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EnlightenedNomad wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:55 am

DR-YALAXOOW wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:28 am Galmudugians ayey u baddan yihiin burcad badeedka laga soo daayey xabsiyada waqooyi galbeed Somalia. Ilamaha aha in Abgaal ay ku jiraan.

Abgaal anaga pirates maxaa na geeyey . Waxaa ku mashquulsanahay this.

^Lool, so funny video.

Yalaxaw, Ninyow ma oodhfanadii, agoontii kacaanku soo koriyaad tahay like Tarzan? You never come across a self respecting Abgaal like Abkow.

Qaldaan cuqdada iska saar.. qaldaaan fooqul qaldaan.
Tarzan waa caaqil waxgarad mudulood.

We know what Tarzan is, lakiin adigu isu kaaya sheeg. Were you an orphan, the so called ubixii kacaanka during afweyne times?

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:58 pm

Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:12 pm


Politics is not all about Ictiraaf Mr local. You are not smart enough to understand how Somali politics work . I don't beg or insult I create my team beyond borders

You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?

Caadi iska dhig. Hawiye have never fought surre nor biyomaal. Habar eji of ceyr fought biimaal while a xawaadle subclan fought surre. Stop this generalization by dragging innocent clans like mudulood, karanle,duduble,xuskul hawiye, gugundhabe and wadalaan in the mud.

If you have problem with hawiye thats up to you but dont blame people who got nothing to do with this.

Isna't General Qaafow Abgaal? His mainly Abgaal 5th SNA brigade and Goobale's 3rd Brigade composed of former Mooryans jointly attacked the Biimaal at the height of the conflict after been given the green light by Xassan Sheikh. History don't lie! Whilst Hassan Sheikh was in power, government resources were being used to target the Biimaal.

General Mohamed Roble Jimale Gobale, Commander of the
3rd Brigade of the SNA (see S/2013/413, annex 3.3), and General Mahamed Hasan
Qaafow, led the attack on K50. Governor of Lower Shabelle Nur confirmed that
Somali military force commanders deliberately attacked the local population.

p.g 85

Following the seizure of control on 9 June 2014 of the port city of Marka and the
K-50 area in Lower Shabelle by the Hawiye-dominated 3rd and 5th Brigades of the
SNA, the district administration and the Biimaal clan militia allied to it were
displaced.

p.g 88

Moreover, the war was also funded by individuals from various HG subclans so they could regain control of the resources in Lower Shabelle fater Shabab were expelled. The conflict was never a traditional clan conflict between two neighbourly clans as there are no HG deegans/Geeljires in Marka District. For instance, Xaaf and his Sacad militia wanted to regain control of the airport at KM.50 whilst the Cayr and Saleebaan Mooryans wanted to continue controlling the looted government plantations that formerly belonged to the Biimaal before the Kacaan. This was purely a business affair pushed by HG Mooryaans in which your clan and 'President' aided them in their onslaught against the Biimaal. How ironic that Waafow who led the Biimaal militia against the Hawiye SNA units is today the District Commissioner of Marka. This would have never happened under Xassan Sheikh. Allah La Yuxibul Dhalimin!

the Hawiye/Haber Gedir wanted to recover the control they had
from 1992 to 2008. In particular, the old banana tycoons, such as Ahmed Duale Gelle
“Haaf” (Habr Gedir/Sa’ad), and import/export, shipping and transport tycoons, such
as Mohamed “Deylaf” (Haber Gedir/Ayr), who was controlling the trade through the
port of Marka from 1995 to 2006, appeared to want to return to the region.

p.g 84

https://hiiraan.com/PDF/2014/Oct/SEMG_Report.pdf

As for Hiiraan, a subclan of Xawaadle fighting Surre?! The bulk of Surre are in Ethiopia, Mudug and Galgadud etc. you make it seem like we ganged up on a subclan of Xawaadle when the opposite is the truth. Xassan Sheikh gave his Reer Apti unconditional support and provided resources to the main Xawaadle SNA units to attack Surre communities who had commercial farms in Hiiraan but it backfired on him and his Reer Apti when we had the last laugh.

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:19 pm

Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:12 pm


Politics is not all about Ictiraaf Mr local. You are not smart enough to understand how Somali politics work . I don't beg or insult I create my team beyond borders

You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?

Horta don't call me "you claim " I AM Dir same like you are . By the way isaaqs have no interest to fuel the flames , we want biimaal and ceyr or surre and xawaadles to reach an agreement. That does not mean I support hutus over biimaal , I support peace which you don't. Local conflicts should not be politicized.

Local kulaha!

There is nothing local about the conflict that took place in Lower Shabelle. With the exception of Abgaal, the camels of Hawiye and Biimaal do not meet. How dumb can you be to associate an attack on Biimaal by the Hawiye SNA and Mooryan funded Al Shabab with a local clan conflict.

I get it that you do not like to see a Darood in power and would have preferred to do a deal with a Hawiye president etc. in your quest for Aqoonsi but don't be a hypocrite by preaching about a non-existent Dirnimo whilst simultaneously downplaying what occurred in Lower Shabelle.

zumaale wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:59 pm

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:19 pm

Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm

You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?

Horta don't call me "you claim " I AM Dir same like you are . By the way isaaqs have no interest to fuel the flames , we want biimaal and ceyr or surre and xawaadles to reach an agreement. That does not mean I support hutus over biimaal , I support peace which you don't. Local conflicts should not be politicized.

Local kulaha!

There is nothing local about the conflict that took place in Lower Shabelle. With the exception of Abgaal, the camels of Hawiye and Biimaal do not meet. How dumb can you be to associate an attack on Biimaal by the Hawiye SNA and Mooryan funded Al Shabab with a local clan conflict.

I get it that you do not like to see a Darood in power and would have preferred to do a deal with a Hawiye president etc. in your quest for Aqoonsi but don't be a hypocrite by preaching about a non-existent Dirnimo whilst simultaneously downplaying what occurred in Lower Shabelle.

Yusuf is delusional and out of touch with reality. He and other equally delusional individuals dream of an alliance with the same people harming the only community we have brotherly ties with in the Somali Peninsula and that is southern Dir.

Also, neither Dofar Ismaciil nor the Hutus can bring recognition. That’s a myth.

zumaale wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:59 pm

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:19 pm

Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm

You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?

Horta don't call me "you claim " I AM Dir same like you are . By the way isaaqs have no interest to fuel the flames , we want biimaal and ceyr or surre and xawaadles to reach an agreement. That does not mean I support hutus over biimaal , I support peace which you don't. Local conflicts should not be politicized.

Local kulaha!

There is nothing local about the conflict that took place in Lower Shabelle. With the exception of Abgaal, the camels of Hawiye and Biimaal do not meet. How dumb can you be to associate an attack on Biimaal by the Hawiye SNA and Mooryan funded Al Shabab with a local clan conflict.

I get it that you do not like to see a Darood in power and would have preferred to do a deal with a Hawiye president etc. in your quest for Aqoonsi but don't be a hypocrite by preaching about a non-existent Dirnimo whilst simultaneously downplaying what occurred in Lower Shabelle.

The conflicts in lower shabeele is between ceyr and sections of biimaal. It does not even effect you in galguduud. When ceyr and biimaal are fighting in marka. Surre and cayr of galguduud chew and chant together with their sufi songs. Every Somali conflict starts From local issues until some unknown peaple with agendas fuel the flames. You can prove that habar gidir were not there In the past hundreds of years ago but you can't prove that their camels don't meet the biimaal today .

This needs to be solved on the table, if ceyr took biimaal farms it's not different from those occupied daarood properties in Mogadishu we can get it back using the system. But if you go against the system then you are doomed. Why biimaal should fight against the SNA when they can join and fill the ranks? . The SNA is not hawiye its who ever joins the first. Same goes to alshabaab . I am habarjeclo I have no problem with hawiye i only have problem with daaarod and isaaq . So yes I do agree with you that dirnimo does exist when it comes to conflicts but it's useful tool when it comes to politics beyond borders. Waan ku salaamaya indr.

There is no such thing as dir nimo cise was neutral between dir and xawaadle. And hawiye siyasadooda waxa laga qaata habargedr in terms with isaaq and somaliland alliance and it depends on the individual in power.

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:58 pm

Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:12 pm


Politics is not all about Ictiraaf Mr local. You are not smart enough to understand how Somali politics work . I don't beg or insult I create my team beyond borders

You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?

Caadi iska dhig. Hawiye have never fought surre nor biyomaal. Habar eji of ceyr fought biimaal while a xawaadle subclan fought surre. Stop this generalization by dragging innocent clans like mudulood, karanle,duduble,xuskul hawiye, gugundhabe and wadalaan in the mud.

If you have problem with hawiye thats up to you but dont blame people who got nothing to do with this.

This man waxa diley cuqdad for Hawiye, in his eyes Hawiye regardless who you are waa mid and thats a good thing.

Zumaale and his langaab dir folks keep twerking for the Daroods and Farmaajo, but they will regret later when Hawiye backlash occurs, kulaha Waafow iyo biimaal can fight and win against Hawiye loool, walahi biimaal has been getting karbashed by Habar Aji alone and not even Ceyr or even all of HG, walahi these langaab dirs keep pushing HAG, they asking for a massacre from Hawiye.

theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:21 am

zumaale wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:59 pm

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:19 pm

Horta don't call me "you claim " I AM Dir same like you are . By the way isaaqs have no interest to fuel the flames , we want biimaal and ceyr or surre and xawaadles to reach an agreement. That does not mean I support hutus over biimaal , I support peace which you don't. Local conflicts should not be politicized.

Local kulaha!

There is nothing local about the conflict that took place in Lower Shabelle. With the exception of Abgaal, the camels of Hawiye and Biimaal do not meet. How dumb can you be to associate an attack on Biimaal by the Hawiye SNA and Mooryan funded Al Shabab with a local clan conflict.

I get it that you do not like to see a Darood in power and would have preferred to do a deal with a Hawiye president etc. in your quest for Aqoonsi but don't be a hypocrite by preaching about a non-existent Dirnimo whilst simultaneously downplaying what occurred in Lower Shabelle.

The conflicts in lower shabeele is between ceyr and sections of biimaal. It does not even effect you in galguduud. When ceyr and biimaal are fighting in marka. Surre and cayr of galguduud chew and chant together with their sufi songs. Every Somali conflict starts From local issues until some unknown peaple with agendas fuel the flames. You can prove that habar gidir were not there In the past hundreds of years ago but you can't prove that their camels don't meet the biimaal today .

This needs to be solved on the table, if ceyr took biimaal farms it's not different from those occupied daarood properties in Mogadishu we can get it back using the system. But if you go against the system then you are doomed. Why biimaal should fight against the SNA when they can join and fill the ranks? . The SNA is not hawiye its who ever joins the first. Same goes to alshabaab . I am habarjeclo I have no problem with hawiye i only have problem with daaarod and isaaq . So yes I do agree with you that dirnimo does exist when it comes to conflicts but it's useful tool when it comes to politics beyond borders. Waan ku salaamaya indr.

This man Zumaale has an special cuqdad for Hawiye especially for HG i noticed, perhaps he is an victim of Habar Aji attacks in Marka.

This man honestly believes that Dirs in Somalia can face off united HG alone, he from all the Somali clans should know that Dir are the wakest and most irrelevant clan in Somalia, they live by the grace of Hawiyes and yet this zumaale spits out our grace by dissing us in favor of daroods??!?!?!

theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:21 am

zumaale wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:59 pm

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:19 pm

Horta don't call me "you claim " I AM Dir same like you are . By the way isaaqs have no interest to fuel the flames , we want biimaal and ceyr or surre and xawaadles to reach an agreement. That does not mean I support hutus over biimaal , I support peace which you don't. Local conflicts should not be politicized.

Local kulaha!

There is nothing local about the conflict that took place in Lower Shabelle. With the exception of Abgaal, the camels of Hawiye and Biimaal do not meet. How dumb can you be to associate an attack on Biimaal by the Hawiye SNA and Mooryan funded Al Shabab with a local clan conflict.

I get it that you do not like to see a Darood in power and would have preferred to do a deal with a Hawiye president etc. in your quest for Aqoonsi but don't be a hypocrite by preaching about a non-existent Dirnimo whilst simultaneously downplaying what occurred in Lower Shabelle.

The conflicts in lower shabeele is between ceyr and sections of biimaal. It does not even effect you in galguduud. When ceyr and biimaal are fighting in marka. Surre and cayr of galguduud chew and chant together with their sufi songs. Every Somali conflict starts From local issues until some unknown peaple with agendas fuel the flames. You can prove that habar gidir were not there In the past hundreds of years ago but you can't prove that their camels don't meet the biimaal today .

This needs to be solved on the table, if ceyr took biimaal farms it's not different from those occupied daarood properties in Mogadishu we can get it back using the system. But if you go against the system then you are doomed. Why biimaal should fight against the SNA when they can join and fill the ranks? . The SNA is not hawiye its who ever joins the first. Same goes to alshabaab . I am habarjeclo I have no problem with hawiye i only have problem with daaarod and isaaq . So yes I do agree with you that dirnimo does exist when it comes to conflicts but it's useful tool when it comes to politics beyond borders. Waan ku salaamaya indr.

I agree with you that I have my own interests in Galmudug. Some Surre subclans and HG are tight.
However, they ain't no Biimaal in this forum to speak on their behalf. Are you also forgetting it was General Dhagabadan and a Surre SNA detachment that first emboldened the Biimaal to pick up arms. Who do you think helped defend No.50 in 2013-2014. We have more Dhiig than folk such as you who claim to be closer to them Abtirsi wise. Even when they killed those Isaaq farmers in Marka district, y'all kept schtum.

You know fuck all about the conflict is Lower S as demonstrated by how you portray it as a local conflict between two neighbouring clans when it is mainly about resources which some warlords and mafia businessmen want to control. Why was an Abgaal General and his Brigade attacking the Biimaal if the conflict was as simple as you make it out to be. Also, under Xassan Sheikh, the recruitment of Biimaal SNA soldiers was a non-starter. It is only under Farmaajo that they have begun to be recruited into the SNA. AS are another Mafia organisation who are more concerned with collecting tax revenue than fairly settling the grievances of LS clans so no point in seeking justice from them.

As for Camels of HG meeting Biimaal? Are you fuc.king retarded? The only Hawiye that they neighbour in the Mii are the Abgaal of Afgooye District and Murusade of Bulo Mareer. There is no Habargidir Tuulo or Geeljires in Degmada Marka! Were you sober when you wrote that? Learn who lives where and does what before commenting on lands you are ignorant of!

Sagax wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:45 am

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:58 pm

Xildiiid wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:39 pm

You claim to be Dir yet these people (Hutus) are the worst enemies of southern Dir.

We saw how they fought Surre in Hiiraan and Biimaal in Lower Shabeelle.

Xidhiidhka aad la yeelaneysaa waa maxay?

Caadi iska dhig. Hawiye have never fought surre nor biyomaal. Habar eji of ceyr fought biimaal while a xawaadle subclan fought surre. Stop this generalization by dragging innocent clans like mudulood, karanle,duduble,xuskul hawiye, gugundhabe and wadalaan in the mud.

If you have problem with hawiye thats up to you but dont blame people who got nothing to do with this.

This man waxa diley cuqdad for Hawiye, in his eyes Hawiye regardless who you are waa mid and thats a good thing.

Zumaale and his langaab dir folks keep twerking for the Daroods and Farmaajo, but they will regret later when Hawiye backlash occurs, kulaha Waafow iyo biimaal can fight and win against Hawiye loool, walahi biimaal has been getting karbashed by Habar Aji alone and not even Ceyr or even all of HG, walahi these langaab dirs keep pushing HAG, they asking for a massacre from Hawiye.

Yes, Hawiye and Darod are the main enemy of Isaaq.

theyuusuf143 wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:21 am

zumaale wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:59 pm

theyuusuf143 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:19 pm

Horta don't call me "you claim " I AM Dir same like you are . By the way isaaqs have no interest to fuel the flames , we want biimaal and ceyr or surre and xawaadles to reach an agreement. That does not mean I support hutus over biimaal , I support peace which you don't. Local conflicts should not be politicized.

Local kulaha!

There is nothing local about the conflict that took place in Lower Shabelle. With the exception of Abgaal, the camels of Hawiye and Biimaal do not meet. How dumb can you be to associate an attack on Biimaal by the Hawiye SNA and Mooryan funded Al Shabab with a local clan conflict.

I get it that you do not like to see a Darood in power and would have preferred to do a deal with a Hawiye president etc. in your quest for Aqoonsi but don't be a hypocrite by preaching about a non-existent Dirnimo whilst simultaneously downplaying what occurred in Lower Shabelle.

The conflicts in lower shabeele is between ceyr and sections of biimaal. It does not even effect you in galguduud. When ceyr and biimaal are fighting in marka. Surre and cayr of galguduud chew and chant together with their sufi songs. Every Somali conflict starts From local issues until some unknown peaple with agendas fuel the flames. You can prove that habar gidir were not there In the past hundreds of years ago but you can't prove that their camels don't meet the biimaal today .

This needs to be solved on the table, if ceyr took biimaal farms it's not different from those occupied daarood properties in Mogadishu we can get it back using the system. But if you go against the system then you are doomed. Why biimaal should fight against the SNA when they can join and fill the ranks? . The SNA is not hawiye its who ever joins the first. Same goes to alshabaab . I am habarjeclo I have no problem with hawiye i only have problem with daaarod and isaaq . So yes I do agree with you that dirnimo does exist when it comes to conflicts but it's useful tool when it comes to politics beyond borders. Waan ku salaamaya indr.

Waar niyow naga aamu!

You don’t know your real enemies that’s why you and other delusional Iidoor hate their own kin with passion while doing niiko for our mortal enemies. Marna Darod futada u rux, marna Hawiye. f-king disgrace!

Hadaanad Biimaal waxba u qabaneyn, waxba ha u dhimin by parroting the moryaan narrative.