, Khawarij, Wahabis etc etc

Somalis majority of us believe in the Quraan and Sunnah and follow the teachings of Sufi scholars, its only the 20th century we had Saudi influence.
Sufi are the worst. They do shirk, you idiot. They falsely claim the Prophets family for political power over other Somalis. In Sufi and Shiaism. They believe Quraysh and Arab are superior so to get a high position in status you have to claim Arab or Quraysh even if it's a lie. That's where it originated from. There's no proof. If there's proof please provide RELIABLE sources not just something out of your ass.
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samirir wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:48 pm
dalalos101 wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:29 pm Yes there is recorded history for several Somali clans with genealogy going to the prophets family, whether you reject them or not does not change the fact that these clans for the most part acknowledge and believe their lineage passed down to them through the family for centuries.

Arab wannabe Somalis I hate them and we should seperate that from those with lineages leading to the prophets family.

99% of Somalis do not subscribe to Arabs culturally, politically and even the religion as Somalis are all Sunni Muslim from the Ahlu Sunna, while Arabs have everything from Jews, Christians, Shia, Alawi, Hanafi, Madkhalis, Khawarij, Wahabis etc etc

Somalis majority of us believe in the Quraan and Sunnah and follow the teachings of Sufi scholars, its only the 20th century we had Saudi influence.
Sufi are the worst. They do shirk, you idiot. They falsely claim the Prophets family for political power over other Somalis. In Sufi and Shiaism. They believe Quraysh and Arab are superior so to get a high position in status you have to claim Arab or Quraysh even if it's a lie. That's where it originated from. There's no proof. If there's proof please provide RELIABLE sources not just something out of your ass.
I am sorry you are suffering from deep inferiority complex towards Arabs.

You should not project your inadequacy on others, you are probably not even Somali. To believe Arab are superior to others is completely unislamic and furthermore un-Somali.
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Arabs are superior
Prophet Mohammed was Arab
Prophet salah was Arab
Prophet ishmael was Arab
The wife of Haruun and nabi.muse hiswife was Arab Ashbil madyam.

Why do.some people hate Arabs irrationally there are good Arabs and bad Arabs especially darood and hawiye want to beg Arab for aid money and behind back they hate them.
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