Kismaayo officially changing from Kenyan To Ethiopian Control

[sahal80]

The only way for Kenya to evacuate is once they cut the funding from its amisom as this Gov asked for from the EU but they cuttted only half. They done this because of the maritime dispute but if things escalate into a military confrontation than they may reconsider this half. JL is important for Kenya in this time as pressure card so they won't give up on madobe until a maritime settlement was reached and even if Kenya loses this case they still need Somali allies. There are two theories that can happen if Kenya loses the case; kenya pulling out and letting al Shabaab in meantime occupy the Somali shores, Kenya backing JL and doing some thing about another region so expecting this it must back madobe reelection. In the first scenario madoobe and his troops are likely to regroup in afmadoow and the border area.

Another scenario is ethiopian amisom and Kenya and Somali govt agreeing on new face and madobe resignation but this is unlikely bc Kenya will not accept another lafta gareen for jubbaland. Lastly, diplomatically it won't be easy to interfere JL that has local allies like PL and foreign connections like Kenya. For Ethiopia, Somali govt uses Ahmed shiddo who works on weaking OG interests. This guy backs Ethiopia having another region with "special relationship" he's the new gebro.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.busi ... index.html

http://www.dhacdo.net/axmed-madoobe-oo- ... ekh-aadan/



https://newsomali.org/2019/06/30/farmaa ... ar-keenay/

[Django]

The only way for Kenya to evacuate is once they cut the funding from its amisom as this Gov asked for from the EU but they cuttted only half. They done this because of the maritime dispute but if things escalate into a military confrontation than they may reconsider this half. JL is important for Kenya in this time as pressure card so they won't give up on madobe until a maritime settlement was reached and even if Kenya loses this case they still need Somali allies. There are two theories that can happen if Kenya loses the case; kenya pulling out and letting al Shabaab in meantime occupy the Somali shores, Kenya backing JL and doing some thing about another region so expecting this it must back madobe reelection. In the first scenario madoobe and his troops are likely to regroup in afmadoow and the border area.

Another scenario is ethiopian amisom and Kenya and Somali govt agreeing on new face and madobe resignation but this is unlikely bc Kenya will not accept another lafta gareen for jubbaland. Lastly, diplomatically it won't be easy to interfere JL that has local allies like PL and foreign connections like Kenya. For Ethiopia, Somali govt uses Ahmed shiddo who works on weaking OG interests. This guy backs Ethiopia having another region with "special relationship" he's the new gebro.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.busi ... index.html

http://www.dhacdo.net/axmed-madoobe-oo- ... ekh-aadan/

Saxib you are marti on JL issue just be a good listener.You know nothing about the Ogaden and Ethiopia relations nor the Kenyan involvement in JL.

Dhacdo is a marexan site and is biased.Axmed will school marexan in the art of politics.

[Django]

There's definitely something brewing in Jubbaland. Ahmed might have military strength. But he lost Cawlyahan who signed a pact with Reer Diini. Plus, all the MX politicians and Isimos met last night. Madobe lost the support of the international community. Interesting times ahead.

Saxib stop your pathological lies.
The only Cawliyahan he lost is the canadian one Omaar who is a minister.

There is no support he lost against International commnunity the UN said the govt should not interfere/ meddle with Federal statea elections.
You have a govt that is incompetent and cannot guarantee the security of its citizens in Xamar.

Yet we see the same govt drinking wine and preaching water.They havent fought against AS in 3 years and its security aparatua has been compromised.The mayor is fighting for his life as we speak.

Then in Kismaayo on an election time they start supporting oposition and give them money to bribe the mps and elders to get elected as President of JL before that they pay off AS to attack hotel Cascasey which scores of people died mostly Cawliyahan and Makahil.Then the govt directly blame it on Madhoobe while we know who would have gained most from this.The govt wanted to frame Madhoobe so that Cawliyahan broke ranks with Madhoobe and this make Marexan allied to Cawliyahan lije in the 90s Jess Vs Gabiyow.But it backfired.
So they bribed the leader of the Ethiopian AMISOM and wanted him to give orders to KDF and capture Kismaayo airport and arrest Madhoobe which KDF turned down.Then the Ethiopian wanted to use numbers but they were outnumbered by madhoobes men.

Ethiopian soilders are not willing to die for Marexan.For Ethiopian soilders to fight Madhoobe they need Marexan molitia to be in the front line so that for every 100 marexan soilders killed one Ethiopian soilder can lose his life.But are marexan willing to die?Not in a million years because life is too sweet.Only those on Snet have the courage to die in cyber.

The INternational community knows that Qaraxmajo is AS sympathiser not only after Kismaayo incident but also after the two bombs exploding in Xamar recently where the mayor was almost killed by explosion because he wanted Benadir state to be created and people of benadir to elect their own leader who will be accountable for the revenue colected in Xamar.Which seems like it has become pocket money as well as source of bribery across the country also the mayor is gagged as he is elected by the sitting president.

Madhoobe will just seek friendhsip with UAE and KSA to countrr qatar blood.money.

Qaraxmajo has bribed key contestants in the JL election.Omaar wanted to bring loads of cash from Xamar and bribe the mps and Odeyaal yet at the same time the govt wants a free and fair elections in JL.
Axmed Madhoobe is comming back and the qaraxmajo regime has no mandate to cry fouk because their hands are dirty.

Saxib that is how statements are made and you have interpreted it according to your wish.As for terrorism there is more blasts in Xamar that the incompetent xamar regime has not addressed.While a free and fair elections in JL also means that no bribe money from Xamar or Ethiopians to be used to muscle for dominance.Xamar and Kismaayo need to cooperate and it doeant mean Xamar should dictate to Kismaayo on federal state matters.
Madhoobe will school you in all fields.Just wait and see this is not Konfur galbeed where you had one candidate while you arrested the other.Madhoobe is not Abu Mansur or Iley.Are Marexan willing to sacrifce and die in numbers or are waiting for Ethiopians to die in their cause or think madhoobe will just capitulate feom orders given by Ethiopians.

[Django]

There's definitely something brewing in Jubbaland. Ahmed might have military strength. But he lost Cawlyahan who signed a pact with Reer Diini. Plus, all the MX politicians and Isimos met last night. Madobe lost the support of the international community. Interesting times ahead.

Saxib stop your pathological lies.
The only Cawliyahan he lost is the canadian one Omaar who is a minister.

There is no support he lost against International commnunity the UN said the govt should not interfere/ meddle with Federal statea elections.
You have a govt that is incompetent and cannot guarantee the security of its citizens in Xamar.

Yet we see the same govt drinking wine and preaching water.They havent fought against AS in 3 years and its security aparatua has been compromised.The mayor is fighting for his life as we speak.

Then in Kismaayo on an election time they start supporting oposition and give them money to bribe the mps and elders to get elected as President of JL before that they pay off AS to attack hotel Cascasey which scores of people died mostly Cawliyahan and Makahil.Then the govt directly blame it on Madhoobe while we know who would have gained most from this.The govt wanted to frame Madhoobe so that Cawliyahan broke ranks with Madhoobe and this make Marexan allied to Cawliyahan lije in the 90s Jess Vs Gabiyow.But it backfired.
So they bribed the leader of the Ethiopian AMISOM and wanted him to give orders to KDF and capture Kismaayo airport and arrest Madhoobe which KDF turned down.Then the Ethiopian wanted to use numbers but they were outnumbered by madhoobes men.

Ethiopian soilders are not willing to die for Marexan.For Ethiopian soilders to fight Madhoobe they need Marexan molitia to be in the front line so that for every 100 marexan soilders killed one Ethiopian soilder can lose his life.But are marexan willing to die?Not in a million years because life is too sweet.Only those on Snet have the courage to die in cyber.

The INternational community knows that Qaraxmajo is AS sympathiser not only after Kismaayo incident but also after the two bombs exploding in Xamar recently where the mayor was almost killed by explosion because he wanted Benadir state to be created and people of benadir to elect their own leader who will be accountable for the revenue colected in Xamar.Which seems like it has become pocket money as well as source of bribery across the country also the mayor is gagged as he is elected by the sitting president.

Madhoobe will just seek friendhsip with UAE and KSA to countrr qatar blood.money.

Qaraxmajo has bribed key contestants in the JL election.Omaar wanted to bring loads of cash from Xamar and bribe the mps and Odeyaal yet at the same time the govt wants a free and fair elections in JL.
Axmed Madhoobe is comming back and the qaraxmajo regime has no mandate to cry fouk because their hands are dirty.

Saxib that is how statements are made and you have interpreted it according to your wish.As for terrorism there is more blasts in Xamar that the incompetent xamar regime has not addressed.While a free and fair elections in JL also means that no bribe money from Xamar or Ethiopians to be used to muscle for dominance.Xamar and Kismaayo need to cooperate and it doeant mean Xamar should dictate to Kismaayo on federal state matters.
Madhoobe will school you in all fields.Just wait and see this is not Konfur galbeed where you had one candidate while you arrested the other.Madhoobe is not Abu Mansur or Iley.Are Marexan willing to sacrifce and die in numbers or are waiting for Ethiopians to die in their cause or think madhoobe will just capitulate feom orders given by Ethiopians.

[Caytame]

If I were an amxaar I would rather support ogaaden than mareexan . Because one is a citizen of mine and the other is a foreign zoomalian who has no big stake in kilil 5. At the other hand if were a kikuyu I would still support the cagdheer because mareexan are nothing in Kenya. Laa yukalifulahu nafsan illaa maa uscaahaa. Waa run ilaahay ogaaden ka shisheeye buu hoosgeey laakiin sometimes in ilaahay shisheeyaha wax kuugu darro bay guushadu ku jirtaa. Arintu haday ku xidhan tahay fadliga Kenya iyo Ethiopia way iska cadahay ciday garabka siinayan.. hadii se ay somali dhexdeeda noqoto waa nin iyo taagtii iyo tamartii .

The Ethiopians will not, because they fear it could potentially be a place where OGs will someday wield enough power to cause them problems.

in 2007, they did the same thing, in support of marehan.



Ethiopia wont allow ogaden to have any influence in Somalia, but it doesnt matter, we will get what is ours, by any means necessary.

You know nothing about politics. At that time madoobe was an islamist , and 99% of Ogs were ONLF . I would do the same , because Ogs were very anti Ethiopia. Things changed ONLF is an Ethiopian political party today, and Ahmed Islam is no longer islaam

Ethiopia still sees enemy in ogaden since onlf wants to declare independence, that's their goal.

Also Ethiopia seed a friend in farmaajo, who knows what kind of deals they are getting under the table since they have already attacked galmudug for him when his clan was losing a war to sacad. They also rigged south west state elections for him, meaning they have got a deal in place, what does Ethiopia gain from madoobe?

Nothing.

[Caytame]

If I were an amxaar I would rather support ogaaden than mareexan . Because one is a citizen of mine and the other is a foreign zoomalian who has no big stake in kilil 5. At the other hand if were a kikuyu I would still support the cagdheer because mareexan are nothing in Kenya. Laa yukalifulahu nafsan illaa maa uscaahaa. Waa run ilaahay ogaaden ka shisheeye buu hoosgeey laakiin sometimes in ilaahay shisheeyaha wax kuugu darro bay guushadu ku jirtaa. Arintu haday ku xidhan tahay fadliga Kenya iyo Ethiopia way iska cadahay ciday garabka siinayan.. hadii se ay somali dhexdeeda noqoto waa nin iyo taagtii iyo tamartii .

The Ethiopians will not, because they fear it could potentially be a place where OGs will someday wield enough power to cause them problems.

in 2007, they did the same thing, in support of marehan.



Ethiopia wont allow ogaden to have any influence in Somalia, but it doesnt matter, we will get what is ours, by any means necessary.

In sha Allah.

These boons are repeating the same lies of the past, hoping this time it will come true, and things will go in their favor.

Meesha cida leh baa u hadhi.

We got rid of them when Ethiopia left them alone in 2007, we can do it again.

A full scale genocide is on the horizon, since it is the only thing they respect, as evidenced by their complete capitulation in galgaduud.

Madoobe has been too kind on them if you ask me, and today he is regretting it probably.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Saxib stop your pathological lies.
The only Cawliyahan he lost is the canadian one Omaar who is a minister.

There is no support he lost against International commnunity the UN said the govt should not interfere/ meddle with Federal statea elections.
You have a govt that is incompetent and cannot guarantee the security of its citizens in Xamar.

Yet we see the same govt drinking wine and preaching water.They havent fought against AS in 3 years and its security aparatua has been compromised.The mayor is fighting for his life as we speak.

Then in Kismaayo on an election time they start supporting oposition and give them money to bribe the mps and elders to get elected as President of JL before that they pay off AS to attack hotel Cascasey which scores of people died mostly Cawliyahan and Makahil.Then the govt directly blame it on Madhoobe while we know who would have gained most from this.The govt wanted to frame Madhoobe so that Cawliyahan broke ranks with Madhoobe and this make Marexan allied to Cawliyahan lije in the 90s Jess Vs Gabiyow.But it backfired.
So they bribed the leader of the Ethiopian AMISOM and wanted him to give orders to KDF and capture Kismaayo airport and arrest Madhoobe which KDF turned down.Then the Ethiopian wanted to use numbers but they were outnumbered by madhoobes men.

Ethiopian soilders are not willing to die for Marexan.For Ethiopian soilders to fight Madhoobe they need Marexan molitia to be in the front line so that for every 100 marexan soilders killed one Ethiopian soilder can lose his life.But are marexan willing to die?Not in a million years because life is too sweet.Only those on Snet have the courage to die in cyber.

The INternational community knows that Qaraxmajo is AS sympathiser not only after Kismaayo incident but also after the two bombs exploding in Xamar recently where the mayor was almost killed by explosion because he wanted Benadir state to be created and people of benadir to elect their own leader who will be accountable for the revenue colected in Xamar.Which seems like it has become pocket money as well as source of bribery across the country also the mayor is gagged as he is elected by the sitting president.

Madhoobe will just seek friendhsip with UAE and KSA to countrr qatar blood.money.

Qaraxmajo has bribed key contestants in the JL election.Omaar wanted to bring loads of cash from Xamar and bribe the mps and Odeyaal yet at the same time the govt wants a free and fair elections in JL.
Axmed Madhoobe is comming back and the qaraxmajo regime has no mandate to cry fouk because their hands are dirty.

Saxib that is how statements are made and you have interpreted it according to your wish.As for terrorism there is more blasts in Xamar that the incompetent xamar regime has not addressed.While a free and fair elections in JL also means that no bribe money from Xamar or Ethiopians to be used to muscle for dominance.Xamar and Kismaayo need to cooperate and it doeant mean Xamar should dictate to Kismaayo on federal state matters.
Madhoobe will school you in all fields.Just wait and see this is not Konfur galbeed where you had one candidate while you arrested the other.Madhoobe is not Abu Mansur or Iley.Are Marexan willing to sacrifce and die in numbers or are waiting for Ethiopians to die in their cause or think madhoobe will just capitulate feom orders given by Ethiopians.

We'll see. Xog is saying different. You'll see Ina adeer. In due time. HAG has been tamed so will Ilmo Yeey.

[Voltage]

Good. Next the Ethiopians should put the terrorist Ahmed Madoobe in handcuffs and send him on a plane to Mogadishu like they did Abu Mansur in Baidoa.

[Django]

Saxib that is how statements are made and you have interpreted it according to your wish.As for terrorism there is more blasts in Xamar that the incompetent xamar regime has not addressed.While a free and fair elections in JL also means that no bribe money from Xamar or Ethiopians to be used to muscle for dominance.Xamar and Kismaayo need to cooperate and it doeant mean Xamar should dictate to Kismaayo on federal state matters.
Madhoobe will school you in all fields.Just wait and see this is not Konfur galbeed where you had one candidate while you arrested the other.Madhoobe is not Abu Mansur or Iley.Are Marexan willing to sacrifce and die in numbers or are waiting for Ethiopians to die in their cause or think madhoobe will just capitulate feom orders given by Ethiopians.

We'll see. Xog is saying different. You'll see Ina adeer. In due time. HAG has been tamed so will Ilmo Yeey.

HAG rule you and Xamar.They kill govt minsisters and you cant touch them.You couldnt do shit to old retired Muse Sude Yalaxow.
So please stop with thr booto especialy threatening to use Ethiopia you did that one time and it never worked at least that time you had muscle but now there is no muscle.
Do you remember you promised us months ago that you will capture Buale and make the elections there what happened?

[Django]

Good. Next the Ethiopians should put the terrorist Ahmed Madoobe in handcuffs and send him on a plane to Mogadishu like they did Abu Mansur in Baidoa.

Voltage welcome back my old brother we need your predictions like those in the days you were spot on you remember.

[Voltage]

The only way for Kenya to evacuate is once they cut the funding from its amisom as this Gov asked for from the EU but they cuttted only half. They done this because of the maritime dispute but if things escalate into a military confrontation than they may reconsider this half. JL is important for Kenya in this time as pressure card so they won't give up on madobe until a maritime settlement was reached and even if Kenya loses this case they still need Somali allies. There are two theories that can happen if Kenya loses the case; kenya pulling out and letting al Shabaab in meantime occupy the Somali shores, Kenya backing JL and doing some thing about another region so expecting this it must back madobe reelection. In the first scenario madoobe and his troops are likely to regroup in afmadoow and the border area.

Another scenario is ethiopian amisom and Kenya and Somali govt agreeing on new face and madobe resignation but this is unlikely bc Kenya will not accept another lafta gareen for jubbaland. Lastly, diplomatically it won't be easy to interfere JL that has local allies like PL and foreign connections like Kenya. For Ethiopia, Somali govt uses Ahmed shiddo who works on weaking OG interests. This guy backs Ethiopia having another region with "special relationship" he's the new gebro.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.busi ... index.html

http://www.dhacdo.net/axmed-madoobe-oo- ... ekh-aadan/



https://newsomali.org/2019/06/30/farmaa ... ar-keenay/

Look at this coffee shop talk based on Irirism about some Dir paper pusher becoming the "new Gebre."

Gabre was a hard core military man who was a Tigray in a Tigray government personally trained by Meles Zenewi to be his spy and eyes and ears in Somalia with infinite resources at his disposal to sow discord among Somali tribes.

Likening some soft Dir civil servant in an already unstable Ethiopian government to Gebre to achieve Iririst aims in Somalia using Ethiopia has got to be the most delusional anti-Darod obsession I have ever seen.

I am completely against Ahmed Madoobe and want the Ethiopians in Kismaayo to detain him and send him on a plane in handcuffs right now.

But aint no Gebre wannabe Irrist minded nobody in Addis Ababa helping me!

[sahal80]

The only way for Kenya to evacuate is once they cut the funding from its amisom as this Gov asked for from the EU but they cuttted only half. They done this because of the maritime dispute but if things escalate into a military confrontation than they may reconsider this half. JL is important for Kenya in this time as pressure card so they won't give up on madobe until a maritime settlement was reached and even if Kenya loses this case they still need Somali allies. There are two theories that can happen if Kenya loses the case; kenya pulling out and letting al Shabaab in meantime occupy the Somali shores, Kenya backing JL and doing some thing about another region so expecting this it must back madobe reelection. In the first scenario madoobe and his troops are likely to regroup in afmadoow and the border area.

Another scenario is ethiopian amisom and Kenya and Somali govt agreeing on new face and madobe resignation but this is unlikely bc Kenya will not accept another lafta gareen for jubbaland. Lastly, diplomatically it won't be easy to interfere JL that has local allies like PL and foreign connections like Kenya. For Ethiopia, Somali govt uses Ahmed shiddo who works on weaking OG interests. This guy backs Ethiopia having another region with "special relationship" he's the new gebro.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.busi ... index.html

http://www.dhacdo.net/axmed-madoobe-oo- ... ekh-aadan/

Saxib you are marti on JL issue just be a good listener.You know nothing about the Ogaden and Ethiopia relations nor the Kenyan involvement in JL.

Dhacdo is a marexan site and is biased.Axmed will school marexan in the art of politics.

ok sxb I may no know the region but I'm insider who hears general news. I post the links to support my theory not to quote from them. this Govt has alot of cards the former govt didn't had the first is farmaajo and madoobe hail from the same clan this has stopped that xamar clan is invading the clans of kismaayo like Hassan sh time. The second thing is Ethiopia who changed and the new oromo wants a navy base for this reason they wanna use the official door in exchange of madoobe and sorting out the issue by wadahadal. On the other hand Kenya is sticking with the current admin until such settlement is reached. Can N&N dare to stop dacwada? This is the only way they can do some thing about madoobe.

[sahal80]

The only way for Kenya to evacuate is once they cut the funding from its amisom as this Gov asked for from the EU but they cuttted only half. They done this because of the maritime dispute but if things escalate into a military confrontation than they may reconsider this half. JL is important for Kenya in this time as pressure card so they won't give up on madobe until a maritime settlement was reached and even if Kenya loses this case they still need Somali allies. There are two theories that can happen if Kenya loses the case; kenya pulling out and letting al Shabaab in meantime occupy the Somali shores, Kenya backing JL and doing some thing about another region so expecting this it must back madobe reelection. In the first scenario madoobe and his troops are likely to regroup in afmadoow and the border area.

Another scenario is ethiopian amisom and Kenya and Somali govt agreeing on new face and madobe resignation but this is unlikely bc Kenya will not accept another lafta gareen for jubbaland. Lastly, diplomatically it won't be easy to interfere JL that has local allies like PL and foreign connections like Kenya. For Ethiopia, Somali govt uses Ahmed shiddo who works on weaking OG interests. This guy backs Ethiopia having another region with "special relationship" he's the new gebro.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.busi ... index.html

http://www.dhacdo.net/axmed-madoobe-oo- ... ekh-aadan/



https://newsomali.org/2019/06/30/farmaa ... ar-keenay/

Look at this coffee shop talk based on Irirism about some Dir paper pusher becoming the "new Gebre."

Gabre was a hard core military man who was a Tigray in a Tigray government personally trained by Meles Zenewi to be his spy and eyes and ears in Somalia with infinite resources at his disposal to sow discord among Somali tribes.

Likening some soft Dir civil servant in an already unstable Ethiopian government to Gebre to achieve Iririst aims in Somalia using Ethiopia has got to be the most delusional anti-Darod obsession I have ever seen.

I am completely against Ahmed Madoobe and want the Ethiopians in Kismaayo to detain him and send him on a plane in handcuffs right now.

But aint no Gebre wannabe Irrist minded nobody in Addis Ababa helping me!

lol voltage Ethiopian generals have gone the new face of Ethiopia is the Somali region wich has changed; the federal minister is dir, party chairman is dir and the speaker is dir. Central committee darod 5(All absame) dir 5(including one isaaq and one isse) This has weakened the OG influence on Somalia and especially JL through the Somali region. It's a fact Farmaajo met shiddo and heard they concentrated on JL and Kenya though he visited to partake the national day. Why they didn't send cagajiir instead of him? Btw I dont believe iririm I only talked about it historically today's Dir and us are not in good terms but you can say we are one of those who benefited from the change in Ethiopia atleast we are no more targeted by the liyu police.

[Voltage]

Good. Next the Ethiopians should put the terrorist Ahmed Madoobe in handcuffs and send him on a plane to Mogadishu like they did Abu Mansur in Baidoa.

Voltage welcome back my old brother we need your predictions like those in the days you were spot on you remember.

Django why do you like Madoobe to get a 2nd term? He has done nothing!

He is also a complete reer baadiye. I have an extended relative who is part of the USAID mission to Somalia. He said Jubbaland is the biggest target of the US interest in Somalia outside of Mogadishu and USAID s always looking out for the chance to step in.

The first time the mission met Madoobe as Pres of Jubbaland, he was asked for his email to receive more details of some plans the mission had for Kismaayo. This dude looks around dumbfounded and says "war emailkee sheegayaan yaa heysto?"

That's who should be taking Jubbaland to the next level?

Wallahi I do not care about the tribe of the Leader. I actually think it would be completely unfair for a Marehan to get Jubbaland Pres while Somali Pres. Look at Hirshabeele which Abgaal share with Hawadle. No disrespect to Hawadle, but they can't hold a candle to Abgal. If Abgaal didn't have Somali Presidency then, who thinks Hawadle would have assumed Hirshabelle leadership with Abgaal present?

I don't care about the clan of the leader, but Madoobe needs to go. Fartaag is running and he is a Marehan and a reer Diini and a bah-Xawaadle just like I am. Do you think I want him for Jubbaland Pres? Hell naw. He is also a corrupt, greedy, junior warlord. I think the Cawlyahan guy Oomaar is the best pick. He is not Marehan but just as local to Jubbaland as Ogaden/Cawlyahan, educated, reer magaal, respected and has had relationships cultivated with donors and stakeholders as a Federal minister.

Support change sxb and stop the nin jeclaysi.

[Django]

The only way for Kenya to evacuate is once they cut the funding from its amisom as this Gov asked for from the EU but they cuttted only half. They done this because of the maritime dispute but if things escalate into a military confrontation than they may reconsider this half. JL is important for Kenya in this time as pressure card so they won't give up on madobe until a maritime settlement was reached and even if Kenya loses this case they still need Somali allies. There are two theories that can happen if Kenya loses the case; kenya pulling out and letting al Shabaab in meantime occupy the Somali shores, Kenya backing JL and doing some thing about another region so expecting this it must back madobe reelection. In the first scenario madoobe and his troops are likely to regroup in afmadoow and the border area.

Another scenario is ethiopian amisom and Kenya and Somali govt agreeing on new face and madobe resignation but this is unlikely bc Kenya will not accept another lafta gareen for jubbaland. Lastly, diplomatically it won't be easy to interfere JL that has local allies like PL and foreign connections like Kenya. For Ethiopia, Somali govt uses Ahmed shiddo who works on weaking OG interests. This guy backs Ethiopia having another region with "special relationship" he's the new gebro.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.busi ... index.html

http://www.dhacdo.net/axmed-madoobe-oo- ... ekh-aadan/

Saxib you are marti on JL issue just be a good listener.You know nothing about the Ogaden and Ethiopia relations nor the Kenyan involvement in JL.

Dhacdo is a marexan site and is biased.Axmed will school marexan in the art of politics.

ok sxb I may no know the region but I'm insider who hears general news. I post the links to support my theory not to quote from them. this Govt has alot of cards the former govt didn't had the first is farmaajo and madoobe hail from the same clan this has stopped that xamar clan is invading the clans of kismaayo like Hassan sh time. The second thing is Ethiopia who changed and the new oromo wants a navy base for this reason they wanna use the official door in exchange of madoobe and sorting out the issue by wadahadal. On the other hand Kenya is sticking with the current admin until such settlement is reached. Can N&N dare to stop dacwada? This is the only way they can do some thing about madoobe.

Sahal xassan sheikh time Shirdon was the PM he pulled every trick in the book even funding and delivering Huraale to Kismaayo and organising the war.They lost badly and tried to smear Kenya claimming it was Kenya that massacres its civilians and should leave Kismaayo.However much they cried KDF and Madhoobe were victorious.

The somali water is just a minor issue but the terrorism issue that has been exported to Kenya from Somalia is the main concern.Somali govt cannot give Kenya guarantee that AS will not attack Kenya so Kenya is on the long haul stay.

Secondly marexan do not have any ports in Somalia so what deal can a football pitch rule Villa Somalia offer Ethiopia.

What leaverage do Qaraxmajo have in Xamar? His ministers have been killed while the perpetrators walk free.The mayor is battling for his life as I write.

As for Ethiopia Oromos are need allies Amhara and Togray are uniting.While Sidama wants its own federal state.Ethiopia is inturmoil there military is over streched fighting ossible rebellion they need allies with Somais will marexan offer it?No maybe in cyber space
Madhoobe will not just leave like a coward.AS tried to elienate and kick him he fought back and recaptured Kismaayo.Madhoobe is not iley.If a battle happens in Kismaayo and Ethioipians are involved then Abye can kiss good bye to Ogaden sypport in Ethiopia which he needs badly as the Tigray are heavily armed and will be loving it.Ethiopia will try to scare Blackie with their status but Axmed will not.So they will not try commit suicide to save Farmajo.Abye is in life support hiw will a marine force help him if he cant quell internal rebellion in Ethiopia.Axmed is willing to fight Ethiopia.