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gegiroor wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:58 pm There shouldn't be mediation when the #ICJ is starting to deliberate the case and eventually release a verdict. It would be a dumb decision and actually a dangerous one for the Somali government to accept any mediation when Kenyans have exhausted all options in order to delay the court date or coerce the FGS to accept mediation.

100%. There is no room for mediation on this. Kenya can restore relations with Somalia after the court decision.
Somalias claim will be backed by a court decision by then but if Farmaajo delays the court and enter mediation with Kenya he will be dragged out from Villa Somalia and ruin his political career and legacy. Its betrayal of future Somali generations.

As for Jubbaland and Madoobe it's really a non issue at this point. He is limited to Kismayo while middle juba is not part of his admin and Gedo don't recognize his admin it's a slow death for now but can be accelerated on our terms.

Why on earth would Turkey do this, especially when they have a history of disputes with the Greek regarding maritime resources/territory? I hope Farmaajo remains firm and quietly declines talks of mediation.

Phinks wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:37 am Why on earth would Turkey do this, especially when they have a history of disputes with the Greek regarding maritime resources/territory? I hope Farmaajo remains firm and quietly declines talks of mediation.

I have faith he will reject this poorly timed hail mary offer

grandpakhalif wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:33 am

Phinks wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:37 am Why on earth would Turkey do this, especially when they have a history of disputes with the Greek regarding maritime resources/territory? I hope Farmaajo remains firm and quietly declines talks of mediation.

I have faith he will reject this poorly timed hail mary offer

Grandpakhalif,


Off the subject by why were you until very recently, supporting Deni, all these mucaarad while trashing N&N to the point of even attacking me?

gegiroor wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:58 pm There shouldn't be mediation when the #ICJ is starting to deliberate the case and eventually release a verdict. It would be a dumb decision and actually a dangerous one for the Somali government to accept any mediation when Kenyans have exhausted all options in order to delay the court date or coerce the FGS to accept mediation.

What Voltage is saying is that getting rid of Madoobe is more important than the Somali territorial integrity. Think about that. Good thing is that Moooge's time is up, and as for the Kenyan AMISOM forces, they would leave when the Ethiopians leave. And even if the Kenyans leave, you are a minority in Jubaland and things will remain the same; you would just report to another OG.

guhad122 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:11 pm

gegiroor wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:58 pm There shouldn't be mediation when the #ICJ is starting to deliberate the case and eventually release a verdict. It would be a dumb decision and actually a dangerous one for the Somali government to accept any mediation when Kenyans have exhausted all options in order to delay the court date or coerce the FGS to accept mediation.

What Voltage is saying is that getting rid of Madoobe is more important than the Somali territorial integrity. Think about that. Good thing is that Moooge's time is up, and as for the Kenyan AMISOM forces, they would leave when the Ethiopians leave. And even if the Kenyans leave, you are a minority in Jubaland and things will remain the same; you would just report to another OG.

If Marehan are a minority. Why is your land under Eelay Al Shabaab in Middle Juba and you don’t control the majority of Lower Juba besides Afmadow and Kismaayo? Why are all the roads closed by AS? And well Gedo is obviously in our hands. You’re the minority my friend. Who needs Kenyans to take over Gedo. But don’t worry. ICJ or not. We’re gonna kill Madobe. Taas waa ino balan. Ina gumeed ba tahay. All of you are slaves tbh. To Kenya and Ethiopia. Here is Cagjar telling Somalis to cry for Menelik. You have no right to tell us shit. You’re in the Darood yaryar category. You tick all the boxes. A slave shouldn’t talk back to his superiors

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:16 pm

guhad122 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:11 pm

gegiroor wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:58 pm There shouldn't be mediation when the #ICJ is starting to deliberate the case and eventually release a verdict. It would be a dumb decision and actually a dangerous one for the Somali government to accept any mediation when Kenyans have exhausted all options in order to delay the court date or coerce the FGS to accept mediation.

What Voltage is saying is that getting rid of Madoobe is more important than the Somali territorial integrity. Think about that. Good thing is that Moooge's time is up, and as for the Kenyan AMISOM forces, they would leave when the Ethiopians leave. And even if the Kenyans leave, you are a minority in Jubaland and things will remain the same; you would just report to another OG.

If Marehan are a minority. Why is your land under Eelay Al Shabaab in Middle Juba and you don’t control the majority of Lower Juba besides Afmadow and Kismaayo? Why are all the roads closed by AS? And well Gedo is obviously in our hands. You’re the minority my friend. Who needs Kenyans to take over Gedo. But don’t worry. ICJ or not. We’re gonna kill Madobe. Taas waa ino balan

So, are the Ethiopians now Mareexaan? Other than the Ugandans, the Ethiopians make up the majority of AMISOM forces in Somalia. Ethiopians are in Baardheere, Beledxaawo, Doollow, Garbahareey, and various other villages. There are more Ethiopian forces in Gedo than Kenyans in the entire Jubaland. As for killing Madoobe, that is your prerogative.

Thank you for saying as it is.
For ilkayars, it was always about getting rid of madoobe. Damn, it must suck being an ilkayar that you're willing to walk back the "kenya is an enemy" narrative and ready to suck off Kenya if it means Madoobe goes. Why? is it too exhausting to keep playing the concerned "wadani" anymore? lmao!

Madoobe will not go anywhere, he'll likely return in 2025 if he's alive. That's more likely than seeing midgaan quulle connoisseur become president.

But don't let that stop from making your millionth thread predicting another doom for Madoobe.

guhad122 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:38 pm

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:16 pm

guhad122 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:11 pm

What Voltage is saying is that getting rid of Madoobe is more important than the Somali territorial integrity. Think about that. Good thing is that Moooge's time is up, and as for the Kenyan AMISOM forces, they would leave when the Ethiopians leave. And even if the Kenyans leave, you are a minority in Jubaland and things will remain the same; you would just report to another OG.

If Marehan are a minority. Why is your land under Eelay Al Shabaab in Middle Juba and you don’t control the majority of Lower Juba besides Afmadow and Kismaayo? Why are all the roads closed by AS? And well Gedo is obviously in our hands. You’re the minority my friend. Who needs Kenyans to take over Gedo. But don’t worry. ICJ or not. We’re gonna kill Madobe. Taas waa ino balan

So, are the Ethiopians now Mareexaan? Other than the Ugandans, the Ethiopians make up the majority of AMISOM forces in Somalia. Ethiopians are in Baardheere, Beledxaawo, Doollow, Garbahareey, and various other villages. There are more Ethiopian forces in Gedo than Kenyans in the entire Jubaland. As for killing Madoobe, that is your prerogative.

Ethiopians under AMSOM. Don’t matter. Let’s see if you laangaabs post by the end of the year. Reer Gedo never needed shisheeye to kill you. It’s nothing but xabad between us

Caytame wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:50 pm
Thank you for saying as it is.
For ilkayars, it was always about getting rid of madoobe. Damn, it must suck being an ilkayar that you're willing to walk back the "kenya is an enemy" narrative and ready to suck off Kenya if it means Madoobe goes. Why? is it too exhausting to keep playing the concerned "wadani" anymore? lmao!

Madoobe will not go anywhere, he'll likely return in 2025 if he's alive. That's more likely than seeing midgaan quulle connoisseur become president.

But don't let that stop from making your millionth thread predicting another doom for Madoobe.

Every month, they hold banaanbax begging to have a district in the vast areas they live between Doollo and Caabud Waaq, but no one pays attention to them as they are not thrusted and considered normal people. The Ethiopian border is right on edges of Caabudwaaq, and they have so many qabale that could qualify for a district; Yamaarugreely, Burgeesoole , and so on. No luck On the other hand, Dhabayaco has three districts in Doollo, and Dhulbahante is about to get one via Marqaan or Cagaarweyne. Abayoonis might get one too. I am sorry Bessha Farmaajo.

Guhad,

You forget stuff on purpose to serve your argument, but the first Al Shaydaan front that started was in frigging 2009 in Gedo, and B Xaawo, Luuq, Garbaharey, Ceelwaaq were all liberated. The only district that remained Al Shaydaan for a couple years was Baardheere. This was all MX TFG/MX Ahlu Sunnah.

Lakin your hero Madoobe has what, Kismaayo under guard by KDF, along with barely holding on to two OG villages Dhoobley, Afmadhow? I mean he does not control 1 region, how was he delusional enough to think he can come to the table as a regional state as a regional president? The truth is he has no troops that can stake a step without KDF holding their hands. This is why on a regional state level he's not respected because tabar ma haysto.You claim to know history, gabay, etc. but if you truly knew Somali history you would know that you have a 5th column history.


As for the Maritime case, it will go to the courts. Kenya can continue enslaving your Adeer for leverage, but it won't work

guhad122 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:28 pm

Caytame wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:50 pm
Thank you for saying as it is.
For ilkayars, it was always about getting rid of madoobe. Damn, it must suck being an ilkayar that you're willing to walk back the "kenya is an enemy" narrative and ready to suck off Kenya if it means Madoobe goes. Why? is it too exhausting to keep playing the concerned "wadani" anymore? lmao!

Madoobe will not go anywhere, he'll likely return in 2025 if he's alive. That's more likely than seeing midgaan quulle connoisseur become president.

But don't let that stop from making your millionth thread predicting another doom for Madoobe.

Every month, they hold banaanbax begging to have a district in the vast areas they live between Doollo and Caabud Waaq, but no one pays attention to them as they are not thrusted and considered normal people. The Ethiopian border is right on edges of Caabudwaaq, and they have so many qabale that could qualify for a district; Yamaarugreely, Burgeesoole , and so on. No luck On the other hand, Dhabayaco has three districts in Doollo, and Dhulbahante is about to get one via Marqaan or Cagaarweyne. Abayoonis might get one too. I am sorry Bessha Farmaajo.

You’re a ina gumeed dee. Aabo Ethiopia gave you everything while MXs fought Ethiopia for 70yrs. Ofc you benefited. It pays to be a slave.

guhad122 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:11 pm

gegiroor wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:58 pm There shouldn't be mediation when the #ICJ is starting to deliberate the case and eventually release a verdict. It would be a dumb decision and actually a dangerous one for the Somali government to accept any mediation when Kenyans have exhausted all options in order to delay the court date or coerce the FGS to accept mediation.

What Voltage is saying is that getting rid of Madoobe is more important than the Somali territorial integrity. Think about that. Good thing is that Moooge's time is up, and as for the Kenyan AMISOM forces, they would leave when the Ethiopians leave. And even if the Kenyans leave, you are a minority in Jubaland and things will remain the same; you would just report to another OG.

Ironically, this is the reason why I disavowed "5 Star Somaliweyn" concept about 9 years ago and have not looked back for a second. Probably my single most passionate disagreement with Marehan, if we ever argue, is retrograde concepts of Somali irredentism or "nationality"--although I find disagreeing less and less these days. A lot of Marehan have come full circle and understand how bankrupt that ideology is when the reer Garissa they were fighting for heave lead Kenhan helicopter gunships INSIDE SOMALIA AGAINST GEDO REGION.

And today, the same one I left the bankrupt and superficial "5 Star" regression tries to manipulate me on my 1 Star position.

This you?

I honestly don't give a shiiit if Kenya wins the court battle on that maritime issue. All I care about this is that that piece of maritime is Makaahiil, OG land. To me, Garissa and Kismaayo are the same and as long as they are in OG hands, fook what the fake name of the country says. Both of them are my cities.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 8#p4956516

My friend Kismaayo is most definitely not Garissa and I would entertain even mediation----something still substantially minuscule compared to your subversion----to close the chapter on the [already failed] 10 year betrayal.

Also, it is still tacsi so I have not remarked on this, but in 2010, Cabdi Iley was in Addis and Yusuf Haji was in Kenya---without going into the odds of those circumstances at that time finding the luck it did, the intervention that prevailed, the mbiotic positioning vis-a-vis domestic influencing that occurred and what it sustained in the face of a very vulnerable Somalia---I will just say that historically rare decade has had the last light in the Castle turned off recently.

Jubbaland is already crossing back to equilibrium.