Dahir Jesow and many officials deserted Farmaajo!

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Re: Dahir Jesow and many officials deserted Farmaajo!

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This guy said "Grandpa noo kala garqaad." It reminds me of the saying NIN BUKO BOQOL U TALI. :lol:

What about my statement "all" Somalis seem to be confused about this election issue was too hard to understand. It's nothing personal against Grandpa or you or anyone else. I saw HarunMaruf trying to remark it and it was apparent this was new information to him.

Sxb there was a time I was interested in going to Law School and took a lot of elective classes and seminars. I am also generally fascinated by people and society and constantly update my knowledge.

Majority of the Somali people do not even understand the terminology like "proportional representation" (PR) and "first past the post (FPTP)." Others, like yourself, who recently came across it in the news display confusion beyond surface definition.

For example, you seem completely confused between a close list PR and open list PR.

If 4.5 is the political mechanism to allocate seats, then by nature you cannot hace a closed list PR. It is just impossible; it is like oil and water mixing.

Yet someone told you Farmaajo is pushing closed list PR AS IF THAT IS POSSIBLE when the existence of 4.5 HAS ALREADY ALLOCATED the seats?

Whoever told you that doesn't understand the issue as well.

This sort of thing happens when you are motivated by an agenda. The agenda manifests in many ways but it is the same thing; Farmaajo is losing so everything that seems to be moving forward make it at the expense of him----to reinforce the perception he is losing.

1. If Farmaajo (as Head of State) doesn't go to an international conference that is more appropriate for the Prime Minister (as Head of Government) --------------- oh wow Kheyre is now the face of the government as Farmaajo is now completely lame duck.
2. If he does go to it --------------- oh wow must be running from Mogadishu Uprising.
3. Abshir Bukhaari pointlessly walks around Kismaayo --------------- oh wow soon a Motion will be in Parliament which is also being paid by "some" donors
4. Farmaajo officially supports 1 man/1man which is his official mandate as it was Hassan Sheekh's as well being the official mandate for the Electoral Commission and the UN/Donorate --------------- oh wow he must fear 4.5
5. The ENTIRE Somali cabinet headed by the PM endorse, vote on, and forward to the President the recommendation of Proportional Representation (which is how the overwhelming majority of the world govern after the success in post-War Germany as the most balanced mechanism to prevent something like Hitler and Nazis seizing power) which Farmaajo then forwards for Parliamentary approval and after Parliament does not like the idea --------------- oh wow everyone has turned against Farmaajo trying to crown himself.
6. Some has been opposition members get in front of a camera --------------- oh wow Mogadishu Spring will happen tomorrow

It is kind of pathetic at this point.

Also, because of the embarassing failure of Madasha/opposition to stay relevant, you no longer have an entity to symbolizing the side winning to your agenda of making it seem Farmaajo is losing.

This is where Kheyre comes in.

Your usage of Kheyre is called a "foil" in English. It means something to use as a comparison to set off against your agenda against Farmaajo.

This is why you guys are embarrassing yourselves by trying to talk about the election issues like you guys are in elementary school. You aren't interested in the subject or what it really means; it's just an expedient SOMETHING to use as a new factor to continue the long-running agenda of trying to delegitimize Farmaajo.
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Though his writings are top-notch clean like an established academic, still Sahal comes the top in real politicking .Even the emotional Grandpa noted that .Let more replies happen in this thread as l am closely looking into your discourse :lol:
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Atleast Voltage knows his shit..can’t say the same about someone who share with us what he heard from a guy on Facebook lol
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Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 6:07 am Atleast Voltage knows his shit..can’t say the same about someone who share with us what he heard from a guy on Facebook lol
facebook connects people of the same careers ,hobbies or even having simliar talents .If only you have figured out the right way to use facebook ,you wouldn't dissed the best of all social platforms.

personally l use facebook to connect with somali poets , historians as well as academics .Those that l share with my geerars,gabayo and academc discourses. Simply put, Facebook is so amazing when you gear it towards the attainment of career goals .

l usually log into to somnet to surf useful items in the archives .Somnet that never fails to enrich me with new valuable info regarding somali culture ,history and their tribe based politics and that has a lot to do with my career path .With my former name , l also pertook some of the greatest threads in Somnet and that's a milestone l achieved regardless of how l performed in those threads .I was feared by all Iidoors except their ultimate cyber warrior ,the guy who knew how to upset his opponents with repetitive stuffs and memes


Voltage and bendover are great duo .Their epic clashes produced some research induced cyberwars :lol: both are legends which is why l am usually around in any thread they pertake to witness the battle .Regarding this thread, with all due respect , while acknowledging his ability to write better than most of snnetters , Sahal outplays him in the current political affairs of Somalia .The sahal is an anarchist hutu but he the dude effectively represents the anti-Farmajo crew here in somnet with his never ending fresh gossips
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Seedyare wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:21 am Though his writings are top-notch clean like an established academic, still Sahal comes the top in real politicking .Even the emotional Grandpa noted that .Let more replies happen in this thread as l am closely looking into your discourse :lol:
kkk Voltage is detached from reality he doesnt know shit about Somali politics so he resorted into a westren perspective! waana madax adagyahay and very delusional he believes that Farmaajo will be elected again kkk

Granpa waa nin wadanka ku nool oo waaqaca soomaaliyeed la socda mida kale he is not typical reer mudug ku qabso wax walbe ama facaa iska dhici. denying the truth is immoral.

my friend fuck propotional represantion how they wanna do it in Somalia is called matalaad isku dheelitiran tgis means each gobol or state to have the same numbers say for example 300k each state so "5 million can vote for it" wich is not working and the worst they wanted to do this in Xamar that has 3 million!

this is what they call "haldeegaan doorasho" wich mean xamar not maamulada. see goobjoog link. very clear?


https://goobjoog.com/doorashada-2020-10 ... -gudaheed/

if we do things this way(150k each gobo or 300k each state) we dont know wjat is the share of minorities here cause they gonna come from big clans some minorities dont even live in their claimed regions like rerow hassan, some minorities left their regions like yaxar ang galgale they gone to PL and were given new names like yahye salah and nuux maxamuud this is why khadijo who is yaxar refuses to be voted by her people who got lost now. now they changed the things(gudiga doorashada led by halimo yareey who is HG lady working for farmaajo) like fiqi said she travelled with him to america! independent my ass!

now since gudiga baarlamaanka rejected their planA they come up with a planB and here how it goes; mp will go back to their regions based on 4.5 system for example like their attack dog goodah says hawadle have 10 mps 10 of them should be voted "by the people" representing political parties. secondly it wont be held only in kismayo or jowhar or garowe their will be also stations in gedo and hiiraan and bari and sanaag!!

all this to fake the elections and avoid the regional capitals wich is under the control of the local government


"Xildhibaan Goodax Barre oo ku hadlaayey afka Xoogaga wadaniyiinta ayaa yiri..

"Tobankeeni xildhibaan ee N&N ayaa Baladweyne tagi doona oo dood dheer kadib sidaas lagusoo dooran".

Waa yaabe aaway dadki kale?




this is why these qabiilist kids want xoogaga qabiiliyiinta voting! kulaha farmaajo is popular among the shacbi!!





im out of this thread getting ready for the next topic. now going to some shopping and home work. see ya!
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Re: Dahir Jesow and many officials deserted Farmaajo!

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sahal80 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:10 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:51 pm
sahal80 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:46 pm
:dead: last year dadku runbadanaa looks like their prices has skyrocketed :ohhh:
Eebow walahi I'm enjoying this show.
im hearing big big big Farmaajo kheyre khilaaf waa ku kala tageen before kheyre gone to qatar. this is the first time they reached this stage they always used to tanaasul for eachother. main khilaaf point is about qaabka doorashada kheyre insists to be done in the old way. as Farmaajo knows he has no chance in this way he said to kheyre "hadaad diido dee meesha wax nooyaala maba leh" wich means we cant work together. wait till social media discovers this ; madaxwaynaha oo sheegay rasulwasaaraha lama shaqayn karo.

there was today shir between murursade and hawadle people like ali abdullahi osoble and dhuxulow hawadle said "warnimayahow mucaarad idinumanihin maxaa lugta hiiraan ugu dhegan tihiin" wich means the italian flood project and others . dhuxulow said "he is gonna tell kheyre" to accelerate projects for Hiiraan. wax yar "aa dawladeena" u hartey hawadlow hiraab ha raacina kkkk
It looks like kheire got it under control. Farmaajo cant oust kheire too ileen sanad qura lee harsan
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Insightful.
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