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Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:39 am
by grandpakhalif
Keep deleting my posts f-king bah hutu.

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:19 am
by Murax
Out of the near 40 Marexaan clans Wagardhac, Reer Xassan are the ones I respect the most (Along with my Ugaasyo Abtiyaal lol)


Wagardhac, Reer Xassan are like nations who I observed even amongst Non-Marexaan garner the most respect and fear. Viva Wagardhac, Reer Xassan.

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:36 pm
by dalalos101
XHKS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:09 am
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:51 pm
Voltage wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:56 pm Adali-

I neither slandered nor disrespected; what I did was touch you with a small part of dabkaad adigayo Grandpa holaciisa Mareexaan maalin walba ku qabataan.

For example, my statement about Gaani (AUN) was not a personal slander per se. Someone familiar with Mareexaan dacaayad would have known immediately. By that I mean, Mareexaan always say dawlada Majeerteen musuqmaasuq baa dumisay, dawlada Mareexaana DHILAYSI. I don't know if you know, but anytime Mareexaan wants to make a comparison using a Sade personality during the Siad government, they always GURI DHILUU ku jiray. So that wasn't a slander that was personal or unique to Gaani.

The whole point of even bringing him up (and which you apparently seem to take issue with when done against you) was because you and Grandpa constantly engage in denying OWNERSHIP/LAHAANSHO to reer Caabudwaaq who are NOT bah-Ogaadeen. You have constantly done it to Wagardhac and your post that garnered that response from me was an escalation with you essentially including Hawlraarsame, Celi, and Habar Ciise. Who da fock is left but bah-Ogaadeen. Reer Siyaad Xussein baad beerlaxowsataan but that's because reer Siyaad Xussein are the only clan to the east of Caabudwaaq until Xananbuuro. There is no way to exclude them realistically without blatantly being a bah-Ogaadeenist. All the other clans waxaad ku gaban kartaan they are West towards Ethiopia INCLUDING YOU to be honest.

There is nothing worse than denying ownership to people and especially to things they are entitled to. Our entire country is in war and we all know that's because they want the ownership due to them; ownership over representation, rights, land, etc.

Sxb, just because bah-Ogaadeen is the biggest, doesn't mean Habar Ciise or Celi or Wagardhac are any less reer Caabudwaaq. If I own a house on a block and you do and at some point your uncles and cousins and relatives start buying other houses on the block, does that mean I am no longer "reer Block" because there is more of you? Wtf; that is so insulting and actually focking degrading coming from another Mareexaan. Hadaad tiro ku faanto, tirada ilaahay baa bixiyo lakin no Mareexaan is any less "reer Caabudwaaq" than bah-Ogaadeen ESPECIALLY qabiilo whom we all recognize are AS A COMMUNITY are through and through reer Caabudwaaq.

I am reer Siyaad; we are not as a community part of Caabudwaaq's history and fabric or say Beled-Xaawo. I would still find it troubling that I, as another Mareexaan, would ever been denied the ability to call myself reer Caabudwaaq or Beled-Xaawo if that's where I chose to live.

I would find it even more troubling, even unfathomable, possibly even a declaration of war, if that denial was towards people who AS A COMMUNITY have been part of Caabudwaaq and Beled-Xaawo's history and fabric and in fact, that's essentially Gedo had a 12 year war after Al Itihad when reer Axmed and reer Xassan kicked each other out of Dollow and Luuq and Hawlraarsame finally said enough, I am not going to be invisible anymore in Beled-Xaawo (where they may even be able to compete with Cali Dheere in numbers there).

So dude, I brought up the history of Caabudwaaq where the communities you maligned had an outsized role. Col Faarax Baasiin WAS the leader of the resistance. Saying that and broadening the history of Caabudwaaq by including people YOU have excluded was not intended to exclude YOU. I never said rer Dalal didn't die or defend. I let you they were not the only one.

Gaani was the most prominent Dalal general I could think of and the comparison used about him was a generic Marexaan dacaayad for all Mareexaan who were in Siad's gov. It was nothing personal.

As for Farmaajo and Shirdoon; I have nothing but profound respect for both and will defend them to the very end, but I have said nothing different than Grandpa or you have said or I haven't enumerated a million times. It's also not even something personal to them. All Mareexaan leadership has that annoying dabeecad. I have said time and time again, the biggest thing I admire about Majeerteen is THEY GET THEIR SHIT; they don't give a hoot what others think. If they could, they would take all the vaults in The Central Bank and take it to Garowe. Waa niman rag ah.

Ina adeer. This what i implied by these kids don't know what the costs of war were for us. To be completely honest and harsh towards Reer Dalal. I never heard of them fighting any clan. Shit they aren't as well known as amongst MX Konfuurta as Reer Siyaad and Reer Ugaas Shermarke and Reer Kooshin. To be completely and brutally blunt, I don't think Reer Dalal would survive in Gedo with that attitude. They would be karbaashed by non Reer Diini clans as they would be outnumbered. It goes back to my quote of the old Reer Khalaf oday, they don't know the costs of being surrounded by non MX on all borders such as Garre, Rahanweyn, Degodiya and OG. Who ALL want your head off. Add to the fact you have a hostile neighboring country who views you as a security threat Thus, supporting a rival clan to ethnically cleanse you.These kids waa Ciyaal say wallahi. I don't know internal MX politics of Galbeed iyo Mudug. Laakin as you are nin Reer Siyaad ah. You know they'll scream Reer Farax Ugaas and Reer Xuseen Yusuf to save their lives in Gedo. You seen how odayasha Reer Ahmed reacted to Janan's arrest. Probably Ina Taano told Farmaajo to tread easily. They didn't have other MX putting up isbaro for numerous years with foreign countries arming the rival factions. To us, MX unity is a MUST not a idea. We have too many enemies not to follow danta guud.

:wow:
:up: madax timo riiman, marexaan Gedo riiman

saddam marexaanka mudug are surrounded by enemies too but most are in galbeed, but they are moving to cabudwaaq
in numbers, the rise of celi in mudug is one of the significant events in post civil war mudug

reer Gedo have a frontier mentality, they are pioneers but in mudug people have old europe mentality, waxay isku qabsadan wax aan qiimo lahayn, while jubalanders waxay isku qabsaan ya noqonaya, the master of the two rivers dawa and juba and who shall adminster the Indian ocean

reer jubaland want to create a texas, california and colorado while nortern somalis fight over meesha geela reer jubaland ku xaari jirey before the great migration, that is in essence the difrrence between, reer jubaland, reer koonfurgalbeed, reer hirshabelle vs northen somalis beyond beledwayne


adali :up: reer siyaad and reer dalal both are no angels there is allot of blame to go around, lakin marexaanwayne needs to be respected

grandpa, ninyahow weedkaga ma iska cabtid, ileen reer dalal aa marexaan wax kama taqanid ee
cali amanreer did the same as what reer dalal did :o

seefta marexaan qortada bay saaraan tahay but you just can see it
Herr Eaglehawk, Afar Waaxood, is anti-Dalal because it says Hawrarsame and Habar Ciise should be accommodated at the expense of Rer Dalal. Let me take you down memory lane horta so you get why I am saying this is direct and shameful attack on us.

I start with Adan Low, we all know about him, a Somali war hero, pioneer, politician philanthropist etc etc, read the book about him.

He lobbied Mareexaan Mudug to join SYL and succeeded when he secured all 3 seats in Dhusamareb, then part of Mudug region.
1960s
1. Himself Adan Low Rer Dalal
2. Sh. Maxameed Xuseen faruur Wagardhac
3. Sh. Ina Cabdille Cadde Celi" Rer Awmaxamuud"

Adan Low select Celi who did not live in Somalia as a clan at the time, Wagardhac who had closer proximity to Gaalkacyo than Dhusamareb, this is robust politics of including Mareexaan weyn to be a viable stakeholder on the regional and national level, without 4.5, census or any obligation, we accommodated our cousins and took all 3 seats of the town , a town that was not only majority Rer Diini but majority Rer Dalal as well as its eastern settlements, why because its longsighted politics.

1969
1. Adan Low Rer Dalal
2. Cali Shire Rer Koshin
3. Mahad Dirir Rer Siyaad

this was the election just before the coup by the Kacaan, you can see this elections explains the demographics of Dhusamareb and its proximity more accurately, Celi and Wagardhac started to do their own thing lobbying in Gaalkacyo, they lost there mainly due to Wagardhac and Celi grew complacent and arrogant with the advent of rapid modernity, they formed their seperate political units prematurely and aggressively separated to lobby on their own, this was at a time when it was Celi, Wagardhac and Rer Dalal who were political elites of Mareexaan Mudug, but Majerteen monopoly was nationwide at the time and no more so than Gaalkacyo so they were tricked into something and set up for failure.

for 9 years, Adan Low build Garbala motor well in Caabudwaaq for Rer Dalal Geeljire making it grow as a settlement, he opened schools, he allowed many Mareexaan from mudug access to formal education, he continued his politics of inclusion of Mareexaan weyn, to mention one there was a Rer Siyaad Xussen military officer who he was helping to become the underling of Mudug governor a position held by Ibrahim qadiid Ogaden, Adan Low also helped tolka with student visas abroad, he opened his doors to his own home in Mogadishu for the tol who had aspirations in business, academics, politics, the two Bah Hawiye Rer Koshin and Rer Siyaad were brought in as MPs for the first time in 1969 another successful acquisition of all the seats in Dhusamareb for Mareexaan and a policy of accommodation and inclusion still after being betrayed by those we help.

But all that work was halted when the Kacaan was born same year, and policies of Kacaan is known and lets just say not exactly beneficial to Mareexaan, it also ended the freedom that propelled Mareexaan progress with the advent of socialism, free borders, no development in Mareexaan regions etc etc

Post civil war 4.5 system
Mareexaan as a whole gets a mere 14 MPs

Rer Dalal regain the 1 seat we democratically and legitimately held since the formation of Somali state.
because its clan based now Wagardhac, Celi no longer have to deal with party politics of Majerten dominated SYL and thus also regained the MP seats they held for 9 years.
Rer Siyaad and Rer Koshin who held a seat pre-Kacaan for under a year got 1 seat each, with the addition of Rer Ugaas Sharmaake making it a total of 3 Bah Hawiye seats and of course rest of the seats were allocated to other Mareexaan according to agreement in Djibouti/Kenya during transitional governments up until now those seats have not changed with 1 exception, and you don't have to guess if you followed information..

the only difference being we as rotate our MP seat among Bah Ogaden, Rer Dalal held it Gaani's son. Rer Xirsi held it, now its Rer Maxamuud Gulled holding it. So even as we come out of Kacaan that was against us, the Kacaans enemies who were against us, we accommodate and are the only Mareexaan subclan to rotate seat albeit only within Bah Ogaden.

While Rer Siyaad, Rer Koshin, Rer Ugaas Sharmaake have not shared their seat with anyone, they are all Bah Hawiye 3 seats, they don't even sharing it with other Bah Hawiye forget about Mareexaan weyn.

Today Afar Waaxood is saying we should share that 1 seat even more, and include Hawrarsame and Habar Ciise.

the question begs, why is there anti-Rer Dalal resentment when we do not have MP, we gave it to Rer Xirsi and now Rer Maxamuud Gulled, while Bah Hawiye have now 3 seats, they do not rotate to other Bah Hawiye like Rer Warsame, Rer Nuur, Rer Shirwac ? forget Mareexaanweyn.

conclusion bad politics is bad politics, and I like to rest my case with this. Afar Waaxood is not only an injustice, it created real divisions politically in a time where we cannot afford to be divided, case in point Galmudug, Mareexaan has in the Galmudug parliament only 16 seats while Habar Gidir has 32, stop with the distractions of Afar Waaxood, we will never accept being cannibalized after we have shared our home, our food because of politically inept fools who put on a suit. Call it arrogance, call it xasid but everything I said was based on facts not emotions or fictions.

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:05 pm
by Voltage
Adali-

You have repeated this so let me correct;

1. Afar Waaxood IS NOT NEW. Again, afar waaxood IS NOT NEW.

Listen, Mareexaan are like all other Somalis who are under historical ignorance. Mareexaan, AS WELL AS YOU, do not even understand what the "Dhusamareeb" seats were. This is a topic I want to present on a larger scale, so I won't address that now, but essentially many Mareexaan are ignorant about historical artifacts.

Afar Waxood has existed for almost a half century. Forget the 60's "democratic" elections, but the way Mareexaan organized under the Italian trusteeships, the way they shared clan spoils at the national level, the way clan nominated posts shared responsibility, etc was based on Afar Waxood.

That's how clan Parliament seats have been shared in Carta,in Embagathi, and even now.

2. I DO NOT SUPPORT AFAR WAXOOD. I AM NOT AGAINST IT EITHER.

Afar Waxood does not concern me either.

Saying Afar Waxood has been the system in place as a historical fact is not lobbying. I just find the statement from reer Dalal that this is new incredulous.

Say you are desiring change, but do not lie about history. Reer Dalal has never opposed Afar Waxood until now. It has always been CELI AND REER SIYAAD XUSSEIN calling to abolish it.

3. Marehan has two different geographies and political dispensation.

Afar Waxood is how Marehan Mudug share their section of the national Marehan spoils after dividing it with Marehan Gedo.

Marehan Gedo has a different way of sharing their section which is a mixture of DISTRICTS (Caabudwaaq is 1 district, but Gedo has 6) and XAAL (for example Faqi Yacquub is not any bigger than many other sub-clans who sometimes do not find representation but as XAAL Faqi Yacquub is ALWAYS given an MP).

Again, I am not pro or against Afar Waxood. Change it if you want but I am saying I hope what is gotten is better and can keep the peace.

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:21 pm
by Voltage
Also I don't know why you are utilizing the Mudug phenomenon "Bah-Hawiye" at the national level as if there is equality between Bah Ogaadeen and Bah Hawiye at the national level.

In Mudug, yes. At the national level probably the opposite to be honest (Bah Xawaadle vs Baho Diini). So by utilizing "Bah-Hawiye" you know the effect is coming for Bah Daarandoole's seat.

At the national level sxb, reer Diini waa sedex bahood so use that.

Bah Daarandoole waxeeda ayadaa lehe halkaas u dhig, but I agree with you about Bah Xawaadle.

Bah-Xawaadle should get ONE KURSI. ONE SINGLE KURSI and let reer Ugaas Sher and reer Siyaad and reer Warsame learn to share.

The headache with this is while bah Ogaadeen is all in one district (Caabudwaaq), the 3 Bah Xawaadle clans are primarily in 3 DIFFERENT DISTRICTs


Reer Ugaas Sher (Baardheere)
Reer Siyaad (Garbahaaray)
Reer Warsame (Balanbale)

It's a logistical anomaly, but this is also where Afar Waxood came in for Marehan Mudug which said reer Warsame as an example is not without representation because he also comes under the same constituency as Bah-Daarandoole (Waaxda Bah Hawiye whose seat is always given to reer Kooshin).

At the VERY LEAST Reer Ugas Shermarke and reer Siyaad should share ONE seat.

The problem is they let this go in Embagathi. I remember it was a continuously ongoing issue with the seat reer Ugaas Shermaarke ended up taking

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:33 pm
by Murax
Warya Voltage stop coming for my Abtiyaal’s seat you know they’re not having it :russ:

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:10 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
XHKS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:09 am
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:51 pm
Voltage wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:56 pm Adali-

I neither slandered nor disrespected; what I did was touch you with a small part of dabkaad adigayo Grandpa holaciisa Mareexaan maalin walba ku qabataan.

For example, my statement about Gaani (AUN) was not a personal slander per se. Someone familiar with Mareexaan dacaayad would have known immediately. By that I mean, Mareexaan always say dawlada Majeerteen musuqmaasuq baa dumisay, dawlada Mareexaana DHILAYSI. I don't know if you know, but anytime Mareexaan wants to make a comparison using a Sade personality during the Siad government, they always GURI DHILUU ku jiray. So that wasn't a slander that was personal or unique to Gaani.

The whole point of even bringing him up (and which you apparently seem to take issue with when done against you) was because you and Grandpa constantly engage in denying OWNERSHIP/LAHAANSHO to reer Caabudwaaq who are NOT bah-Ogaadeen. You have constantly done it to Wagardhac and your post that garnered that response from me was an escalation with you essentially including Hawlraarsame, Celi, and Habar Ciise. Who da fock is left but bah-Ogaadeen. Reer Siyaad Xussein baad beerlaxowsataan but that's because reer Siyaad Xussein are the only clan to the east of Caabudwaaq until Xananbuuro. There is no way to exclude them realistically without blatantly being a bah-Ogaadeenist. All the other clans waxaad ku gaban kartaan they are West towards Ethiopia INCLUDING YOU to be honest.

There is nothing worse than denying ownership to people and especially to things they are entitled to. Our entire country is in war and we all know that's because they want the ownership due to them; ownership over representation, rights, land, etc.

Sxb, just because bah-Ogaadeen is the biggest, doesn't mean Habar Ciise or Celi or Wagardhac are any less reer Caabudwaaq. If I own a house on a block and you do and at some point your uncles and cousins and relatives start buying other houses on the block, does that mean I am no longer "reer Block" because there is more of you? Wtf; that is so insulting and actually focking degrading coming from another Mareexaan. Hadaad tiro ku faanto, tirada ilaahay baa bixiyo lakin no Mareexaan is any less "reer Caabudwaaq" than bah-Ogaadeen ESPECIALLY qabiilo whom we all recognize are AS A COMMUNITY are through and through reer Caabudwaaq.

I am reer Siyaad; we are not as a community part of Caabudwaaq's history and fabric or say Beled-Xaawo. I would still find it troubling that I, as another Mareexaan, would ever been denied the ability to call myself reer Caabudwaaq or Beled-Xaawo if that's where I chose to live.

I would find it even more troubling, even unfathomable, possibly even a declaration of war, if that denial was towards people who AS A COMMUNITY have been part of Caabudwaaq and Beled-Xaawo's history and fabric and in fact, that's essentially Gedo had a 12 year war after Al Itihad when reer Axmed and reer Xassan kicked each other out of Dollow and Luuq and Hawlraarsame finally said enough, I am not going to be invisible anymore in Beled-Xaawo (where they may even be able to compete with Cali Dheere in numbers there).

So dude, I brought up the history of Caabudwaaq where the communities you maligned had an outsized role. Col Faarax Baasiin WAS the leader of the resistance. Saying that and broadening the history of Caabudwaaq by including people YOU have excluded was not intended to exclude YOU. I never said rer Dalal didn't die or defend. I let you they were not the only one.

Gaani was the most prominent Dalal general I could think of and the comparison used about him was a generic Marexaan dacaayad for all Mareexaan who were in Siad's gov. It was nothing personal.

As for Farmaajo and Shirdoon; I have nothing but profound respect for both and will defend them to the very end, but I have said nothing different than Grandpa or you have said or I haven't enumerated a million times. It's also not even something personal to them. All Mareexaan leadership has that annoying dabeecad. I have said time and time again, the biggest thing I admire about Majeerteen is THEY GET THEIR SHIT; they don't give a hoot what others think. If they could, they would take all the vaults in The Central Bank and take it to Garowe. Waa niman rag ah.

Ina adeer. This what i implied by these kids don't know what the costs of war were for us. To be completely honest and harsh towards Reer Dalal. I never heard of them fighting any clan. Shit they aren't as well known as amongst MX Konfuurta as Reer Siyaad and Reer Ugaas Shermarke and Reer Kooshin. To be completely and brutally blunt, I don't think Reer Dalal would survive in Gedo with that attitude. They would be karbaashed by non Reer Diini clans as they would be outnumbered. It goes back to my quote of the old Reer Khalaf oday, they don't know the costs of being surrounded by non MX on all borders such as Garre, Rahanweyn, Degodiya and OG. Who ALL want your head off. Add to the fact you have a hostile neighboring country who views you as a security threat Thus, supporting a rival clan to ethnically cleanse you.These kids waa Ciyaal say wallahi. I don't know internal MX politics of Galbeed iyo Mudug. Laakin as you are nin Reer Siyaad ah. You know they'll scream Reer Farax Ugaas and Reer Xuseen Yusuf to save their lives in Gedo. You seen how odayasha Reer Ahmed reacted to Janan's arrest. Probably Ina Taano told Farmaajo to tread easily. They didn't have other MX putting up isbaro for numerous years with foreign countries arming the rival factions. To us, MX unity is a MUST not a idea. We have too many enemies not to follow danta guud.

:wow:
:up: madax timo riiman, marexaan Gedo riiman

saddam marexaanka mudug are surrounded by enemies too but most are in galbeed, but they are moving to cabudwaaq
in numbers, the rise of celi in mudug is one of the significant events in post civil war mudug

reer Gedo have a frontier mentality, they are pioneers but in mudug people have old europe mentality, waxay isku qabsadan wax aan qiimo lahayn, while jubalanders waxay isku qabsaan ya noqonaya, the master of the two rivers dawa and juba and who shall adminster the Indian ocean

reer jubaland want to create a texas, california and colorado while nortern somalis fight over meesha geela reer jubaland ku xaari jirey before the great migration, that is in essence the difrrence between, reer jubaland, reer koonfurgalbeed, reer hirshabelle vs northen somalis beyond beledwayne


adali :up: reer siyaad and reer dalal both are no angels there is allot of blame to go around, lakin marexaanwayne needs to be respected

grandpa, ninyahow weedkaga ma iska cabtid, ileen reer dalal aa marexaan wax kama taqanid ee
cali amanreer did the same as what reer dalal did :o

seefta marexaan qortada bay saaraan tahay but you just can see it
Herr Eaglehawk,

I'm proud that I come from a clan that increased Beesha Barakaysan ee Sade borders 10x over. I'm proud I come from a clan that broke the backs of Booran and is still pushing them afar from Libaan. I'm a man with land and power in 3 countries. I'm a man whose uncles karbaashed the living shit of Amxaaro in Jigjigia and Godey. I'm a man who comes from a clan that protect and put the fear of Allah into the enemies of our greatest leader in the modern era, MSB. I can stand alone as beelweynta Hassan Galshiredle. Laakin, I seek Mareexaanweyn. I want the Reer Cisman geeljire and the Baha Guuleed geeljire to walk in confidence from their enemies knowing they have brothers like me an Reer Diini backing them up. I want Saleebaan iyo Sacad to flee in the presence of Wagardhac. I want Eelay iyo Giirgiir to ran away from Hawrarsame iyo Talxe. These lil Dalal boys are arrogant for no reason. It is a light tap to remind them we have bigger strategic goals to worry about.

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:30 pm
by PrinceNugaalHawd
Is deejiya toolka, Dhiiga ha isku kiciinana, Ha la is caafiyo. We don’t need more division.

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:34 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
PrinceNugaalHawd wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:30 pm Is deejiya toolka, Dhiiga ha isku kiciinana, Ha la is caafiyo. We don’t need more division.
They are my tol. It's called tough love. Both these knuckleheads are my brothers. Trust me :lol:

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:40 pm
by PrinceNugaalHawd
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:34 pm
PrinceNugaalHawd wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:30 pm Is deejiya toolka, Dhiiga ha isku kiciinana, Ha la is caafiyo. We don’t need more division.
They are my tol. It's called tough love. Both these knuckleheads are my brothers. Trust me :lol:
Waa sidaas Inaader, saas ba laa raba.

Waryee Granpa, Dalal iyo Voltage Inoo Deejiya, Ugaaska Reer Hassan ee Mariixman kuu dayda.

Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:14 am
by dalalos101
Voltage wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:05 pm Adali-

You have repeated this so let me correct;

1. Afar Waaxood IS NOT NEW. Again, afar waaxood IS NOT NEW.

Listen, Mareexaan are like all other Somalis who are under historical ignorance. Mareexaan, AS WELL AS YOU, do not even understand what the "Dhusamareeb" seats were. This is a topic I want to present on a larger scale, so I won't address that now, but essentially many Mareexaan are ignorant about historical artifacts.

Afar Waxood has existed for almost a half century. Forget the 60's "democratic" elections, but the way Mareexaan organized under the Italian trusteeships, the way they shared clan spoils at the national level, the way clan nominated posts shared responsibility, etc was based on Afar Waxood.

That's how clan Parliament seats have been shared in Carta,in Embagathi, and even now.

2. I DO NOT SUPPORT AFAR WAXOOD. I AM NOT AGAINST IT EITHER.

Afar Waxood does not concern me either.

Saying Afar Waxood has been the system in place as a historical fact is not lobbying. I just find the statement from reer Dalal that this is new incredulous.

Say you are desiring change, but do not lie about history. Reer Dalal has never opposed Afar Waxood until now. It has always been CELI AND REER SIYAAD XUSSEIN calling to abolish it.

3. Marehan has two different geographies and political dispensation.

Afar Waxood is how Marehan Mudug share their section of the national Marehan spoils after dividing it with Marehan Gedo.

Marehan Gedo has a different way of sharing their section which is a mixture of DISTRICTS (Caabudwaaq is 1 district, but Gedo has 6) and XAAL (for example Faqi Yacquub is not any bigger than many other sub-clans who sometimes do not find representation but as XAAL Faqi Yacquub is ALWAYS given an MP).

Again, I am not pro or against Afar Waxood. Change it if you want but I am saying I hope what is gotten is better and can keep the peace.
Voltage suaasha isweydiin mudan waa maxee ka nuugta maxeesa ku nuugta ? Mareexaan dhulkiisa ha raadsado waxna Caabudwaaq yaanan lagu caburin Rer Dalal iyo Rer Siyaad Xusseen, we are hosting Mareexaan weyn in Caabudwaaq, those fleeing from Galbeed(Celi, Hawrarsame, Rer Cisman), Mudug(Wagardhac), Balanbale(Bah Hawiye),Mareexaan waa gob, gobna waa jabta waana kacda, dhulkiina goobta ha iska dabo wareegina sida naago.

Afar Waaxood is gar daro iyo isku dirdir, it is pushed by idiotic self serving politicians, it is insane that Bah Hawiye who have 3 permanent MP seats in the federal government and 4 MPs in Galmudug parliament, even mention Rer Dalal who have no MP in the federal government and only 2 in this joke GM parliament, but reality is why are Mareexaan subclans including Hawrarsame, Habar Ciise, Rer Cismaan, Urmidig, Rer Garad, Ali Dheere and many others of the 20 something Mareexaan subclan forced to be content with 1 seat if they are lucky or none at all at the federal level, and 1 or zero in the regional parliaments(Jubaland/Galmudug) while Bah Hawiye have so many seats, to even suggest that we as Rer Dalal give up seats for the sake of Mareexaan weyn is spit in the face of our intelligence.

Voltage don't give me that shit about Districts and stuff, your subclan vacate Balanbale ffs, also neither federal nor regional parliaments share seats along districts or census but CLAN !