The Jubbaland project under Kenya/Madoobe is pretty much over

[FatheroftheCamel]

Boons must come to terms they have lost .Madoobe must put down his long feet and start arresting these spoliers .

Kkkkk look at the weak and poor opposition , they have gathered under a mud hut and chingaan and are calling it an election .

[DANGIRL]

It's not PHYSICALLY over of course---as Kenyan troops are there and Madoobe is physically in control of town with them.

Otherwise it is pretty much over. It has no legitimacy and no staying power.

During the first election, Marehan were seen as complete spoilers by everyone who mattered.

The UN, Kenya, Ethiopia, IGAD, etc.

During this election, you had the UN criticize the legitimacy of the poll.

You had Kenyan troops PHYSICALLY BLOCK Ethiopian AMISOM troops at the airport. (Can you imagine the level of bad blood about this the Ethiopians now carry?)

It's pretty much over.

As for Kenya, the real showdown will begin when the ICC makes it's ruling about the coastal waters in the next two months.

That's when the real showdown will begin and if Somalia is awarded the coast and the Kenyans do not accept, I am told by people very close to Farmaajo that he will FORMALLY ask Kenyan troops to leave the country and FORMALLY ask the African Union and the UN remove Kenya from AMISOM.

I am told there is already a contingency plan being worked out where a dual Ethiopian and Burundi force will replace Kenya in Kismaayo.

We will see, but one thing I know is Ahmed is only relevant in so far as Kenya is there.

The project as it was is completely over and will be restarted from scratch at some point.

Anybody with a brain knows this is the reality. Even Ogaden amongst themselves have bad blood due to this kangaroo election. Now, from what I'm hearing, Uhuru is on his way to Addis Ababa to try to soothe things over next few days. But the reality of this transgression has cemented the reality of Cushitic axis of the Horn against the Bantu EAC axis. Farmaajo has divided the historical alliance of Kenya/Ethiopia. Which works in our favor.

Also, in the next few days James Swan will send a letter out that is critical of Kenya's role in AMSOM due to the Kismayo airport incident. Kenya has pissed off powerful western allies like the US. Whose already pissed at Kenya for being in bed with China and the debt it incurred.

Geopolitics winds work in Somalia's favor.

The FGS cannot allow a character like madoobe to continue in any leadership capacity. Your analysis of the KDF departure occurring after the ICJ ruling is something that I also heard. Ethiopians moving in with support from troops in Gedo taking over the security of middle jubba will be the mostl likely occurrence. Right now troops are in anaooleh and moving towards saakow. Uhuru has made a miscalculation by going to this extent in openly siding with this guy.

This what has become of Siad Barre kinsfolks.

[Murax]

DANGIRL! Welcome back!!

[Voltage]

Look who came out of the woods! Danny welcome back ayeeyo

To the rest of you Ahmed Madoobe is really irrelevant to the topic. It could be any other puppet and this situation will stand.

As I have said in my topic, the ICJ will give it's verdict on the ocean boundary case in LATE SEPTEMBER.

The next TWO MONTHS are key because the fake smiles will be over between the Somali gov and Kenya. As Somalia expects to win, we will see what the Kenyans do.

At that point Farmaajo will FORMALLY ask the African Union to remove Kenya from the AMISOM label and a contingent of Ethiopian soldiers and about 100 Burundi forces will be sent to Kismaayo

[Sagax]

Look who came out of the woods! Danny welcome back ayeeyo

To the rest of you Ahmed Madoobe is really irrelevant to the topic. It could be any other puppet and this situation will stand.

As I have said in my topic, the ICJ will give it's verdict on the ocean boundary case in LATE SEPTEMBER.

The next TWO MONTHS are key because the fake smiles will be over between the Somali gov and Kenya. As Somalia expects to win, we will see what the Kenyans do.

At that point Farmaajo will FORMALLY ask the African Union to remove Kenya from the AMISOM label and a contingent of Ethiopian soldiers and about 100 Burundi forces will be sent to Kismaayo

Voltage on a serious note, what happens if the Gaalo side with Kenya, and grant them court victory over Somalia, walahi i sense if this does happen a witch hunt against beesha Ogadens (since they brought Kenya and Madobe) will be unleashed as a way to fend off the pain and sorrow of losing part of Somalia.

You just never know, Kenya might really win the court case.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Look who came out of the woods! Danny welcome back ayeeyo

To the rest of you Ahmed Madoobe is really irrelevant to the topic. It could be any other puppet and this situation will stand.

As I have said in my topic, the ICJ will give it's verdict on the ocean boundary case in LATE SEPTEMBER.

The next TWO MONTHS are key because the fake smiles will be over between the Somali gov and Kenya. As Somalia expects to win, we will see what the Kenyans do.

At that point Farmaajo will FORMALLY ask the African Union to remove Kenya from the AMISOM label and a contingent of Ethiopian soldiers and about 100 Burundi forces will be sent to Kismaayo

Voltage on a serious note, what happens if the Gaalo side with Kenya, and grant them court victory over Somalia, walahi i sense if this does happen a witch hunt against beesha Ogadens (since they brought Kenya and Madobe) will be unleashed as a way to fend off the pain and sorrow of losing part of Somalia.

You just never know, Kenya might really win the court case.

That's why Ogaden are scared of MX gaining JL. Even if we win. The Kenyans will try to keep Blackie. This whole situation is a win for Beesha SADE

[Voltage]

Look who came out of the woods! Danny welcome back ayeeyo

To the rest of you Ahmed Madoobe is really irrelevant to the topic. It could be any other puppet and this situation will stand.

As I have said in my topic, the ICJ will give it's verdict on the ocean boundary case in LATE SEPTEMBER.

The next TWO MONTHS are key because the fake smiles will be over between the Somali gov and Kenya. As Somalia expects to win, we will see what the Kenyans do.

At that point Farmaajo will FORMALLY ask the African Union to remove Kenya from the AMISOM label and a contingent of Ethiopian soldiers and about 100 Burundi forces will be sent to Kismaayo

Voltage on a serious note, what happens if the Gaalo side with Kenya, and grant them court victory over Somalia, walahi i sense if this does happen a witch hunt against beesha Ogadens (since they brought Kenya and Madobe) will be unleashed as a way to fend off the pain and sorrow of losing part of Somalia.

You just never know, Kenya might really win the court case.

It is a POSSIBILITY that Kenya will win, but having looked previous court verdict, Somalia is expected to win which is why Kenya has tried to do an out of court settlement for years.

Remember Somalia has already won the first judgement. Kenya disputed whether the ICJ even jurisdiction and it lost that case in 2017.

Then they tried to ignore the court.

Finally the ICJ sent Kenya a last warning, either argue their case or a judgement reached without their participation. The ICJ told Kenya with or without you the case will be decided. So Kenya reluctantly started participating all the while still trying to hold out hope for an out of court settlement.

The reason Somalia is expected to win is because of by international precedent MARITIME BORDER OF A NATION SHOULD FOLLOW IT'S BIRDER ON LAND.

Because of this reason Somalia is planning on the evantuality it will win and that Kenya will not accept which will be the beginning of a total diplomatic breakdown.

However if Somalia somehow does not win, I fear for the otherization and taint that will follow Ahmed Madoobe supporters when Somalis become emotional and angry.

Also, while I do not think Farmaajo will break down diplomacy if we lose the case we brought, I suspect the Parliament will take up the issue and pass a motion telling Kenya to get out.

ALL IN ALL, AFTER 6 YEARS, SOMALIA AND KENYA WILL FINALLY CONFRONT EACH OTHER.

The case will be from September 9-13.

[grandpakhalif]

Yup, Parliament is back in session on september 15th, I heard a motion is already being prepared against Kenya. I wonder what OG supporters of Madoobe will do when this happens? They are literally pitting themselves against the entire Somali people.

[original dervish]

JL has nothing to do with the maritime dispute.....all territorial waters of Somalia are the sole purview of the federal govt .

The attack against Madobe is not about democracy....Farmaajo got into Villa Somalia by vote buying as did hsm before him.

These are attacks against a Darood led JL.

[samatar133]

JL has nothing to do with the maritime dispute.....all territorial waters of Somalia are the sole purview of the federal govt .

The attack against Madobe is not about democracy....Farmaajo got into Villa Somalia by vote buying as did hsm before him.

These are attacks against a Darood led JL.

So boon Farmajo is not Darood anymore? By the way, a collection of none Darood clans make more than 50% in the so called JL, in the event of a free and fair popular election, Jabarti will lose out.Ninyow Democracy is bad for your people, pray it never happens in Somalia.

[Murax]

Voltage,

What if Kenya wins a seat on the UN Security council, does that change things? I thought I read somewhere how that could help not make the verdict binding on them while they have the seat.


All in all though it is great news Farmaajo plans this path.

[knet]

The only thing that is over is Farmaajo Presidency! His dumb ass needs to take a loss or we will be back to civil war status!