Re: Voltage / Smile you forgot this
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:39 am
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Herr Eaglehawk, Afar Waaxood, is anti-Dalal because it says Hawrarsame and Habar Ciise should be accommodated at the expense of Rer Dalal. Let me take you down memory lane horta so you get why I am saying this is direct and shameful attack on us.XHKS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:09 amReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:51 pmVoltage wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:56 pm Adali-
I neither slandered nor disrespected; what I did was touch you with a small part of dabkaad adigayo Grandpa holaciisa Mareexaan maalin walba ku qabataan.
For example, my statement about Gaani (AUN) was not a personal slander per se. Someone familiar with Mareexaan dacaayad would have known immediately. By that I mean, Mareexaan always say dawlada Majeerteen musuqmaasuq baa dumisay, dawlada Mareexaana DHILAYSI. I don't know if you know, but anytime Mareexaan wants to make a comparison using a Sade personality during the Siad government, they always GURI DHILUU ku jiray. So that wasn't a slander that was personal or unique to Gaani.
The whole point of even bringing him up (and which you apparently seem to take issue with when done against you) was because you and Grandpa constantly engage in denying OWNERSHIP/LAHAANSHO to reer Caabudwaaq who are NOT bah-Ogaadeen. You have constantly done it to Wagardhac and your post that garnered that response from me was an escalation with you essentially including Hawlraarsame, Celi, and Habar Ciise. Who da fock is left but bah-Ogaadeen. Reer Siyaad Xussein baad beerlaxowsataan but that's because reer Siyaad Xussein are the only clan to the east of Caabudwaaq until Xananbuuro. There is no way to exclude them realistically without blatantly being a bah-Ogaadeenist. All the other clans waxaad ku gaban kartaan they are West towards Ethiopia INCLUDING YOU to be honest.
There is nothing worse than denying ownership to people and especially to things they are entitled to. Our entire country is in war and we all know that's because they want the ownership due to them; ownership over representation, rights, land, etc.
Sxb, just because bah-Ogaadeen is the biggest, doesn't mean Habar Ciise or Celi or Wagardhac are any less reer Caabudwaaq. If I own a house on a block and you do and at some point your uncles and cousins and relatives start buying other houses on the block, does that mean I am no longer "reer Block" because there is more of you? Wtf; that is so insulting and actually focking degrading coming from another Mareexaan. Hadaad tiro ku faanto, tirada ilaahay baa bixiyo lakin no Mareexaan is any less "reer Caabudwaaq" than bah-Ogaadeen ESPECIALLY qabiilo whom we all recognize are AS A COMMUNITY are through and through reer Caabudwaaq.
I am reer Siyaad; we are not as a community part of Caabudwaaq's history and fabric or say Beled-Xaawo. I would still find it troubling that I, as another Mareexaan, would ever been denied the ability to call myself reer Caabudwaaq or Beled-Xaawo if that's where I chose to live.
I would find it even more troubling, even unfathomable, possibly even a declaration of war, if that denial was towards people who AS A COMMUNITY have been part of Caabudwaaq and Beled-Xaawo's history and fabric and in fact, that's essentially Gedo had a 12 year war after Al Itihad when reer Axmed and reer Xassan kicked each other out of Dollow and Luuq and Hawlraarsame finally said enough, I am not going to be invisible anymore in Beled-Xaawo (where they may even be able to compete with Cali Dheere in numbers there).
So dude, I brought up the history of Caabudwaaq where the communities you maligned had an outsized role. Col Faarax Baasiin WAS the leader of the resistance. Saying that and broadening the history of Caabudwaaq by including people YOU have excluded was not intended to exclude YOU. I never said rer Dalal didn't die or defend. I let you they were not the only one.
Gaani was the most prominent Dalal general I could think of and the comparison used about him was a generic Marexaan dacaayad for all Mareexaan who were in Siad's gov. It was nothing personal.
As for Farmaajo and Shirdoon; I have nothing but profound respect for both and will defend them to the very end, but I have said nothing different than Grandpa or you have said or I haven't enumerated a million times. It's also not even something personal to them. All Mareexaan leadership has that annoying dabeecad. I have said time and time again, the biggest thing I admire about Majeerteen is THEY GET THEIR SHIT; they don't give a hoot what others think. If they could, they would take all the vaults in The Central Bank and take it to Garowe. Waa niman rag ah.
Ina adeer. This what i implied by these kids don't know what the costs of war were for us. To be completely honest and harsh towards Reer Dalal. I never heard of them fighting any clan. Shit they aren't as well known as amongst MX Konfuurta as Reer Siyaad and Reer Ugaas Shermarke and Reer Kooshin. To be completely and brutally blunt, I don't think Reer Dalal would survive in Gedo with that attitude. They would be karbaashed by non Reer Diini clans as they would be outnumbered. It goes back to my quote of the old Reer Khalaf oday, they don't know the costs of being surrounded by non MX on all borders such as Garre, Rahanweyn, Degodiya and OG. Who ALL want your head off. Add to the fact you have a hostile neighboring country who views you as a security threat Thus, supporting a rival clan to ethnically cleanse you.These kids waa Ciyaal say wallahi. I don't know internal MX politics of Galbeed iyo Mudug. Laakin as you are nin Reer Siyaad ah. You know they'll scream Reer Farax Ugaas and Reer Xuseen Yusuf to save their lives in Gedo. You seen how odayasha Reer Ahmed reacted to Janan's arrest. Probably Ina Taano told Farmaajo to tread easily. They didn't have other MX putting up isbaro for numerous years with foreign countries arming the rival factions. To us, MX unity is a MUST not a idea. We have too many enemies not to follow danta guud.
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madax timo riiman, marexaan Gedo riiman
saddam marexaanka mudug are surrounded by enemies too but most are in galbeed, but they are moving to cabudwaaq
in numbers, the rise of celi in mudug is one of the significant events in post civil war mudug
reer Gedo have a frontier mentality, they are pioneers but in mudug people have old europe mentality, waxay isku qabsadan wax aan qiimo lahayn, while jubalanders waxay isku qabsaan ya noqonaya, the master of the two rivers dawa and juba and who shall adminster the Indian ocean
reer jubaland want to create a texas, california and colorado while nortern somalis fight over meesha geela reer jubaland ku xaari jirey before the great migration, that is in essence the difrrence between, reer jubaland, reer koonfurgalbeed, reer hirshabelle vs northen somalis beyond beledwayne
adalireer siyaad and reer dalal both are no angels there is allot of blame to go around, lakin marexaanwayne needs to be respected
grandpa, ninyahow weedkaga ma iska cabtid, ileen reer dalal aa marexaan wax kama taqanid ee
cali amanreer did the same as what reer dalal did![]()
seefta marexaan qortada bay saaraan tahay but you just can see it
Herr Eaglehawk,XHKS wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:09 amReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:51 pmVoltage wrote: Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:56 pm Adali-
I neither slandered nor disrespected; what I did was touch you with a small part of dabkaad adigayo Grandpa holaciisa Mareexaan maalin walba ku qabataan.
For example, my statement about Gaani (AUN) was not a personal slander per se. Someone familiar with Mareexaan dacaayad would have known immediately. By that I mean, Mareexaan always say dawlada Majeerteen musuqmaasuq baa dumisay, dawlada Mareexaana DHILAYSI. I don't know if you know, but anytime Mareexaan wants to make a comparison using a Sade personality during the Siad government, they always GURI DHILUU ku jiray. So that wasn't a slander that was personal or unique to Gaani.
The whole point of even bringing him up (and which you apparently seem to take issue with when done against you) was because you and Grandpa constantly engage in denying OWNERSHIP/LAHAANSHO to reer Caabudwaaq who are NOT bah-Ogaadeen. You have constantly done it to Wagardhac and your post that garnered that response from me was an escalation with you essentially including Hawlraarsame, Celi, and Habar Ciise. Who da fock is left but bah-Ogaadeen. Reer Siyaad Xussein baad beerlaxowsataan but that's because reer Siyaad Xussein are the only clan to the east of Caabudwaaq until Xananbuuro. There is no way to exclude them realistically without blatantly being a bah-Ogaadeenist. All the other clans waxaad ku gaban kartaan they are West towards Ethiopia INCLUDING YOU to be honest.
There is nothing worse than denying ownership to people and especially to things they are entitled to. Our entire country is in war and we all know that's because they want the ownership due to them; ownership over representation, rights, land, etc.
Sxb, just because bah-Ogaadeen is the biggest, doesn't mean Habar Ciise or Celi or Wagardhac are any less reer Caabudwaaq. If I own a house on a block and you do and at some point your uncles and cousins and relatives start buying other houses on the block, does that mean I am no longer "reer Block" because there is more of you? Wtf; that is so insulting and actually focking degrading coming from another Mareexaan. Hadaad tiro ku faanto, tirada ilaahay baa bixiyo lakin no Mareexaan is any less "reer Caabudwaaq" than bah-Ogaadeen ESPECIALLY qabiilo whom we all recognize are AS A COMMUNITY are through and through reer Caabudwaaq.
I am reer Siyaad; we are not as a community part of Caabudwaaq's history and fabric or say Beled-Xaawo. I would still find it troubling that I, as another Mareexaan, would ever been denied the ability to call myself reer Caabudwaaq or Beled-Xaawo if that's where I chose to live.
I would find it even more troubling, even unfathomable, possibly even a declaration of war, if that denial was towards people who AS A COMMUNITY have been part of Caabudwaaq and Beled-Xaawo's history and fabric and in fact, that's essentially Gedo had a 12 year war after Al Itihad when reer Axmed and reer Xassan kicked each other out of Dollow and Luuq and Hawlraarsame finally said enough, I am not going to be invisible anymore in Beled-Xaawo (where they may even be able to compete with Cali Dheere in numbers there).
So dude, I brought up the history of Caabudwaaq where the communities you maligned had an outsized role. Col Faarax Baasiin WAS the leader of the resistance. Saying that and broadening the history of Caabudwaaq by including people YOU have excluded was not intended to exclude YOU. I never said rer Dalal didn't die or defend. I let you they were not the only one.
Gaani was the most prominent Dalal general I could think of and the comparison used about him was a generic Marexaan dacaayad for all Mareexaan who were in Siad's gov. It was nothing personal.
As for Farmaajo and Shirdoon; I have nothing but profound respect for both and will defend them to the very end, but I have said nothing different than Grandpa or you have said or I haven't enumerated a million times. It's also not even something personal to them. All Mareexaan leadership has that annoying dabeecad. I have said time and time again, the biggest thing I admire about Majeerteen is THEY GET THEIR SHIT; they don't give a hoot what others think. If they could, they would take all the vaults in The Central Bank and take it to Garowe. Waa niman rag ah.
Ina adeer. This what i implied by these kids don't know what the costs of war were for us. To be completely honest and harsh towards Reer Dalal. I never heard of them fighting any clan. Shit they aren't as well known as amongst MX Konfuurta as Reer Siyaad and Reer Ugaas Shermarke and Reer Kooshin. To be completely and brutally blunt, I don't think Reer Dalal would survive in Gedo with that attitude. They would be karbaashed by non Reer Diini clans as they would be outnumbered. It goes back to my quote of the old Reer Khalaf oday, they don't know the costs of being surrounded by non MX on all borders such as Garre, Rahanweyn, Degodiya and OG. Who ALL want your head off. Add to the fact you have a hostile neighboring country who views you as a security threat Thus, supporting a rival clan to ethnically cleanse you.These kids waa Ciyaal say wallahi. I don't know internal MX politics of Galbeed iyo Mudug. Laakin as you are nin Reer Siyaad ah. You know they'll scream Reer Farax Ugaas and Reer Xuseen Yusuf to save their lives in Gedo. You seen how odayasha Reer Ahmed reacted to Janan's arrest. Probably Ina Taano told Farmaajo to tread easily. They didn't have other MX putting up isbaro for numerous years with foreign countries arming the rival factions. To us, MX unity is a MUST not a idea. We have too many enemies not to follow danta guud.
![]()
madax timo riiman, marexaan Gedo riiman
saddam marexaanka mudug are surrounded by enemies too but most are in galbeed, but they are moving to cabudwaaq
in numbers, the rise of celi in mudug is one of the significant events in post civil war mudug
reer Gedo have a frontier mentality, they are pioneers but in mudug people have old europe mentality, waxay isku qabsadan wax aan qiimo lahayn, while jubalanders waxay isku qabsaan ya noqonaya, the master of the two rivers dawa and juba and who shall adminster the Indian ocean
reer jubaland want to create a texas, california and colorado while nortern somalis fight over meesha geela reer jubaland ku xaari jirey before the great migration, that is in essence the difrrence between, reer jubaland, reer koonfurgalbeed, reer hirshabelle vs northen somalis beyond beledwayne
adalireer siyaad and reer dalal both are no angels there is allot of blame to go around, lakin marexaanwayne needs to be respected
grandpa, ninyahow weedkaga ma iska cabtid, ileen reer dalal aa marexaan wax kama taqanid ee
cali amanreer did the same as what reer dalal did![]()
seefta marexaan qortada bay saaraan tahay but you just can see it
They are my tol. It's called tough love. Both these knuckleheads are my brothers. Trust mePrinceNugaalHawd wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:30 pm Is deejiya toolka, Dhiiga ha isku kiciinana, Ha la is caafiyo. We don’t need more division.
Waa sidaas Inaader, saas ba laa raba.ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:34 pmThey are my tol. It's called tough love. Both these knuckleheads are my brothers. Trust mePrinceNugaalHawd wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:30 pm Is deejiya toolka, Dhiiga ha isku kiciinana, Ha la is caafiyo. We don’t need more division.![]()
Voltage suaasha isweydiin mudan waa maxee ka nuugta maxeesa ku nuugta ? Mareexaan dhulkiisa ha raadsado waxna Caabudwaaq yaanan lagu caburin Rer Dalal iyo Rer Siyaad Xusseen, we are hosting Mareexaan weyn in Caabudwaaq, those fleeing from Galbeed(Celi, Hawrarsame, Rer Cisman), Mudug(Wagardhac), Balanbale(Bah Hawiye),Mareexaan waa gob, gobna waa jabta waana kacda, dhulkiina goobta ha iska dabo wareegina sida naago.Voltage wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:05 pm Adali-
You have repeated this so let me correct;
1. Afar Waaxood IS NOT NEW. Again, afar waaxood IS NOT NEW.
Listen, Mareexaan are like all other Somalis who are under historical ignorance. Mareexaan, AS WELL AS YOU, do not even understand what the "Dhusamareeb" seats were. This is a topic I want to present on a larger scale, so I won't address that now, but essentially many Mareexaan are ignorant about historical artifacts.
Afar Waxood has existed for almost a half century. Forget the 60's "democratic" elections, but the way Mareexaan organized under the Italian trusteeships, the way they shared clan spoils at the national level, the way clan nominated posts shared responsibility, etc was based on Afar Waxood.
That's how clan Parliament seats have been shared in Carta,in Embagathi, and even now.
2. I DO NOT SUPPORT AFAR WAXOOD. I AM NOT AGAINST IT EITHER.
Afar Waxood does not concern me either.
Saying Afar Waxood has been the system in place as a historical fact is not lobbying. I just find the statement from reer Dalal that this is new incredulous.
Say you are desiring change, but do not lie about history. Reer Dalal has never opposed Afar Waxood until now. It has always been CELI AND REER SIYAAD XUSSEIN calling to abolish it.
3. Marehan has two different geographies and political dispensation.
Afar Waxood is how Marehan Mudug share their section of the national Marehan spoils after dividing it with Marehan Gedo.
Marehan Gedo has a different way of sharing their section which is a mixture of DISTRICTS (Caabudwaaq is 1 district, but Gedo has 6) and XAAL (for example Faqi Yacquub is not any bigger than many other sub-clans who sometimes do not find representation but as XAAL Faqi Yacquub is ALWAYS given an MP).
Again, I am not pro or against Afar Waxood. Change it if you want but I am saying I hope what is gotten is better and can keep the peace.