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dalalos101 wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:45 pm
Turbulence wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:05 pm
Mustafee101 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:24 pm Laftagareen’s boys in Shaakir house. Most bahdil of the century
These guys are very unprofessional and a bad look for the SNA. They will be tolerated for now but eventually individuals like these have to be removed from the forces because you know they will create problems for the locals.
cry me a river these a soldier boys who have no interest or knowledge about politics, they follow orders thats it, what they do in their spare times I don't care, this is nice little victory, Guul Haramacas, AUN to those who died.

Shaakir is now under the control of SNA
First of all I am not even sure if these kids are part of the military. For all we know this could have been shot somewhere in Baydhabo or Mogadishu. There really is nothing to indicate these are the troops the pacified Dhuusamareeb. In fact I don't even believe they are.

Going back to what I was talking about. You need the SNA to fill its ranks with professional soldiers because you need the public to be on its side at all times. They need to be aware of politics and the image of the SNA. The behavior seen in the video is very similar to that of the drugged USC child soldiers Ceydiid commanded in the 1990s. You never know what these types will do.

Today they are looting the house of Shakir but tomorrow they could be shooting indiscriminately in public gatherings, robbing people or raping girls. You don't need that shit to be associated with the SNA.
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Re: HAG lost the battle

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Turbulence wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:53 pm
dalalos101 wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:45 pm
Turbulence wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:05 pm

These guys are very unprofessional and a bad look for the SNA. They will be tolerated for now but eventually individuals like these have to be removed from the forces because you know they will create problems for the locals.
cry me a river these a soldier boys who have no interest or knowledge about politics, they follow orders thats it, what they do in their spare times I don't care, this is nice little victory, Guul Haramacas, AUN to those who died.

Shaakir is now under the control of SNA
First of all I am not even sure if these kids are part of the military. For all we know this could have been shot somewhere in Baydhabo or Mogadishu. There really is nothing to indicate these are the troops the pacified Dhuusamareeb. In fact I don't even believe they are.

Going back to what I was talking about. You need the SNA to fill its ranks with professional soldiers because you need the public to be on its side at all times. They need to be aware of politics and the image of the SNA. The behavior seen in the video is very similar to that of the drugged USC child soldiers Ceydiid commanded in the 1990s. You never know what these types will do.

Today they are looting the house of Shakir but tomorrow they could be shooting indiscriminately in public gatherings, robbing people or raping girls. You don't need that shit to be associated with the SNA.
From a government point of view it is not bad media, it is military propaganda to break the oppositions morale, its not like showcasing a defeated and imprisoned despot's property is breaking rules, it is done all the time. it would have been if they were raping and looting like USC did in 1990, but no, that is just you displaying fear and paranoia, no wonder these hutus take your land, clearly a sufferer of PTSD compounded with Stockholm syndrome would willingly forfeit everything the moment they look your way, pathetic, but it is not your fault Hutus really did a number on you.
lets get something straight Cayr are enemy of Galmudug, instead of crying crocodile tears, why aren't you celebrating the decisive blow against Cayr who attacked Qoorqoor the president of Galmudug, they are both Goddamn hutus so it isn't exactly qabyaalad and the Haramacas are Biyoomaal and Eelaays for the most part.
I am glad Shaakir was defeated, Qoorqoor is delivering back Dhusamareb, it will no longer be Cayr land but capital of Galmudug and shared city once again. :up: :som:
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Re: HAG lost the battle

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Dalalos,

Don’t be a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. You brought your own assertions on why this is a good idea but that doesn’t hold weight. Bring modern, 21st century militaries who’s soldiers post videos like this on social media. From Turkey in Syria, US in Iraq, Russia in Chechnya etc.

“ Winning hearts and minds essentially means convincing the populace that the benefits of supporting the government against the insurgents outweighs the benefits of supporting the insurgents.”

Douglas Porch


Public opinion, good press etc matters. Thank God N&N have advisors unlike adiga, things would go downhill quick.
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Turblence

The Barre regime SNA were thieves who started their Bililiqo tradition during the Ogaden war where they took their loot to Hargeisa, looted Hargeisa and took it to Xamar, then looted Xamar before fleeing for good.

Even the Americans found dead SNA in their bunkers after the trap door locked in on the looting soldiers as the last American choppers left in Jan 1991.

Dalalos

The Haramcad are going to Cabudwaq next to help quell the last PL supporting groups in Galgaduud now that ASWJ. It’s time that Gaas goons get with the program or the haramcad will be sent to sort them out
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AbdiWahab252 wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:22 pm Turblence

The Barre regime SNA were thieves who started their Bililiqo tradition during the Ogaden war where they took their loot to Hargeisa, looted Hargeisa and took it to Xamar, then looted Xamar before fleeing for good.

Even the Americans found dead SNA in their bunkers after the trap door locked in on the looting soldiers as the last American choppers left in Jan 1991.

Dalalos

The Haramcad are going to Cabudwaq next to help quell the last PL supporting groups in Galgaduud now that ASWJ. It’s time that Gaas goons get with the program or the haramcad will be sent to sort them out

Caabudwaaq isn't a conflict zone mate, fortunately we have nadaam and dhaqan unlike you iljeex's, the people opposed to Qoorqoor from our end were told cagaha wax ka daya, they are in Gaalkacyo with Deni and Xaaf, Gureeye the former ASWJ commander is one of them, he attempted to send a car to Caabudwaaq full of Arab cash to start some anti-qoorqoor nonsense, but it was intercepted and confiscated on route, he is now pleading that its was commercial affairs and nothing to do with politics.

As Rer Caabudwaaq go'aan baa garnay we are firmly pro-Nabad iyo Nolol and Farmaajo is our son, thus his puppet Qoorqoor is not our enemy but our halyeey, we only want them to commit to their promises and usher in a new era of development for our town.

It is sad but reality is you dumbass habar gidir division is standing in the way of our development, so the faster these despots are dealt with the better.

it's a win-win relationship we have with N&N they give us development, we give them are strong voting base.



this is guureeye mushaar doon, he used to be ASWJ
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Re: HAG lost the battle

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Murax wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:00 pm Dalalos,

Don’t be a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. You brought your own assertions on why this is a good idea but that doesn’t hold weight. Bring modern, 21st century militaries who’s soldiers post videos like this on social media. From Turkey in Syria, US in Iraq, Russia in Chechnya etc.

“ Winning hearts and minds essentially means convincing the populace that the benefits of supporting the government against the insurgents outweighs the benefits of supporting the insurgents.”

Douglas Porch


Public opinion, good press etc matters. Thank God N&N have advisors unlike adiga, things would go downhill quick.
No you are wrong, because you are confusing their field of profession first of all Haramacad are not politicians, they are not supposed to inspire anything but absolute fear and respect, that is their image goal, Farmaajo and Kheyre and politicians they need to inspire love from the populace.
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Re: HAG lost the battle

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First of all Dalalos, if I was Farmaajo, I would be thinking with supporters like YOU who needs enemy.

Turb, as always true to form, is cool as a cucumber and never one to display emotion and Murax is literally the embodiment of noble, but both in their own way pretty much said what I am more than happy to make clear to you in my intemperate excitability...

...Go fock yourself

At the very least, stop speaking for Farmaajo because you literally are that person no one wants claiming them because of the destruction you bring to their name and reputation.

Like how emotionally underdeveloped are you to not understand;

1. Somalia is coming out of civil war
2. There was 30 years of outright clan battles
3. Reconciliation is the only thing helping us climb back
4. The Dusamareb debacle was already sensitive enough due to clan/sectarian/etc differences
5. In particular the clash was SITUATIONAL; Ahlu Sunnah and the Gov are not "enemies"
6. Shakir, Macalin Maxamuud and other elders/leaders must be especially treated with respect...they didn't fall into ENEMY hands, it's their own gov that now takes responsibility
7. The SNA should be Somalia's "sons"; not Somalia's "nightmare"
8. In particular these boys are under a microscope and represent much more than their individual persons
9. That they are specialized units is even more of a threat to everything Nabad iyo Nolol is trying to advance


Etc etc etc

In my opinion, they should;

1. Quicky ascertain legitimacy if they haven't already
2. If the video's info is legitimate l, they SHOULD IMMEDIATELY be under court martial
3. Under handcuffs, they should be brought before Sheikh Sharif while he is eating and relaxing
4. They should immediately be told to apologize in front of cameras and kiss his hand
5. Finally they should immediately face the camera and apologize to SOMALIA for the shame and dishonor they brought to the nation

"Behavioral issues" are the single biggest common denominator failed and under developed nations manifest.

You don't put a stop to it, you can kiss State Formation goodbye. It will all be for nothing if decency, decorum, and honor are not ADOPTED AS COMMON UTILITY in Somalia.
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Re: HAG lost the battle

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dalalos101 wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:09 pm
Murax wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:00 pm Dalalos,

Don’t be a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. You brought your own assertions on why this is a good idea but that doesn’t hold weight. Bring modern, 21st century militaries who’s soldiers post videos like this on social media. From Turkey in Syria, US in Iraq, Russia in Chechnya etc.

“ Winning hearts and minds essentially means convincing the populace that the benefits of supporting the government against the insurgents outweighs the benefits of supporting the insurgents.”

Douglas Porch


Public opinion, good press etc matters. Thank God N&N have advisors unlike adiga, things would go downhill quick.
No you are wrong, because you are confusing their field of profession first of all Haramacad are not politicians, they are not supposed to inspire anything but absolute fear and respect, that is their image goal, Farmaajo and Kheyre and politicians they need to inspire love from the populace.
Seriously are you a reer baadiye? How does a young guy grow up in UK and think so backward, even regressively.

1. Haramcad being armed forces and not politicians means there should be GREATER confidence in them.

2. They are police and not army which means they should be motivated by DEESCALATION and not ESCALATION.

3. They are specialized for STABILIZATION meaning they should be VERY EMOTIONALLY INTELLIGENT.

5. They are literally and explicitly designed to be PROVIDERS of security but also case workers, medical technicians, sociologists, trust inspiring, etc.
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This is what Farmaajo is planning for Kismayo.
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He’s telling the truth. Dowlad iyo waxas waa waxad hawiye ku suuxisaan. Nin darood ah oo si nabad aah oo qori isku dib hawiye wax ku wereejin waa habeenka xalay oo tagtay. If hawiye were intelligent they could have been a good partner but they are a liability so somalia cannot stay as one country. Nin hawiye baa uu ololayn in darood dalka loo diibo.

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original dervish wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:20 pm This is what Farmaajo is planning for Kismayo.
you keep yapping about kismaayo, but not a word about tuturak? which is being shelled by somaliland and puntland, don't you claim to be dhulbahante?
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Re: HAG lost the battle

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Voltage wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:43 pm First of all Dalalos, if I was Farmaajo, I would be thinking with supporters like YOU who needs enemy.

Turb, as always true to form, is cool as a cucumber and never one to display emotion and Murax is literally the embodiment of noble, but both in their own way pretty much said what I am more than happy to make clear to you in my intemperate excitability...

...Go fock yourself

At the very least, stop speaking for Farmaajo because you literally are that person no one wants claiming them because of the destruction you bring to their name and reputation.

Like how emotionally underdeveloped are you to not understand;

1. Somalia is coming out of civil war
2. There was 30 years of outright clan battles
3. Reconciliation is the only thing helping us climb back
4. The Dusamareb debacle was already sensitive enough due to clan/sectarian/etc differences
5. In particular the clash was SITUATIONAL; Ahlu Sunnah and the Gov are not "enemies"
6. Shakir, Macalin Maxamuud and other elders/leaders must be especially treated with respect...they didn't fall into ENEMY hands, it's their own gov that now takes responsibility
7. The SNA should be Somalia's "sons"; not Somalia's "nightmare"
8. In particular these boys are under a microscope and represent much more than their individual persons
9. That they are specialized units is even more of a threat to everything Nabad iyo Nolol is trying to advance


Etc etc etc

In my opinion, they should;

1. Quicky ascertain legitimacy if they haven't already
2. If the video's info is legitimate l, they SHOULD IMMEDIATELY be under court martial
3. Under handcuffs, they should be brought before Sheikh Sharif while he is eating and relaxing
4. They should immediately be told to apologize in front of cameras and kiss his hand
5. Finally they should immediately face the camera and apologize to SOMALIA for the shame and dishonor they brought to the nation

"Behavioral issues" are the single biggest common denominator failed and under developed nations manifest.

You don't put a stop to it, you can kiss State Formation goodbye. It will all be for nothing if decency, decorum, and honor are not ADOPTED AS COMMON UTILITY in Somalia.
The GM state spoilers are all dealt with, we emerge victorious Guul !

Shaakir will be sent to Mogadishu to face justice, trial and swift judgement according to the judicial system, he may even be executed, Galmudug and the people of the capital Dhusamareb will no longer be held hostage by the unhinged sufi despot who took up arms against the SFG.

Your proposals are all weak and pathetic, The audacity of this fulay, who would ask the brave soldiers that defeated shaakir and lost their comrades in battle to turn around and apologies ? it will never happen but the mere fact that you hold this sentiment tells me you wish to make living martyrs out of our enemies and enemies out of our armed forces, I would say this is an error but it isn't because there is a pattern with you Voltage.
Your sentiment is identical to that which you held during the Qalbiqurun Saga, I have concluded you are a fulay ba'ayeeste, what makes this entire thing worse is the fact you are Rer Siyaad and your deegaan in Balanbale and even across the border in Qoraxeey is being invaded by Cayr, they now have MPs in Balanbale and they are harassing you in Qoraxeey across the border and here you are crying about their defeat, if this isn't stockholm syndrome I don't know what is. :lol:
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Re: HAG lost the battle

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Turbulence wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:05 pm
Mustafee101 wrote: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:24 pm Laftagareen’s boys in Shaakir house. Most bahdil of the century
These guys are very unprofessional and a bad look for the SNA. They will be tolerated for now but eventually individuals like these have to be removed from the forces because you know they will create problems for the locals.
Very unprofessional, but that was low key hilarious
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Re: HAG lost the battle

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dalalos101 wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:11 am Hi I am Adali and my views in this topic exposed just how underdeveloped my emotional intelligence is.

I literally sound like a myopic 11 year old preteen with a Napolean Complex.

Fire and Blood Fvk yeah!!!

Oh and my brain is this size;

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Fixed. :up:
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