President Farmaajo business as usual in Villa Somalia

[SultanOrder]

Sahal I asked you to produce one ambassador that refused to present credentials. Still waiting.

[gobdoon]

What would these guys be doing when the president is out of the job, is there any chance they would put their misspent energy towards the Gedo drought

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

What would these guys be doing when the president is out of the job, is there any chance they would put their misspent energy towards the Gedo drought

We’re taking care of our region don’t worry. This attitude is why I’ll never support a MJ president or PM. It’s automatic mucaradnimo for
me any time I see a Zanzibari candidate.

[barbarossa]

like i said she did this to meet All the Somali Leaders and steer the election ship into post Mooge

why Now? al baraka bil al Sayid wa Dani! laakin naflacaaris like you waa ku dhagaayaan wax walbe. i gave you the proof the uk link says in Feb why after atleast 10 days? its' bc of shirka Xalane.
whay i said about some diplomats refusing ...was after they got advice like this. still they never mentioned Mooge in twitter and facebook like they used to do before. stop stealing the spotlight from Madoobe and Dani. Madoobe met so far with the UNSOM and EU ambassadors and you will see tomorrow meeting with this lady. im out naflacaaris stop mentioning me you Gaadmo shit has backfired you!


Before




After. no one even reweeted his shit

Ustaad Sahal, is what you saying , in the eyes of IC, Madoobe and Deni command more power than taliyaha teliska ulaha booca ku tukubaya ee 'Mooge'?

[sahal80]

Sahal I asked you to produce one ambassador that refused to present credentials. Still waiting.

This lady was refusing for a whole month until this shir because of his disputed Status and that is speaks volumes

i referred to them anonymously to avoid the possibility of this happening under different circumstances so im not owned.

lastly i told you before in your Sahal come in thread that Xalane sees him some kind of xilgaarsiiye but since he is not recognized by most important states and the opposition they had to fill the vacuum that why shirka takes place in Xalane. This lady was waiting for a month to take over from her predicessor so let me ask you two quesions; 1-why she hasnt met FARMAAJO in february as scheduled? 2- why the she and the UK in Somalia never mentioned him like they did with the last two ambassadors ? if your a man answer this if you cannot answer or trying to twist and spin then let me say it again louder fo you its bc of his disputed Status. to meet with all leaders they r using him as some kind of necessary kusime without power. i will give you another example. madoobe and deni refused him arranging shirka and making invitations but so Xalane accepted tgeir conditions but said ok we will manage shirka but in your meeting let him first talk(ha furo shirka) wax macno ah may leedahay? hada safiirkaan waa saas camal si ay ula kulanto madaxda joogta Moogey ka bilaawdey it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that

anyways i date you to answer these two questions her feb appointment and him not being mentioned by them i know your not politically sophisticated to understand that bc its the neflacaarinimo why you think its about mooge who has gone

"Ms Kate Foster OBE has been appointed Her Majesty’s Ambassador to the Federal Republic of Somalia in succession to Mr Ben Fender OBE who will be transferring to another Diplomatic Service appointment. Ms Foster will take up her appointment during February"

[SultanOrder]

Kate Foster arrived to Somalia in March. She hasn’t been waiting since she was appointed to give credentials. Also again there are 0 ambassadors that have refused to give credentials and you can’t prove it. This is why you are all talk and can’t back it up.

[sahal80]

Kate Foster arrived to Somalia in March. She hasn’t been waiting since she was appointed to give credentials. Also again there are 0 ambassadors that have refused to give credentials and you can’t prove it. This is why you are all talk and can’t back it up.

lol with a superficial person! she could have come before if the conditions were ready she started her job in February. she made a big fuss since the last week. taas waa ka jawaabi weysay.
"Arrintaan ayaa waxaa dhowaanahan ka taagneyd dood adag, waxayna muran ka dhex dhalisay safaaradda UK ee Soomaaliya, ayada oo mas’uuliyiinta safaarada ay iskaga horyimaadeen cidda warqadaha aqoonsiga ka guddoomeysa safiirka cusub, maadama uu Farmaajo ka dhamaaday muddo xileedkiisu."


"Safiirka Cusub ee Ingiriiska ayaa lasoo magacaabay Bishii Janaayo, waxayna Xafiiska la wareegtay BiShii Feberaayo"

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/theworld ... e-farmaajo


why she did not mention him or the Uk acc did not mention him?

[SultanOrder]

That’s beside the point, she presented her credentials to President Farmaajo, not madoobe, not Hsm, not hebel hebel. If the UK were unsure before they have made up their minds and recognize Farmaajo.

You made a claim that more ambassadors have still not submitted their papers. I’m asking you to name just 1 and I’ll say you were right. Just one ambassador that is in Somalia and didn’t submit papers. Just one.

[barbarossa]

The ambassador for the Free Republic of Liberland has been waiting for weeks to submit his credentials.

[sahal80]

That’s beside the point, she presented her credentials to President Farmaajo, not madoobe, not Hsm, not hebel hebel. If the UK were unsure before they have made up their minds and recognize Farmaajo.

You made a claim that more ambassadors have still not submitted their papers. I’m asking you to name just 1 and I’ll say you were right. Just one ambassador that is in Somalia and didn’t submit papers. Just one.

cant answer! still twisting and spinning? i answer yours but you cant answer mine darbi baan la hadlaa marka? when i said some diplomats it could be her. whe have some m who called mooge kusime like the UAE. the point is not the ambassadors but how they see Mooge and the proof is my before and after comparison

as this link shows she was supposed to take over after Feb 8 but bc of Farmaajo still there she postponed? clear? now bc of her role in shirka she came to see all the leaders wuthout mentioning her meeting with Mooge wich you cant explain why? barbarossa i have no time now for your trolling sxb you see im dealing with the naflacaari gang of Mooges

https://garoweonline.com/en/news/somali ... 7Zylax5W20

[Gubbet]

Murax,

I can tell you as a personal matter; making a decision to cancel out forum clout chasing from being a factor in discussing Somali current events has completely reoriented my interaction in this forum to what it used to be about!; Information sharing.

While scrolling through the topic, I caught sight of Barbarasso's quote and briefly stopped to look at the big tweet from Matt Bryden.

Matt Bryden essentially accuses the United Kingdom of signalling personal support of President Farmaajo through extraordinary recognition of his authority as head of State to confer diplomatic appointment.

That's from the guy who strategized the now completely failed February 8th deadline.

The entire premise after that, then, is much ado about small transition period between change of appointment and taking up post. It is quite literally the difference between "hired" and "start date." It just gives time for the ambassador to get prepared to move in and the former ambassador to close out and move out. It is worked out interagency between the two.

You don't realize how toxic bringing everything down to a reductionist, personal grievance based forum clout chasing can be until you cancel it out.

[SultanOrder]

Sahal I don’t think you quite understand my position. I agree with you that we are in a political turmoil situation that is causing a lot of foreign actors to tread carefully. I’m not delusional to think the country is in the same position it was in feb of 2020 or 19 or 18.

The point we keep making is Farmaajo is president despite the political turmoil. He is still recognized, and there is no caretaker, rooble are not in charge, mucaarad are not in charge.

[sahal80]

Sahal I don’t think you quite understand my position. I agree with you that we are in a political turmoil situation that is causing a lot of foreign actors to tread carefully. I’m not delusional to think the country is in the same position it was in feb of 2020 or 19 or 18.

The point we keep making is Farmaajo is president despite the political turmoil. He is still recognized, and there is no caretaker, rooble are not in charge, mucaarad are not in charge.

ok you have progressed abit but the difference between you and me is that Farmaajo is your president not mine or PL or the opposition that is my whole point all the time. and here is the UNSOM position status his status are argued over.
"Tensions over electoral implementation have now been compounded by questions raised by some political figures over the legitimacy of the president’s mandate following the expiry of his constitutional term on 8 February. The Government cites an October parliamentary resolution permitting the President to remain, but this is contested by others.
https://unsom.unmissions.org/statement- ... -somalia-0


Having said that, he is legally seen by them(beesha caalamka) that until someone replaces him he is kusime but with no powers like Jawaari said that why this lady was staying away all the time and now is not mentioning their meeting like they used to do. that speaks volumes. "The Government cites an October parliamentary resolution permitting the President to remain, but this is contested by others" this means labada dhinacba sidoodey kula dhaqmayaan.

mida kale waxaa jira jawi all stakeholderska soo galaayaan. maadama kurti Madaxda Xalane la isugu imaanayo ooy rabaan inay safaaradaha la kulmaan waxaa Mooge u furmaya irido badan ee wax kaligiis ku xiran maaha. khamiista olaa jimcaha ayaan soo galin islaantaan oo la kulmaysa madoobe iyo Deni. one thing lead to another.


waxaa kuu soo harey caretaker this role will be given to Rooble and the cabinet after the shir waa inoo bacda shir!


hada waxaa laga saxiixooyaa inusan awood laheen war cadeynaysa inuu xilkiisa ku ekaa feb 8 waxna magacaabi karin waxna ka tuuri karin


Dood ayaa dhowaanahan ka taagneyd in Safiirka cusub ee UK ay Waraaqaha u gudbiso Madaxweyne Farmaajo maadama uu muddo-xileedkiisu dhamaaday, balse Waaxda Arrimaha Dibedda UK ayaa sheegtay in lagalama maarmaan tahay in Waraaqaha Aqoonsiga laga gudddoomo Safiirka, si shaqada safaarada loo dardar-galiyo
https://www.idilnews.com/2021/03/10/far ... EGI56ZNdXk

[SultanOrder]

Sahal, you really are hard headed. James Swan is reporting what the situation on the ground not taking a position. It’s not a secret that Mucaaradka see that Farmaajo mandate expired.

Trump contests Joe Biden’s victory, if James Swan reported it doesn’t mean that Biden isn’t president, it’s a simple fact of the political situation.

Sahal all you rely on is reading between the lines. You don’t need to read between the lines, every government recognizes Farmaajo and his administration and parliament as the government of Somalia. Even UAE who is the only one recognizes Farmaajo as President even if it is “Interim”. Which the government is Interim until elections can be held.

Sahal there is no law that says Farmaajo is interim and his powers become limited. That is why Puntland is trying to precondition talks to force Farmaajo to limit his own powers. How can you ask Farmaajo to limit his own powers if you think he doesn’t have any power? Maska ma lihid?

I’m tired of you make allegations and the only proof you have is reading between the lines. “Oh the ambassador didn’t mention Farmaajo in her tweet” what does a tweet matter when she went to Farmaajo to ask him to accept her credentials??

We come with proof of a continuance of governance such as accepting ambassadors and you come with tweets. Ma ciyaal ba tahay niyo? Si qof macquul oo aduunka wax ka yaqaan iska dhig.

[SultanOrder]

The ambassador for the Free Republic of Liberland has been waiting for weeks to submit his credentials.

Thank you barbarosa, that’s all I ever asked for. I’m done with the topic.