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Khalid Ali wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:03 am Saudi and abudhabi run the entire middle east along with Israel telaviv. The rest is zero. And Somaliland and uae are strategic partners till eternity allow dhowr ilma sheikh zayid.

The UAE are busy killing and starving Yemeni children, have you no shame, they are also enemies of your Somali brother in Djibouti, have you no shame.

Bucur bacayr yibir.

Tbh though Qatar has more global reach than UAE. The reason why I don’t want to be enemies with them is not for geopolitical reasons but the fact that it has been a major hub for Somalis, snd oretty welcoming to them too.

xiimaaya wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:44 am Faarmajo is possibly the next siyad bare with strong central gov.



USA wants stable Somalia and will give all power to this gov as natia said faarmajo is reliable partner several months ago .



Say good bye to federalism and hello to Abee Farmaajo .

Not true. US wants peace in the region. It wants to control the entire Horn region. They support US style federal system, which farmajo wants also.
Dictatorships and centralism are a thing of the past. The US wants to bring democracy and capitalism to the Horn.

Murax wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:56 am Togdeer/Xiimaaya,

US is the most reliable strategic global partner in the world. EU, Arab league, China nobody carries as much weight as the States. The global presence, currency dollar reserve, veto power in the security council could go on and on. I don’t blame any weak, developing Gov that wants to solidify itself attaching itself to America’s hip. These are just facts.

US carries more weight and power than any other country on earth.
However the US is far from being reliable and always breaks deals. US only cares for its own interests if it doesn’t achieve its goal they would throw you under the bus. They have done this to so many countries.

Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:53 am

Murax wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:56 am Togdeer/Xiimaaya,

US is the most reliable strategic global partner in the world. EU, Arab league, China nobody carries as much weight as the States. The global presence, currency dollar reserve, veto power in the security council could go on and on. I don’t blame any weak, developing Gov that wants to solidify itself attaching itself to America’s hip. These are just facts.

US carries more weight and power than any other country on earth.
However the US is far from being reliable and always breaks deals. US only cares for its own interests if it doesn’t achieve its goal they would throw you under the bus. They have done this to so many countries.

Yes they have but only when the said country acts like such a nacas that they have no choice. Look how many countries are afloat cuz of their affiliation. With Somalia the fact that this is even mentioned is a welcoming site. China, Turkey etc that is all I used to hear about before. US brings in military support and gulf cash flow

Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:53 am

Murax wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:56 am Togdeer/Xiimaaya,

US is the most reliable strategic global partner in the world. EU, Arab league, China nobody carries as much weight as the States. The global presence, currency dollar reserve, veto power in the security council could go on and on. I don’t blame any weak, developing Gov that wants to solidify itself attaching itself to America’s hip. These are just facts.

US carries more weight and power than any other country on earth.
However the US is far from being reliable and always breaks deals. US only cares for its own interests if it doesn’t achieve its goal they would throw you under the bus. They have done this to so many countries.

Very impressed

You are now learning how the world works. You secionist agenda is the opposite of the interest of the IC.

Example. America had a civil war, whereby one side claimed to be the government and the other were self labeled rebels. The government side used excessive force mainly fatal,to gain back control from the the south.

If they lobby for your ictraaf, the south will use that exact law to bid for independence. You need to understand that Somalia are too homogeneous to be divided politically, and if we are divided no other country can fight for unity.

Kismaayo21 wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:19 am

Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:53 am

Murax wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:56 am Togdeer/Xiimaaya,

US is the most reliable strategic global partner in the world. EU, Arab league, China nobody carries as much weight as the States. The global presence, currency dollar reserve, veto power in the security council could go on and on. I don’t blame any weak, developing Gov that wants to solidify itself attaching itself to America’s hip. These are just facts.

US carries more weight and power than any other country on earth.
However the US is far from being reliable and always breaks deals. US only cares for its own interests if it doesn’t achieve its goal they would throw you under the bus. They have done this to so many countries.

Very impressed

You are now learning how the world works. You secionist agenda is the opposite of the interest of the IC.

Example. America had a civil war, whereby one side claimed to be the government and the other were self labeled rebels. The government side used excessive force mainly fatal,to gain back control from the the south.

If they lobby for your ictraaf, the south will use that exact law to bid for independence. You need to understand that Somalia are too homogeneous to be divided politically, and if we are divided no other country can fight for unity.

Wow wow wow calm down I was just doing political analysis I have never mentioned unity or said I would unite. I stand by somaliland, my views don’t change.

Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:49 pm

Kismaayo21 wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:19 am

Togdeer wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:53 am

US carries more weight and power than any other country on earth.
However the US is far from being reliable and always breaks deals. US only cares for its own interests if it doesn’t achieve its goal they would throw you under the bus. They have done this to so many countries.

Very impressed

You are now learning how the world works. You secionist agenda is the opposite of the interest of the IC.

Example. America had a civil war, whereby one side claimed to be the government and the other were self labeled rebels. The government side used excessive force mainly fatal,to gain back control from the the south.

If they lobby for your ictraaf, the south will use that exact law to bid for independence. You need to understand that Somalia are too homogeneous to be divided politically, and if we are divided no other country can fight for unity.

Wow wow wow calm down I was just doing political analysis I have never mentioned unity or said I would unite. I stand by somaliland, my views don’t change.

It doesn’t really matter the slightest if you stand by your views, it is not feasible, it’s not tangible as you explained earlier. So continue wasting your time, it’s good by me

What matters is the IC which we are a part of. Not what Musses views are.

Murax wrote: Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:28 pm Befriending the most powerful geopolitical force in the world America?

#StayWinningFarmaajo

#StaywinningFarmaajo

Abkowdhiblaawe,

Okay so the GCC is it a plot to put all these countries under Saudi? Is NATO a plan to put all those countries under the US? Is. NAFTA a plan to put the US under Mexico?

Murax wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:11 am Abkowdhiblaawe,

Okay so the GCC is it a plot to put all these countries under Saudi? Is NATO a plan to put all those countries under the US? Is. NAFTA a plan to put the US under Mexico?

Surely you aint that naive. No need to romanticise this sxb.

Even If this economic integration was genuine. Now is not the right time for Somalia.

Thirdly, how come we know so little about this deal? The whole thing is fishy.

Walahi o bilahi o talahi i was told about these plans of economic integration already in 2012 from a TPLF PHD holder who came to sweden for seminars in my university.

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:48 am

Murax wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:11 am Abkowdhiblaawe,

Okay so the GCC is it a plot to put all these countries under Saudi? Is NATO a plan to put all those countries under the US? Is. NAFTA a plan to put the US under Mexico?

Surely you aint that naive. No need to romanticise this sxb.

Even If this economic integration was genuine. Now is not the right time for Somalia.

Thirdly, how come we know so little about this deal? The whole thing is fishy.

Walahi o bilahi o talahi i was told about these plans of economic integration already in 2012 from a TPLF PHD holder who came to sweden for seminars in my university.

Warsheekh lets keep it all the way 100. Ethiopia always was and always will be the West’s darling in the Horn whether from the Carter days until today. Can we agree on that? The West was always worried a strong viable Somalia would turn their eyes to Somali Galbeed. Being that we have been fighting amxaaro for centuries that is a valid reason for the West to be concerned. Okay lets move on to the next point. Can we agree that a major part of Somalia’s instability was Ethiopia, Eritra using us Somalis against each other. Even if you hate Farmaajo which you have the right to do the fact that Ethiopia, Eritra are agreeing to only deal with one Somali Gov from now on regardless of who’s in power is a plus. Lastly am I so stupid to think that these are going to be fair deal for Somalis? That we basically are going to get the short end of the stick to Ethiopia? Hell no. Considering how we back stab each other do we have a choice? NO.

Murax

You must be naive if you believe "integration" with Ethiopia is good. We need to be fully self sufficient. We don't shisheeye having leverage over us.

Ethiopia is a strong western ally ally I will remain the second strongest ally is Egypt those 2 countries the west always backs . Somalia has no fuctioning govt it doesn't cotrol it's territory's it's not in any position at the moment to make such deals with ethiopia or with Kenya.

Khalid Ali wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:11 am Ethiopia is a strong western ally ally I will remain the second strongest ally is Egypt those 2 countries the west always backs . Somalia has no fuctioning govt it doesn't cotrol it's territory's it's not in any position at the moment to make such deals with ethiopia or with Kenya.

The deal I think that was signed was ‘amaan waa ku siinaynaa just know ur place when it comes to us’ we’re not equals. I think that is a better deal than we will work with AS, empower the sakiins of the world, and keep you guys down. Baby steps.