Is galmudug made of two states? It would make sense to join hirshabelle but I doubt reer muqdisho want this to happen. They are 3 million so might as well make their own state
galmudug should take all of mudug region by force if necessary, so called puntland should be confined to only nugaal and bari.
either the constitution is amended so that each of the old pre-1991 regions including banadir can stand alone or banadir would have to join an existing member federal state such as hiirshabelle
That aqli is why our country is in the state it is. Using force doesn’t resolve anything and it’s the reason why we are all qaxooti in all corners of the globe. my opinion is some of these federal states that are not homogenous (inhabited by 1 clan) will not work in the long term.
and this is why your an langaab gaaljecel folks are being analy rammed by the daroods in Jubaland while running to us Hawiye for help, waryaa galjecelow dont ever talk of the Hawiye affairs again langaab foqol langaabow.
Northern Mudug belongs to us Hawiye especially to HG by Law and Constitution and once we stabilise our Galmudug state we shall expell those cowards naagow majerteen dabayacos that cant fight a shit.
galmudug should take all of mudug region by force if necessary, so called puntland should be confined to only nugaal and bari.
either the constitution is amended so that each of the old pre-1991 regions including banadir can stand alone or banadir would have to join an existing member federal state such as hiirshabelle
That aqli is why our country is in the state it is. Using force doesn’t resolve anything and it’s the reason why we are all qaxooti in all corners of the globe. my opinion is some of these federal states that are not homogenous (inhabited by 1 clan) will not work in the long term.
and this is why your an langaab gaaljecel folks are being analy rammed by the daroods in Jubaland while running to us Hawiye for help, waryaa galjecelow dont ever talk of the Hawiye affairs again langaab foqol langaabow.
Northern Mudug belongs to us Hawiye especially to HG by Law and Constitution and once we stabilise our Galmudug state we shall expell those cowards naagow majerteen dabayacos that cant fight a shit.
You sound like a tuug raised on xoolo dadoow and xaaram. Your savage way of thinking is outdated this is not 1990. The era of biliqeysi iyo kufsi is over marka caadi iska dhig and think rationally
That aqli is why our country is in the state it is. Using force doesn’t resolve anything and it’s the reason why we are all qaxooti in all corners of the globe. my opinion is some of these federal states that are not homogenous (inhabited by 1 clan) will not work in the long term.
and this is why your an langaab gaaljecel folks are being analy rammed by the daroods in Jubaland while running to us Hawiye for help, waryaa galjecelow dont ever talk of the Hawiye affairs again langaab foqol langaabow.
Northern Mudug belongs to us Hawiye especially to HG by Law and Constitution and once we stabilise our Galmudug state we shall expell those cowards naagow majerteen dabayacos that cant fight a shit.
You sound like a tuug raised on xoolo dadoow and xaaram. Your savage way of thinking is outdated this is not 1990. The era of biliqeysi iyo kufsi is over marka caadi iska dhig and think rationally
Langaab foqol langaabow, your folks will be extinct soon in Jubaland so try to stand on your own 2 feet and dont ever claim us Hawiye again stupid galjecel langaabow.
p.s again dont ever talk about banaadir, mudug or anything Hawiye related affair, learn your place next time langaab galjecelow.
and this is why your an langaab gaaljecel folks are being analy rammed by the daroods in Jubaland while running to us Hawiye for help, waryaa galjecelow dont ever talk of the Hawiye affairs again langaab foqol langaabow.
Northern Mudug belongs to us Hawiye especially to HG by Law and Constitution and once we stabilise our Galmudug state we shall expell those cowards naagow majerteen dabayacos that cant fight a shit.
You sound like a tuug raised on xoolo dadoow and xaaram. Your savage way of thinking is outdated this is not 1990. The era of biliqeysi iyo kufsi is over marka caadi iska dhig and think rationally
Langaab foqol langaabow, your folks will be extinct soon in Jubaland so try to stand on your own 2 feet and dont ever claim us Hawiye again stupid galjecel langaabow.
p.s again dont ever talk about banaadir, mudug or anything Hawiye related affair, learn your place next time langaab galjecelow.
Kkkk patriot aka django what is more langaab then pretending to be HG. Who is more laangaab then a sheegato u weirdo.
You sound like a tuug raised on xoolo dadoow and xaaram. Your savage way of thinking is outdated this is not 1990. The era of biliqeysi iyo kufsi is over marka caadi iska dhig and think rationally
Langaab foqol langaabow, your folks will be extinct soon in Jubaland so try to stand on your own 2 feet and dont ever claim us Hawiye again stupid galjecel langaabow.
p.s again dont ever talk about banaadir, mudug or anything Hawiye related affair, learn your place next time langaab galjecelow.
Kkkk patriot aka django what is more langaab then pretending to be HG. Who is more laangaab then a sheegato u weirdo.
Y the fuck do you have to pick up a fight with me war ninkan iska celi mangaabyahow.
Langaab foqol langaabow, your folks will be extinct soon in Jubaland so try to stand on your own 2 feet and dont ever claim us Hawiye again stupid galjecel langaabow.
p.s again dont ever talk about banaadir, mudug or anything Hawiye related affair, learn your place next time langaab galjecelow.
Kkkk patriot aka django what is more langaab then pretending to be HG. Who is more laangaab then a sheegato u weirdo.
Y the fuck do you have to pick up a fight with me war ninkan iska celi mangaabyahow.
DaroorMan wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:28 am
i think banadir region should be part of hiirshabelle since it cannot be its own state as two or more (pre-1991) regions must make up a member federal state but at the same time they should not be directly be ruled by the corrupt and dysfunctional federal govt for obvious reasons
which leaves being part of hiirshabelle regional state and besides banadir and middle shabelle are both related clan wise
Is galmudug made of two states? It would make sense to join hirshabelle but I doubt reer muqdisho want this to happen. They are 3 million so might as well make their own state
don't say galmudug is a region and half your novice to the Somali politics, per 2016 vision, Galmudug comprises Mudug and Galgaduud this was said by then pm abdi wali yuulka that is why he visited PL him and nick kay to calm down PL. it was agreed to leave the fate of mudug for the Boundaries and Federation Commission wich will mark the boundries between all the states and hirshabelle and southwest and banaadir. this file was left for the current Govt. at that time mjs were sending to this gudi under their daughter asho geele who is very moderate lady and now supported kheyre visit to north GLK as part of his galmudug tour their tribal border. my info says this govt is more pro one intact Mudug first to weaken and divide mj and secondly to bring more darod subclans in the admin and make it look like 50/50 hawiye and darod after leelkase and cumar maxamuud join mx. their third agenda is to make HG and MJ busy on eachother. this will be all done once they control dhusamareeb the capital will be moved to GLK to create a new power sharing beteeen sacad and mx, cumar maxamuud and leelkase. the importance of ceyr and saleebaan will disappear but murursade, dir and weceysle will share gudoonka baarlamaanka.
Banaadir as stand alone state will be plus for HAG. mj Dblocks wanted hiiraan to join galgaduud and banaadir to join jowhar so they can take the capital since PL claims all the harti territories and mj alone have nugaal and bari and nothern mudug. this was going to happen if someone like sh sharif was still there. that is why the constitution doesnt state mogadishu as the capital rather it says itll be decided where the capital...Hiraabist Dam jadeed changed all this and put PL in a defensive position after Galmudug claimed its borders being burtiinle wich is on the border with nugaal. banaadir will have an elected council assembly, mayor and district commisioners and you know only a local son can win this will make it practically a state of its own. biggest mistake Hassan sh done was not doing this in his time otherwise today you will have had an independent mayor. he acually helped HG more than Abgaal.
DaroorMan wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:28 am
i think banadir region should be part of hiirshabelle since it cannot be its own state as two or more (pre-1991) regions must make up a member federal state but at the same time they should not be directly be ruled by the corrupt and dysfunctional federal govt for obvious reasons
which leaves being part of hiirshabelle regional state and besides banadir and middle shabelle are both related clan wise
Is galmudug made of two states? It would make sense to join hirshabelle but I doubt reer muqdisho want this to happen. They are 3 million so might as well make their own state
don't say galmudug is a region and half your novice to the Somali politics, per 2016 vision, Galmudug comprises Mudug and Galgaduud this was said by then pm abdi wali yuulka that is why he visited PL him and nick kay to calm down PL. it was agreed to leave the fate of mudug for the Boundaries and Federation Commission wich will mark the boundries between all the states and hirshabelle and southwest and banaadir. this file was left for the current Govt. at that time mjs were sending to this gudi under their daughter asho geele who is very moderate lady and now supported kheyre visit to north GLK as part of his galmudug tour their tribal border. my info says this govt is more pro one intact Mudug first to weaken and divide mj and secondly to bring more darod subclans in the admin and make it look like 50/50 hawiye and darod after leelkase and cumar maxamuud join mx. their third agenda is to make HG and MJ busy on eachother. this will be all done once they control dhusamareeb the capital will be moved to GLK to create a new power sharing beteeen sacad and mx, cumar maxamuud and leelkase. the importance of ceyr and saleebaan will disappear but murursade, dir and weceysle will share gudoonka baarlamaanka.
Banaadir as stand alone state will be plus for HAG. mj Dblocks wanted hiiraan to join galgaduud and banaadir to join jowhar so they can take the capital since PL claims all the harti territories and mj alone have nugaal and bari and nothern mudug. this was going to happen if someone like sh sharif was still there. that is why the constitution doesnt state mogadishu as the capital rather it says itll be decided where the capital...Hiraabist Dam jadeed changed all this and put PL in a defensive position after Galmudug claimed its borders being burtiinle wich is on the border with nugaal. banaadir will have an elected council assembly, mayor and district commisioners and you know only a local son can win this will make it practically a state of its own. biggest mistake Hassan sh done was not doing this in his time otherwise today you will have had an independent mayor. he acually helped HG more than Abgaal.
Do u truly believe hg and mj can share a state between themselves. Put ur clan bias aside. They can not share a city galkacyo what makes u think they will be able to share a state. do u know how deep and bitter the rivalry between these two is.
Is galmudug made of two states? It would make sense to join hirshabelle but I doubt reer muqdisho want this to happen. They are 3 million so might as well make their own state
don't say galmudug is a region and half your novice to the Somali politics, per 2016 vision, Galmudug comprises Mudug and Galgaduud this was said by then pm abdi wali yuulka that is why he visited PL him and nick kay to calm down PL. it was agreed to leave the fate of mudug for the Boundaries and Federation Commission wich will mark the boundries between all the states and hirshabelle and southwest and banaadir. this file was left for the current Govt. at that time mjs were sending to this gudi under their daughter asho geele who is very moderate lady and now supported kheyre visit to north GLK as part of his galmudug tour their tribal border. my info says this govt is more pro one intact Mudug first to weaken and divide mj and secondly to bring more darod subclans in the admin and make it look like 50/50 hawiye and darod after leelkase and cumar maxamuud join mx. their third agenda is to make HG and MJ busy on eachother. this will be all done once they control dhusamareeb the capital will be moved to GLK to create a new power sharing beteeen sacad and mx, cumar maxamuud and leelkase. the importance of ceyr and saleebaan will disappear but murursade, dir and weceysle will share gudoonka baarlamaanka.
Banaadir as stand alone state will be plus for HAG. mj Dblocks wanted hiiraan to join galgaduud and banaadir to join jowhar so they can take the capital since PL claims all the harti territories and mj alone have nugaal and bari and nothern mudug. this was going to happen if someone like sh sharif was still there. that is why the constitution doesnt state mogadishu as the capital rather it says itll be decided where the capital...Hiraabist Dam jadeed changed all this and put PL in a defensive position after Galmudug claimed its borders being burtiinle wich is on the border with nugaal. banaadir will have an elected council assembly, mayor and district commisioners and you know only a local son can win this will make it practically a state of its own. biggest mistake Hassan sh done was not doing this in his time otherwise today you will have had an independent mayor. he acually helped HG more than Abgaal.
Do u truly believe hg and mj can share a state between themselves. Put ur clan bias aside. They can not share a city galkacyo what makes u think they will be able to share a state. do u know how deep and bitter the rivalry between these two is.
Its by law , it does not matter if they can share something or can't. The federal government should still recognize mudug as part of galmudug. If MJs refuse to accept this. Then hawiye and Dir won't allow jubaland borders you can use this as an excuse to reclaim your gaaljecel in the deep jubbas if you like it's a good bargaining chip for all of us if hawiye keep claiming all mudug as part of their sphere. You have a long way to understand how Somali politics work.
Is galmudug made of two states? It would make sense to join hirshabelle but I doubt reer muqdisho want this to happen. They are 3 million so might as well make their own state
don't say galmudug is a region and half your novice to the Somali politics, per 2016 vision, Galmudug comprises Mudug and Galgaduud this was said by then pm abdi wali yuulka that is why he visited PL him and nick kay to calm down PL. it was agreed to leave the fate of mudug for the Boundaries and Federation Commission wich will mark the boundries between all the states and hirshabelle and southwest and banaadir. this file was left for the current Govt. at that time mjs were sending to this gudi under their daughter asho geele who is very moderate lady and now supported kheyre visit to north GLK as part of his galmudug tour their tribal border. my info says this govt is more pro one intact Mudug first to weaken and divide mj and secondly to bring more darod subclans in the admin and make it look like 50/50 hawiye and darod after leelkase and cumar maxamuud join mx. their third agenda is to make HG and MJ busy on eachother. this will be all done once they control dhusamareeb the capital will be moved to GLK to create a new power sharing beteeen sacad and mx, cumar maxamuud and leelkase. the importance of ceyr and saleebaan will disappear but murursade, dir and weceysle will share gudoonka baarlamaanka.
Banaadir as stand alone state will be plus for HAG. mj Dblocks wanted hiiraan to join galgaduud and banaadir to join jowhar so they can take the capital since PL claims all the harti territories and mj alone have nugaal and bari and nothern mudug. this was going to happen if someone like sh sharif was still there. that is why the constitution doesnt state mogadishu as the capital rather it says itll be decided where the capital...Hiraabist Dam jadeed changed all this and put PL in a defensive position after Galmudug claimed its borders being burtiinle wich is on the border with nugaal. banaadir will have an elected council assembly, mayor and district commisioners and you know only a local son can win this will make it practically a state of its own. biggest mistake Hassan sh done was not doing this in his time otherwise today you will have had an independent mayor. he acually helped HG more than Abgaal.
Do u truly believe hg and mj can share a state between themselves. Put ur clan bias aside. They can not share a city galkacyo what makes u think they will be able to share a state. do u know how deep and bitter the rivalry between these two is.
its not about them its about the state policy both the former and even more this Govt suppory one intact Mudug. look the map in this kheyre campaign mudug is part of Galmudug. Farmaajo supports it too maybe from clan perspective as mx will have darod sisters also leelkase support it. fatmaajo also likes mj to be divided but something you dont know my nomadic friend is that thought mj are united from the outside unlike of HG they have internal competition this is why garacad port bc if cumar maxamuud join what they call the greater Galmudug admin it will be a card against Hobyo the supposed port of Galmudug(hijacking hobyo project) thus, having caasimada, airport and the port cumar maxamuud will prosper. faroole likes them to join Galmudug.
sahal80 wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:41 pm
don't say galmudug is a region and half your novice to the Somali politics, per 2016 vision, Galmudug comprises Mudug and Galgaduud this was said by then pm abdi wali yuulka that is why he visited PL him and nick kay to calm down PL. it was agreed to leave the fate of mudug for the Boundaries and Federation Commission wich will mark the boundries between all the states and hirshabelle and southwest and banaadir. this file was left for the current Govt. at that time mjs were sending to this gudi under their daughter asho geele who is very moderate lady and now supported kheyre visit to north GLK as part of his galmudug tour their tribal border. my info says this govt is more pro one intact Mudug first to weaken and divide mj and secondly to bring more darod subclans in the admin and make it look like 50/50 hawiye and darod after leelkase and cumar maxamuud join mx. their third agenda is to make HG and MJ busy on eachother. this will be all done once they control dhusamareeb the capital will be moved to GLK to create a new power sharing beteeen sacad and mx, cumar maxamuud and leelkase. the importance of ceyr and saleebaan will disappear but murursade, dir and weceysle will share gudoonka baarlamaanka.
Banaadir as stand alone state will be plus for HAG. mj Dblocks wanted hiiraan to join galgaduud and banaadir to join jowhar so they can take the capital since PL claims all the harti territories and mj alone have nugaal and bari and nothern mudug. this was going to happen if someone like sh sharif was still there. that is why the constitution doesnt state mogadishu as the capital rather it says itll be decided where the capital...Hiraabist Dam jadeed changed all this and put PL in a defensive position after Galmudug claimed its borders being burtiinle wich is on the border with nugaal. banaadir will have an elected council assembly, mayor and district commisioners and you know only a local son can win this will make it practically a state of its own. biggest mistake Hassan sh done was not doing this in his time otherwise today you will have had an independent mayor. he acually helped HG more than Abgaal.
Do u truly believe hg and mj can share a state between themselves. Put ur clan bias aside. They can not share a city galkacyo what makes u think they will be able to share a state. do u know how deep and bitter the rivalry between these two is.
its not about them its about the state policy both the former and even more this Govt suppory one intact Mudug. look the map in this kheyre campaign mudug is part of Galmudug. Farmaajo supports it too maybe from clan perspective as mx will have darod sisters also leelkase support it. fatmaajo also likes mj to be divided but something you dont know my nomadic friend is that thought mj are united from the outside unlike of HG they have internal competition this is why garacad port bc if cumar maxamuud join what they call the greater Galmudug admin it will be a card against Hobyo the supposed port of Galmudug(hijacking hobyo project) thus, having caasimada, airport and the port cumar maxamuud will prosper. faroole likes them to join Galmudug.
im out now.
I’m sure u know kheyre is running for presidency in the next election so of course he is going to need hiiraab backing. So of course he will support United Mudug. Farmajo is supporting it for mareexan reasons but he is gone soon anyways. The reality on the ground is that if these guys cannot share a city and there is a green line in the shared city, they will not share a functioning state. If they can’t share galkacyo between themselves over the last 20 years can u please tell me how it is remotely possible for them to share a state. It is a riyo,a dream for both sides that want to control all of Mudug. And ninyoow what is with this term “nomadic”. Being nomadic is not something to be ashamed of I’m proud of being “nomadic”. Do u see me calling xawadle “jicib eating” etc. Foodada naga daa
my nomadic friend these mudug people have reached heshiis in early 90s and shared the airport. you see them talking shit agsinst each other and landing in the same airport. they have now joint police station and joint army HQ and hold joint conferences in GLK so there so they can coexist better than HG and Abgaal like the case of ceyr and mx. ahlussuna had two mx presidents before sh hilowle and sh lagharre. the problem is wich admin annexing the other. as i told you PL was planning hiiraan to join galgaduud so it can keep the whole GLK atleast now its the opposit.
im political insider i mentioned this in abril. your point was galmudug is not about two regions not about they cant coexist you start saying this after you lost the first argument kkkk
even qaldaans are celebrating bc this govt cant not change the status of the disputed territory until is reached settlement with SL. this was reached during the road map that why sanaag and sool are not part of the federal process.
my nomadic friend these mudug people have reached heshiis in early 90s and shared the airport. you see them talking shit agsinst each other and landing in the same airport. they have now joint police station and joint army HQ and hold joint conferences in GLK so there so they can coexist better than HG and Abgaal like the case of ceyr and mx. ahlussuna had two mx presidents before sh hilowle and sh lagharre. the problem is wich admin annexing the other. as i told you PL was planning hiiraan to join galgaduud so it can keep the whole GLK atleast now its the opposit.
im political insider i mentioned this in abril. your point was galmudug is not about two regions not about they cant coexist you start saying this after you lost the first argument kkkk
even qaldaans are celebrating bc this govt cant not change the status of the disputed territory until is reached settlement with SL. this was reached during the road map that why sanaag and sool are not part of the federal process.
Kkkk the only one who lives in the duur is ur people when they were expelled from beledweyne in the 90s. I know u hate gaaljecel and but they will be forever present in hiiraan wiliba in beledweyne. And if we have to we have control of the highway remember that. In reality until u show me practical evidence I will believe this is 1.5 states when there is a green line in galkacyo not kheyre propaganda
what did you do to him .
it's a good bargaining chip for all of us if hawiye keep claiming all mudug as part of their sphere. You have a long way to understand how Somali politics work.