AUN Mohamed Afrah Qanyare

[Mk777]

“The Dabadheer drought of 1974-75 forced over 105,000 victims to settle the coast and interior of the riverine region. These settlements led to the creation of new regions such as the middle Juba for the Ogaden, Gedo for Marehan and Lower Jubba for Harti. Darodization was also reflected in the quest for the missing Somalia, in which successive governments paid more attention to the linearisation of the Ogaden than to that of Djibouti and the NFD. Indeed the Ogaden war caused another massive influx of refugees to be settled in the invented region”
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DPw ... es&f=false
It is a fact whether by land air or sea, Ogaden were resettled in huge numbers in Middle Juba. There was also a large settlement next to the village which My family are from luuq jee-low. Imagine those same people in luuq jeelow 30 years later, claim they were in beledweyne before me .Sounds ridiculous right? As I have said awliyahan Mahamed zubeer were present but not in large numbers and in Gedo were they probably outnumbered marehan back then. As for ministers, there was a governor of Gedo who was gaaljecel I’m sure, and a colonel I believe called cabaas who was part of the USC who was running kismayo for a while.MSB AUN also I believe had some sort of agenda against us as he did not recognise some very large degmos of ours in Hiiraan officially. Xasan yacquub was also of gaaljecel ancestry. As I have stated previously, you cannot tell me for instance any tribe other than abgaal are the traditional owners of xamar. Why is that? Because the tuulos around xamar are all there’s. Sidoo kale, cida deegto the all the tuulos surrounding kismayo wala yaqaana and they do not include any daarood. As I have previously said I have no issues with Ogadens I see all somalis as brothers. But It is ridiculous to claim you are Native to a city which u are not and do not live anywhere within 68 miles of.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

So he was a moryaan warlord? Ilahaay baa la xisaabtami.
Ilahaay unc iyo moryanta taagersan aduun iyo aakhiraba ha ku cadaabo.

[paperino]

So he was a moryaan warlord? Ilahaay baa la xisaabtami.
Ilahaay unc iyo moryanta taagersan aduun iyo aakhiraba ha ku cadaabo.

Habaaring someone who has departed achieves nothing. Instead, you could get ajr if you ask Allah to forgive him. AUN.

[Django]

“The Dabadheer drought of 1974-75 forced over 105,000 victims to settle the coast and interior of the riverine region. These settlements led to the creation of new regions such as the middle Juba for the Ogaden, Gedo for Marehan and Lower Jubba for Harti. Darodization was also reflected in the quest for the missing Somalia, in which successive governments paid more attention to the linearisation of the Ogaden than to that of Djibouti and the NFD. Indeed the Ogaden war caused another massive influx of refugees to be settled in the invented region”
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DPw ... es&f=false
It is a fact whether by land air or sea, Ogaden were resettled in huge numbers in Middle Juba. There was also a large settlement next to the village which My family are from luuq jee-low. Imagine those same people in luuq jeelow 30 years later, claim they were in beledweyne before me .Sounds ridiculous right? As I have said awliyahan Mahamed zubeer were present but not in large numbers and in Gedo were they probably outnumbered marehan back then. As for ministers, there was a governor of Gedo who was gaaljecel I’m sure, and a colonel I believe called cabaas who was part of the USC who was running kismayo for a while.MSB AUN also I believe had some sort of agenda against us as he did not recognise some very large degmos of ours in Hiiraan officially. Xasan yacquub was also of gaaljecel ancestry. As I have stated previously, you cannot tell me for instance any tribe other than abgaal are the traditional owners of xamar. Why is that? Because the tuulos around xamar are all there’s. Sidoo kale, cida deegto the all the tuulos surrounding kismayo wala yaqaana and they do not include any daarood. As I have previously said I have no issues with Ogadens I see all somalis as brothers. But It is ridiculous to claim you are Native to a city which u are not and do not live anywhere within 68 miles of.

So you still you havent provided me with any tangible proof of Ogadens being settled in Juboyinka during the drought that happened in central somalia.

The author of the book is not even an intellectual or anthropologist.What is his background? He is somali and has no reviews in his work.
Mohamed Haji Mukhtar

He even has no sources or references for his claims that Ogaden were airlifted from central Somalia its intellectual dishonesty and lies and very biased against Darood.

HG were settled in lower shabelle few dhulbahante in lower jubba and marexan in Gedo.

The author states that Ogaden were settled in middle Jubba.Lets for a second analyse this Middle Jubba the Ogaden present have always been Cawliyahan only.So why was Bahgeri,makahiil left out because Wardheer,Shilaabo borders central regions while Afdheer cawliyahan borders Hiraan and Bakool regions of Somalia? That arguement defeats itself.There is no MZ border with central regions yet they are dorminant in lower Jubba. We are discussing 1975 right.

As i said earlier Central regions has never been an Ogaden hub even the youtube video clip,The narrator is white and showed the regions affected and the airlifting.You cant simply go to Ethiopia and airlift starving people while the entire central regions were famine striken .Ethiopia is a sovereigm state it will shoot down any somali plane that breached its airspace.

As for 1977 how come MSB never settled the refugees in Juboyinka?why settle them in refugee camps in Luq jeelo(Hiraan) and Berbera? At least this time they had crossed the border and they would have been resettled in Jubaland with their kins they would have felt home please could you explain why MSB if he settled Ogaden in 1974 drought from central regions how come he didnt in 1977? Or luq jeelo is in middle jubba or Berbera is in lower jubba too?

As for Galjecel tell me one significant battle that took place between Galjecel and the Britush.How is it possible that MZ ,Cawliyahan and even Marexan were fighting British or amongst themselves and Galjecel who you say are majority did not?
Ogaden killed the Britishs govonor in Kismaayo and we were banned from Kismaayo.Where is Galjecel during this period?Even Harti fought Ogaden in the outskirts of Kismaayo where was Galjecel ?How come if Galjecel are that significant and they were the earliest settlers have no recorded history on Jubotinka?
No MX vs Galjecel,No MZ Vs Galjecel no Cawliyahan vs Galjecel.No Abdala vs Galjecel.

The earliest conflict of Galjecel we hear is the late 90s and early 2000s when MX Vs Galjecel in Berxaani.

Bring me a standalone.conflict of Galjecel with any somali clan in juboyinka circa 1800-1900 to even 1980s.
There is non.

Today galjecel are majority in dadaab refugee camp.can we say they came before the Cawliyahan in laghdheer region?

By the way you just said colonel.cabas was Galjecel?
He is Talxa Marexan.

[Voltage]

Ilaahay ha u naxariisto. Samir and iimaan to his family.

How come I was under the impression he died a long time ago though. Didn't his son take his MP position long time ago

[Mk777]

“The Dabadheer drought of 1974-75 forced over 105,000 victims to settle the coast and interior of the riverine region. These settlements led to the creation of new regions such as the middle Juba for the Ogaden, Gedo for Marehan and Lower Jubba for Harti. Darodization was also reflected in the quest for the missing Somalia, in which successive governments paid more attention to the linearisation of the Ogaden than to that of Djibouti and the NFD. Indeed the Ogaden war caused another massive influx of refugees to be settled in the invented region”
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DPw ... es&f=false
It is a fact whether by land air or sea, Ogaden were resettled in huge numbers in Middle Juba. There was also a large settlement next to the village which My family are from luuq jee-low. Imagine those same people in luuq jeelow 30 years later, claim they were in beledweyne before me .Sounds ridiculous right? As I have said awliyahan Mahamed zubeer were present but not in large numbers and in Gedo were they probably outnumbered marehan back then. As for ministers, there was a governor of Gedo who was gaaljecel I’m sure, and a colonel I believe called cabaas who was part of the USC who was running kismayo for a while.MSB AUN also I believe had some sort of agenda against us as he did not recognise some very large degmos of ours in Hiiraan officially. Xasan yacquub was also of gaaljecel ancestry. As I have stated previously, you cannot tell me for instance any tribe other than abgaal are the traditional owners of xamar. Why is that? Because the tuulos around xamar are all there’s. Sidoo kale, cida deegto the all the tuulos surrounding kismayo wala yaqaana and they do not include any daarood. As I have previously said I have no issues with Ogadens I see all somalis as brothers. But It is ridiculous to claim you are Native to a city which u are not and do not live anywhere within 68 miles of.

So you still you havent provided me with any tangible proof of Ogadens being settled in Juboyinka during the drought that happened in central somalia.

The author of the book is not even an intellectual or anthropologist.What is his background? He is somali and has no reviews in his work.
Mohamed Haji Mukhtar

He even has no sources or references for his claims that Ogaden were airlifted from central Somalia its intellectual dishonesty and lies and very biased against Darood.

HG were settled in lower shabelle few dhulbahante in lower jubba and marexan in Gedo.

The author states that Ogaden were settled in middle Jubba.Lets for a second analyse this Middle Jubba the Ogaden present have always been Cawliyahan only.So why was Bahgeri,makahiil left out because Wardheer,Shilaabo borders central regions while Afdheer cawliyahan borders Hiraan and Bakool regions of Somalia? That arguement defeats itself.There is no MZ border with central regions yet they are dorminant in lower Jubba. We are discussing 1975 right.

As i said earlier Central regions has never been an Ogaden hub even the youtube video clip,The narrator is white and showed the regions affected and the airlifting.You cant simply go to Ethiopia and airlift starving people while the entire central regions were famine striken .Ethiopia is a sovereigm state it will shoot down any somali plane that breached its airspace.

As for 1977 how come MSB never settled the refugees in Juboyinka?why settle them in refugee camps in Luq jeelo(Hiraan) and Berbera? At least this time they had crossed the border and they would have been resettled in Jubaland with their kins they would have felt home please could you explain why MSB if he settled Ogaden in 1974 drought from central regions how come he didnt in 1977? Or luq jeelo is in middle jubba or Berbera is in lower jubba too?

As for Galjecel tell me one significant battle that took place between Galjecel and the Britush.How is it possible that MZ ,Cawliyahan and even Marexan were fighting British or amongst themselves and Galjecel who you say are majority did not?
Ogaden killed the Britishs govonor in Kismaayo and we were banned from Kismaayo.Where is Galjecel during this period?Even Harti fought Ogaden in the outskirts of Kismaayo where was Galjecel ?How come if Galjecel are that significant and they were the earliest settlers have no recorded history on Jubotinka?
No MX vs Galjecel,No MZ Vs Galjecel no Cawliyahan vs Galjecel.No Abdala vs Galjecel.

The earliest conflict of Galjecel we hear is the late 90s and early 2000s when MX Vs Galjecel in Berxaani.

Bring me a standalone.conflict of Galjecel with any somali clan in juboyinka circa 1800-1900 to even 1980s.
There is non.

Today galjecel are majority in dadaab refugee camp.can we say they came before the Cawliyahan in laghdheer region?

By the way you just said colonel.cabas was Galjecel?
He is Talxa Marexan.

there were many settlement for your people sxb not only in Hiiraan but in the Jubas. This is a fact not something I’m making up. Whether they were moved on land or not it is a fact that there were Ogaden settlements in the Jubas. Mohamed Haji Mukhtar is a Raxanweyn scholar and is therefore not biased against daarood. He is a PhD holder and a professor, do you take a cadaan gaalos word over him? As for battles, I have been living next to xawaadle for centuries. Because there is no recorded fighting before the 1990s does that erase the fact we were neighbours for centuries? I was fighting Garre for hundred or years, it is not recorded. Does that mean this did not happen ?

[Django]

“The Dabadheer drought of 1974-75 forced over 105,000 victims to settle the coast and interior of the riverine region. These settlements led to the creation of new regions such as the middle Juba for the Ogaden, Gedo for Marehan and Lower Jubba for Harti. Darodization was also reflected in the quest for the missing Somalia, in which successive governments paid more attention to the linearisation of the Ogaden than to that of Djibouti and the NFD. Indeed the Ogaden war caused another massive influx of refugees to be settled in the invented region”
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DPw ... es&f=false
It is a fact whether by land air or sea, Ogaden were resettled in huge numbers in Middle Juba. There was also a large settlement next to the village which My family are from luuq jee-low. Imagine those same people in luuq jeelow 30 years later, claim they were in beledweyne before me .Sounds ridiculous right? As I have said awliyahan Mahamed zubeer were present but not in large numbers and in Gedo were they probably outnumbered marehan back then. As for ministers, there was a governor of Gedo who was gaaljecel I’m sure, and a colonel I believe called cabaas who was part of the USC who was running kismayo for a while.MSB AUN also I believe had some sort of agenda against us as he did not recognise some very large degmos of ours in Hiiraan officially. Xasan yacquub was also of gaaljecel ancestry. As I have stated previously, you cannot tell me for instance any tribe other than abgaal are the traditional owners of xamar. Why is that? Because the tuulos around xamar are all there’s. Sidoo kale, cida deegto the all the tuulos surrounding kismayo wala yaqaana and they do not include any daarood. As I have previously said I have no issues with Ogadens I see all somalis as brothers. But It is ridiculous to claim you are Native to a city which u are not and do not live anywhere within 68 miles of.

So you still you havent provided me with any tangible proof of Ogadens being settled in Juboyinka during the drought that happened in central somalia.

The author of the book is not even an intellectual or anthropologist.What is his background? He is somali and has no reviews in his work.
Mohamed Haji Mukhtar

He even has no sources or references for his claims that Ogaden were airlifted from central Somalia its intellectual dishonesty and lies and very biased against Darood.

HG were settled in lower shabelle few dhulbahante in lower jubba and marexan in Gedo.

The author states that Ogaden were settled in middle Jubba.Lets for a second analyse this Middle Jubba the Ogaden present have always been Cawliyahan only.So why was Bahgeri,makahiil left out because Wardheer,Shilaabo borders central regions while Afdheer cawliyahan borders Hiraan and Bakool regions of Somalia? That arguement defeats itself.There is no MZ border with central regions yet they are dorminant in lower Jubba. We are discussing 1975 right.

As i said earlier Central regions has never been an Ogaden hub even the youtube video clip,The narrator is white and showed the regions affected and the airlifting.You cant simply go to Ethiopia and airlift starving people while the entire central regions were famine striken .Ethiopia is a sovereigm state it will shoot down any somali plane that breached its airspace.

As for 1977 how come MSB never settled the refugees in Juboyinka?why settle them in refugee camps in Luq jeelo(Hiraan) and Berbera? At least this time they had crossed the border and they would have been resettled in Jubaland with their kins they would have felt home please could you explain why MSB if he settled Ogaden in 1974 drought from central regions how come he didnt in 1977? Or luq jeelo is in middle jubba or Berbera is in lower jubba too?

As for Galjecel tell me one significant battle that took place between Galjecel and the Britush.How is it possible that MZ ,Cawliyahan and even Marexan were fighting British or amongst themselves and Galjecel who you say are majority did not?
Ogaden killed the Britishs govonor in Kismaayo and we were banned from Kismaayo.Where is Galjecel during this period?Even Harti fought Ogaden in the outskirts of Kismaayo where was Galjecel ?How come if Galjecel are that significant and they were the earliest settlers have no recorded history on Jubotinka?
No MX vs Galjecel,No MZ Vs Galjecel no Cawliyahan vs Galjecel.No Abdala vs Galjecel.

The earliest conflict of Galjecel we hear is the late 90s and early 2000s when MX Vs Galjecel in Berxaani.

Bring me a standalone.conflict of Galjecel with any somali clan in juboyinka circa 1800-1900 to even 1980s.
There is non.

Today galjecel are majority in dadaab refugee camp.can we say they came before the Cawliyahan in laghdheer region?

By the way you just said colonel.cabas was Galjecel?
He is Talxa Marexan.

there were many settlement for your people sxb not only in Hiiraan but in the Jubas. This is a fact not something I’m making up. Whether they were moved on land or not it is a fact that there were Ogaden settlements in the Jubas. Mohamed Haji Mukhtar is a Raxanweyn scholar and is therefore not biased against daarood. He is a PhD holder and a professor, do you take a cadaan gaalos word over him? As for battles, I have been living next to xawaadle for centuries. Because there is no recorded fighting before the 1990s does that erase the fact we were neighbours for centuries? I was fighting Garre for hundred or years, it is not recorded. Does that mean this did not happen ?

He is a professor in what? Fadhi kidirir? Where is his sources you cant right an article and have no references .
Every somali is an Engineer,professor ,doctor etc.They are well known to rape titles.
Look at his book no academic would write a book in such a way without sourcing arguements.

Warya Garreh also live in Lower shabelle.Tell me a documented source showing Galjecel fighting Ogaden,Marexan,Degodia, the British or even Harti.

The gaalos you talk about noticed us cos we resisted the British.Where is Galjecel resisting.British in Jubbaland if you folks are landeere?
Just like black hawk dawn the US in 1990s documented the fight between them and HG.So in 100 years to come No other Hawiye l would claim they fought US in Xamar even if you try to pull out lies in 50 years.
Britain ruled over Jubbaland just like they ruled over Somaliland and they accounted for tribes living in Somaliland as well as Jubbaland.


If you claim to be majority in JL in the 1900s How come no one noticed you we came kicked out Wardei Oromo and moved staight to Kismaayo and dislodged Bajun.
No Galjecel was present.


The thing is You came sneaking like mexicans and want to claim a territory that was never yours.Just like HG wanted to justify the occupation of lower shabele and its farms and the HG took over jilib farms harvesting drugs.They wanted to claim that every other clans are recent to Srttling in lower Jubba and Shabelle.

As for middle shabelle your population is significant I dont know when Galjecel came to middle shabelle.The conflict between Xawadle and Galjecel.
Somalis have oral literature sugaan,gabay,dhaanto,etc that records events like wars,harvest seasons,Famine,rains etc.

So can you show me.any oral literature that is legit?

How on earth would Galjecel.be majority in Juboyinka especially Kismaayo prior 1990s and not get noticed at all? It means either you were not a standalone clan in Juboyinka and lived with amnesty amongst the known clans present or you recently arrived in waves post civil war.

[Mk777]

So you still you havent provided me with any tangible proof of Ogadens being settled in Juboyinka during the drought that happened in central somalia.

The author of the book is not even an intellectual or anthropologist.What is his background? He is somali and has no reviews in his work.
Mohamed Haji Mukhtar

He even has no sources or references for his claims that Ogaden were airlifted from central Somalia its intellectual dishonesty and lies and very biased against Darood.

HG were settled in lower shabelle few dhulbahante in lower jubba and marexan in Gedo.

The author states that Ogaden were settled in middle Jubba.Lets for a second analyse this Middle Jubba the Ogaden present have always been Cawliyahan only.So why was Bahgeri,makahiil left out because Wardheer,Shilaabo borders central regions while Afdheer cawliyahan borders Hiraan and Bakool regions of Somalia? That arguement defeats itself.There is no MZ border with central regions yet they are dorminant in lower Jubba. We are discussing 1975 right.

As i said earlier Central regions has never been an Ogaden hub even the youtube video clip,The narrator is white and showed the regions affected and the airlifting.You cant simply go to Ethiopia and airlift starving people while the entire central regions were famine striken .Ethiopia is a sovereigm state it will shoot down any somali plane that breached its airspace.

As for 1977 how come MSB never settled the refugees in Juboyinka?why settle them in refugee camps in Luq jeelo(Hiraan) and Berbera? At least this time they had crossed the border and they would have been resettled in Jubaland with their kins they would have felt home please could you explain why MSB if he settled Ogaden in 1974 drought from central regions how come he didnt in 1977? Or luq jeelo is in middle jubba or Berbera is in lower jubba too?

As for Galjecel tell me one significant battle that took place between Galjecel and the Britush.How is it possible that MZ ,Cawliyahan and even Marexan were fighting British or amongst themselves and Galjecel who you say are majority did not?
Ogaden killed the Britishs govonor in Kismaayo and we were banned from Kismaayo.Where is Galjecel during this period?Even Harti fought Ogaden in the outskirts of Kismaayo where was Galjecel ?How come if Galjecel are that significant and they were the earliest settlers have no recorded history on Jubotinka?
No MX vs Galjecel,No MZ Vs Galjecel no Cawliyahan vs Galjecel.No Abdala vs Galjecel.

The earliest conflict of Galjecel we hear is the late 90s and early 2000s when MX Vs Galjecel in Berxaani.

Bring me a standalone.conflict of Galjecel with any somali clan in juboyinka circa 1800-1900 to even 1980s.
There is non.

Today galjecel are majority in dadaab refugee camp.can we say they came before the Cawliyahan in laghdheer region?

By the way you just said colonel.cabas was Galjecel?
He is Talxa Marexan.

there were many settlement for your people sxb not only in Hiiraan but in the Jubas. This is a fact not something I’m making up. Whether they were moved on land or not it is a fact that there were Ogaden settlements in the Jubas. Mohamed Haji Mukhtar is a Raxanweyn scholar and is therefore not biased against daarood. He is a PhD holder and a professor, do you take a cadaan gaalos word over him? As for battles, I have been living next to xawaadle for centuries. Because there is no recorded fighting before the 1990s does that erase the fact we were neighbours for centuries? I was fighting Garre for hundred or years, it is not recorded. Does that mean this did not happen ?

He is a professor in what? Fadhi kidirir? Where is his sources you cant right an article and have no references .
Every somali is an Engineer,professor ,doctor etc.They are well known to rape titles.
Look at his book no academic would write a book in such a way without sourcing arguements.

Warya Garreh also live in Lower shabelle.Tell me a documented source showing Galjecel fighting Ogaden,Marexan,Degodia, the British or even Harti.

The gaalos you talk about noticed us cos we resisted the British.Where is Galjecel resisting.British in Jubbaland if you folks are landeere?
Just like black hawk dawn the US in 1990s documented the fight between them and HG.So in 100 years to come No other Hawiye l would claim they fought US in Xamar even if you try to pull out lies in 50 years.
Britain ruled over Jubbaland just like they ruled over Somaliland and they accounted for tribes living in Somaliland as well as Jubbaland.


If you claim to be majority in JL in the 1900s How come no one noticed you we came kicked out Wardei Oromo and moved staight to Kismaayo and dislodged Bajun.
No Galjecel was present.


The thing is You came sneaking like mexicans and want to claim a territory that was never yours.Just like HG wanted to justify the occupation of lower shabele and its farms and the HG took over jilib farms harvesting drugs.They wanted to claim that every other clans are recent to Srttling in lower Jubba and Shabelle.

As for middle shabelle your population is significant I dont know when Galjecel came to middle shabelle.The conflict between Xawadle and Galjecel.
Somalis have oral literature sugaan,gabay,dhaanto,etc that records events like wars,harvest seasons,Famine,rains etc.

So can you show me.any oral literature that is legit?

How on earth would Galjecel.be majority in Juboyinka especially Kismaayo prior 1990s and not get noticed at all? It means either you were not a standalone clan in Juboyinka and lived with amnesty amongst the known clans present or you recently arrived in waves post civil war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Haji_Mukhtar
He is a respected scholar who teaches at Savannah university Georgia. Who told you colonel Abbas is bah talxa? He is a known galjeel leader who was part of the USC. Anyways if you guys are native to kismayo please tell me one tuulo just one in a 60 mile radius of kismayo that belongs to ogaden. What notable resistance did any Ogaden lead in Jubaland, not the NFD. What resistance did u lead in the borders of Somalia? The biimaal led the only notable revolt in Jubaland that is the section that is part of Somalia now. I led a resistance in the Middle Shabelle. What resistance did you lead in the borders of Somalia? How can I be an immigrant when my tuulos are right outside kismayo. Is my nearest tuulo in afmadow or right on the outskirts of the city kismayo itself?? Anyways,it is up to the people that our native to the region to wake up themselves. If not they will be colonised. It is not caqli for this doqondiid, macaawiya,Axmad Adan lafs for 90% of them to be following geel around in 2019. As otherwise an immigrant from cabudwaaq and dhegaxbuur will claim they were native to the land before you. It is up to them to wake up or be second class citizens in their land.

[original dervish]

Why aren't the local Gaaljecel as concerned as you?
Surely if what you say is true....there would armed resistance by now.

[Mk777]

Why aren't the local Gaaljecel as concerned as you?
Surely if what you say is true....there would armed resistance by now.

This is a mashruc that has been planned for years. To use foreign muscle to gain a foothold in the region. And then Annex it.Madobe would not last a day in kismayo without the KDF that is a fact.

[MajorIgaare]

Why aren't the local Gaaljecel as concerned as you?
Surely if what you say is true....there would armed resistance by now.

This is a mashruc that has been planned for years. To use foreign muscle to gain a foothold in the region. And then Annex it.Madobe would not last a day in kismayo without the KDF that is a fact.

Bro your wasting your breath. Darood see you as nothing more than a serf and will never allow equitable distribution of power based on population as the only place they'll rule is puntland. Darood are not willing to have anyone other than them lead. Remember how darood used to protest in front of embassies because of HSM and how they beat his pictures with shoes in puntland. Ogaden came out with the without kdf we are finished signs. HSM said no fed states in the south and they invaded the South with Kenya via there daroods in Kenyan government.

Darood are trying to create a new Somalia were political power is divided in quotas like how it is now and no one man one vote as that's dangerous to them. Even though puntland is stable they have no elections. You as a gaaljecel even talking about your rights is seen as an act of aggression by darood and they would stop at nothing short of complete extermination to confront that threat. Ahmed madoobe and whatever darood they bring after him is a madax weyne but you are a mooryaan. When hawiye collect tax its called isbaaro.

Hawiye don't even realise but you are subject to political smearing on a daily basis. Even the average non political hawiye probably things N&N are doing a great job because instead of the propoganda onslaught from darood they've turned to fake news guulwade.

Sometimes I think hawiye must carry a genetic retardation or maybe they're ok with a darood monarchy.

[qoraxeey]

So he was a moryaan warlord? Ilahaay baa la xisaabtami.
Ilahaay unc iyo moryanta taagersan aduun iyo aakhiraba ha ku cadaabo.

Smile, u sheg ina adeerey

This warlord killed many innocent darood people even after Caydiid died.

Good thing us marexan was smart enough to leave on time, only naive daroods stayed behind & really believed hutu moryan could rule a whole Somalia

I heard Farmaajo will go to his funeral its below him, but I guess he have to go since his wife is hawiyo

[Django]

there were many settlement for your people sxb not only in Hiiraan but in the Jubas. This is a fact not something I’m making up. Whether they were moved on land or not it is a fact that there were Ogaden settlements in the Jubas. Mohamed Haji Mukhtar is a Raxanweyn scholar and is therefore not biased against daarood. He is a PhD holder and a professor, do you take a cadaan gaalos word over him? As for battles, I have been living next to xawaadle for centuries. Because there is no recorded fighting before the 1990s does that erase the fact we were neighbours for centuries? I was fighting Garre for hundred or years, it is not recorded. Does that mean this did not happen ?

He is a professor in what? Fadhi kidirir? Where is his sources you cant right an article and have no references .
Every somali is an Engineer,professor ,doctor etc.They are well known to rape titles.
Look at his book no academic would write a book in such a way without sourcing arguements.

Warya Garreh also live in Lower shabelle.Tell me a documented source showing Galjecel fighting Ogaden,Marexan,Degodia, the British or even Harti.

The gaalos you talk about noticed us cos we resisted the British.Where is Galjecel resisting.British in Jubbaland if you folks are landeere?
Just like black hawk dawn the US in 1990s documented the fight between them and HG.So in 100 years to come No other Hawiye l would claim they fought US in Xamar even if you try to pull out lies in 50 years.
Britain ruled over Jubbaland just like they ruled over Somaliland and they accounted for tribes living in Somaliland as well as Jubbaland.


If you claim to be majority in JL in the 1900s How come no one noticed you we came kicked out Wardei Oromo and moved staight to Kismaayo and dislodged Bajun.
No Galjecel was present.


The thing is You came sneaking like mexicans and want to claim a territory that was never yours.Just like HG wanted to justify the occupation of lower shabele and its farms and the HG took over jilib farms harvesting drugs.They wanted to claim that every other clans are recent to Srttling in lower Jubba and Shabelle.

As for middle shabelle your population is significant I dont know when Galjecel came to middle shabelle.The conflict between Xawadle and Galjecel.
Somalis have oral literature sugaan,gabay,dhaanto,etc that records events like wars,harvest seasons,Famine,rains etc.

So can you show me.any oral literature that is legit?

How on earth would Galjecel.be majority in Juboyinka especially Kismaayo prior 1990s and not get noticed at all? It means either you were not a standalone clan in Juboyinka and lived with amnesty amongst the known clans present or you recently arrived in waves post civil war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Haji_Mukhtar
He is a respected scholar who teaches at Savannah university Georgia. Who told you colonel Abbas is bah talxa? He is a known galjeel leader who was part of the USC. Anyways if you guys are native to kismayo please tell me one tuulo just one in a 60 mile radius of kismayo that belongs to ogaden. What notable resistance did any Ogaden lead in Jubaland, not the NFD. What resistance did u lead in the borders of Somalia? The biimaal led the only notable revolt in Jubaland that is the section that is part of Somalia now. I led a resistance in the Middle Shabelle. What resistance did you lead in the borders of Somalia? How can I be an immigrant when my tuulos are right outside kismayo. Is my nearest tuulo in afmadow or right on the outskirts of the city kismayo itself?? Anyways,it is up to the people that our native to the region to wake up themselves. If not they will be colonised. It is not caqli for this doqondiid, macaawiya,Axmad Adan lafs for 90% of them to be following geel around in 2019. As otherwise an immigrant from cabudwaaq and dhegaxbuur will claim they were native to the land before you. It is up to them to wake up or be second class citizens in their land.

Respected scholar in what field?because all I see is a poorly written and sourced book.When you claim something you back it up with either primary source or secondary source you just dont write something without reference its either plagiarism or hearsay.

As for Galjecel you still havent prooved any thing tangible about the resistance against the British nor any significant skirmish between the clans that reside inJubbaland.Hence what you keep regurgitating is just hearsey.

The jubboyinka especially lower Jubba is not suitable for rearing camel that is why MZ had cattle.Galjecel only have geel in middle shabelle and the main economic activity of galjecel is burning charcoal from the forest between Kismaayo and Afmadow which has been reduced to a desert.
Your tuulos are basically for baking charcoal.

Also there was no Galjecel USC in Jubbaland it would be laughable.Do you think that Darood forget about Ogaden regrouping themselves in Kismaayo would have allowed you to survive as Galjecel USC after alot of them lost loved one in Xamar?

Caydid was alied to MZ and not Galjecel in Jubbaland.So please dont try making yourself relevant when infact you were just irrelevant.

Even when Ceyr came to Kismaayo with cumar jees,Xaji qoraxey and bare hiraale where was galjecel?
How come you were not even part of JVA while youbclaim to be majority and HG did not even consider you folks as a reliable ally.Why do you think they chose Marexan over you folks?

The thing is Galjecel are irrelevant dont try to squeeze into history like dhuuso.Please dont beat your chest on me claimming you will deal with me when Kenya leaves because I know and you know your threats are bolox.Just trying to make yourself relevant in a situation you are hardly relevant.

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Sxb how do you expect me to take you seriously when your claiming that Jubaland is not suitable for raising camels ? The USC used your folks against there fellow daaroods and were then disposed of. The galjeel militia was allied to the USC that’s a fact. If there was not a significant non daarood population in the region, USC Would not be able to take over. Would USC be able to takeover bosaso? No because there is no significant non Daarood population within hundred of miles. Anyways the Jubaland Sheeko is clear. It will either be split or will be a fair representative state. As I have stated earlier this is a plan that has been thought of by your people for many years.To immigrate from the Northern wastelands and invade and colonise the south.Great strategy tbh. You wouldn’t hesitate or think twice about using foreign force against your Somali brother who welcomed you with open arms evidenced by abdulahi YUsuf and Madobe. Anyways the Jubaland tale is far from over. Either the locals use their brains and wake up or be forever under occupation.

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Why aren't the local Gaaljecel as concerned as you?
Surely if what you say is true....there would armed resistance by now.

This is a mashruc that has been planned for years. To use foreign muscle to gain a foothold in the region. And then Annex it.Madobe would not last a day in kismayo without the KDF that is a fact.

Bro your wasting your breath. Darood see you as nothing more than a serf and will never allow equitable distribution of power based on population as the only place they'll rule is puntland. Darood are not willing to have anyone other than them lead. Remember how darood used to protest in front of embassies because of HSM and how they beat his pictures with shoes in puntland. Ogaden came out with the without kdf we are finished signs. HSM said no fed states in the south and they invaded the South with Kenya via there daroods in Kenyan government.

Darood are trying to create a new Somalia were political power is divided in quotas like how it is now and no one man one vote as that's dangerous to them. Even though puntland is stable they have no elections. You as a gaaljecel even talking about your rights is seen as an act of aggression by darood and they would stop at nothing short of complete extermination to confront that threat. Ahmed madoobe and whatever darood they bring after him is a madax weyne but you are a mooryaan. When hawiye collect tax its called isbaaro.

Hawiye don't even realise but you are subject to political smearing on a daily basis. Even the average non political hawiye probably things N&N are doing a great job because instead of the propoganda onslaught from darood they've turned to fake news guulwade.

Sometimes I think hawiye must carry a genetic retardation or maybe they're ok with a darood monarchy.

Yes sxb they want to annex and create a south Puntland. It is a genius strategy tbh. They are arriving from cabudwaaq and laascanood every day. And then the plan is To create an apartheid like state in the south. But waxaas uma shaqeeyneyso. It is called political retardation sxb. For instance, the locals should use there Degodia next door neighbours in the NFD or their hadamo cousins in the south west State. The hadamo raxanweyn are directly related to the gaaljecel of the jubas.