Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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The people wanting to create the state are thugs, from the isbaaro days. They have no clue how to go about it in an academic way. Hence, all they do is continue to hold irrelevant shir threatening the government. Low IQ. Also they are not native to xamar. Dadka banaadir leh waa afarta xamar weyne, shanta shingaani iyo culomodoodi. Period
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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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The people wanting to create the state are thugs, from the isbaaro days. They have no clue how to go about it in an academic way. Hence, all they do is continue to hold irrelevant shir threatening the government. Low IQ. Also they are not native to xamar. Dadka banaadir leh waa afarta xamar weyne, shanta shingaani iyo culomodoodi. Period
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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:47 pm
Ardentte wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:52 pm
Nomand wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:36 pm

It's no imagination it's the truth even the 40 percent I gave them is being over generous.

I probably underrepresented the bantu and rahanweyn community between those two they are atleast 50 percent of Mogadishu.
Your math is compleatly off you forgot the greate Sade who make 60% of Xamar and 90% of Gedo and 80% of Jubbaland. The math of huntergatherers is fascinating. Just prepare to diversify Gedo leadership when Farmaajo is kicked out in 2021. You have empowered the mighty D&M whom lands you squat in. InshaAllaah we will show them the path to the promised land.
:lol:


The Great Sade is cucking in your own "deegaans" and empowering your enemy that humiliated you in Dhusamareeb last night. Rahanweyn sees you as a greater threat than MX. Baraawe, Marka anybody? That's Konfuur Galbeed if I'm not wrong?

:mrgreen:


HAG fell off. To the point your begging D&M. How the mighty fell.

:wow:
The inevitable is coming. Raxanweyn IDPs will be returning to gedo.

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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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Ardentte wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:52 pm
Nomand wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:36 pm
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:41 pm

So in your little imagination 60% of Mogadishu population is non Hawiye, Ironically non of these people have buildings in Mogadishu , not even a basic residential places to live. Except the benaadiri community.
It's no imagination it's the truth even the 40 percent I gave them is being over generous.

I probably underrepresented the bantu and rahanweyn community between those two they are atleast 50 percent of Mogadishu.
Your math is compleatly off you forgot the greate Sade who make 60% of Xamar and 90% of Gedo and 80% of Jubbaland. The math of huntergatherers is fascinating. Just prepare to diversify Gedo leadership when Farmaajo is kicked out in 2021. You have empowered the mighty D&M whom lands you squat in. InshaAllaah we will show them the path to the promised land.
:lol:
digil iyo mirifle have their eyes set on lower shabeele which today they own and mogadishu.

sade is 90 percent of gedo that is without question, but overall we are probably around 40 to 45 percent of jubbaland.

Mogadishu, the capital city of somalia and rahanweyne strong hold

:blessed:
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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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Nomand wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:30 am
Ardentte wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:52 pm
Nomand wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:36 pm

It's no imagination it's the truth even the 40 percent I gave them is being over generous.

I probably underrepresented the bantu and rahanweyn community between those two they are atleast 50 percent of Mogadishu.
Your math is compleatly off you forgot the greate Sade who make 60% of Xamar and 90% of Gedo and 80% of Jubbaland. The math of huntergatherers is fascinating. Just prepare to diversify Gedo leadership when Farmaajo is kicked out in 2021. You have empowered the mighty D&M whom lands you squat in. InshaAllaah we will show them the path to the promised land.
:lol:
digil iyo mirifle have their eyes set on lower shabeele which today they own and mogadishu.

sade is 90 percent of gedo that is without question, but overall we are probably around 40 to 45 percent of jubbaland.

Mogadishu, the capital city of somalia and rahanweyne strong hold

:blessed:
We are not like you who lost 50% of their degaans in Galgaduud. D&M arent your average nomad clan who are used to mobile lifestyle and loosing lands specially those in Jubbaland they know where their lands are and who are the squatters. Even after 30-50 years they will still remember the farm of their grandfather that the ilkoyar is squatting on.

Our lands on this side of the river are holy and untouchable we have the numbers and firepower to keep invaders out. But you have encroaged into the mesopotamia of D&M buris iyo musbaar aa ku sugooyo. Whatever they need will be profided once Farmaajo is out, isdiyaariya reer Gedo political wilderness is a cold place.
:lol:
No more will we support your ambitions in JL like we did in 2012 when HIraale failed you in capturing Kismaayo. Its do or die for you and I cant wait to see the outcome. 2021 is just around the corner and with it so many tears.
:stylin:
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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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Ardentte wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:18 pm
Nomand wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:30 am
Ardentte wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:52 pm

Your math is compleatly off you forgot the greate Sade who make 60% of Xamar and 90% of Gedo and 80% of Jubbaland. The math of huntergatherers is fascinating. Just prepare to diversify Gedo leadership when Farmaajo is kicked out in 2021. You have empowered the mighty D&M whom lands you squat in. InshaAllaah we will show them the path to the promised land.
:lol:
digil iyo mirifle have their eyes set on lower shabeele which today they own and mogadishu.

sade is 90 percent of gedo that is without question, but overall we are probably around 40 to 45 percent of jubbaland.

Mogadishu, the capital city of somalia and rahanweyne strong hold

:blessed:
We are not like you who lost 50% of their degaans in Galgaduud. D&M arent your average nomad clan who are used to mobile lifestyle and loosing lands specially those in Jubbaland they know where their lands are and who are the squatters. Even after 30-50 years they will still remember the farm of their grandfather that the ilkoyar is squatting on.

Our lands on this side of the river are holy and untouchable we have the numbers and firepower to keep invaders out. But you have encroaged into the mesopotamia of D&M buris iyo musbaar aa ku sugooyo. Whatever they need will be profided once Farmaajo is out, isdiyaariya reer Gedo political wilderness is a cold place.
:lol:
No more will we support your ambitions in JL like we did in 2012 when HIraale failed you in capturing Kismaayo. Its do or die for you and I cant wait to see the outcome. 2021 is just around the corner and with it so many tears.
:stylin:
of all the cantarabaqash you wrote that takes the cake, same was said when siyad barre was toppled and guess what, we survived thrived ruled from dolow to kismaayo and 25 years after siyad barre, Marehan again is head of state while HG never ruled anything or ever tasted the presidency

as for Jubbaland we took it by force in the 90's and used ayr against sacad and gave ayr lower shabeele.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DJIBOUTI433_a.html

Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan.



DAS Yamamoto told Guelleh that the principal
question now is how to reconcile the differences that exist
in Somalia. He spoke of Guelleh's closeness to members of
the influential Ayr clan, and asked if the President's
personal approach to this clan might be a starting point in
a reconciliation process. Guelleh responded that in his
view, the Ayr do not have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and
derive much of their authority from their affiliation with
the Marehan. When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them. Still, Guelleh said


today we will arm rahanweyne and give shabeele hoose iyo mogadishu to them.
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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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Nomand wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:41 pm
Ardentte wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:18 pm
Nomand wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:30 am

digil iyo mirifle have their eyes set on lower shabeele which today they own and mogadishu.

sade is 90 percent of gedo that is without question, but overall we are probably around 40 to 45 percent of jubbaland.

Mogadishu, the capital city of somalia and rahanweyne strong hold

:blessed:
We are not like you who lost 50% of their degaans in Galgaduud. D&M arent your average nomad clan who are used to mobile lifestyle and loosing lands specially those in Jubbaland they know where their lands are and who are the squatters. Even after 30-50 years they will still remember the farm of their grandfather that the ilkoyar is squatting on.

Our lands on this side of the river are holy and untouchable we have the numbers and firepower to keep invaders out. But you have encroaged into the mesopotamia of D&M buris iyo musbaar aa ku sugooyo. Whatever they need will be profided once Farmaajo is out, isdiyaariya reer Gedo political wilderness is a cold place.
:lol:
No more will we support your ambitions in JL like we did in 2012 when HIraale failed you in capturing Kismaayo. Its do or die for you and I cant wait to see the outcome. 2021 is just around the corner and with it so many tears.
:stylin:
of all the cantarabaqash you wrote that takes the cake, same was said when siyad barre was toppled and guess what, we survived thrived ruled from dolow to kismaayo and 25 years after siyad barre, Marehan again is head of state while HG never ruled anything or ever tasted the presidency

as for Jubbaland we took it by force in the 90's and used ayr against sacad and gave ayr lower shabeele.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DJIBOUTI433_a.html

Guelleh cautioned, however, that the Ayr had very
little real influence in Somalia, and derived much of its
authority from its affiliation with the Marehan.



DAS Yamamoto told Guelleh that the principal
question now is how to reconcile the differences that exist
in Somalia. He spoke of Guelleh's closeness to members of
the influential Ayr clan, and asked if the President's
personal approach to this clan might be a starting point in
a reconciliation process. Guelleh responded that in his
view, the Ayr do not have much influence. They originate
from the poorest and most desolate region of Somalia and
derive much of their authority from their affiliation with
the Marehan. When Said Barre's regime collapsed, he
continued, the Ayr were targeted by the Hawiye and kept a
low profile. After Abdiqasim came to power, the Ayr
re-emerged and many became businessmen. Guelleh stated
that some Ayr are Islamists, such as Dahir Aweys, the head
of Al-Ittihad. Yet without the Marehan, the Ayr are
nothing and remain close to them. Still, Guelleh said


today we will arm rahanweyne and give shabeele hoose iyo mogadishu to them.
Yo you been banned from Sspot or what, some VIP/MOD was bragging about your departure, so its true you gone?
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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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Kees sxb I left that shithole, after i said I wont be back is when they then banned me.
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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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Nomand wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:21 pm Kees sxb I left that shithole, after i said I wont be back is when they then banned me.
I was one of your HAG adversaries and even i wouldnt dare to ban you, you were one heck off a fellow, you will be missed bro. :up:
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Kees70 wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:52 pm
Nomand wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:21 pm Kees sxb I left that shithole, after i said I wont be back is when they then banned me.
I was one of your HAG adversaries and even i wouldnt dare to ban you, you were one heck off a fellow, you will be missed bro. :up:
Thanks brother, but that place is full of people with to much cuqdad.

Drop me a message with your spot username
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Re: Why are people against Xamar being a fed state?

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[quote=Ardentte post_id=4971825 time=1583031154 user_id=191585]
[quote=Nomand post_id=4971818 time=1583019369 user_id=152031]
[quote=theyuusuf143 post_id=4971807 time=1583012471 user_id=160678]


So in your little imagination 60% of Mogadishu population is non Hawiye, Ironically non of these people have buildings in Mogadishu , not even a basic residential places to live. Except the benaadiri community.
[/quote]

It's no imagination it's the truth even the 40 percent I gave them is being over generous.

I probably underrepresented the bantu and rahanweyn community between those two they are atleast 50 percent of Mogadishu.
[/quote]

Your math is compleatly off you forgot the greate Sade who make 60% of Xamar and 90% of Gedo and 80% of Jubbaland. The math of huntergatherers is fascinating. Just prepare to diversify Gedo leadership when Farmaajo is kicked out in 2021. You have empowered the mighty D&M whom lands you squat in. InshaAllaah we will show them the path to the promised land.
:lol:
[/quote]

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Funny clan statistics.
MX in the best case scenario is 45% of Gedo population. You can have the most armed militia in the region, but Gedo is very diverse with Mirifle clans, Garre, Dir, Ajuuraan, Bantu, e.t.c. Baardheere is the largest city, and Rahaweyn dominates the rural area. Same thing with Luuq. Ceelwaaq is also Garre majority.

DM are the majority on the east side of Jubba river in Gedo region. Actual numbers can only be verified through census or popular election.
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