Oromia and Harar are a buffer zone between Amhara extremists and Somalis-you should want us to be strong, despite..

[Waachis]

Don't mislead the unsuspecting Somali youth who doesn't know the Ethiopian demographics. I have been brought up both Amhara and Oromo in my childhood.
Amharas believe "Etobiyawi andinat" the unity of Ethiopia regardless of region, while the Oromo believes "goosaa" meaning clan.
Amharas believe ownership of Gondhar, Gojaam, and Wollo, while Oromos believe they own part of Somalia.
Deal with Amharas, and spare us for the fake alliance. We know who our enemy is. night night.

doqonkii boy,

Your childhood and today's ethiopia=totally different. oromo do not care for clans, that's a somali thing.
we care for overall Oromo interests and well being. u could learn a lot from us, in that regard.
just as we can learn a lot from somalis. it's a mutual thing.

amharas believe in unity, because their culture is dominant, they relate more to it, because the empire was built by oromo muscles + their culture.
simple as that.
amhara believe jigjiga and somali region is theirs too by the way hence the reason why they protested there.
they claim benishangul gumuz. they claim parts of oromia. they claim afar. they claim parts of tigray.
they have land disputes with sudan on the western borders. LOL wow.

do not worry-we will handle the amhara extremist boogey man.

Do the Oromo believe they own parts of Somalia ? Do they believe they own Mooyaale, Babile, parts of Faafan, Liibaan region, Nogob region? Where exactly does the Oromo border ends? Post a map

I’m worrying more about your people than the Habashis especially consider a lot Oromo people have been moving into Somalia for the past two decades

1) No we do not believe any land in Somalia is ours. But, we'd like to use your ports for a decent price, especially if Ethiopia collapses (it may collapse if the amhara extremists keep pushing us).

2) Mooyale=disputed. Babile=disputed. Tell me what parts of Faafan (be specific). Liiban=was boran land, the marehan were brought with the italians during their occupation of ethiopia. italians saw borana are pro ethiopia so they encouraged some somali clans to massacre them and take their lands.


read Nomads in the Shadows of Empires: Contests, Conflicts and Legacies on the Southern Ethiopian-Northern Kenyan Frontier
Book by Gufu Oba, if you need proof for this.


I'll admit I do not know much about nogob. from what little i know-over 95 percent of its people are somalis, so i see no reason why oromos would claim it.

[Mustafee101]

doqonkii boy,

Your childhood and today's ethiopia=totally different. oromo do not care for clans, that's a somali thing.
we care for overall Oromo interests and well being. u could learn a lot from us, in that regard.
just as we can learn a lot from somalis. it's a mutual thing.

amharas believe in unity, because their culture is dominant, they relate more to it, because the empire was built by oromo muscles + their culture.
simple as that.
amhara believe jigjiga and somali region is theirs too by the way hence the reason why they protested there.
they claim benishangul gumuz. they claim parts of oromia. they claim afar. they claim parts of tigray.
they have land disputes with sudan on the western borders. LOL wow.

do not worry-we will handle the amhara extremist boogey man.

Do the Oromo believe they own parts of Somalia ? Do they believe they own Mooyaale, Babile, parts of Faafan, Liibaan region, Nogob region? Where exactly does the Oromo border ends? Post a map

I’m worrying more about your people than the Habashis especially consider a lot Oromo people have been moving into Somalia for the past two decades

1) No we do not believe any land in Somalia is ours. But, we'd like to use your ports for a decent price, especially if Ethiopia collapses (it may collapse if the amhara extremists keep pushing us).

2) Mooyale=disputed. Babile=disputed. Tell me what parts of Faafan (be specific). Liiban=was boran land, the marehan were brought with the italians during their occupation of ethiopia. italians saw borana are pro ethiopia so they encouraged some somali clans to massacre them and take their lands.


read Nomads in the Shadows of Empires: Contests, Conflicts and Legacies on the Southern Ethiopian-Northern Kenyan Frontier
Book by Gufu Oba, if you need proof for this.


I'll admit I do not know much about nogob. from what little i know-over 95 percent of its people are somalis, so i see no reason why oromos would claim it.

Your people already took over Marehan land in West of Faafan region like Dacawaale, Dhangago, Ceel Amir and you have attacked the Geri Koombe people in Tuuli Gulled. I don’t remember which part of Nogob region but Oromo did claim large parts on Nogob. I saw the map on Facebook. You also claimed the whole Liibaan region. Marehan are not native to Liibaan, they settle there during the European colonials. But Somalis especially Garre and Dagoodiya have always live there. Liibaan belongs to Somalis

[Typhoon]

as long as oromo maintain EPRDF and ethiopian security apparatus, we consider habash hegemony intact

waachis need to grow some balls and get a nation state with self determination, afterall we live under westphelian nation state system were is you nation state

somalis have 2 states and oromos cant unchain their mind from the the human gulag called ethiopia

aids is being spread among the oromo so as to reduce their population

all the means of production in ethiopia is controlled by habasha

why are oromo businessman among the somalis more successful then among the habasha


it will take another 20 years for oromos to gain self confidence, the have been abroad only 20 years and they rediscovered their identity, so it will take another 20 years to apply and liberate themselfs


ethiopia and nigeria are prisons to undermine historic muslim sultantes, it will take 50 years for 5g to reach oromos, talk about jim crow

[zidane88]

Don't mislead the unsuspecting Somali youth who doesn't know the Ethiopian demographics. I have been brought up both Amhara and Oromo in my childhood.
Amharas believe "Etobiyawi andinat" the unity of Ethiopia regardless of region, while the Oromo believes "goosaa" meaning clan.
Amharas believe ownership of Gondhar, Gojaam, and Wollo, while Oromos believe they own part of Somalia.
Deal with Amharas, and spare us for the fake alliance. We know who our enemy is. night night.

doqonkii boy,

Your childhood and today's ethiopia=totally different. oromo do not care for clans, that's a somali thing.
we care for overall Oromo interests and well being. u could learn a lot from us, in that regard.
just as we can learn a lot from somalis. it's a mutual thing.

amharas believe in unity, because their culture is dominant, they relate more to it, because the empire was built by oromo muscles + their culture.
simple as that.
amhara believe jigjiga and somali region is theirs too by the way hence the reason why they protested there.
they claim benishangul gumuz. they claim parts of oromia. they claim afar. they claim parts of tigray.
they have land disputes with sudan on the western borders. LOL wow.

do not worry-we will handle the amhara extremist boogey man.

Again don't lie and mislead the Somalis. Amhara want to rule Jigjiga and other cities of ethiopia as centralist government ( idon't agree that) not own it, while the Oromo want to own it.
You see the difference now Gaala boy.
Boogey-man Amhara let me jog your memory
https://www.culturalsurvival.org/public ... e-violence

[zidane88]

That was then Oromos on the run, and now look how the demographics of your biggest city is, are they Boogey-man gaala-boy
http://worldpopulationreview.com/world- ... opulation/

[theyuusuf143]

As saalaxbaashe , said on behalf of somaliland republic, we don't recognize half of your population as Oromos, they are actually somalis and they belong to us ( Dir, Soomali ) garre and boran are the same peaople , no difference. They are both Somali , the fact that boran is little bit mixed with the Oromos does mean they are all Oromos, no way . And we don't accept.

We are neutral between you and the amhara , but prefer your victory over them. For obvious reasons.

[St8OuttaDirree]

As saalaxbaashe , said on behalf of somaliland republic, we don't recognize half of your population as Oromos, they are actually somalis and they belong to us ( Dir, Soomali ) garre and boran are the same peaople , no difference. They are both Somali , the fact that boran is little bit mixed with the Oromos does mean they are all Oromos, no way . And we don't accept.

We are neutral between you and the amhara , but prefer your victory over them. For obvious reasons.

Who do you consider Somali? The Hararge Oromo, Arsi-Bale?

That’s ridiculous my friend. Even if there are people of Somali origins, they’re fully Oromo today and have intermixed with Oromos. As an Oromo, you have to marry out from a different clan. So technically everyone is mixed.

And in regards to Boran. They are just Borana. They are the original Oromos. If they aren’t Oromo, no one is.

[theyuusuf143]

As saalaxbaashe , said on behalf of somaliland republic, we don't recognize half of your population as Oromos, they are actually somalis and they belong to us ( Dir, Soomali ) garre and boran are the same peaople , no difference. They are both Somali , the fact that boran is little bit mixed with the Oromos does mean they are all Oromos, no way . And we don't accept.

We are neutral between you and the amhara , but prefer your victory over them. For obvious reasons.

Who do you consider Somali? The Hararge Oromo, Arsi-Bale?

That’s ridiculous my friend. Even if there are people of Somali origins, they’re fully Oromo today and have intermixed with Oromos. As an Oromo, you have to marry out from a different clan. So technically everyone is mixed.

And in regards to Boran. They are just Borana. They are the original Oromos. If they aren’t Oromo, no one is.

East hararge , and parts of bale and borena border with the somali region. The fact that they can speak your language does not mean they are Oromo. Why would i let you take my people while I can take them from you.

[St8OuttaDirree]

As saalaxbaashe , said on behalf of somaliland republic, we don't recognize half of your population as Oromos, they are actually somalis and they belong to us ( Dir, Soomali ) garre and boran are the same peaople , no difference. They are both Somali , the fact that boran is little bit mixed with the Oromos does mean they are all Oromos, no way . And we don't accept.

We are neutral between you and the amhara , but prefer your victory over them. For obvious reasons.

Who do you consider Somali? The Hararge Oromo, Arsi-Bale?

That’s ridiculous my friend. Even if there are people of Somali origins, they’re fully Oromo today and have intermixed with Oromos. As an Oromo, you have to marry out from a different clan. So technically everyone is mixed.

And in regards to Boran. They are just Borana. They are the original Oromos. If they aren’t Oromo, no one is.

East hararge , and parts of bale and borena border with the somali region. The fact that they can speak your language does not mean they are Oromo. Why would i let you take my people while I can take them from you.

I’m from the very tip of east Hararge. Yeah somewhere down the line some of us have Somali lineage or origins but we are fully Oromo today in language and culture.

I have no problem with Somalis, but I wouldn’t claim Somalis being part of the Oromo nation or vice versa.

Somali is Somali, Oromo is Oromo. We are neighbors who unfortunately have gone through some tragic conflicts recently destroying our once alliance in the region.

Hopefully one day that trust and alliance comes back, and we can live at peace.


Zidane- what places do Oromos want to own?

Places on the border are in dispute, I’ll man up and claim both Oromo and Somali can claim as we both reside in these towns/villages etc. I’m not going to bark and claim every disputed place for Oromos only. That’s ridiculous on both sides of the fence. Everyone should learn to live in peace with one another. They have for centuries up until the last few years. Hopefully things go back to the way they were. You’d only hear about a few clannish type of conflicts but no major fight they way we had it last year.

I will always blame the EPRDF and OPDO for their involvement of these ongoing conflicts. Them and their little puppets alike, Illey, Shide etc all are responsible and should pay the price.

[theyuusuf143]

There is no such thing fully Oromo , in border areas. it depends on the communities , some Oromo feel like Somalis and some Somalis feel like Oromo. There is an identity war going on between us. I hope we will beat you in your own game , peacefully without bloodshed.

[St8OuttaDirree]

There is no such thing fully Oromo , in border areas. it depends on the communities , some Oromo feel like Somalis and some Somalis feel like Oromo. There is an identity war going on between us. I hope we will beat you in your own game , peacefully without bloodshed.

No identity war my friend. Some Oromos feel closer to Somalis(Jarso) and some Somalis closer to Oromos(Gurguras).

They’ve all lived in peace for a long time. If you’re not from this area, please keep your opinions to your self. No identity war at all. These communities have intermarried and coexisted for a long time. The issue will definitely get better and people can go on with their daily lives again. Just a matter of time.

[BestPlaya]

A qeerro guy on Facebook once told me there are Gerri and Marehan Oromo who live in the midst of Aloo clan .He even bragged about their fine looks saying something like "Our Geri Kombe are more good looking than the dull skinny Gerri of Tulli Guleed" lmao

Also ,Ogaden clans at the border use to interact and marry from The Arsi and sections of Afran Qaalo .There is renowned sub clan of Ree Ugaas Nuur (Ree Cabdille) who are clan chiefs for sections of the Arsi .They'recalled Ree Dhaadhi .I might be wrong with the exact name of that clan .


A Gurre friend whom I sometimes back met in Kismayo told a story about how they constantly waged war with the Oromo .He was like " Niyahow Oromada waan iska dhicinaaye blse waxaa kujira niman Daarood ah oo aad u dagaalamaya " that friend didn't know my clan at that particular time .I further inquired about that Somali clan who fight for the Ormo .He said that they are called Ree Waafate and they're Daarods who assimilated into the Oromo .I told him Waafate is sub clan of Ogaden and he was virtually astounded.He didn't know his archenemies are infact Oromized sections of Ogaden.

Camar and many sections of Ree Cabdille also heavily intermingle with Oromo and large number of them even reach Balbaleeti and beyond .But unfortunately ,the clashes of the rowdy Gallas hit them the hardest and many if not all fled from their lives.



I would like to remind the Yuusuf and other iidoor daydreamers that Absame has the largest Somali population within Oromo .Harti has the largest Somali Population within the Yemenis and Omanis .Just a reminder

[Xildiiid]

^
Isaaq is a standalone clan.

We dont need other Somalis, Arabs nor Oromos.

We will trade with other communities and look after our interests.

[zidane88]

Who do you consider Somali? The Hararge Oromo, Arsi-Bale?

That’s ridiculous my friend. Even if there are people of Somali origins, they’re fully Oromo today and have intermixed with Oromos. As an Oromo, you have to marry out from a different clan. So technically everyone is mixed.

And in regards to Boran. They are just Borana. They are the original Oromos. If they aren’t Oromo, no one is.

East hararge , and parts of bale and borena border with the somali region. The fact that they can speak your language does not mean they are Oromo. Why would i let you take my people while I can take them from you.

I’m from the very tip of east Hararge. Yeah somewhere down the line some of us have Somali lineage or origins but we are fully Oromo today in language and culture.

I have no problem with Somalis, but I wouldn’t claim Somalis being part of the Oromo nation or vice versa.

Somali is Somali, Oromo is Oromo. We are neighbors who unfortunately have gone through some tragic conflicts recently destroying our once alliance in the region.

Hopefully one day that trust and alliance comes back, and we can live at peace.


Zidane- what places do Oromos want to own?

Places on the border are in dispute, I’ll man up and claim both Oromo and Somali can claim as we both reside in these towns/villages etc. I’m not going to bark and claim every disputed place for Oromos only. That’s ridiculous on both sides of the fence. Everyone should learn to live in peace with one another. They have for centuries up until the last few years. Hopefully things go back to the way they were. You’d only hear about a few clannish type of conflicts but no major fight they way we had it last year.

I will always blame the EPRDF and OPDO for their involvement of these ongoing conflicts. Them and their little puppets alike, Illey, Shide etc all are responsible and should pay the price.
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Thank you Sout8ere for your understanding of the situation. The part of claiming lands is not exclusive only to Oromos, but we, Somalis, have had the same beliefs that we own Awasa. The problem this time is Oromo using most of the aggression masterminded by OPDO using their puppets. You're right we, Somalis, always believed that Hararge Oromo, and Borana are closer to us than Wallega or Shewa Oromos, but that looks like is changing. The situation doesn't want denial as waachis is doing, always sugar-coating serious situation.
Nagaati! Rabi saakhin Mujaahid Sout8ere.

[St8OuttaDirree]

East hararge , and parts of bale and borena border with the somali region. The fact that they can speak your language does not mean they are Oromo. Why would i let you take my people while I can take them from you.

I’m from the very tip of east Hararge. Yeah somewhere down the line some of us have Somali lineage or origins but we are fully Oromo today in language and culture.

I have no problem with Somalis, but I wouldn’t claim Somalis being part of the Oromo nation or vice versa.

Somali is Somali, Oromo is Oromo. We are neighbors who unfortunately have gone through some tragic conflicts recently destroying our once alliance in the region.

Hopefully one day that trust and alliance comes back, and we can live at peace.


Zidane- what places do Oromos want to own?

Places on the border are in dispute, I’ll man up and claim both Oromo and Somali can claim as we both reside in these towns/villages etc. I’m not going to bark and claim every disputed place for Oromos only. That’s ridiculous on both sides of the fence. Everyone should learn to live in peace with one another. They have for centuries up until the last few years. Hopefully things go back to the way they were. You’d only hear about a few clannish type of conflicts but no major fight they way we had it last year.

I will always blame the EPRDF and OPDO for their involvement of these ongoing conflicts. Them and their little puppets alike, Illey, Shide etc all are responsible and should pay the price.

Thank you Sout8ere for your understanding of the situation. The part of claiming lands is not exclusive only to Oromos, but we, Somalis, have had the same beliefs that we own Awasa. The problem this time is Oromo using most of the aggression masterminded by OPDO using their puppets. You're right we, Somalis, always believed that Hararge Oromo, and Borana are closer to us than Wallega or Shewa Oromos, but that looks like is changing. The situation doesn't want denial as waachis is doing, always sugar-coating serious situation.
Nagaati! Rabi saakhin Mujaahid Sout8ere.

Glad to see we’re man enough to admit our people’s weaknesses and claims.

It really won’t take anyone anywhere this day in age. We’re in 2019 and people still focus on this is my land that is your land etc. it’s better we use the land and recourses we have, build our communities and evolve as a people so we can compete in the larger international community.

If Oromo can truly get to a point and compete with leading world economies, I won’t mind giving up a town or village. If it helps us gain, and prevents any ongoing conflicts I see no issue with it.

The ODP are horrible politicians and have really bad leadership. I really wish this group dissolves into the trash they are.

OLF has the heart of the Oromo nation, but they need a lot of reforming as well if they want to compete and grow in there region. Time will tell brother, inshaAllah we will see what kind of garbage results the ODP shove down our throats coming election.

In regards to Hararge Oromos, we’ve always been Oromo nationalistic and our people and land the first to have an OLA army. We’ve always had a soft spot for Somalis, as we intermix and neighbor one another. You won’t see things getting worse. Tension was definitely there, but that was due to orchestrated conflicts from leading elites that have no love or respect for our peoples. We were all too weak to see their divide and rule tactics unfortunately.

Give it time to heal. Tomorrow is another day, we can always remember and move on.