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gurey25 wrote: Sun May 26, 2019 8:13 pm

TheGrumpyGeeljire wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 3:18 am

gurey25 wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 7:51 pm The US and UK are war mongers they started WW2.
Churchill was pushing for war with Germany for years and finally succeeded by tricking the dumb poles into starting a war with the Germans by abusing German civilians and walking out of negotiations.
And FDR deliberately started a war with Japan by hitting them with crippling sanctions that gave them the choice of a humiliating surrender to the US or war, they chose to go down fighting on their feet rather than going on their knees and we got pearl harbor.
FDR was delighted.

History is written by the victors everything you learned about history of Europe is British mythology and propaganda.

Bro send me your sources. I am loving this alternative view of WW2. I believe you but I don't know where to get books that admit as much.

My sources are practically every single history book about the period ever published, I can get you a list but it's unnecessary because any book you pickup from a library will contain all I said in my post because they are facts.

The way their propaganda works is by deflecting attention and pushing own narrative , if they omit facts they will be caught out so they minimize attention and hide them away in the corner.
News stories also work the same.

Every book about Churchill will tell you about his hatred for Hitler and the nazi party as soon as Germany started getting back on its feet.
The reason is Churchill was an agressive mad dog that didn't care about the consequences and wanted war as soon as possible by any means necessary.
The establishment had the same hostility but we're thinking long-term and sensibly because British rearmament would not be complete till 1941
Yes even the great appeaser chamberlain Mr peace in our time would have found a way to start a war with Germany and destroy it because it is British strategic policy since 1700 never allowing a single state to dominate Europe.

Churchill and the French interfering between Poland and Germany is a fact .
During negotiations in which Germany was willing to concede allot of land in exchange for a fair settlement the British and French give the poles gaurentees against Germany if the talks don't succeed.
The dumb poles believed that since the French outnumbered the German army 2 to one in manpower and equipment not including the British they did not have to negotiate,maybe they thought they could gain some extra land from Germany when it eventually loses.

They failed to account for the change in the nature of warfare in this blitzkrieg and combined arms .

It's all there in the open they bother to hide it they can't because they have to include facts .
Even the biggest works of western propaganda you will find what I just said .

And after all I said you still don't want to search for yourself, you can look at any book by John Keegan.
Chester Willmott : The struggle for Europe
And David Irving's 'churchill, a struggle for power'

Murax wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 8:23 am FAH is trust trolling you guys. This is nothing more than a joke this talk of war. N Korea, Iran all this is BS.

Murax wrote: Mon May 27, 2019 8:23 am FAH is trust trolling you guys. This is nothing more than a joke this talk of war. N Korea, Iran all this is BS.

Madd_Scientist_ wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:21 pm Americans what'd u expect? U should be more like the Swedes I tell ya

Django wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:56 am There will be no war with Iran.
Mark my words.

Django wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:34 am

paperino wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:55 am

Django wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:34 am

The US can actually win the war, but the cost ($trillions, damage to economy, millions of death & displaced) isn't worth it, particularly at a time when Trump is counting on a booming economy for re-election. After re-election, there's a high probability of war.