Breaking News. Young Saddam is more connected than Sahal and all, Madoobe agrees to new electios

[Nubis]

Insightful.

[Voltage]

Django is reer baadiye as hell acuudi bilaah.

1. I give two shits about Farmaajo's reelection or Xamar squabbling when it comes to Jubbaland. Every man in Vla Somalia has am end date but Jubbaland is forever.

2. I give two shits if another Ogaden wins or even a Gaaljecel or something. Like Typhoon said you are in petty small zone tribal mindset when we are talking about building lasting State institutions here.

It took Sharif Sakiin from the Ashraf, who are no power even in Digil and Mirifle, to be the face of the events that brought lasting state institutions to Southwest. Now the state has fallen to their natural majority---Laysaan who sit in Baydhabo eating good from the UN as as the majority Mirifle in the land.

Yesterday you had Abdullahi Yusuf, whose Cumar Maxuud are nothing past Bayra on the border between Mudug and Nugaal, chase the Cusman Maxuud Jaamac Cali Jaamac all the way to Boosaaso and the sea. Deep in Cusman Maxuud territory, Yusufwas threatening to attack Boosaaso until Jaamc escaped in a boat. Today the Cusman Maxmuud are eating good and sitting there plump and fat from aid money from Boosaaso to their seat in Garowe.

I'm not going to talk about Hirshabelle since Sahal will derail the topic, but that state is shared by Abgaal and Xawaadle. Just think about this.

3. With regards to Marehan, at the end of the day they have the most to win since they are the majority and principal in a legitimate Jubbaland. I want a state that everyone who lives from Dollow on the Ethiopian border down to the Indian Ocean at Kismaayo gives legitimacy to. Watch the aid money flow in. There will not be a atate with more investments than Jubbaland. Mark my words.

4. Again, fock Farmaajo's reelection or Xamar retail politics.

[Voltage]

I still dont see any official reporting about this. When do you expect this to hit mainstrream?

This was highly private, back channel info. Probably they will announce it all together and save face for madoobe. Even the foreign position was very private since it would expose the faragelin we all know exists

[Voltage]

The only person who knew these things while they were going on is Saddam as evidenced by that topic he started which contained all of this a month ago.

Saddam's uncle Mohamud Sayid Adden is VP of Jubbaland so

Saddam, link that topic here

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=397633

Wallahi nin rag baa tahay, cot damn this guy knew everything

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

The only person who knew these things while they were going on is Saddam as evidenced by that topic he started which contained all of this a month ago.

Saddam's uncle Mohamud Sayid Adden is VP of Jubbaland so

Saddam, link that topic here

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=397633

Wallahi nin rag baa tahay, cot damn this guy knew everything

It's my home region. I care about it alot. I see the potential in Jubbaland. It's nothing really to get the XOG inside from my uncles haha. Anyways I had certain questions for you to analyze the post Madobe era:

Voltage,

Who you gonna believe a guy whose Ahl bayt to the region and hails from one of the most POWERFUL clans in Jubbaland or people who don't have inside info but speculate due to their political biases? Anyways, now you confirmed my news. What will be the post Jubbaland era after Madobe's tenure? We all know our homeland has been stagnated due to the political crisis. Will it be better than Konfur Galbeed that is now reborn as one of the principal FMS? We need to assess now the future of Jubbaland post Madobe era. Will be more united and thus more powerful than Puntland? As Jubbaland is more resource rich than all the FMS and the base of Darood's military wing? Questions questions!

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

This is the type of shit you share in private groups
War sida isku dhaama

[grandpakhalif]

Its a great news and will make me respect the maturity of Farmaajo and Axmed Madoobe in reaching a compromise.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

This is the type of shit you share in private groups
War sida isku dhaama

We need our own private section in here. What happened to the Sade private group?

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

This is the type of shit you share in private groups
War sida isku dhaama

We need our own private section in here. What happened to the Sade private group?

I don’t know if that group is still active but some nacas banned me because I called Yuulka dabadhilif. My petty ass could’ve banned him but he is a maskin guy.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

This is the type of shit you share in private groups
War sida isku dhaama

We need our own private section in here. What happened to the Sade private group?

I don’t know if that group is still active but some nacas banned me because I called Yuulka dabadhilif. My petty ass could’ve banned him but he is a maskin guy.

Can you unlock it? Or nah? I hate talking about our business in the open. Too many eyes.

[sahal80]

comparing Hirshabelle to JL is very very very wrong. you can compare PL to Galmudug since they r one subclan dominated aka HG and MJ its also wrong to compare maxamuud saleebaan to kismaayo. Abdullahi husuf had the ethiopian backing and cusman and cumar agreed garowe the land of ciise maxamuud to be the capital as middleground. all generals and SSDF hailed from cumar maxamuud and boqoro from cusman maxamuud. in war the generals win.

Hirshaelle is made up of two subclans;Abgaal and hawadle who have no land disputes and are not political rivals. in USC hawadle controlled jowhar for 3 years when they were allied with caydiid. hawadle left jowhar with small skirmish with mahmed dheere suddenly Abgaal hegemony extended from balcad and kaaraan to matabaan! ali mahdi visited baladweyne and said "hawadle are our strategic depth" also warsangali abgaal of jowhar are maternally hawadle so traditional abgaals refuse any abgaal hiraabist like garguurte to sideline hawadle bc if we go back to qabiil days they will lose hiiraan and jowhar for HG if we become HG allies like it was under ceydiid so hawadle and abgaal are like kablakah where mj dominate the federal govt and OG jubbaland. abgaal dominate the federal govt and hawadle Hirshabelle. abgaal being somali president or not has nothing to do with hawadle being hirshabelle president this is not baryo its based on political coalition and hiiraan being bigger than jowhar. but if we go for villa somalia we may clash like MJ refused halane as OG pm. we think hirshabelle is more important for us than the baqtyo nasiib based villa somalia.

[Mk777]

comparing Hirshabelle to JL is very very very wrong. you can compare PL to Galmudug since they r one subclan dominated aka HG and MJ its also wrong to compare maxamuud saleebaan to kismaayo. Abdullahi husuf had the ethiopian backing and cusman and cumar agreed garowe the land of ciise maxamuud to be the capital as middleground. all generals and SSDF hailed from cumar maxamuud and boqoro from cusman maxamuud. in war the generals win.

Hirshaelle is made up of two subclans;Abgaal and hawadle who have no land disputes and are not political rivals. in USC hawadle controlled jowhar for 3 years when they were allied with caydiid. hawadle left jowhar with small skirmish with mahmed dheere suddenly Abgaal hegemony extended from balcad and kaaraan to matabaan! ali mahdi vitied baladweyne and said "hawadle are our strategic depth. also warsangali abgaal of jowhar are maternally hawadle so traditional abgaals refuse any abgaal hiraabist like garguurte to sideline hawadle bc if we go back to qabiil days they will lose hiiraan and jowhar for HG if we become HG allies like it was under ceydiid so hawadle and abgaal are like kablakah where mj dominate the federal govt and OG jubbaland. abgaal dominate the federal govt and hawadle Hirshabelle. abgaal being somali president or not has nothing to do with hawadle being hirshabelle president this is not baryo its based on political coalition and hiiraan being bigger than jowhar. but if we go for villa somalia we may clash like MJ refused halane as OG pm. we think hirshabelle is more ompoetant for us than the baqtyo nasiib based villa somalia.

This is nonsense. Remember when the tfg were based in jowhar in 2007 this was their proposed seat arrangement we told them to F off.
Governor
Hawadle (Ali Madaxweine sub-clan)
Vice Governors
Jijeele and Gaalje’el (Abtisame sub-clan)
Regional Military Commander
Gaalje’el (Abtisame sub-clan)
Regional Police Commander
Gaalje’el (Sugow sub-clan)
Regional Court
Gaalje’el (Abtisame sub-clan)
Belet Wein District Commissioner
Hawadle (Abdalla sub-clan)
Vice Commissioner
Ujeejeen
Head of the Local Government
Hawadle (Aqoon sub-clan)
Vice Head of the Local Government
Makanne

The icu who ran hiiraan were either gaaljeel or gugundhabe. Xawadle decided to ally itself with ethopia and this was how they were able to capture the bari of hiiraan as well as beledweyne and how al shabaab when they splintered from ICU managed to capture the galbeed. The main road that goes to xamar goes past luau jeelow and is on our sideRemember, hiiraan is the 1 state that has still not been divided since Somalia gained independence. Does JL have 13 saransoor or jareer or gugundhabe seats. Truth be told hirshabelle is more fragile than jubaland. It will inevitably split in a few years or so, once the lands are free of AS. JL will be led by either MX or OG for the foreseeable future, whilst the natives claim they are ciise muxumed or cismaan maxamuud.

[sahal80]

suddenly the gaaljecel guy comes from no where
give me the names of the gugundhabe leader of the ICU hiiraan?

al shabaab and maxaakimta and hisbul islaam knew the tribal structure of hiiraan so three of them had hawadle amiirs? hisbul islam shuuriye, al shabaab yusuf ugaas, maxaalimta shiikh farah macalim mahamuud who h
got captured by the ethiopians and was succeeded by sh macow another hawadle. after al shabaab internal war in wich al afhani was killed and roobow splitted and dahir aways fled to cadaado there was split in hiiraan and ceelbuur so godana appointed hassan yaqquub a hadaamo eelaay for galgaduud. he was the last waaliga kismaayo. and hiiraan for mohamed mire a mx bc he doesnt trust the locals. you guys are pro al shabab for nothing.


https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2007/jan/w ... a8-550.htm


hey stop following me evety where with your false bari and galbeed narrative i have made a thread for you in hiiraan section exposong your bari lies hawadle are more than you in galbeed bc they have xaafad on their own atleast 90%(buundowayn) while you have waaxda heegan not even xaafada hawlwadaag wich is shared by all non hawadles mainly haalnecel and nineele and jareer and hawaadle too in the pockets one of them adjacent to liiqliiqato from the galbeed side.
seriously stop following me with your hiirasn bullshit i know you chsnge the topic if you are a man answer wich was the gugundhabe leader for maxaakimta hiiraan or al shabaab or hisbul islaam or dawlada? if you cant

[Mk777]

suddenly the gaaljecel guy comes from no where
give me the names of the gugundhabe leader of the ICU hiiraan?

al shabaab and maxaakimta and hisbul islaam knew the tribal structure of hiiraan so three of them had hawadle amiirs? hisbul islam shuuriye, al shabaab yusuf ugaas, maxaalimta shiikh farah macalim mahamuud who h
got captured by the ethiopians and was succeeded by sh macow another hawadle. after al shabaab internal war in wich al afhani was killed and roobow splitted and dahir aways fled to cadaado there was split in hiiraan and ceelbuur so godana appointed hassan yaqquub a hadaamo eelaay for galgaduud. he was the last waaliga kismaayo. and hiiraan for mohamed mire a mx bc he doesnt trust the locals. you guys are pro al shabab for nothing.


https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2007/jan/w ... a8-550.htm


hey stop following me evety where with your false bari and galbeed narrative i have made a thread for you in hiiraan section exposong your bari lies hawadle are more than you in galbeed bc they have xaafad on their own atleast 90%(buundowayn) while you have waaxda heegan not even xaafada hawlwadaag wich is shared by all non hawadles mainly haaland nineele and jareer and hawaadle too in the pockets one of them adjacent to liiqliiqato from the galbeed side.
seriously stop following me with your hiirasn bullshit i know you chsnge the topic if you are a man answer wich was the gugundhabe leader for maxaakimta hiiraan or al shabaab or hisbul islaam or dawlada? if you cant

Firstly xasan yacquub is doqondiid. Secondly, there is a few leaders I’m sure u know these guys have many emirs all called abu x abu y iyo abu z . As for beledweyne,
“The Governor of Hiran, the District Commissioner of Belet Weyne and the administrative offices are located on the eastern Hawadle side of Belet Weyne. There is another administration on the western Galje'el side of the town. Since August 2000, the two groups have functioned more- or-less separately and occasionally come together.”
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/f ... rights.pdf

Can u explain this? I can get 5-10 other sources if u need . Galbeedka there is caafi abtisame and dirisame no such thing as xawadle. Lol hirshabelle is 3 years old, we have gudomiyaha degmada beledweyne and a speaker whilst our land is all in the hands of shabaab. What do u think will happen when all the land that stretches to Bali doogle is free from al shabaab. Hirshabelle will not work 110%. Every thread I see which claims false outlandish hiiraan statistics Or claims I will respond to . A new state west hiran state will be formed inshalah bi idnilaahi kariim

[sahal80]

this guy is a waste of time you claimed maxawkimta hiiraan led by gugundhabe and now you cant name one?

this is what i hate pls stop quoting me next time just to derail the thread ok i hsve no time for your bullshit if wanna chslkenge me go to hiirasn section dont follow me around when im talking somaliwayn now bye

what 2000? your now under the baladweyne mayor and gudoomiyaha hiiraan and hirshsbelle president.

hasssn yacquub is mirifle nor sure what he is after some sau hadaamo some say laysaan.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/waajid.w ... diyay/amp/


al shabaab changed this leader bc he is pro hawadle and loyal to the Ugaas. he let the officials and people go to Halgan to bury ugaas abdirahan in daaro ugaas cemetery in Halgan. as he is moderate he was close to the likes of robbow. . yusuf us the nephew of the ugaas. mire is a marehan, he help is defeat al shabaab


"Several days later, al-Shabaab officials also denied reports that its governor of the Hiraan region, Muhammad Mire, and another senior official and the region’s former insurgent governor, Yusuf Ali Ugaas, were killed in these airstrikes"