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Okay I give up, lol@ Bakool. Why stop there Django? Isn’t Mexico Cawlyahan land too?



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Murax, nimankaan way waasheen. The reason why NO ONE responds to them about Bakool is because of how outlandish it is. It's like Habar Gidir claiming Sool because 5 Fiqi Shini families live with Dhulbahante.

There is a Majeerteen/Cumar Maxmuud guy in Seattle who used to be the governor of Bakool during Siad Barre. Somalian-Boqor knows him. Af buuxo this guy said meel la dhooban yahay "Ogaadeen hal deegaan xataa Bakool kuma lehidiin. Not only you but there is not a single non-Rahanweyn deegaan in Bakool. If you had even a single deegaan, I would be the number one person serving as witness."

The guy said Bakool was a huge Xer center and Ogaadeen/Cawlyahan being the neighbors across the border sought Quraan and sometimes grazing land during abaar. He said Rahanweyn ilaahay kama dhigin reer Mudug who will starve even their brother and would open their homes and space to them. That's where the whole claim came from, waa shuqul faradheer.

Django-

Rahanweyn ABSOLUTELY have a historical connection to Luuq and Baardheere as Garre have to Ceel-waaq. is unfortunate what the civil war led to, but I am absolutely hopeful that a Marehan will soon enough turn a page on the civil war and open the gates to our more cultured and respectful brothers.

You guys are claiming Bakool when it is well documented that Rahanweyn may even be the majority of the Middle Jubba Region and certainly is the majority in districts like Saakoow.
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Voltage,

When Shirib speaks about D&M in Luuq, Baardheere you never saw me argue with him and try to call bullshyt. The Jubba River divided Baardheere and the Eastern Bank was Raxanwein. They always got along. The civil war came they sided with USC. When USC were kicked out by MR, there were mass reprisals against Raxanwein and a lot of their stuff was took. I hope these injustices get corrected and they get everything back. I am all for Raxanwein getting back every little thing they owned before 91 in Gedo along the Jubba River. The war is over. Whats shocking is Django, Gudhad from frigggin Gaarisa are so mentally deranged they are talking about friggin Bakool the epicenter of D&M along with Baay.
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Voltage wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:12 am Murax, nimankaan way waasheen. The reason why NO ONE responds to them about Bakool is because of how outlandish it is. It's like Habar Gidir claiming Sool because 5 Fiqi Shini families live with Dhulbahante.

There is a Majeerteen/Cumar Maxmuud guy in Seattle who used to be the governor of Bakool during Siad Barre. Somalian-Boqor knows him. Af buuxo this guy said meel la dhooban yahay "Ogaadeen hal deegaan xataa Bakool kuma lehidiin. Not only you but there is not a single non-Rahanweyn deegaan in Bakool. If you had even a single deegaan, I would be the number one person serving as witness."

The guy said Bakool was a huge Xer center and Ogaadeen/Cawlyahan being the neighbors across the border sought Quraan and sometimes grazing land during abaar. He said Rahanweyn ilaahay kama dhigin reer Mudug who will starve even their brother and would open their homes and space to them. That's where the whole claim came from, waa shuqul faradheer.

Django-

Rahanweyn ABSOLUTELY have a historical connection to Luuq and Baardheere as Garre have to Ceel-waaq. is unfortunate what the civil war led to, but I am absolutely hopeful that a Marehan will soon enough turn a page on the civil war and open the gates to our more cultured and respectful brothers.

You guys are claiming Bakool when it is well documented that Rahanweyn may even be the majority of the Middle Jubba Region and certainly is the majority in districts like Saakoow.
The way voltage is trying to throw cawliyahan history under the rag is because he wants to deny their historical presence in Gedo.

Bakool was the first entry point of Ogaden into the Jubbas which is just right away from Gobolka Afdheer which is cawliyahan proper.Cawliyahan in bakool,Gedo and Buale are dualliangual they speak both Afraxaweyn and Somali dialects they also are intermarried to Rawawen that is called integration.
Cawliyahan did not practise marexan style of systematic cleansing of their neighbours.
Cawliyahan have always had parliamentary representation in Bakool as MPs.Not appointed govonors.Wgen you bring one evidence of an MJ guy he is a biased individual I can guess because unlike MJs that used to buy votes in Bay region Cawliyahan were represented in numbers.(where are your cadan written thessis to disprove Cawliyahan settlements).Cawliyahan just like marexan were a pastrolist community unlike Raxaweyne that were settled in arable farming.Bakool is not as fertile as Middle Jubba which Cawliyahan reside.

Voltage why did MSB create Gedo?
Simply because there was no marexan settlements in middle Jubba and upper Jubba was a shared between Dir,Raxaweyn,Cawliyahan.His 21 years in power ensured that marexan migrants slowly came to settle in Gedo as the govonor of Gedo was appointed as Marexan while the district commissioner of Bardheere was appointed as marexan .Even the Qadi/muraxs grandpa was appointed as Qadi in Bardheere.Obviously there was a high presence of military soilders but apparently they were not mixed they were headed by marexan.

Cascasey was also to execute the plan in Kismaayo.To systemtically eradicate Ogaden in Kismaayo while the others from Bardheere and meet up in Afmadow.These plans were put in place way before the 1977 war.

The reason why MSB did not settle Ogaden refugees in Bakool is well know fact that he didnt want them to be neighbourly to Gedo.

The mid 80s massacre of Ogaden which was to sytematically eradicate Ogaden in the Jubbas (just like they did to raxaweyn and Garreh and Dir in Gedo was executed ogaden were not as voiceless as the others) did not work infact it did backfire and the Ogaden rebellion started which marked the end of the MSB regime.


Voltage I have caught you several times cooking up history and trying to deny the existance of Cawliyahan and also trying to vilify their struggle.I see the other point of trying to make the lower jubbas and trying to squeeze in a bogus history claimming marexan and MZ were helping each other to expand the frontier which is an outright lies.

You are a community that brroght the UNISOM operation in somalia after you burnt down Raxaweyn food galleries deliberatly in Baidoa creating the biggest humanitarian crisis in Somalia.Seems like this caught the world media attention.The farms/ land in Bardheere that marexan grabbed in the 80s belonged to Raxaweyn and Ogaden.The pretext to grab Bardheere was for the need to create a dam which was infact remove settlements and bring in more marexan immigrants from Dhusamareeb.
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Murax wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:27 am Voltage,

When Shirib speaks about D&M in Luuq, Baardheere you never saw me argue with him and try to call bullshyt. The Jubba River divided Baardheere and the Eastern Bank was Raxanwein. They always got along. The civil war came they sided with USC. When USC were kicked out by MR, there were mass reprisals against Raxanwein and a lot of their stuff was took. I hope these injustices get corrected and they get everything back. I am all for Raxanwein getting back every little thing they owned before 91 in Gedo along the Jubba River. The war is over. Whats shocking is Django, Gudhad from frigggin Gaarisa are so mentally deranged they are talking about friggin Bakool the epicenter of D&M along with Baay.
Murax unlike you we were not brought to Juboyinka by MSB. Luuq was a predominantly Dir town them disappearing into thin air explains alot of your characteristical traits also when was your granpa a qadi of Bardheere prior 1969? Idont think so.
Also me and Guhaad we dont live in Garissa.Garissa is predominatly Tolomoge and Cawliyahan.Most of these Cawliyahan were those whose Land MSB confisicated.
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Turbulence wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:10 am
Voltage wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:37 am
DalJecel60 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:23 am LaftaGareen Wuxuu ku hayo Umada Bakool Sare Haduusan Joojin Wuu Is Waynayaa
Waa Maxay waxaan
In Bakool most populated towns are Yeed,Teed,Aato,Waajid,Tiyeeglow,CeelBarde,Garasweyne
All Ogaden Majority
This is dulmi Daarood sxb. Except for a few reer Afgaab/Cawlyahan who cross the border when there is drought across the border, there is no other faradheer in Bakool except for xer Surre Dir who Qur'aanka dhigo.

Bakool is 97% Rahanweyn.
:lol: Mar aan fogeen nimankaan reer Gaarisa waxay lasoo shirtagi doonaan Baydhabo magaceedi hore wuxuu ahaa Raas Ogaden.
unukaa leh cagdheer version :lol:
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dalalos101 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:15 am
Turbulence wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:10 am
Voltage wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 12:37 am

This is dulmi Daarood sxb. Except for a few reer Afgaab/Cawlyahan who cross the border when there is drought across the border, there is no other faradheer in Bakool except for xer Surre Dir who Qur'aanka dhigo.

Bakool is 97% Rahanweyn.
:lol: Mar aan fogeen nimankaan reer Gaarisa waxay lasoo shirtagi doonaan Baydhabo magaceedi hore wuxuu ahaa Raas Ogaden.
unukaa leh ilkoyar version :lol:
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The downfall of N£N is imminent. Mark my words! there's big change on the horizon. Hold your seats turbulence times ahead.
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zidane88 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:23 am The downfall of N£N is imminent. Mark my words! there's big change on the horizon. Hold your seats turbulence times ahead.
zidane why is Cagjar pro-Mareexaan while Farmaajo is trying to destroy Madoobe in Jubaland, do you reckon the politics is much more complex than the Fadhi kudirir OG v MX narrative spewed on Snet.

many OG are rer tolkay but we are anti-Madoobe just as Iley was bad for kililka so is Madoobe bad for Jubaland.

Nabad iyo Nolol = Hope for Somalia :som: :up:
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^^

Exactly. I dare them to explain their Adeers Seeraar, Xiddig (Former JVA member) without conveniently blaming Farmaajo. Myself I have Paternal, Maternal qaraabo sitting with Madoobe. Its more complicated than simple clan. Its like the things you like you say its you, the things you hate you throw at others.


Btw don’t know what happened to Zidane, used to be macquul and reasonable once upon a time.
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Murax wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:37 am ^^

Exactly. I dare them to explain their Adeers Seeraar, Xiddig (Former JVA member) without conveniently blaming Farmaajo. Myself I have Paternal, Maternal qaraabo sitting with Madoobe. Its more complicated than simple clan. Its like the things you like you say its you, the things you hate you throw at others.


Btw don’t know what happened to Zidane, used to be macquul and reasonable once upon a time.
We dont want anything that N&N bribed to cause corruption.Just like Lafta green who has been reduced to a Provincial commisoner.
You people hated Madoobe from day one.The hate is not about him but him being Ogaden.
You fought him in 2013 it was Marexan that started the war ever since you have never supported him always been trying to bring him down.Under several Marexan PM.

Madoobe has compromised alot for marexan a clan that compromise is very alien to them.
As for Xidig if you love him this much how come marexan did not make him incharge of JVA or how come he was not second in command after Baree Hiraale.
I myself I am anti madoobe.I would like him to go but not this way.

I have come to understanfd marexan wax noma ogolo we have to ditch JL and create waamo land.Let Gedo join Konfur galbeed and be ran by lafta green.
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dalalos101 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:13 am
zidane88 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:23 am The downfall of N£N is imminent. Mark my words! there's big change on the horizon. Hold your seats turbulence times ahead.
zidane why is Cagjar pro-Mareexaan while Farmaajo is trying to destroy Madoobe in Jubaland, do you reckon the politics is much more complex than the Fadhi kudirir OG v MX narrative spewed on Snet.

many OG are rer tolkay but we are anti-Madoobe just as Iley was bad for kililka so is Madoobe bad for Jubaland.

Nabad iyo Nolol = Hope for Somalia :som: :up:
Dalalos. cagjar was against madoobe as Madoobe had close relationship with Iley. Now, Ethiopia are at cross-roads. Nobody can predict how things would pan out in the future.
Abiye is having pressure both from Amhara and Tigre to follow their way. Had "amhara and Tigre" have an agreement Oromo would be thrown under the bus. Overall, had Any two of these three, have an agreement, the other one is a toast.
As far as Mustafe is concerned, people have had a high hopes of him but he failed them, and it seems his exit is looming.

As Farmaajo is busy undermining Jubaland and Mustafe is using the silent treatment both of them are unaware of what's happening underground.
Mustafe, already, accused of harbouring terrorist organisations in the region, the likes of Al-itihad and al-shabab by both Amharas and Oromos.
Do you actually believe that OGs in Ethiopia will be spectators while Farmaajo put an embargo on Jubalanders.
Farmaajo's detestation of Jubaland made every OG to think again. Ciyaari waa gelin danbe.
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