decoding of qoorqoor message, Kheyre many captains r leading Galmudug ship

[sahal80]

qoorqoor markaan sifiican u dhagaystey waa nin dagaal iyo nabad oo soo qaamuray very decisive, very dhexdhexaad wuxuu yiri inuu ka duwanyahay dhinacyada isheesta ee dawlada federalka iyo dowlad goboleedyada saa darteed uu gogosha asagu dhigayo artintaan oo ku tisanaya inuu la tartamayo deni

dhanka kale wuxuu hoos ka duray pl arinta dagaalka furintafoore markuu lee yahay "kuwo(PL) meelo kale(N&N) u socdey ayaa na soo tuuryeeyern umana jawaabin!
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Kheyre oo qiray in Galmudug la wada leeyahay bilaabatey wuxuu yiri naaquudayaal badan ayaa safka hore la saaran qoorqoor laakin waxaan rajaynaynaa ineey gadaal u noqon oo loo socdo dhanka horumarka iyo dib u heshiisiinta iyo dib u dhiska.



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Qoorqqor is hinting at the false flag attack staged by Puntland on one of the clans inhabiting Galmudug namely Wagardhac, UAE funds given to Deni/CCS were used to pay HG mostly Saleebaan clan militia to attack Furinti-foore in hopes that it would lead to a larger clan conflict between Marehan and Habar Gidir that would undoubtedly destabilize the Galmudug state and the region at large.
How will Ethiopia react to Galaadi administration's involvement in Puntland's proxy war against Galmudug ? I think that is a far more interesting question, we know already one Liyuu Police officer has been arrested by the Ethiopian federal authority.


Furunti-foore is not in Somalia but in Ethiopia, so this implicates Ethiopia, and we know SFG has very strong ties with Ethiopian government, what were Puntland strategist thinking ? also the clans involved in this conflict were both pro-puntland, I think it is safe to say they aren't anymore as details of those involved in the conflict are starting to come out.

Sahal the key word here is proxy war !

A proxy war is an armed conflict between two states or non-state actors which act on the instigation or on behalf of other parties that are not directly involved in the hostilities

yeah i revealed qoorqoor position in my halyeey thread i also used the "proxy militia"phrase. 9:50 he talks about it in a coded language.

[Nomand]

as for qoor qoor,

there are forces out there that don't want to see a stable galmudug, no one in somalia can win a qabil war in someone elses degaan, the moment USC stepped outside of hawiye lands they were defeated and darod was defeated in mogadishu also.

so qoor qoor to me seems like a reasonable man and his second in command ciid is from birmingham UK, very respectful guy and very intelligent i have met him before.

[sahal80]

its funny how a guy from hiiraan is telling someone who is the VP of galmudug and has 20 percent share of galmudug to not talk about galmudug and that this thread does not concern him.

when the whole thread was opened up as a provocation. Since you are basing the participation of discussing galmudug on "those who are concerned" . well answer this question whats your role in galmudug? Who are you ? are you among those who are "concerned" ?

and if you are kindly tell us how you are any part of galmudug.

Yassalam! every thing is 'provocation' if i talk about HG reconciliation or OG reconciliation like you own other people and this very analysis on Qoorqoor who happens to be HG in my own f-king thread!

No one told this close-minded reer baadiye that Galmudug is not his business if he wants talk about it i was just schooling him its not his business me talking about it. salfudeedka iska dhaaf aqr8 wuxuu soo qoray. aniga marabo clan-centered topic i discuss it in its political context that why i was bleeding him to stop changing it into clan vs clan shit like he did in my halyeey topic. i could have posted this in that topic had he not change it into multi-clan bashing. his reer baadiyo level doesnt suit my threads so i advise him to post his own shit in his own threads he is mad if he thinks he can gag me from talking politics.

[Nomand]

its funny how a guy from hiiraan is telling someone who is the VP of galmudug and has 20 percent share of galmudug to not talk about galmudug and that this thread does not concern him.

when the whole thread was opened up as a provocation. Since you are basing the participation of discussing galmudug on "those who are concerned" . well answer this question whats your role in galmudug? Who are you ? are you among those who are "concerned" ?

and if you are kindly tell us how you are any part of galmudug.

Yassalam! every thing is 'provocation' if i talk about HG reconciliation or OG reconciliation like you own other people and this very analysis on Qoorqoor who happens to be HG in my own f-king thread!

No one told this close-minded reer baadiye that Galmudug is not his business if he wants talk about it i was just schooling him its not his business me talking about it. salfudeedka iska dhaaf aqr8 wuxuu soo qoray. aniga marabo clan-centered topic i discuss it in its political context that why i was bleeding him to stop changing it into clan vs clan shit like he did in my halyeey topic. i could have posted this in that topic had he not change it into multi-clan bashing. his reer baadiyo level doesnt suit my threads so i advise him to post his own shit in his own threads he is mad if he thinks he can gag me from talking politics.

sxb this is a free country anyone can discuss whatever they want. but lets call a spade a spade. we all know why you opened this thread but i don't even mind it its your prerogative, what i was pointing out is you telling someone that discussion about qoor qoor does not concern him when qoor qoor is his federal president while yours is waare.


same way you have a right to discuss whatever you want in this forum, ugaas has the same right to participate in this discussion.

[Nomand]

back to the topic, the war in furinta foore has everything to do with this, it was to paint the SNA as a qabil militia, some HG where paid and used to attack nomads to cause a war between HG and MX.

[sahal80]

war niyahow caadifad maa ku indho tirtay? read his first post and my replies to him. HE IS FREE talk about Galmudug in this thread or in his own i was just telling him its not his businness to tell not to talk about galmudug and saying stick to Hirshabelle. Galmudug is a HAG affairs to begin with even qabiil ahaan it concerns me but i care it about politically anaana la wadaaga xad kaaga ka dheer ha adaga ha isa siinin bas. HG xad kaa dheer baan la leeyahay iska daa Galmudug oo degmada buuloburde xad laleh!

tan labaad, you open this topic for provocationkiina shows how closeminded you are. your pro N&N and im pro opposition what do you expact from me? aniga mx kama fikiro waxaan ka fikiraa govt vs opposition or FMs laakin qofkii madaxa marey wuxuu isku arkaa in asaga target ka yahay.


look how i believe freedom. he quoted from a post i deleted i told him to delete just my part and he did. if i was close minded like him i would have asked to delete his post too!

"delete the post you quoted me and post only yours f-king geeljire badaw ah. "


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[UgaaskaBarakaysan]

Niic niic badan malo bahno. We will see how galmudug is going forward we know who bankrolled the current maamul and that's who is going to be steering the overall direction of it.
Furthermore when xawadle gets one mp and I have zero you can say its none of my business, until that day comes cagaha dulka dig.

[dalalos101]

back to the topic, the war in furinta foore has everything to do with this, it was to paint the SNA as a qabil militia, some HG where paid and used to attack nomads to cause a war between HG and MX.

I have to agree with Daniel on this one, Somali security forces are corrupt and clannish, that is why it was easy for him to bribe the HG SNA to attack Wagardhac.

[Nomand]

back to the topic, the war in furinta foore has everything to do with this, it was to paint the SNA as a qabil militia, some HG where paid and used to attack nomads to cause a war between HG and MX.

I have to agree with Daniel on this one, Somali security forces are corrupt and clannish, that is why it was easy for him to bribe the HG SNA to attack Wagardhac.

The SNA still has some of the moriyaans of yesteryear, but they are being replaced by well trained new recruits. these guys have been training in a camp for over 1 year, everything about them is being changed from qabil thinking to nationalist thinking.

for example 1000 of janaans men joined the SNA, they are still the same guys who where doing janaans dirty work just 6 months ago. until either they are re-educated or replaced you will still find them being prone to moriyaanimo or even bribery.

so its not as easy to say the SNA is a qabil militia when the SNA is changing from a qabil militia to an actual national army, the last bits moriyaans are being cleansed as we speak.

[dalalos101]

back to the topic, the war in furinta foore has everything to do with this, it was to paint the SNA as a qabil militia, some HG where paid and used to attack nomads to cause a war between HG and MX.

I have to agree with Daniel on this one, Somali security forces are corrupt and clannish, that is why it was easy for him to bribe the HG SNA to attack Wagardhac.

The SNA still has some of the moriyaans of yesteryear, but they are being replaced by well trained new recruits. these guys have been training in a camp for over 1 year, everything about them is being changed from qabil thinking to nationalist thinking.

for example 1000 of janaans men joined the SNA, they are still the same guys who where doing janaans dirty work just 6 months ago. until either they are re-educated or replaced you will still find them being prone to moriyaanimo or even bribery.

so its not as easy to say the SNA is a qabil militia when the SNA is changing from a qabil militia to an actual national army, the last bits moriyaans are being cleansed as we speak.

I agree and that is the sort of tone you should be dealing with criticism.
If you just blindly defend the SNA just because Dowlad diid Aaranjan attacks it, you stand in the way of open dialogue with people who actually have real grievances, not Aaranjan ! hell I have real grievances with the SNA and chimpanzee looking daniel does not represent me in any capacity, we need more transparency and SFG supporters need to learn how to deal with taking constructive criticism from people with legitimate issues with the SNA, if the SFG listened to the people there would not even be a position for Daniel to spread his deceit and build a defeatist narrative, no one would listen to that shit.

[AbdiWahab252]

Only a hard man like Qoorqoor can lead Galmudug. Softies like Xaaf can not. The locals just want stability and development and don’t care who the President is as long as he brings development.

[dalalos101]

Only a hard man like Qoorqoor can lead Galmudug. Softies like Xaaf can not. The locals just want stability and development and don’t care who the President is as long as he brings development.

Ugaaski beesha HG, afkaa caano damereed lagu qabay

When will Rer Jalaf secure Gaalkacyo