GuleedWarsame wrote: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:15 am
Hirshabelle is probably the most dysfunctional state in the federal setup, its literal extension of xamar. I don't count JL as state since its confined to Kismayo.
1. Somaliland
2. Puntland
3.Konfurgalbeed
4. Galmudug
5. Hirshabelle
In fairness, unless Somaliland has a change of status I would not include them in the line up.
Somaliland already functions like post-colonial African dysfunctional state which is STILL considerably ahead of Somalia.
For example, these guys are not at the level where institutions and concept of citizenship have matured beyond physical manifestation (tribe, clan, color, faction, etc); but they have had serious moments of turbulence including Tuur and internal clashes and they didn't break. That means they have developed some organic conflict diffusion and state internal recognition beyond anywhere else in Somalia.
Puntland has overcome some.difficulties but it wasn't the same test. It wasn't about a collective project but Abdulanhi Yusuf a warlord on personality power just seizing equity like the rest of Somalia.
I think EVEN RIGHT now and ultimately I think Southwest is then ONLY TRULY ORGANIC federal state and cohesive identity after Somaliland.
It is called BLOCK MENTALITY.
It is why 96% of African Americans consistently vote for Democrats in US.
Isaaq have British S vs. Italian S and it's long manifestation in us vs the mentality
Digil and Mirifle have the Reewin (Farmer/Maay) vs. Samaale (Nomad/Maxaa) and it's even LONGER manifestation in us vs them.
That's why Reewin like everyone else may disagree about PROCESS but every single Reewin from Siyeed to Sagaal in Mirifle whether in Tiyeeglow or Buurhakaba to Chimwini speaking Barawe and Garre agro-pastoralist in Digil SEES THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL SELF when they see the Southwest Flag.
Compare that to people in this topic who NOT EVEN BEING A NUMERICAL MAJORITY of ONE region or even ONE CITY (plurality =/= majority) are already thinking about how to CO-OPT the Federal State concept LITERALLY sitting there without any self-awareness perfectly fine and rational with EVEN THE IDEA of denying participation and ownership to people just as deserving as he is.
I mean THINK
1. We are in CIVIL WAR. Civil. War.
2. AS A PEOPLE, we are highly decentralized. NO MAN IS MY KING.
3. For 25 years, in free for all, his community could not unilaterally take the main town. Just the main town. Forget the Region.Just the main town.
4. In the 2000's when this project that resulted in permenant government was starting, his clan and the clan he wants to deny participation LITERALLY DESTROYED EACH OTHERA TO A STALEMATE. I went and quickly looked at old news reports. To a stalemate.
5. RIGHT THIS SECOND, 65-80% of that one region in that State he lives in is under the control of Shabaab.
6. That's primarily because of the lack of ownership and inclusivity some communities feel.
7. EVEN IF, Shabaab is destroyed today. The clans feeling disenfranchised will each go to the bush and start a clan i surgency.
Now ISN'T THAT WHAT HE CELEBRATES as having happened in 91?
Buloburte started USC....yippie yeey!
Well apparently Buloburte knows all about clan rebellion so why don't we just see if history does know how to repeat since some are keen on repeating what they say started earlier rebellions
