saadaalinta murashaxa Qatar/deciphering Qatar candidate

[DalJecel60]

kacaan uu wado maskiin Farmaajo kolayba maaha Kacaan barakaysan .
Aduunka waxaa ugu daran Hogaamiye fuly ah ,
Farmaajna waa fuly .

Oo Yaa Geesi ah?

Deni miyaa ah
Madoobe Miyuu Yahay
Ina Khalif Galaydh maa ah

I fahansii ina adeee gacalise

Adeer , waxaa Geesi ah ninka qadiyad leh ,
Kuwa aad soo qortay oo dhan qadiyad maleh ,

Hadaad Aaminsantahay inay tuugta aad magacyadooda soo qortay inay ka shaqeeyan danaha reerka Daarood Ismaaciil ! ?
Adeer , if you actually believe it then I have some seaside property on the moon i want to sell you

Daacadnimadu waa heybad ilah
Inaad daacad noqotid waa wax loo baahan yahay, Laakin nin islaameed inaad u gaftid waa heybad shaydan

Nimankaas iney wada tuugo yihin ma ogid,lakin iney niman danta reer daarood ismaaciil wadaan ama wadi doonaan ilama eka.

Denina Emaaraat baa uu carfoon
Madoobana Kenya ayaa uu carfoon
Galaydhna Somaliland baa uu carfoon
Farmaajana Qatara uu carfoon

Anigana Teyda, Adigana Kaaga
Dee hala kala daneysto baaba la taagan yahay

[Voltage]

Relax, Farmaajo will be gone soon, and we will have a new president to hate on no matter what qabil he is from.

[Murax]

Hassan could've easily postponed election in 2017 as he was abgaal president in mogadishu where his clan dominates n majority of SNA are abgaal as well in banadir, lower shabelle, middle shabelle. Muusan sameyn oo nin Mareexaan buu uu dhiibay isago dastuurka xushmeynaya. Waa muhiim inaad ogtahay saaxiib.

Hassan Sheikh Mohamud didn't own the government, so how could he deny it to Farmaajo? The government is a foreign backed government, it would not last for one day if the money was cut off. No one was loyal to HSM nor did he have the resources for him to even consider denying even a jareer the leadership.

Abkow, the problem if you listen to everything opposition tells you, you will think the world is ending tomorrow. Relax, Farmaajo will be gone soon, and we will have a new president to hate on no matter what qabil he is from.

Farmaajo stayed in his lane and respected the office of the President, while HSM is acting like a hoodlum rubbing shoulders with the likes of Abdishakur, while disrespecting the office. This is out of sheer hunguri, Imaan La’aan and ‘unuka leh’ syndrome. You said it beautifully 2021 is a year away why not just be patient for one year?

[SultanOrder]

What I will never understand is how the men that brought us Cumar Cabdirashid have any face to criticize Farmaajo. Either they were wannabe dictators or it was pure and simple corruption. Sheikh Sharif was so weak and beholden to Faroole, who walked around like he was President of Somalia, that his crowning achievement was choosing Farmaajo, but the sea was sold to Kenya under his watch. Hassan Sheikh was the biggest dictator that could not get along with any of his pm's, and even though he brought the case to the ICJ, he brought back the single biggest corrupt pm we have ever had who sold the sea's to Kenya in the first place. Let's also not forget he was the biggest obstacle to Jubbaland legitimacy as President.

Let's have mucaarad, but these men have no weight other than among their corrupt ilk. Abgaal ain't going to fight and die for neither of these two.

[Murax]

What I will never understand is how the men that brought us Cumar Cabdirashid have any face to criticize Farmaajo. Either they were wannabe dictators or it was pure and simple corruption. Sheikh Sharif was so weak and beholden to Faroole, who walked around like he was President of Somalia, that his crowning achievement was choosing Farmaajo, but the sea was sold to Kenya under his watch. Hassan Sheikh was the biggest dictator that could not get along with any of his pm's, and even though he brought the case to the ICJ, he brought back the single biggest corrupt pm we have ever had who sold the sea's to Kenya in the first place. Let's also not forget he was the biggest obstacle to Jubbaland legitimacy as President.

Let's have mucaarad, but these men have no weight other than among their corrupt ilk. Abgaal ain't going to fight and die for neither of these two.

Wow. Whats funny is all that you mentioned has been shockingly romanticized as ‘building somalia’. What I’m gathering from their supporters here is the change of course of all the wonderful stuff you mention was so detrimental to Somalia that these two literally shaqo clowns were forced to ‘speak out’. Really.


I’m not even joking I will join up with any other mucaarad group as a Somali citizen, but to get behind these thirsty no xishood having bozos? Count me out, I’ll stick with N&N

[zidane88]

Both HSM and Sh Shariif had handed the power peacefully, but the new boy in town (farmaajo) seems to be doing different by:
installing head of regional-puppets
using execcessive power
ignoring the rule of law
Taking a different route than agreed
Acting as dictator
all of these and others make these former Presidents cause for concern

[Murax]

Both HSM and Sh Shariif had handed the power peacefully, but the new boy in town (farmaajo) seems to be doing different by:
installing head of regional-puppets
using execcessive power
ignoring the rule of law
Taking a different route than agreed
Acting as dictator
all of these and others make these former Presidents cause for concern

Thats a flimsy argument. As SultanOrder mentioned none od these guys including Farmaajo were there on their own power but through International mandate mechanisms. They have no choice to not ‘transfer power peacefully’. My goodness are we even discussing the same topic? We are discussing Somalia right or are we discussing Sierra Leone?

[zidane88]

Here comes the blind supporter. However you flip it the undeniable truth is that Farmaajo is using every trick in the book to stay in power.
These two former presidents used to bribe the MPs to stay in power while your beloved Farmaajo is using bribery, Killing, imprisonment, false representation of whole regions, and yet, you, and others like you, have the audacatity to come here and paint him as saint.
Come on wise up!

[SultanOrder]

Both HSM and Sh Shariif had handed the power peacefully, but the new boy in town (farmaajo) seems to be doing different by:
installing head of regional-puppets
using execcessive power
ignoring the rule of law
Taking a different route than agreed
Acting as dictator
all of these and others make these former Presidents cause for concern

Hassan sheikh installed Abdikariim Guled in Galmudug and did everything in his power to undermine Madoobe and Jubbaland.

Sharif was an equal power to Shariff Hassan and Faroole so he had no power to excercise in that regard.

What else do you have other than federal states?

[Murax]

Here comes the blind supporter. However you flip it the undeniable truth is that Farmaajo is using every trick in the book to stay in power.
These two former presidents used to bribe the MPs to stay in power while your beloved Farmaajo is using bribery, Killing, imprisonment, false representation of whole regions, and yet, you, and others like you, have the audacatity to come here and paint him as saint.
Come on wise up!

I never said he was a saint. I’m not against opposition to the job he has done, his policies, he himself, but the glamorization of previously also failed presidents as the ‘missing formula’. Then right on queue there you come ‘they transferred power peacefully, wasn’t that amazing’. As if anyone has a choice not to. I’d respect so much more if you just said ‘they wanted to come to Madoobe’s inauguration, and that made me feel warm and fuzzy inside’. I’d appreciate that so much more than 1st grade level trickery.

[zidane88]

Murax. I am not praising them, i am merely stating they're doing it for their own benefit of return to power, and having seen the way Farmaajo is behaving they kicked their campiagn earlier than anticipated. Overall we're on the same page.

Sultan-order, you've answered only 1 trait (planting puppets) what about the rest of it? killing, imprisonment? keep trying.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

I'd advise Cagdheers not to make this a MX OG situation. Wallahi, the bullets will reach Garissa.

[Murax]

Murax. I am not praising them, i am merely stating they're doing it for their own benefit of return to power, and having seen the way Farmaajo is behaving they kicked their campiagn earlier than anticipated. Overall we're on the same page.

Sultan-order, you've answered only 1 trait (planting puppets) what about the rest of it? killing, imprisonment? keep trying.

Got it bro. It is everyones right to oppose, and seeing where Somalia is there is always major room for improvement. Btw SultanOrder and myself talked against some messed up stuff N&N did. overall xaalada mafiicno and as was pointed out earlier 2021 is a year away. More time invested in development of a consensus based, promising opposition with potential is a better investment of time then former disgruntled, want their kursi back coming together.

[SultanOrder]

Murax. I am not praising them, i am merely stating they're doing it for their own benefit of return to power, and having seen the way Farmaajo is behaving they kicked their campiagn earlier than anticipated. Overall we're on the same page.

Sultan-order, you've answered only 1 trait (planting puppets) what about the rest of it? killing, imprisonment? keep trying.

Do you not remember Shabellada hoose, and how HSM armed and supported HG malitias wearing shaatiga Dawlada?

Who has Farmaajo killed or imprisoned or what laws has he broke???

[zidane88]

So, you're now denying those lost their lives in Baydhabo during Lafta-green selection. The imprisonment of Roobow, and before you call him al Shabab (think of Zakaria) high NISA offical. Janan imprisoned though courts acquited him years ago.
Are you denying now? debating with a blind-supporter like you defies logic.